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Leslie
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« on: July 21, 2008, 10:43:21 »


In the 'Science of Being in Twenty Seven Lessons', the Baron Eugene Fersen says the following:

"Disease and ill health, therefore, instead of being due exclusively
to destructive physical organisms, as was formerly thought, have
their source really in the Mind of the individual. Germs themselves
are simply the material manifestations of negative influences which
originate in Mind. A healthy Body is the accurate expression, the
projection within the range of our perception, of clean and
harmonious vibrations. A sick Body is the equally accurate
expression of the disharmonious thoughts and emotions, such as
Fear, Worry, Hatred, Jealousy, Envy, etc., which lodge in our
mental spring and pour their pollution into the harmonious stream
of vibrations emanating from it."

If this is true, how do we apply this theory to children with life threatening illnesses. Surely a three year old child who is battling cancer, isn't full of hatred and jealousy. In fact, many of these kids are notorious for staying positive and upbeat through their struggle.

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2008, 15:16:52 »

I'm concerned that there isn't a response to my question.

I truly want to educate others on this new reality I am experiencing but there are some questions that I just don't have the answers to. My question wasn't intending to try to prove that the lesson isn't true, I just need someone to help me understand how to relate this idea to children with life-threatening illnesses. This is a specific question that has come up a couple of times so any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2008, 15:43:17 »

Dear Leslie,

Please forgive the lack of response.
I will take a shot here from the best of my ability.
I agree, children are not full of hate. They are however full of trust. Trust that what adults around them tell them is the truth. I noticed as a parent that lot of my ' moods ' were contagious to the children also. I had five so it could spread quickly if I was in a bad mood.
I feel that many children in hospitals are reflecting their parents deepest fears for them. As a I child who's parents are always in fear they will be abducted, the chances increase dramatically they will be.
In hospitals , children know they are sick and the staff is always reaffirming it to them, with many conversations being out ear shot to them, but in view, increasing the fear in the child. Their positive attitudes and smiles often mask their own concern, but haven't the ability to express it.

I know this may sound simplistic for such a deep subject, but the truth is parents and children are connected in a very special way, and they feel each others feelings, even if recognition isn't spoken of, with the child being the more aware.
The child knows the truth of our true feelings, regardless of what our mouths may be stating, and they stop listening when the mouth and their sense are out of alignment.

It is my belief that miraculous cures in children come from miraculous changes in the parents emotions of the situation - even when it seems totally impossible to do facing the possible death of a child.

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2008, 16:41:46 »

Thanks for your response Darrell. When talking about this with others, I used some of the same reasoning as you--however probably not as eloquent.

Thanks again!
Leslie
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2008, 19:30:13 »

Dear Leslie,

Please forgive my lack of response to your excellent questions. For some reason I was not aware of your post.


In the 'Science of Being in Twenty Seven Lessons', the Baron Eugene Fersen says the following:

"Disease and ill health, therefore, instead of being due exclusively
to destructive physical organisms, as was formerly thought, have
their source really in the Mind of the individual. Germs themselves
are simply the material manifestations of negative influences which
originate in Mind. A healthy Body is the accurate expression, the
projection within the range of our perception, of clean and
harmonious vibrations. A sick Body is the equally accurate
expression of the disharmonious thoughts and emotions, such as
Fear, Worry, Hatred, Jealousy, Envy, etc., which lodge in our
mental spring and pour their pollution into the harmonious stream
of vibrations emanating from it."

If this is true, how do we apply this theory to children with life threatening illnesses. Surely a three year old child who is battling cancer, isn't full of hatred and jealousy. In fact, many of these kids are notorious for staying positive and upbeat through their struggle.

Leslie

The Baron Eugene Fersen is extremely wise as well as correct.

Bacteria, viruses etc as well as cellular malfunctions are simply the material instruments of manifestation of issues that originate from non-physical sources under normal circumstances, i.e in adults.

In children however there are other potential factors. Humans, in general, incarnate to experience the situation over which they need to prevail in order for their Higher Self to learn valuable lessons, and gain valuable experience.

I feel sure that cases of cancer, including brain tumours in children also fall in to this catagory.

