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« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2009, 23:03:41 »

Adrian I am confused

Aquafina and Dasani are actually water from normal reservoirs the same as tap water. But as Fluouride is injected during "purification" those products should not have Fluoride in them.

Are you saying they do have Fluoride in them or are you saying they do not?

I do not drive... My only salvation is that I eat less. If I eat less I am thirsty less.
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« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2009, 03:18:18 »

Dear Louis,


Are you saying they do have Fluoride in them or are you saying they do not?

I am saying they should not. The dark forces do not add Fluorides to reservoirs - it is added at the water processing plant.

However - any company that uses Aspartame - which is nasty stuff - clearly does not have the consumer in mind.

Fluorides are used for one thing - as a "chemical lobotomy" - which is why the Nazis added fluorides to the water supply of Jews in WW2. Of course there is also a whole catalogue of other nasty effects.

I state these facts - which are proven - not to scare you, but that you may exercise a choice.

Regarding Aquafina, I can only tell you what I would do. I would contact the manufacturer directly - by email or letter so it is in writing - and ask the questions - does this product include Fluoride? What do you add to this product before bottling etc.

If they do not respond - stop drinking it right away.

As I have said many times before subject - find your own water supply.

Now given you do not have a car, filtration is the best bet - providing it filters everything.

I watched a History Channel program yesterday, and it was said that within 30 years - which may be moot as things are - a gallon of drinking water will cost more than a gallon of oil.

The good news is that they also featured an inventor who has a working product that produces pure, drinkable water from any water source including river water or raw sewage. A home unit would currently be around $2000 and because it uses a self-contained Energy loop would use the electricity of a light bulb.

There are always choices.

This is one reason I cherish were I live. The water here will be always pure and plentiful. Anyone can move to live in such a location as I did - not just for water - for everything.
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Everyone in the "modern world" eats and drinks way too much.

Eating fruit provides all the water we need. We still need to know that the fruit has been grown naturally though - or grow your own.

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Adrian.

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« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2009, 16:39:38 »

You live over in Ireland or Scotland don't you Adrian?  It sounds beautiful over there. 

How do you go about growing bananas or oranges though - plant the trees?
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« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2009, 17:11:29 »

Dear Gretch,

You live over in Ireland or Scotland don't you Adrian?  It sounds beautiful over there. 

How do you go about growing bananas or oranges though - plant the trees?

I actually live on a small island between the UK and Ireland - and it is absolutely beautiful.

We cannot grow tropical fruits here - far to cool and cloudy for most of the year - even in the Summer. It is around 6 Celsius today.

Of course we can grow apples, many types of berries etc outside, and lots of other plants and fruits under glass.

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« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2009, 17:40:41 »

Dear Adrian,


I have a question.

So, after all this talk about what we eat and drink, where do we draw the line between caution and fear, common sense and feasible. Realistically I do not think moving to escape world order is the solution. Where would that leave "we do not let anyone behind"?

I just feel that the way of latest talk trend is moving in the fear zone. Realistically and personally I am doing the best I can and always did to the best of my knowledge at the time. But there's an old saying in Transylvania that goes something like this: "as cautious as you may be there are some things that only God would protect you of".

What I am saying here is that if I didn't know you I would think you are scared (of all these things) which of course is very far from truth. Again if I didn't know you better I would think that you are trying to impose your lifestyle upon others which is impossible however I know again this is far from truth.

As I know that with all relationships and people we come in contact we are presented with a Mirror to look upon... thus we get to exercise that love and compassion needed to raise the Christ within, I just don't know what am I looking at anymore (the tipping of balance?!?).


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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2009, 18:36:23 »

Dear Laura,

Dear Adrian,


I have a question.

So, after all this talk about what we eat and drink, where do we draw the line between caution and fear, common sense and feasible. Realistically I do not think moving to escape world order is the solution. Where would that leave "we do not let anyone behind"?

I just feel that the way of latest talk trend is moving in the fear zone. Realistically and personally I am doing the best I can and always did to the best of my knowledge at the time. But there's an old saying in Transylvania that goes something like this: "as cautious as you may be there are some things that only God would protect you of".

What I am saying here is that if I didn't know you I would think you are scared (of all these things) which of course is very far from truth. Again if I didn't know you better I would think that you are trying to impose your lifestyle upon others which is impossible however I know again this is far from truth.

As I know that with all relationships and people we come in contact we are presented with a Mirror to look upon... thus we get to exercise that love and compassion needed to raise the Christ within, I just don't know what am I looking at anymore (the tipping of balance?!?).

love

I understand the predicament completely. You will note that my newsletters rarely include negative situations unless I believe that knowledge is power, and there is more benefit from people knowing than not knowing.

