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[Larry]

       Dear Laura, For someone so busy, you sure do post a lot on this forum. Let me thank you for stooping so low to my level. Interesting, you used the word patience in referring to me. ("please try to find patience.") I've seen you and Adrian both, show a lack of that word recently.    Maybe in about 10,000 more incarnations, I will achieve youres and his level of importance. Narrow is the gate leading to where you guys are. Your lowly groveling redheaded welfare child,  larry        PS  I support Darrell. Someone assuming a leadership role and preaching something that will cause bondage to people, needs a spanking.  But I regress, lets just love them into the light.

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Larry

       Dear Laura, For someone so busy, you sure do post a lot on this forum. Let me thank you for stooping so low to my level. Interesting, you used the word patience in referring to me. ("please try to find patience.") I've seen you and Adrian both, show a lack of that word recently.    Maybe in about 10,000 more incarnations, I will achieve youres and his level of importance. Narrow is the gate leading to where you guys are. Your lowly groveling redheaded welfare child,  larry        PS  I support Darrell. Someone assuming a leadership role and preaching something that will cause bondage to people, needs a spanking.  But I regress, lets just love them into the light.

I am sorry that you feel like that. It was never my intention but to help with what you have asked.

(I was at work at the time and taking a break - which others take it by having a smoke, or coffee, or gossip... and now I have to go prepare some supper for my children)



love - Laura

[DH]

Ego is the one and only one obstacle to enlightenment.

[juliainkc]

Ego is the one and only one obstacle to enlightenment.

You know DH, I have been openly going through the process of coming to an understanding of just what the 'obstacle' Ego was to enlightenment.

And today by having a wonderfully Equal Energied conversation, I changed my mind about this thought as in how I looked at this thought.

Ego is a very part of me. I have denied Ego it's rightful place. It does indeed have a place. Most ones who grew up in Darrell's and I generation, were a part of or aware of those who were party to an agressive generation of parents and parenting  styles.

It was my ego that allowed me to get beyond what I was as Darrell was experiencing as a child. Now Ego loves the Soul because the Soul is light and Ego is  drawn to the Light of its own Soul.

Just what transpired through a most recent death/rebirth process.

Just sharing ...

Julia undefined

[Mina-Laura]

Ego is the one and only one obstacle to enlightenment.

Thank you DH

     Dear Laura, could you say what you said, in a more understandable way? Plain and simple will do just fine. I believe that you are saying something important.   Larry

Dear Larry,


I believe you refer to what I said here:

Dear All,

If you know of Egyptian mythology, Thoth allows humans to "pass" only of their souls weights less than a feather.

This truth is to be observed and is mostly revealed with about anything that causes a reaction within.
Reactions are unhealed wounds of the soul. It keeps one absorbed in Ego's dead-end processing. It keeps the soul heavy. There is the fine line at getting at the Light which hides behind the shadow (darkness, ego) because we have to wrestle with those reactions for a while until we decide that again is nothing but again something to keep your Mind busy and away from finding the Light.
The gate is narrow indeed because we have to squeeze through it...through the hurt and pain that it causes.

love - Laura

After a bit of reflection I will do my best to quote the words as I read them and offer some explanations as I understand them. These words were spoken by a man named Yehuda Berg. In the view of the exchanges of this post I consider them the best to address this situation.

"The purpose of your existence is to allow the full intensity of the Light to shine in your life and this world.
This is called heaven on Earth. "

As we all know it the Light is the Christ within as Adrian explained in so many letters and also as is in all the books that you may have gotten from him. And again we all agree that (in spite of who or what that human was) Jesus had that Light shining bright and unobliterated, sharing with people, teaching the truth.

Whether you are a doctor, plumber, artist, carpenter, factory worker, engineer, ... you have 2 ways to carry out your work and conduct your life.