The only reason children succumb to these conditions is due to their experience at the time. Children with cancers, tumours etc are admitted to childrens wards of hospitals, and are told what is "wrong" with them and what to expect during the treatment. They are told that they will be injected with chemicals that will make them sick and hair fall out for example. This causes the child to associate with these expectations and experiences as well as to come to believe that they are seriously or terminally ill.

The truth is  - children are by far the easiest to heal, because they have no preconceived ideas about "terminal illnesses", "cancers", "tumours" etc.

Plain and simple - if a child believes that they are healthy and normal, and that their ailment does not exist, then they will be healed as if their ailment did not exist.

The same applies to adults of course, but adults have much more established ideas about the consequences of cancer and similar ailments.

One of my greatest desires is to dedicate my life to healing sick children, or rather helping children to heal themselves, but this is very difficult when they are placed in a situation, i.e. a hospital where their experience tells them otherwise. Even if we were to offer our services we would encounter considerable resistance from "doctors" and "consultants" who consider us to be "weird" or "mentally derranged" or "eccentric" in some way, simply bevause we do not conform to their narrow framework of "normality".

I know, beyond doubt, that their is not an ailment in existence that children cannot be healed of, or rather they cannot heal themselves of.

All it requires is to instill in the child that they are now in perfect health and so it shall be. Children, uncorrupted by the "human paradox" will accept this unconditionally, whereas adults will not, due to the programming of a lifetime.

Children cannot be healed of cancer, tumours etc, by being pumped full of chemicals - but rather only by knowing that they are already perfect.
Remaining positive and upbeat alone is not enough - they need to know, beyond doubt, that they are already healed and in perfect health.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.




















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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2008, 21:28:59 »

Dear Leslie and Adrian,

Beautifully said Adrian.
We all seem to share a passion for the same vocation in our lives. Children.I approached it from the more adults that were enlightened, the fewer children were in danger. But Adrian, you are quite correct, children in hospitals are in as much danger for their lives as if on the streets.
Medicines absolute refusal to change its tactics kills more children than any disease, because Mr. Fersen was right on the money as Adrian said.

Yet it is changing. Many people read these posts, and maybe only a handful interact, but all leave here changed. So our children are in good hands.

WithIN Love,
Darrell
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 08:23:57 »

Hi Leslie and All,

I am about to start my training to become a Homeopath, my aim upon qualification to practice is to specialise in children's health.  The Homeopathic view is that everyone has a 'Vital force' and that illness occurs when the 'vital Energy or Force' is somehow compromised, we are made up of body, spirit and mind and it can be any of these areas that is out of balance that could lead to illness of any kind with children it could even be the effects/experiences occurred in the womb, the negativity around them effecting their spiritual wellbeing, immunisations or chemicals exposed to etc not necessarily the thoughts of the child per se.  Homeopathy works at its best in terminal cases and again within children.

Hope that makes some sense . . .

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 08:57:28 »

Dear Tessa,

SO good to see you here.

Yes. it makes perfect sense. My daughter is a homeopathic nurse. It has changed her views completely and her daughters are treated for whatever ailment they have in this manner with great success.
Prior to her shift in attitude, her girls were sick often, with the usual childhood ailments, and being taken taken to the doctor and given the usual antibiotics which only prolonged their illness and left them with compromised immune systems.

Unfortunately insurances do not cover this treatment and the medical community still considers it to be ' witchcraft ' and will not take it seriously. But it is the most effective way I have witnessed with children so far.
I believe we take these little pills and it tells our mind - this works, and it does.
But that is another discussion. I am happy that you have chosen this field, and especially focused on our little God-seeds.

WithIn Love

Darrell
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 09:16:33 »

thanks Darrell, one of my main aims is to improve awareness of the benefits of Homeopathy and to make it more accessable to all, as I am amazed that people have heard about it but actually know very little about it, it will take an awful lot to shift current thinking and approach to illness, health and welbeing but I am a determined individual so if anyone can make waves in this area I'm sure I can wink I just have to be patient and not try to change the world overnight or at least until I'm qualified!!

