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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2007, 08:23:33 » |
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Hello andymonk, The image you are interested in is a Mandala which is any concentric design with repeated geometrical patterns. Mandalas have been used for a very long time and are still used presently mainly in Hindu and Buddhist religions as a meditation device. Mandala is claimed to have a power (if contemplated or meditated upon) to connect to one’s higher self and to the spiritual realms. It basically offers a structure and a focus to the visual perception, and thus aids in creating an inner focus, which is invaluable for meditation. You can read more about it in Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MandalaOr just do a Google search for “mandala”.
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 13:56:27 » |
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What about the pentagram and hexgram?
Other than the commonly known applications by various traditions on this plane of existence, has anyone ever encountered these two symbols on the astral plane, or other experienced realms?
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 08:36:57 » |
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What about the pentagram and hexgram?
Hello Questioner, The pentagram has fascinated people and early seekers like the Pythagoreans since a long time. Besides being a perfect and stable – rigid geometrical shape, it also symbolizes the human body with the hands and legs outstretched. Is not it curious that such a shape as a human body that is hard to define in precise geometrical shapes has found a rigid shape of a pentogram to represent it? Is not this the case with a lot of our reality, which we are trying to capture into and explain with shapes and rigid laws? It is said that the height of a person is equal to the length of his outstretched hands, measured between the tips of the middle fingers. You can read more on pentagrams in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PentagramAs for hexagram, it also a geometrical image with many symbolical interpretations and connotations, especially in occultism. It is once again our way of symbolically structuring the inner realities, and having a starting point of interpreting them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexagram
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2007, 16:12:34 » |
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Hello andymonk, The image you are interested in is a Mandala which is any concentric design with repeated geometrical patterns. Mandalas have been used for a very long time and are still used presently mainly in Hindu and Buddhist religions as a meditation device. Mandala is claimed to have a power (if contemplated or meditated upon) to connect to one’s higher self and to the spiritual realms. It basically offers a structure and a focus to the visual perception, and thus aids in creating an inner focus, which is invaluable for meditation. You can read more about it in Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MandalaOr just do a Google search for “mandala”. I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation.  X
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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 07:09:31 » |
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I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation. :-)X
Hello Andymonk, You have a great associative mind since you see similar patterns in different things. With your power of deduction you have a great ability to discover something out there, outside of you. I invite you though to ask yourself, why are you attracted to this pattern to which others might only give a momentary attention. What is it in you that needs to delve into it? Is it some inner reality of yours that leads you in this direction? Is it your thirst to experience your own inner flower of life that causes you to be alive and makes you vibrate with life energy deep inside you; your inner flower of life that would make you discover your purpose of living in this physical plane, and would make you enjoy your life fully and creatively?
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 10:17:45 » |
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I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation. :-)X
Hello Andymonk, You have a great associative mind since you see similar patterns in different things. With your power of deduction you have a great ability to discover something out there, outside of you. I invite you though to ask yourself, why are you attracted to this pattern to which others might only give a momentary attention. What is it in you that needs to delve into it? Is it some inner reality of yours that leads you in this direction? Is it your thirst to experience your own inner flower of life that causes you to be alive and makes you vibrate with life energy deep inside you; your inner flower of life that would make you discover your purpose of living in his physical plane, and would make you enjoy your life fully and creatively? The complete ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life. The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation itself.  x http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 12:54:53 » |
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The COMPLETE FOL contains the metatron cube,all the platonic solids and the kabbalahs tree of life. This could be said to be the building blocks of life its self. It has already been said that the FOL pattern represents the "the building blocks of life." But, we must remember that this was also once said of the Platonic Solids, and the Tree of Life. Each of these patterns are "geometrical systems"--both visual and intellectual--created by thinkers who came to see the physical world through a particular lens. And that also includes the FOL. However, there may well be an even more ubiquitous pattern, a true universal gestalt, that has yet to be recognized, that will one day serve as a greater vessel to house the FOL (and all the other patterns within it!) Assuming this to be the case: Why stop with the FOL and assume it to be the "end all be all" of patterns? And in general, I must ask: What is it about the "nature of symbols" that tell us these things? What part of our human makeup compells us to even look for these patterns? Or, is there something inherent in the "structure of symbols" that compell us to take notice of them? Moreover, throughout the centuries, there have been various cultural interps (oftentimes even conflicting interps) of the exact same symbols. So, what do we do about the interpretive fluidity of symbols? If the FOL, or any of the other systems, can indeed be interpreted as "the very building blocks of life itself"---or more specifically, as the "hidden continuous pattern of creation"---what exactly is this telling us about life? Does this knowledge come to an abrupt halt after the recognition of the patterns? Or, are there practical applications for this knowledge? What can we do with this knowledge? Can this knowledge be agreeably understood on a global level? A universal level? If there is knowledge to be attained, and it can be practically applied, where do we begin? Questions, questions, questions...  Perhaps that is the beauty of sacred geometry... It makes us question the nature of our reality---on many levels!... 