1. Through the Ego, doubting or oblivious to the truth of Light, considering only yourself

2. Through the humility of your soul, constantly finding the Light and considering the needs of others

Your career, your family, friends and about everybody you come in contact are here for one purpose - to provide opportunities for you to carry out your personal transformation. They give you the chance to let go of your Ego, selfishness, and envy and, in turn, find the Light.



Curtains that block out the light

Each time you allow your Ego to control your behaviour in business, marriage, your relations with other people, another curtain is suspended concealing the Light of your soul and the Light of the Creator. Within this added darkness, your ego grows stronger, your true self becomes more concealed, and life grows progressively darker.

This is called Reactive Behaviour - you react to the impulse of the ego.

Each time you resist your ego, you tear down a curtain.

This is called Proactive Behaviour - you stop your reflexive egocentric impulses and unleash the proactive will of your soul. Life grow brighter.

So now you know!! The Light hides behind the ego  - and all of its abundant reactive traits. Unfortunately, we have all been socially conditioned to focus on our good traits, our charming qualities, our positive characteristics. We totally ignore, deny, and neglect our dark side.

This is why we have failed to find the Light! We've been looking in the wrong place since the dawn of our existence.

There are 2 ways to remove the curtains that obscure the Light of the soul: suffering or spiritual transformation. That's all. There are no other options.

Why we suffer

When we suffer, when we experience pain, when we undergo grief and heartache, the hurting actually purges ego and self-interest from our nature. The soul - our true self - shines brighter in that moment.

Our egos diminish from the emotional pain and our soul suddenly blossom. (This is why we run to help others when we're exposed to pain and suffering, or do other selfless acts )

However the Ego strikes back


So.. why hasn't the suffering you've experienced in your life left you full of the endless joy that comes with Light? The problem with suffering as a path to Light is that with a few exceptions, the changes in ego are temporary. Why? Because the memory of our pain subsides, the ego again tempts us into reacting to its impulses. In turn our new reactions resurrect the ego's power.

Over time the ego slowly but surely regains its strength and reclaims control.

The soul influence begins to fade. Your good mood, new priorities, and caring feelings gibe way to rotten moods and intolerance. daily life goes back to one reaction after another.

So what are you to do?

Must you experience always catastrophe to 'wake up' for a short while, only to find your ego lulling back into a false sense of security?

Fortunately no.

The answer stands in spiritual transformation.

The Bible... Jesus Christ...  It ain't about religion. !!!!

It never was. Religion fosters hatred. It gives raise to war and genocide - all in the name of God.

War, hatred, genocide are not any of God's name. Neither is name calling, leashing in a passionate outburst of judgemental attitude. Making up your mind about crucifying someone before you have all the data or facts or care to interpret correctly the words spoken?...
Get it once and forever that you need to use your will to stay away from all these negative vibrations.

The fact of the matter is that divine wisdom, by its very nature, can evoke only harmony between people.

If a so called religion or spirituality displays any form of hostility or division within its own ranks or toward another religious faith, if it doesn't generate Light and it doesn't provide answers to most challenging questions 100% of the time, then something is amiss.

Conflict, intolerance, and darkness cannot, by definition, exist in the presence of Light and true spirituality.

By the way, you'll know if a spiritual wisdom is pure and connected if, as you learn, you catch yourself  saying, "wow, I already knew this. I always felt these truths somewhere deep inside of me."

(If you don't say this at least once while reading this, then you can throw this in the trash!)


I guess it was a long read. I hope it was of good use.

"The narrow gate" means constant vigilance in taming your ego - constant spiritual awareness is stopping your Reactive Behaviour and replacing it with Proactive Behaviour.
And is not easy!! as ego doesn't let itself teared apart .. so in time we have to learn to LOVE our Egos, and I mean unconditionally love them as they are as they are a part of us and will always be. Befriend your ego..watch it and learn to recognise its impulses.