I have just been on a family holiday and whilst packing all of the usual antihistamines, headaches tablets, sickness tablets etc smiled to myself as I am sure that this time next year my first aid kit will be completely different and I am so looking forward to that!! I am very reluctant to give my children any kind of medication now and even cancelled my child's MMR (measles, mumps and Rubella) immunisation due to the level of toxins that exist in them, we do not know what effect these have on our children and would never equate receiving these to contracting cancer etc although in reality could be a contributing factor and the fact that we give these to our children for relatively mild diseases tat are only life threatening to an extreme few (and usually those already suffering from illness or living in poor conditions) amazes me.

So many things in our environment effect our little ones, I recall a posting from Adrian on one of Melody's topics about fluoridation drinking water and the negative effects it has.

It is SO important for us all to be looking for a simpler, cleaner, safer and more natural environment for a children to grow up in

Great discussion tho

Tessa
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 12:37:16 »

Good Day  Tessa and All, smiley

It is wonderful to see you here again Tessa. I am delighted that you are pursuing your Heart's leading.

I know without a doubt, that the first opportunity you are given, to share this loving energy with 'another child' (of 'any age') outside your immediate influence, the foundation will be deeply sensed and profoundly impacted on every detail of the experience, and I know you will recognize in this moment that you are sharing your loving nature through the expression of homeopathic 'medicine'. Your vehicle.

I have found that when I am around children who 'feel out of sorts' they have been willing to receive open arms of acceptance and love radiating from the channel. You'll see it in their eyes and feel it in their desire to touch you with embrace or having you hold them. And in that moment of connection there is no difference of any kind. It's just love.

I sense this is your purpose.

I appreciate you and your sharing. Thank you for being willing to make a difference in the lives of others, you are unfolding InJoy a depth of life experience that illudes so many.


Love to you WithIn Divine Spirit, Your Sister,


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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 15:47:27 »

Greetings All,

An new day has begun ~
In every town, village, - every country and every time now there is at least one being observed doing things differently. One that is talked about by others and and wondered about. They are seen everywhere, smiling even in the rainy days, the children flock to them, the animals walk behind them, and the flowers grow a little taller in their yard.
They never seem to be sick, you cannot get a ' handle ' on their age, and wonder why they seem so alive. They seem to live well, but no-one really knows what they do for a living. Hmmm, maybe the IRS needs be alerted.

These are the ones like yourselves here. The ones the children will ask the real questions of, confide their deepest fears to, and rely on real healing if they be in need of it.
They know you followed your heart to where you are and who you are.
 Children thrive in this energy, their need for healing disappears and health abounds in them.
There are many factors involved with terminally ill children, as stated. Yet it only takes one persons unswerving determination to see that child well again to make it reality. To walk into that room and step past all those factors and the ' doctors orders ' to energize that child profoundly enough to make them walk out of there.

Children understand - this is not a miracle, this is the natural order of Human Beings.

WithIN Love

Darrell





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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 03:00:46 »

you always say things so beautifully  smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 08:06:55 »

Dear Tessa,

Darrell, Julia and others on the forum do indeed speak most beautifully, and I feel blessed that they are here as well as everyone else who is contributing so much, so well, and making the forum what it is, and indeed so unique.

Some people speak what they feel and know from a much deeper, or more correctly inner state of Being, and their words are immediately recognisable for what they are.

I also believe that the level of discussions on these forums is such that they cause participants to contribute from a Higher, or Inner state of Consciousnes, and everyone participating will be surely vibrate to the same level of Energy which is a wonderful thing.

I wish more people would join us here, but others will be "led" here when the time is right.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 10:30:45 »

Greetings All ~

Yeah - What he said !!! LOL.
Thank you Adrian, we all thank you for this forum, and the courage to write what is in your heart and to do so with authority and determination.
I saw in another thread your asked of your research and its authenticity. Few understand that such things are just apart of us and haunt us until we write them.
When I wrote my book " Beyond The Moment " it haunted me for a year or more, it would not leave me alone. The first chapter was to be a stand alone story, but once I began to write, I could not stop. Our life and how we chose to live it was our research, and those that appeared in it and shared their stories. We knew their heart, and we knew if we were being told truth, when lied to we KNOW the truth, we just make a choice to listen or not.