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 09:45:14 » |
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Hello Questioner, You posted some great questions above! Your signature begins “Questions lead us to Answers,…” But what if a question does not lead to an answer
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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 11:50:11 » |
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Hello Questioner, You posted some great questions above! Your signature begins “Questions lead us to Answers,…” But what if a question does not lead to an answer Hey Melody! I have found that any one question rarely ever leads to one particular answer anyway. But this is not a bad thing at all... We may be disappointed, but that is because humans are very spoiled and think that every question should have only one answer!! But, history tells us that there is a clear and certain danger in assuming that there is only one answer to be found for most of our questions In my opinion, we live in a relative universe where questions can be both asked and answered from one relative viewpoint, e.g. specific cultural, political, religious, or gender related viewpoints, but---when we settle for one such answer, are we really finding a true answer at all??? When we settle for just one of these viewpoints, are actually cheating ourselves of the total value of the answer we are seeking?? Metaphorically speaking, I see the answer to every question as being like a multifaceted prism: look at it one way, and it is clear and beautiful; turn it just a fraction of an inch, and it may lose its clarity, or even surpass the clarity of the previous position. The question never loses it's multifaceted prismness, however, but we do discover more and more facets of our inquiry! When we think we have asked a question that leads to "no-answer"--it is probably because we are not finding the answer that we wanted, or that there is something inherently wrong with our question; i.e. we do not have enough available information to be able to ask the right questions, or to truly understand the answers that we seek. This is most especially the case with abstract and metaphysical questions: many of us possess certain knowledge of such things, but oftentimes when we compare notes, we may find general agreement, but the specifics can be quite different. IMO, anyone who claims to know all the answers to such questions should never be trusted!!  As long as we continue asking questions, we will continue to learn more and more about the questions we are asking. This type of learning will inevitably lead to a great many answers--if we are willing to consider all possible answers to our questions. IMO, the more we know, the more evolved we will become. Here is something to consider: If every question is the framework for seeking an answer, isn't it generally true that every answer we do find is not an end in itself? Rather, doesn't every answer usually beg a host of new questions? I have a saying that is hanging on the wall of my office at work; it goes something like this: While we know we have not answered all of your questions, we feel quite confident that we have led you to ask more important questions on a much higher level! 
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2007, 14:21:49 » |
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Hello Questioner, That was a great answer to my question!  And I do like the saying on your office wall: "While we know we have not answered all of your questions, we feel quite confident that we have led you to ask more important questions on a much higher level!"
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 14:29:40 » |
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I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation. :-)X
Hello Andymonk, For those interested about Flower of Life, check it out in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_lifeHere is a quote from Wikipedia: “Sacred geometry can be described as a belief system attributing a religious or cultural value to many of the fundamental forms of space and time. According to this belief system, the basic patterns of existence are perceived as sacred because in contemplating them one is contemplating the origin of all things. By studying the nature of these forms and their relationship to each other, one may seek to gain insight into the scientific, philosophical, psychological, aesthetic and mystical laws of the universe.“ This sound very much like contemplating a Mandala. Maybe the nature of the symbols is to make us contemplate about things that are beyond the everyday existence. Or maybe people just simply like some mystery…  Or maybe it makes them feel good that they have some knowledge that others don’t have. A lot of religious, occult, and secret organizations use various symbols. It must give them a sense of power, of being important, of having some “higher” knowledge that others don’t have. It also gives them a sense of belonging together, the same as a national flag and a hymn does for a country.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 14:54:47 » |
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I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation. :-)X
Hello Andymonk, For those interested about Flower of Life, check it out in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_of_lifeHere is a quote from Wikipedia: “Sacred geometry can be described as a belief system attributing a religious or cultural value to many of the fundamental forms of space and time. According to this belief system, the basic patterns of existence are perceived as sacred because in contemplating them one is contemplating the origin of all things. By studying the nature of these forms and their relationship to each other, one may seek to gain insight into the scientific, philosophical, psychological, aesthetic and mystical laws of the universe.“ This sound very much like contemplating a Mandala. Maybe the nature of the symbols is to make us contemplate about things that are beyond the everyday existence. Or maybe people just simply like some mystery…  Or maybe it makes them feel good that they have some knowledge that others don’t have. A lot of religious, occult, and secret organizations use various symbols. It must give them a sense of power, of being important, of having some “higher” knowledge that others don’t have. It also gives them a sense of belonging together, the same as a national flag and a hymn does for a country. I believe the COMPLETE ancient flower is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,the collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it) . The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original flower(found in "the osireon) at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears.  (Use the hand drawn flower) 4love and light 2all  x The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007, 00:10:11 » |
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The COMPLETE flower is an interdimensional symbol,a portal,a link back to the universal consciousness. The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original flower is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax and let your eyes go out of focus,the flower will open. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it! Its not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. Love and light 2all:-)X (Use the hand drawn flower)
Hello Andymonk, It is great that the Flower of Life opens to you, and “talks” to you. You found a perfect trigger for yourself to get connected to the universal consciousness. You discovered your best angle of the prism (that Questioner so shrewdly described above) to peek into the life’s mysteries. We are all searching for the same path to the Truth, but peer through the same prism from different angles due to our differences.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2007, 17:20:21 » |
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I believe ,the COMPLETE ancient flower of life is a window into the hidden continuous pattern of creation. :-)X
Hello Andymonk, You have a great associative mind since you see similar patterns in different things. With your power of deduction you have a great ability to discover something out there, outside of you. I invite you though to ask yourself, why are you attracted to this pattern to which others might only give a momentary attention. What is it in you that needs to delve into it? Is it some inner reality of yours that leads you in this direction? Is it your thirst to experience your own inner flower of life that causes you to be alive and makes you vibrate with life energy deep inside you; your inner flower of life that would make you discover your purpose of living in his physical plane, and would make you enjoy your life fully and creatively? The COMPLETE FOL contains the metatron cube,all the platonic solids and the kabbalahs tree of life. This could be said to be the building blocks of life its self. This may help any seekers http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm
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