In time while we do this we will suddenly find ourselves looking at ourselves.  And the Ego... is nothing else but that little child inside of us that in the past has been hurt, abused,  denied, never loved, judged, ignored, spoiled,  by others and so on. You are the best to know what your sweet dear child inside of you has endured and suffered.
No wonder that poor kid is so Reactive!! After all it does nothing else but try to protect itself the best he/she knows.

Remember stop your Reactive Behaviour and replace it with Proactive Behaviour. Stop your fast impulse to react striking back in judgement, hate, envy ..etc.. and make an effort to replace it with understanding, acceptance, love...

Remember there is another little hurt child in the person you strike at... perhaps you might want to give that other hurt child a hug and some love, same as you would like to get it in return.

Remember to remember to love yourself (your small little child that lacked in love, your wounded ego...)

As you remember to love yourself 'exactly the way you are' - accept yourself 'exactly the way you are' without hiding behind the mask of denial you expose yourself naked to the Light. You are as once you have been in presence of God - in the Garden of Eden : before the fall!!   

Remember what happened at the fall?? the little kid made a mistake and tried to hide it.
That was the original Sin. Not the fact that he ate from the tree of knowledge. But the double whammy of:  "no, I haven't done it!!" and if that was not bad enough "She made me do it!!" 

That was the moment when the ego was born: the curtain was drawn over the truth.

The point zero?? take your inner kid in your arms, give it a sloppy kiss tell him/her: "I love you, I forgive you as you forgive me" and together let that curtain fall once and for all.


(and if you haven't shed a tear by now.. forget about it)

Bible?? Jesus Christ yeah is all an alegory

Religion? is just a word -


What people do when blinded within their Reactive Behaviour is not.

****
Larry do I have to tell you I love you? after I spent about 2 hours writing this? was your patience so much tried that you had to hurt with your words a poor overworked mother because you suffered for the Light? If my little child, the Ego - my former Reactive self was still acting up what would I have done???

Anyway I only have to thank you. I guess I do spend to much time in here instead of minding my own business - you are not the first one to tell me, however the first one was more kind in telling it to me.

One thing I learned in this life that without intention  we can actually hurt others by trying to do to much.

Good luck with finding the Light and  learning to love your little inner child. Yourself.




hugs and love (you too Darrell and about anybody else who had a small spark of recognition while reading this)  - Laura

[DH]

I hear you Julia.

We're from the same generation and I probably had some similar "aggressive" parenting as you and Darrell.  I'm glad ego energy worked positively for you.  That is certainly needed at specific times.
 
I would say that Ego had an important place in my early childhood and enabled me to survive personal childhood tragedies and keep my sanity even to this day.  I wouldn't say kill the ego.

But I also know the limitations. Ego does keep track of its victories and offenses and is very good at holding it against us and others. It keeps us  trapped in self-pity and self-righteousness.  When I start reading some threads on these topics, they start getting a little snarky and judgmental as they extoll the greatness of their particular ego opinion and poo poo the opinions of others. 

Bruised egos make themselves known quickly, for there is a need to defend and correct.  And in the long run they cut off evolution for a time.  The focus is on defending the self -- not looking for someone to help.

[Adrian]

Dear Larry,

       Dear Laura, For someone so busy, you sure do post a lot on this forum. Let me thank you for stooping so low to my level. Interesting, you used the word patience in referring to me. ("please try to find patience.") I've seen you and Adrian both, show a lack of that word recently.    Maybe in about 10,000 more incarnations, I will achieve youres and his level of importance. Narrow is the gate leading to where you guys are. Your lowly groveling redheaded welfare child,  larry        PS  I support Darrell. Someone assuming a leadership role and preaching something that will cause bondage to people, needs a spanking.  But I regress, lets just love them into the light.

I post a very large number of messages to this forum. Are you suggesting, by your logic, that I am not busy either?

I welcome all constructive posts and even criticisms - through which we all may learn.

What I will not and never will tolerate are Ad Hominem attacks on myself, Laura or anyone else.