Regarding food and water - sure - you could eat - and feed your children - foods and drinks that contain large amounts of toxins - many deliberately added by law for dark reasons and many cumulative - and just live in blissful ignorance until is catches up with you - which it will - or you can choose only healthy, natural, fresh food and drink for yourself and children and remain vibrantly healthy.

Which would you choose?

Would you rather know of not know?

If you would rather know then obviously it will sound negative, because it is negative  - these are extremely dark and negative subjects and very serious issues indeed.

I cite my lifestyle not to impose, but as an example - I do as I say.

I choose my words very carefully, but in matters such as these in such a way as to encourage thought and action, and not "beat about the bush".

I do not wish to see readers became ill through poisoning if I could have suggested ways to avoid it.

Once commercial organic food becomes illegal, you have a direct choice whether to eat the stuff or empower yourself - perhaps with others.  I see community farming as a real way forward for example.

If you cannot and do not wish to grow your own foods, and do not wish to consume the poisoned food in shops, to put it bluntly your only practical choices are to move or starve.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.




 
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« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2009, 18:55:32 »

If you cannot and do not wish to grow your own foods, and do not wish to consume the poisoned food in shops, to put it bluntly your only practical choices are to move or starve.

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« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2009, 19:03:10 »

I found it

Unless you buy bottled water with added fluoride, most bottled water is very low in fluoride.  Aquafina has 0.05 ppm.  Propel Fitness Water has 0.02.  Others are a bit higher.  Tap water (municipal and well) has about 0.71 ppm.  Only a reverse osmosis filter will remove fluoride.  We filter our water, but the fluoride is still there.

http://tynanfamily.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/iodine-fluoride-and-thyroid-function/

Fluoride & Iodine is in a lot of stuff!
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« Reply #68 on: March 30, 2009, 04:57:30 »

Dear Loius,

Fluoride & Iodine is in a lot of stuff!

It depends on the location and water source.

There are very few halogen ions in our water supply. The reservoirs are filled from streams coming down from higher ground - all Trout streams.

I seriously doubt whether Fluorides are present in dangerous levels in any natural water supply.

Of course what most people do not know is that Fluorides added to drinking water are a bye-product of aluminium production - Aluminium Fluoride- that would normally be disposed of, but which Alcoa and others persuaded the US government agencies to purchase for a high price to dump in to drinking water.

Fluoride is all about money and control through brain damage.

As I mentioned before - Fluorides are cumulative toxins - they remain in the body and increase in concentration throughout life - and the governments know it.

Adding Fluoride to bottled water is an obscenity which totally contradicts the value of bottled water.

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« Reply #69 on: March 30, 2009, 13:48:31 »

Dear Adrian,

Dear Laura,

Dear Adrian,


I have a question.

So, after all this talk about what we eat and drink, where do we draw the line between caution and fear, common sense and feasible. Realistically I do not think moving to escape world order is the solution. Where would that leave "we do not let anyone behind"?

I just feel that the way of latest talk trend is moving in the fear zone. Realistically and personally I am doing the best I can and always did to the best of my knowledge at the time. But there's an old saying in Transylvania that goes something like this: "as cautious as you may be there are some things that only God would protect you of".

What I am saying here is that if I didn't know you I would think you are scared (of all these things) which of course is very far from truth. Again if I didn't know you better I would think that you are trying to impose your lifestyle upon others which is impossible however I know again this is far from truth.

As I know that with all relationships and people we come in contact we are presented with a Mirror to look upon... thus we get to exercise that love and compassion needed to raise the Christ within, I just don't know what am I looking at anymore (the tipping of balance?!?).

love

I understand the predicament completely. You will note that my newsletters rarely include negative situations unless I believe that knowledge is power, and there is more benefit from people knowing than not knowing.

Regarding food and water - sure - you could eat - and feed your children - foods and drinks that contain large amounts of toxins - many deliberately added by law for dark reasons and many cumulative - and just live in blissful ignorance until is catches up with you - which it will - or you can choose only healthy, natural, fresh food and drink for yourself and children and remain vibrantly healthy.

Which would you choose?

Would you rather know of not know?

If you would rather know then obviously it will sound negative, because it is negative  - these are extremely dark and negative subjects and very serious issues indeed.

I cite my lifestyle not to impose, but as an example - I do as I say.

I choose my words very carefully, but in matters such as these in such a way as to encourage thought and action, and not "beat about the bush".

I do not wish to see readers became ill through poisoning if I could have suggested ways to avoid it.

Once commercial organic food becomes illegal, you have a direct choice whether to eat the stuff or empower yourself - perhaps with others.  I see community farming as a real way forward for example.

If you cannot and do not wish to grow your own foods, and do not wish to consume the poisoned food in shops, to put it bluntly your only practical choices are to move or starve.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.




 



Indeed I am a fervent supporter of public education and awareness.

