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melody
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« on: August 14, 2007, 16:04:03 »

This film, which is almost 2 hours long, consists of 3 parts.

It deals with various myths in our life. Please do not get offended about a God cartoon at the beginning. Information that fallows is very interesting and shows similarities between some ancient and biblical texts.

The two parts that follow deal with our contemporary reality and makes one question what is real and what is not.

The ending passage - the epilogue - is inspiring.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 15:08:33 »

Sounds quite interesting, when I get time I'll have to check it out.

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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 17:52:01 »


Hello Werp,

I'd really like to hear from you what you think about this film once you have seen it.

I'd like to hear anybody else's opinions about it as well.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 22:19:13 »

I gave my thoughts on the video on the Astralpulse forums, so instead of rewriting it here I'll just post a link to my reply:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_world_religions/is_the_bible_to_be_taken_literally-t26491.0.html;msg220794#msg220794
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 23:36:24 »


Hello Kailaurius,

I was not aware that the link to this video was posted in the other forum. You made some very good points in your reply there. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 11:34:12 »

Well, I've watched the beginning segment, well most of it. And yes it all does seem to fit.  I'm going to do a little more research and I'll get back to everyone. Busy at the moment.  I really do feel that this could indeed be right.  I mean, why couldn't it?  What evidence says this is less likely then a man named Jesus actually living and doing what it says he does?


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So if that was now, and this is now, and the future is now....you're saying that the train leaving from Boston at 45 MPH is green, right?
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 12:03:52 »

Hi Melody,

That's ok.  I would have rewritten my comments on the video here, but I was getting ready to head off to bed while reading through the forums, so I figured it would just be easier to post a link to the comments I made there.  Besides, the thread in the other forum wasn't originally a discussion about the video.  Coincidentally someone had mentioned the video after I had just watched it the day before, so the video was still fresh in my mind, and I figured I would make a comment on it.

I still have plans to watch the video again whenever I have 2 hours to spare.  wink

I would like to make another comment.  Having been raised in christian churches during my childhood I had always believed that Jesus did exist.  Over the years I have heard many debates and theories about anything and everything pertaining to Jesus from whether or not he existed to whether he was supernatural with magical, mystical, spiritual, godlike powers or just a regular human being.  There's been discussions about there being certain texts written in the "Dead Sea Scrolls" about Jesus asking for the poison the Romans would offer to the ones being crucified on the cross to relieve their suffering.  There are beliefs that Jesus did not die on the cross, but rather moved to India where he died of old age.  Then there's this whole Davinci code thing.  A lot of the beliefs and theories about how Jesus lived his life sound quite interesting.  I personally believe that Jesus most likely did exist.  I'm probably a little indifferent at the moment as to whether or not Jesus, Budah, and other spiritual avatars ever existed and how they may or may not have lived their lives.  Even with my intuition at it's current level and all the testimonies given by other spiritualists and channelers I am not personally 100% positive.  The only thing that really interests me at this point is the information believed to have originated from these perceived great prophets as well as information from other spiritual avatars, prophets, metaphysicians, quantum physicists, my guides, inner/higher self, nature, etc. that can guide me in my spiritual development.  The video made some very interesting comparisons between all the great spiritual leaders and how they are astrologically related to each other.  I'm sure I'll watch it again with yet a still open mind while at the same time viewing it from different perspectives to solidify my perception a little more about what they're explaining.

It seems videos like this one as well as conspiracy websites about world governments, ufo's, religions, etc. are popping up all over the place.  To me it's another indication that the shift in consciousness is gaining speed.  It's really exciting to be aware of the world changing around us.  I agree with others who state this is the most exciting time to encarnate on this planet.