Such attacks simply betray where you are in your personal evolution.

I am asking you - this time - to please refrain from any further such attacks, otherwise I will have no choice but to ensure that it does not happen again in the interests of the usually exceptional harmony of this forum

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[zensunni7]

Morning All

Honesty = visibility. Spirituality demands we see the situations before us as they are, not as we desire them to be. Dealing with the reality that people are dying in the name of God as a tradition of the Human race. Why must it be wounds that cause me to speak in the manner I chose? Why must I be be coming from a place of past wounding's to speak the reality before our eyes? Those needing to fix me are seeking their own healing, seeing their own wounds on my Soul.
I do not to need validation of my past being released from me, to say my heart requires a healthy and healed heart to do so. Courage is not complacent in the face of adversity. Survival came from Ego and living from Soul. Together they chose to be One in the experiences of our past.
Ego and Self are only at war when divided in judgment. A house divided cannot stand, nor can a Human Being. I do not debate my words here, nor do I apologize for it.
Healing in abuse comes quickly, by using the ability's we seek here to develop intuitively, the ability we are told belong only to a select few, or just One.
As a child I recall vividly returning to my body and healing as I re-entered it layer by layer. Guided by unseen hands, and soothed by unseen voices, healed and ready to go again.

Darrell

[Larry]

  Good morning Darrell, thank you again for shining your light on a subject of such great importance. The world needs to see it clearly. Kill in the holy name of god. The big three religions are still busy doing just that. I'm sure that their god is proud of them. You do not need healing. I believe that you are here for a purpose. Your life history made you who you are today. Couple that with your spiritual understanding, and you make a fine homospiritus. I know that you love all people. It is the harm that they do that you point out. I'm tired of seeing inocent people die in the name of someones god. I believe that the people that are saying that you are in bondage to your wounds, are in need of a reality check. They need to realize that they are human and spirit. Not just spirit. I've steped on some toes here in this forum. I call it like I see it. I was told that I'm on the border line of the lower world. I say, to know me is to love me. I've been put on restriction, so I had better watch what I say. If I'm kicked out of here, I can be reached at Larrylynn@tampabay.rr.com Love, Larry

[Adrian]

Dear Larry,

  Good morning Darrell, thank you again for shining your light on a subject of such great importance. The world needs to see it clearly. Kill in the holy name of god. The big three religions are still busy doing just that. I'm sure that their god is proud of them. You do not need healing. I believe that you are here for a purpose. Your life history made you who you are today. Couple that with your spiritual understanding, and you make a fine homospiritus. I know that you love all people. It is the harm that they do that you point out. I'm tired of seeing inocent people die in the name of someones god. I believe that the people that are saying that you are in bondage to your wounds, are in need of a reality check. They need to realize that they are human and spirit. Not just spirit. I've steped on some toes here in this forum. I call it like I see it. I was told that I'm on the border line of the lower world. I say, to know me is to love me. I've been put on restriction, so I had better watch what I say. If I'm kicked out of here, I can be reached at Larrylynn@tampabay.rr.com Love, Larry

You are not being "restricted" or "booted out of here".

It is not what you say but who you direct it at and the tone of such direction.

I have ignored such behaviour in the past, but your pointed comments are designed to be aggressive.

So please feel free to continue your posts - which are generally very good contributions expressing alternative viewpoints, but please do not drag individual members in to your ideas.

And do not use "being human" as an excuse - you are not the only human in these forums.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[Mina-Laura]

My beloved Adrian, Darrell and at last but not least Larry (the cable guy ..lol..)

Adrian I respect and salute your powerful masculine energy and your firm hand and position in order and discipline. As of late you have more and more reaffirmed the leader qualities needed to make firm and clear cut judgement.