Of course is advisable that people move in areas where water and food are safe. Nobody should put up with living in unsafe conditions, however at the same time in the end there's no running anywhere. As far as we know with our limited senses we only have one home, a beautiful blue planet to live on. 
The only solution is that us as a whole we take better care of it.

Realistically I do not think you/we can survive from veggies grown in one patch of garden. At world wide level we need eachother. Willing or not we are at the stage of living where we all depend upon eachother. You like your almonds and olives and we know you cannot grow those yourself.

People from Australia will tell you about recent draughts and water economy measures. Now, isn't it a bit ridiculous that people move from an area in USA abundant in streams and fresh water supply to Australia just because the higher ups decided to fluoridate water, or because there the 'imminent' threat to criminalise organic farming?!?

If all people raise their thoughts and voices to support Organic Farming, stopping water fluoridation and so on it will happen for sure. As a matter of fact if you read any statistics Organic Farming is on the raise - where in the 70s was practically non-existent in the USA.

If people raise their thoughts and voices to speak for terminating water fluoridation it will happen. In the mean time there are available filtration systems.
If people raise their thoughts and voices to speak for what is good for them and their children shift and change happens.

Actually I don't know about the rest but I have observed that the moment something comes under public scrutiny and people are informed about it, a change in good is imminent.

Again I cannot speak for other parts of the worlds, you may think Isle of Man is a heaven, I may think that Toronto is a great place but what I really think is that no place is absolutely perfect (yet Wink )... we are getting there, hopefully before the suprmassive spaceship shows up in the sky to save us...  afro
 
Although the government recommended fluoride levels in water is between 0.8 and 1.2 - the level of fluoride in Toronto, Canada's water was reduced from 1.2 to 0.8 mg/L in 1999 and to 0.6 mg/L in 2005.
In 2006 water fluoridation was provisioned to be stopped entirely and this was due to the fact that the chemical used is highly corrosive and damages the piping system. I haven't found what happened after.

Toronto-based Citizens for a Safe Environment (CSE) wants fluoridation stopped entirely in Toronto http://www.naturalnews.com/023896.html

At the same time I read with sadness that:
American children consume much more fluoride than Canadian children evidence shows.

The U.S. EPA also allows high amounts of (sulfuryl) fluoride pesticide residues to remain on foods which is not so in Canada, according to Health Canada.

In the U.S., up to 48% of children have fluorosis, with 4% moderate/severe, according to the CDC.
While dental Fluorosis is an obvious sign of fluoride toxicity, unseen is fluoride's toxic bodily effects.

....

There have now been over 40 animal studies which show that fluoride can damage the brain, and no less than 18 studies which show that fluoride lowers IQ in children, and only 2 that don't," says Connett.

The latest issue of the journal Fluoride published 12 newly-translated Chinese studies, which report fluoride's effects on the brain, including the lowering of IQ in children.
http://fluoridealert.org/fluoride.v41.2.2008.pdf




In the end what I wanted to say is that while indeed the threat is not to be dismissed we can look at it from a constructive and positive perspective.

And I do believe that mass consciousness produces a change at entire planet level.


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« Reply #70 on: March 30, 2009, 18:56:44 »

Realistically I do not think you/we can survive from veggies grown in one patch of garden. At world wide level we need eachother. Willing or not we are at the stage of living where we all depend upon eachother. You like your almonds and olives and we know you cannot grow those yourself.

Right on!
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« Reply #71 on: March 30, 2009, 20:01:15 »

Wonderful post Laura!!!

BTW all, flouride? check out your toothpaste! Yes, even your children's. wink

just a thought...
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« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2009, 20:08:09 »

I was using TOMS Fluoride Free Vegan paste. I'm out of it now so I went back to regular.
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« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2009, 09:46:31 »

Dear Julia, Smiley

Wonderful post Laura!!!

BTW all, flouride? check out your toothpaste! Yes, even your children's. wink

just a thought...


Thank you. Yes indeed all experts that are 'awake' say that the fluoride in toothpaste is enough for dental precautionary anti cavity effect. A certain amount of fluoride is needed for proper balance for instance in the area where I grew up the fluoride levels were extreme low, consequence all people have terrible teeth regardless of diet or dental hygiene. Now..I don't know about brain damage, I come to learn that can be cause by far to many factors ... cool..lol..
Now the fluoridated mouthwash it should never be used and NEVER by children as they may swallow it and that would bring the fluoride intake at dangerous levels.

A normal level of natural fluoride in water should be between 0.2- 0.5 mg/L. At least that what's in areas where it occurs naturally and people benefit of excellent teeth.
On a sidenote I noticed that USA people have wonderful looking teeth while in Europe not quite so. However I have friends from other countries like Egypt and India and they also have great teeth.


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« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2009, 13:17:30 »

Dear All,

Fluoride in toothpaste is not an issue - in fact it may even be genuinely beneficial as a topical application.

It is when it is swallowed that the issues start to arise.

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