Illness is self created, or in the case of children, taught I feel. In our culture we explain alot how diseases are passed, but not how healing is. Not how healing self occurs.
My mother was always ill - one thing or another, high blood pressure, headaches, she was always focused on her illness. It kept her the center of attention and relieved her of life's demands, and us - her children servants to her. It is a dangerous game to play - this illness one, as we will manifest it to be certain, as she did.
She was not a child, yet in many ways she was. Life today makes maturity optional, regardless of age.
When she was in her early forty's I got a call at the base I was stationed at, she had suffered a stroke, minor one behind her right eye. I flew in that night and all the way there thought about her and my life with her.
When I arrived at her room, there was usual entourage of family in the room, friends in the waiting room. I walked in and kissed her on the forehead. 
When we follow what is really in our heart, we say what is needed to be said, when we have the courage to rock the boat, we do and say what will actually help.

I then turned to everyone in the room and said " Get out ! I want to talk to my mother alone." They were stunned and angry, but left us alone.
I turned to my mother and looked at her from the end of the bed.
" How are you? " I asked her.
She began to talk in the familiar ' sickly ' voice. I raised my hand and stopped her.

" I am going to say what I need to say here, then I am leaving and going back to the base today. I am not going to play this game with you anymore, it dominated my childhood and now is seeking to do the same to my adult life.
There is NO reason for you to be here, NONE. You created this yourself and this is the consequence for that action and those thoughts. Just as you created so many others all your life. Illness is how you control people, get them to do your bidding and to stay the spoiled child you have always been, the one that beat me every time you weren't happy with your life and for the anger my father left in you - I AM NOT HIM WOMAN.
Everyone is downstairs waiting, as they have so often with you. All here are focused on you, another very familiar scenario. Your 40, and having a stroke at this age is ludicrous. Simply unacceptable. You are a strong woman with a mind of steel, I should know I have battled with it all my life.
But know this - I won't aid in this show anymore, I won't sympathize with it and enable it. I love you, so do not ask me to watch this anymore. You can lay there and die, or you can stop this shit and go home and for once be responsible for your own happiness. Stop making my stepfather and the family responsible for you.
Tell your fucking doctors to get you off all those medications and to heal you or go to hell and take this hospital with them.
But know this, they won't heal you, because only you can do that. They are pill pushers for the drug whores, and you are their guinea pig, the lab rat they will bury if the drugs don't work, and they won't.
Maker up your mind - lay there and die, let them kill you, or get up and go home and be alive. I do love you, and what I just said is your proof. But your done beating me, with your fists and these actions. If you desire control so deeply, then take control of your own life, I am, right here - right now. "

I walked over to her and kissed her again and left and went back to my life. Two days later my sister called to tell me she had checked herself out the following day against her doctors orders, and seemed to be fine. She went on that year to get her real estate license and became very successful on her own.
Her blood pressure still plagued her though, she died at 67 after being switched to a new medication while packing for a vacation.

Yeah - its like that.

WithIn Love

Darrell






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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2008, 07:35:01 »

Dear Darrell,

Thank you very much for sharing this with us.

I think the biggest tragedy regarding sick children is that children are by far the easiest humans to heal, because they possess, in abundance, the one Divine quality required to restore perfect health - Faith.

It is easy to tell a child, especially one that trusts you completely, that they are now in perfect health, and so it will be by Divine Principle.

As it is, children are told by doctors and consultants that they are seriously ill, or worse, terminally ill, and equally the child will accept it with perfect faith, and the outcome will be inevitable and sad.

In reality of course, few parents will place their trust in a person who claimed to be able to heal their child by such means.

Older children and adults are more difficult to heal, because as they grow older they become more cynical. The only times older people are healed though Faith is when they have so much Faith that a particular action, place or person will heal them, that it comes to pass.

Lourdes is a classic example.

Another example I read about recently is some RC monk who has healed numerous people by writing a prayer in Latin, tiny writing on a piece of paper the size of a postage stamp, which he then makes in to a tiny ball the size of a tablet which is then swallowed by the person seeking healing.

The Faith of being healed by swallowing one of these prayers in Latin, written by the monk who is considered to be a servant of God is so great that the healing takes place.

In reality of course the person has been healed by their own Faith, as is the case in Faith in the power of the water at Lourdes and other such shrines.

The secret therefore of self-healing, and indeed manifesting and experiencing absolutely anything conceivable, is to develop absolute Faith of our own infinite inner powers of creation, born out of the realisation of Source, God within.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.


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