Darrell I see you as you are, love and accept you. However...what Pure Energy said hit a very sensitive cord inside you and you should really examine that. I personally do not enjoy what that it does to you (you have no idea on how it hurts, on how that hurt feels to me, remember when we are One is not only you that is hurting...)
      Yes there is no need to apologise and no need to justify  - and let our actions be true to this!!!



Larry a year ago a very good friend told me: "listen more and speak less" - I believe you asked for more 'insight' so again please go back and read everything.
We are here only for your healing...


As for all of you please understand I am not attacked.
Never.
Nothing can ever hurt me. Not anymore! And I only have one wish where this is concerned, that I could bring my contribution in making everybody understand there is no need for any of this .. - sort of attitudes.

Forgiveness also means telling your child : "We do talk like this, we do not act like this, now please start again " And this is what Adrian is telling.


I believe that everything that happens is meant first of all for my own personal development.
If there is an attack addressed at me I only have to look deeper for the truth of what caused that and take measure to 'fix' within.
Larry you are here also to teach me something of that please be assured. We all have a function to perform, and mine or yours is no less or more than anyone else.

Please look for that inner child you are a beautiful being - when you heal within, your body is also healed.

I do have to 'curb' my time spent in here in this forum, as much as I love it, I have other duties that I would not want to suffer because of this. So for this alone I thank you!! 

Now all of you give me a hug and say: May the force be with you! - for I need it ...




love - Laura

[zensunni7]

Hello Laura

No point in going on about all of this. I saw a portal for feelings I feel strongly about, and it is not a flawed view of my abuse, it is very much the present. Flow is passion not resisted.
Perhaps I accept it much better than you do. You know some of me - true enough, and yes, we are all One. But - is the key word there isn't it? But - however - perhaps, all preludes to judgment, be they subtle or profound.
I honor us all - even Pure Energy's perspectives and disagreement with her regardless of the passion of it. My sensitivity is something I am proud to still possess in such abundance.
Adrian is a leader as are we all here, or well on our way to be. Yet your admiration may cloud you sometimes in your perspective of the rest of us.
Larry,
If we did not feel strongly and passionately about the actions of war for God, we would not have pursued the spiritual path we all walked to be here. Each of us has valuable offerings in this forum. Our view of each other is like the view in space, no up or down - Just ' over there ' perspective and equally valid.

Love
Darrell

[juliainkc]

Good Morning DH,

Thank you for your response, I hear you as well my brother.

I hear you Julia.

We're from the same generation and I probably had some similar "aggressive" parenting as you and Darrell.  I'm glad ego energy worked positively for you.  That is certainly needed at specific times.
 
I would say that Ego had an important place in my early childhood and enabled me to survive personal childhood tragedies and keep my sanity even to this day.  I wouldn't say kill the ego.

But I also know the limitations. Ego does keep track of its victories and offenses and is very good at holding it against us and others. It keeps us  trapped in self-pity and self-righteousness.  When I start reading some threads on these topics, they start getting a little snarky and judgmental as they extoll the greatness of their particular ego opinion and poo poo the opinions of others. 

Bruised egos make themselves known quickly, for there is a need to defend and correct.  And in the long run they cut off evolution for a time.  The focus is on defending the self -- not looking for someone to help.

This statement is very much a part of the process of recovery or discovery. It seems ego is more prevalent in our early years (this could be until one is in their 40's all the way up until 80's and on, 'age' is not so much the factor in other words) during this ego prevalent time, Soul takes the back of the house position. Soul is gaining experience through ego's communication. I am very keen on the Sacred Ceremonies of the rites of passage as I am sure you understand.

From Soul now taking precedence, ego does not die, ego now takes the back of the house position and from this Union of Ego and Soul a new child is born. The Spirit Child which is now able to transverse between two worlds. Sacred Alchemy, newness, new patterns via Sacred Geometry. Changing of the patterns if one is willing to allow the process to continue.

Having experienced birthing myself and being present with others while birthing, I will say, it can be a very diverse experience. Birth is messy and sometimes violent, but the  child born yields the Joy of the experience.