I would also like to note however that I hint a little bit of fear in a lot of the conspiracy videos and websites.  I'm sure their intention is mostly to inform and make aware of what is going on behind the scenes and not create fear and hostility towards our governments and organizations.  Like I mentioned in the post on the other forum it would appear these secret organizations control and manipulate society for their own benefit.  I strongly believe because of free will nothing can happen to you without your permission.  I would like to make a correction about a statement I made on the other post.  I mentioned that "we are and have always been in complete control of our own reality and not the government or any organization for that matter".  Let me refrase and say that "we are and have always created our own reality".  I changed from control to create because even though we continuously create our reality a lot of people are not in full control of their creations - living life on autopilot mode.  But from my perspective that also appears to be changing like a wave sweeping across the planet.  It appears that people are becoming more aware of not just themselves but of everything.  An awakening if you will.  smiley  One of the things I like to do when meditating is focusing on areas where there is poverty, homelessness, despair, war, famine, crisis, etc., and then visualize a large sphere of tremendously bright white light shining above that area - a light of change, hope, wisdom, love.  This does not infringe on their free will as the light is just there as an opportunity.  I also like to shine the light in areas of our governments and organizations to help give them the wisdom and insight they need to make changes and decisions that will benefit humanity.

Anyway, sorry for yet another long post.  I seem to be doing that a bit lately, hehe.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2007, 13:46:40 »

Hello Melody and Kailaurius,

I have now just finished watching the whole film and I agree with you Kailaurius that it is extremely exciting to watch people, "opening their eyes" to the truth.  To experience first hand the shifting of consciousness that is taking place. 

I find it hard to believe that Jesus was not a man having grew up in a strict Christian household.  However the astrological connections, and the dates that relate to Horus and other such Gods of earlier times do deserve some thought.  I personally have always thought Jesus to have been a great teacher who's works have been misunderstood (even from an early age, I would ask my pastor questions about why the "god" depicted by the bible never quite lined up with what Jesus was saying).  However, I am very open to the fact that I am wrong, or have been led to believe something that is not entirely truthful, and I cannot wait for the opportunity to realize the true nature of Jesus and many other "spiritual avatars" as Kailaurius put it.

In response to the governments, well, while I very readily agree to the fact that a few wealthy individuals and a select group of people are controlling mass amounts of our world.  I feel that if we can open the eyes of enough people, the shift in consciousness will attain a great enough power that the power of these small groups will disappear, if everyone would realize their true nature and the "god-like" creation powers that we all have to manifest anything we truly need, then even if these groups unite the world with their "chips" and their universal monetary systems, humanity will not be controlled.  I highly doubt that with the knowledge that is being readily passed on from person to person such a global take over would ever happen, becuase people everywhere are starting to realize that they are everything, and everything is them.  Everything is energy, and we are all evolving back towards the source of this magnificent universe. And we ALREADY HAVE everything and anything we need. 

We need not worry about this "global connection" or any other such event happening, whatever the group consciousness of the human mind puts the most thought into, will happen.  Therefore we should only concentrate on the positive outlook that everyone, everywhere, is realizing their true potential and creation abilities.  And that when the world comes to a point where there is only one universal monetary system and organization of leadership, it will be the true recognition that money is worthless, and that everyone is a leader of their own life.  Then and only then well the "kingdom of heaven on earth" be present.  And then peace will prevail.

(I tend to ramble on for long periods of time as well Kailaurius)

Werp

 
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What you do in life, echoes in eternity.

Before you point fingers, make sure your hands are clean- Bob Marley

So if that was now, and this is now, and the future is now....you're saying that the train leaving from Boston at 45 MPH is green, right?
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 08:36:40 »


One of the things I like to do when meditating is focusing on areas where there is poverty, homelessness, despair, war, famine, crisis, etc., and then visualize a large sphere of tremendously bright white light shining above that area - a light of change, hope, wisdom, love.  This does not infringe on their free will as the light is just there as an opportunity.  I also like to shine the light in areas of our governments and organizations to help give them the wisdom and insight they need to make changes and decisions that will benefit humanity.


Hello Kailaurius,

Thank you for performing such a great service to humanity. Any such beautiful effort changes the reality on this planet, although it might be only a small change, if more people did what you do, the change would be substantial.

Keep on with your great work!  smiley
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 00:09:21 »


On the website below you will find an interview with Aaron Russo who was mentioned in the Zeitgeist movie above. He repeats the same thing he says in Zeitgeist about his former friend Nick Rockefeller but gives a far detailed account.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2007/240807_b_aaron.htm

This is the same Aaron Russo interview with Alex Jones as mentioned above but in a larger format

Historic Interview with Aaron Russo, Fighting Cancer and the New World Order
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5420753830426590918

Below is Aaron Russo's film

America: Freedom to Fascism
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

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