kendar
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« on: August 21, 2008, 09:51:36 » |
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Hi everyone, I do find out that members of this forum are very enlightened about spiritual matters; more so than I think I will ever be. I am beginning my understanding of these issues and therefore I am still in the woods. I however came up across a site which talks of The New Energy and whose ideas are very different to what I have read in this forum. This site has confused me even more. For example;- Don’t make the mistake of desperately searching through your old beloved metaphysical books – channeled or otherwise, famous best sellers or otherwise, to find the answers. You simply won’t find any. The answers are not in the old books... or in most of the new ones either*. Astrology, rituals, affirmations, visualization, incantations, meditation, crystals, spirit guides and hierarchies, mantras, 'mind control' techniques (to name just a few) are duality-based old energy, and old energy tools and practices do not apply or work for the transition into the New – period! We cannot use tools from within a reality system to get out of that reality system... and that includes duality's beloved sine qua non - 'positive' thinking.
Including books like "The Secret". However tempting such books may be with all their wondrous words and foolproof formulas for getting more wealth and 'things' than you ever dreamed possible, they are STILL duality-based old energy... and old energy tools and practices do NOT apply or work etc, etc. Yes, there is most definitely a spiritual 'Law of Attraction' which is always operating; we are ever attracting/magnetizing to us what we are in consciousness. However, this law or principle of attraction is NOT about using cerebrally concocted visualizations and affirmations etc to create what we 'think' we want... which ultimately, as far as our evolutionary/ascension journey goes, may not always be in our best and highest interest anyway. In the TRUE Law of Attraction (The "Real" Secret) the choices we make at a spiritual level automatically take care of all our needs at the human level. The site is as follows;- http://www.pointsofpower.com.au/hints.htmlI should appreciate to hear your considered views regarding the message being progressed by the site. Peace & love to ALL kendar
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Adrian
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 10:21:46 » |
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Dear Kendar,
Thank you for raising this. I have been made aware of the information you have provided before, and it it definitely requires a response.
The first paragraph is a sweeping statement that simply seeks to render redundant all Metaphysical Principles, mostly relating to The Law of Attraction.
For a start my book, Our Ultimate Reality, is often the #1 best selling Metaphysics book on Amazon - and, although of course there is much more in my book - and I certainly do not regard my book in any way redundant, otherwise I would not have devoted so much time and effort to writing it in the first place. Likewise I most certainly do not regard the Science of Being books redundant - quite the contrary in fact.
That said, the core message contains a great deal of truth that I would agree with. What this person is basically saying is that The Law of Attraction, as it is called, does exist, but few understand how it works in relation to our ongoing experiences, and place their emphasis on mechanical rather than Spiritual practices.
Of the techniques the author dismisses, I would certainly not dismiss affirmations, visualisation or meditation. We all know the value of meditation, but, for example, virtually all top athletes without exception use visualisation, and virtually all also use "self-talk" which are another name for affirmations, and all will attribute these to much of their success in conjunction with sheer dedication and practice.
Any method that programs the immense power of the Subconscious Mind will result in its corresponding physical manifestation sooner or later.
The core message however is that there is a much deeper and more profound basis for health, abundance and harmony in our lives, specifically the choices that we make Spiritually - our inner choices.
People who are hopelessly focused in the material world and who believe the source of wealth is "work" and the source of health is "doctors and medicines" and so on will always struggle because this is their chosen material based reality - and it is totally unnatural.
In focusing on Spiritual Growth, and by attending to our inner needs, Divine Providence will always provide whatever we need in the material world at any particular moment providing we have Faith in that process.
I definitely agree with this.
He also makes the point that the choices the conscious Mind, the Ego makes based on its perceived situation in the material world, might not be the right ones for Spiritual Growth and the experiences we are here for.
I definitely agree with this as well.
So in summary he is saying - look after your inner Being, and your outer Being will automatically follow, and that is true as far as it goes.
But even this author, in his zealousness has still overlooked by far the most important factor for absolute success and all that implies - Realising Source, God Within - which is far and away more important than any of the other factors discussed, and our most sacred objective in a physical body.
If we can realise God within, and know, beyond doubt that we are God - an expression of God - and accordingly have access to all of the powers of God, without limitation, then we can truly have and achieve anything as God - not as some puny Earth bound Ego. The paradox is however that in reaching this state we also see the material world and all its dramas for the illusions and folly that they really are, and our priorities change to focus on Spiritual perfection - which will also ensure that we never want for anything in the material world.
In Love and Light,
Adrian.
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When the Power of Love overcomes the love of power, the World will know Peace -- Jimi Hendrix
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juliainkc
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2008, 13:21:22 » |
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Good Morning Kendar and Adrian and All,  Thank you Kendar for bringing this into the forums. I agree wholeheartedly with what Adrian is sharing here. Don’t make the mistake of desperately searching through your old beloved metaphysical books...