Perhaps it is in allowing the bruised or wounded egos to know that they are recognized and accepted and heard and maybe that is all that they need. Not to be abandoned into isolation and sent to their rooms, never to be heard from again.

In my sifting and sorting and going through the passages which have brought me to this moment, I have found for myself that it has been by listening and reassuring all of me of this;

'....The moment of surrender is not when life is over. It's when life begins.'  ~ portion of today's calendar reading ~

It's all God.

Many Blessings, Be Well,

Love,

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Larry,

Hello Laura

No point in going on about all of this. I saw a portal for feelings I feel strongly about, and it is not a flawed view of my abuse, it is very much the present. Flow is passion not resisted.
Perhaps I accept it much better than you do. You know some of me - true enough, and yes, we are all One. But - is the key word there isn't it? But - however - perhaps, all preludes to judgment, be they subtle or profound.
I honor us all - even Pure Energy's perspectives and disagreement with her regardless of the passion of it. My sensitivity is something I am proud to still possess in such abundance.
Adrian is a leader as are we all here, or well on our way to be. Yet your admiration may cloud you sometimes in your perspective of the rest of us.
Larry,
If we did not feel strongly and passionately about the actions of war for God, we would not have pursued the spiritual path we all walked to be here. Each of us has valuable offerings in this forum. Our view of each other is like the view in space, no up or down - Just ' over there ' perspective and equally valid.

Love
Darrell

I can assure you I see you as you are (all of you, all of I).

I pray one day you would see yourself through my eyes. For now just loving tears.

love - Laura

[juliainkc]

Dear Darrell and All,

Morning All

Honesty = visibility. Spirituality demands we see the situations before us as they are, not as we desire them to be. Dealing with the reality that people are dying in the name of God as a tradition of the Human race. Why must it be wounds that cause me to speak in the manner I chose? Why must I be be coming from a place of past wounding's to speak the reality before our eyes? Those needing to fix me are seeking their own healing, seeing their own wounds on my Soul.
I do not to need validation of my past being released from me, to say my heart requires a healthy and healed heart to do so. Courage is not complacent in the face of adversity. Survival came from Ego and living from Soul. Together they chose to be One in the experiences of our past.
Ego and Self are only at war when divided in judgment. A house divided cannot stand, nor can a Human Being. I do not debate my words here, nor do I apologize for it.
Healing in abuse comes quickly, by using the ability's we seek here to develop intuitively, the ability we are told belong only to a select few, or just One.
As a child I recall vividly returning to my body and healing as I re-entered it layer by layer. Guided by unseen hands, and soothed by unseen voices, healed and ready to go again.

Darrell

Hello Laura

No point in going on about all of this. I saw a portal for feelings I feel strongly about, and it is not a flawed view of my abuse, it is very much the present. Flow is passion not resisted.
Perhaps I accept it much better than you do. You know some of me - true enough, and yes, we are all One. But - is the key word there isn't it? But - however - perhaps, all preludes to judgment, be they subtle or profound.
I honor us all - even Pure Energy's perspectives and disagreement with her regardless of the passion of it. My sensitivity is something I am proud to still possess in such abundance.
Adrian is a leader as are we all here, or well on our way to be. Yet your admiration may cloud you sometimes in your perspective of the rest of us.
Larry,
If we did not feel strongly and passionately about the actions of war for God, we would not have pursued the spiritual path we all walked to be here. Each of us has valuable offerings in this forum. Our view of each other is like the view in space, no up or down - Just ' over there ' perspective and equally valid.

Love
Darrell

Such wise words my brother. Indeed we are our own leaders as we can only answer to ourself by Being Real and True to ourself.

Those who seek to allow others to lead them always have the possibility due to disloyalty to one's own Self of chasing after another leader. Or as one saying said, willing to sell one's soul for a piece of bread.

Thank you for sharing Darrell.

Love to you and All,

Julia