We cannot use tools from within a reality system to get out of that reality system... and that includes duality's beloved sine qua non - 'positive' thinking. There is much truth to this statement. The way I am sensing his statements here is that all these 'things' are already innate. Instead of relying on something in the physical realm you focus your feelings of intention within. These 'things' are reflections of the actual Light. You are the Light creating the reflection. It is in essence an emptying of one's 'mind' unlearning how to think according to the 'thoughts' of this reality and allowing the Authentic Self to Lead without any 'planned thinking or goal'. That's what creates an agenda. A something to be accomplished always reaching toward a goal. I sense there is no goal to attain so much as in Being here now and being 'taken' with the current. A white water rafting kind of experience. Not 'trying' to 'attain' anything. Being It Now. Shifting the Emphasis completely to weightlessness. This is easier said than done for most of us. I wonder what would happen if we focused on not thinking at all about anything. For myself it would keep me focused on maintaining the releasing or letting go and Letting God. Love In Divine Spirit, Julia
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kendar
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2008, 13:48:49 » |
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Thanks Adrian & Julia for your insights. I urge you to read the details under the heading;- Human Creation vs. Divine Creation Why our deepest heart’s desires don’t always come true… or so it seems If I understand him well, what I am getting is that we manifest our desires, using the Law of Attraction, if those desires are in alignment with our Highest Good i.e. our Mission & Purpose. If not, we do not manifest however long & whatever we do. Have I understood correctly? If so, would this explain why so many, including me, do not manifest their desires? And hence how can we truly discover what our Highes Good is? I would appreciate further clarification. Peace & Love to All kendar
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2008, 16:13:57 » |
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Hello Kendar,  If I understand him well, what I am getting is that we manifest our desires, using the Law of Attraction, if those desires are in alignment with our Highest Good i.e. our Mission & Purpose. If not, we do not manifest however long & whatever we do.
Have I understood correctly?
If so, would this explain why so many, including me, do not manifest their desires? And hence how can we truly discover what our Highes Good is?
I would appreciate further clarification.
Peace & Love to All
kendar Again, I can only share from my own understanding here. It is when our Hearts (feelings) are aligned with our desire to create, express outwardly (our word). The Energy is streaming through without any blocks. One Heart, One Mind, One Spirit- Aligned - One Energy One with the desire on all counts. There's no hidden 'doubts' underlying. That's what keeps things from manifesting. When things are not seeming to be 'showing up', it is just your Higher Self 'showing' you this so you can shift the degrees of your Energy into alignment. Some call it tests. It is just an indicator of where from the center your Energy and desire is focused on (What are you looking at kind of question, what do you see?) ... That's all. Bring it all together into center. Zero movement. Like holding oneself steady and aiming for the center. Sometimes it's a 'little to the left, little to the right, that's it!" You've got it. Kind of like that. This in itself comes from Being still, to All Other (aspects of ones) or an others thinking aka as...'Think for yourself', how's that!.' ~ Julia's expresssion That's how I 'listen' to my Higher Self. I listen to My 'I' or (1) ~ self and know my unified self to be a 'true' equation. For me, this equals 'Something stable to put my balance on. That's all ~ ... Be Your Authentic Self and Everyone in your illuminating will be in the same alignment because that is what your Energy is drawing in reflection to the Light. (Like Moths to Light) to Itself in alignment. You are being true to yourself Right Now. You are every moment of your life or living experience here... You get what you give = 1X1X... (Just Julia, thinking out loud here.) .~.~.~.~. or ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For me, this equation ='s KISS = Keep It Simple Sweetiepie!  Your Higher Purpose is already here now. It's just aligning your Heart Energy feelings to match what you say you are desiring. If not then it may be that it isn't what you truly desire or more Energy is in the Head and needs more Hearting if you will...  I hope this helps. Love to you always In Divine Spirit, Julia
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2008, 16:52:46 » |
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Greetings All,
Very simplistically viewed - I feel we are taught to work and work and work for what we need only give recognition to. Unfortunately in these times especially we are seeing this idea reinforced over and over again by many teachers. It remains up to us to ' feel ' for the truth in the midst of all the information.
WithIn Love
Darrell
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kendar
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2008, 08:12:58 » |
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Thanks Julia & Zenzunni7, You both seem to agree on one thing;- Feelings. Feel with the Heart. But a question for Julia;- When things are not seeming to be 'showing up', it is just your Higher Self 'showing' you this so you can shift the degrees of your Energy into alignment. Some call it tests. It is just an indicator of where from the center your Energy and desire is. That's all. Bring it all together into center. Zero movement. Like holding oneself steady and aiming for the center. Sometimes it's a 'little to the left, little to the right, that's it!" You've got it. Kind of like that. How do you do that? It’s all so confusing to me. And another question to whomever can help. What’s all this about 11:11, etc signals? Peace & Love to All. Kendar
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2008, 12:46:12 » |
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Hello Kendar,  Thank you for your kind words. You both seem to agree on one thing;- Feelings. Feel with the Heart. But a question for Julia;-
Quote When things are not seeming to be 'showing up', it is just your Higher Self 'showing' you this so you can shift the degrees of your Energy into alignment. Some call it tests. It is just an indicator of where from the center your Energy and desire is. That's all. Bring it all together into center. Zero movement. Like holding oneself steady and aiming for the center. Sometimes it's a 'little to the left, little to the right, that's it!" You've got it. Kind of like that.
How do you do that? It is about observing your thoughts. We tend to go on 'autopilot' alot. Getting caught up in the doing of something while all sorts of thoughts are streaming through. And I mean all sorts of thoughts. So if we are not 'paying attention' we may be missing the negative or doubtful ones because while they are in there giving their two cents, we are not stopping to ask where this thought came from or what it is based on? Pay attention to your thoughts by taking yourself off autopilot. Be aware of what is passing through. This takes discipline. Is this thought energizing and lifting my energy or dragging my energy down by distracting me into mind circles on how to figure out or fix something? Simply put, is this Fear based or Love based thinking going on here. You can only recognize this when you are paying attention (focused) or centered. The going left and right is when the mind is well running all over the place. It's like driving a car. Stay in the lane or you'll cross over or drive on the shoulder. I hope this helps. InJoy this day Kendar, Love In Divine Spirit, Julia
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kendar
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 09:55:07 » |
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Hi Julia, I have taken quite a bit of time to, not only digest your points, but also feel the emotions for sometime. Pay attention to your thoughts by taking yourself off autopilot. Be aware of what is passing through. This takes discipline. Is this thought energizing and lifting my energy or dragging my energy down by distracting me into mind circles on how to figure out or fix something? I have discovered the following;- 1.Yes. Both negative and positive thoughts result in their respective emotions. 2.However, I get negative emotions even though I have not had negative thoughts. Why? By the way, this is quite often. When there is negativity cropping up every so often, what do you do to kill it for good? Love you All. Kendar
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 13:10:26 » |
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Greetings Kendar,
In my opinion I don't think you can kill negative emotions forever. Those feelings we get periodically for no apparent reason may not be sourced in you. I get them as well, sometimes it is emotion stemming from my connection to my children, feeling what they may be, even just walking about you can ' catch ' another's negative e-motion ( energy in motion ) Our e-motions serve us in all feelings of them. Negative remind me to move back to my true Self. That I have strayed from the course I desire the most. Like driving and feeling the soft shoulder under your tire to remind you that you have strayed off the road. Our feelings require a full embrace of ourselves. Sometimes it is advising me to be more aware of my surroundings, of danger around the corner perhaps. Trying to stuff a negative emotion with a positive thought is not always a healthy approach to the sensation we are feeling.
I find it best to embrace the feeling and allow the source to reveal itself. As I say, we often overlook the influences of others e-motions in our environment and their effect on our sensory fields. As an intuitive father, I learned to discipline my senses to constantly be scanning the kids to know what they were feeling, and this also honed the ability to discern one form the other, including myself. I also became much more aware of my own emanation, to keep my negativity from their environment as well.This is not a lengthy process, it just takes a few times of recognition and discernment to set the desired effects.
You seem to me to a very grounded and well established individual in these arts Kendar, and things will come to you as they need to. We often see ourselves as spiritual people as ones that never feel negative, no anger or impatience, always positive as we define being positive, often unrealistically. Self feels all in its environment and adjusts accordingly. Balance isn't so much a thing of equal parts in equal measurement, but the ability to be thrown onto any surface and landing erect and being balanced in the instant of landing - hitting the ground running - as they say.
WithIN Love Darrell
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 13:30:40 » |
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Hello Again Kendar and Darrell and All ~
Darrell, wonderfully stated. Thank you and yes I agree.
I call it riding the emotional rhythmic waves. For myself, while we do use words to describe what it is we are feeling, in essence, by removing the labels of negative and positive I find I am having or experiencing 'an emotion'.
This allows me to allow it to rise, observe myself in the experiencing of it, letting it run its course and then off onto another experience or emotion. I find that this way, they don't keep repeating as much or to the same degree that it was felt or experienced in the first course or run.
The onion peels back layer after layer. We really do have alot of emotions buried deep within from conditioning of 'I'll give you something to cry about, or there's no reason to feel like this or no that's not how you are feeling" and on it goes...
It takes practicing walking in our own shoes and allowing the stored emotions to rise up and be felt and released. They will go Kendar, they will. New emotions are always rising from within and once the well is cleaned out, it's easier to keep the well clear and flowing smoothly.
Again, relax, you are right where you are meant to be in this moment. Trust the experience of your present life, it is leading you as it always has.
I hope this encourages and empowers you to be your true childlike self, InJoy Being Kendar,
Love to you and All ~
Julia
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