marwa
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« on: August 16, 2007, 18:11:40 » |
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Peace be upon all who seek the Truth,
Actually this should have been posted as a reply for Heather’s topic “So what is it?” I saw it would be more useful if it is posted as a separate topic.
Like many people, I also fear the Day of Judgment, but to be honest my deep love to God invaded by subconscious mind. For me, I do not worship God because of fearing Him, nor do I worship him because I am looking for “The Paradise” at the end.
Tell me, I want to know, what else a person might ask from God, if God has granted him with love. Personally, I can not see anything that would make me more comfortable than that sense of love that I feel towards God. What a gift!!! I am writing these words, so that they remain as a testimony and confirmation of my love to God. Also, all readers will be witnesses of my love to God so that if it happens that I might go to hell, at that moment I will tell my Lord that I written one day some words showing love to You, and I have witnesses too, So are you going to send me to hell, although I love You?
I am a muslim for those who don’t know, and may be the only muslim amongst all members. And I do not blame you if you got loads of bad thoughts in your minds about Islam, muslims and………..etc. Because if I was in your position, I would definitely think as you people think and might ask “What kind of savages these so called muslims are? Do not they have any sense of humanity? I doubt whether they are humans or even animals, how come they kill each other and others in these terrible ways? What kind of religion they follow and what kind of God they worship?
Anyway, I think I made you lost with what I wrote.
Here are some verses from the Holy Quran and some sacred hadiths and sayings of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) of the mercy of God of whom I worship
1) Some of Prophet Muhammad’s sayings on the mercy of God
“God has one hundred parts of mercy, of which He sent down one between the jinn, mankind, the animals and the insects, by means of which they are compassionate and merciful to one another, and by means of which wild animals are kind to their offspring. And God has kept back ninety-nine parts of mercy with which to be merciful to His slaves of the Day of Resurrection.” Verily, Satan has said, ‘By Your Honor and Grandeur, O Allah, my temptations will not depart from your servants as long as their souls are in their bodies.’ And the Lord said, ‘By My Honor and My Grandeur, never will I cease forgiving those who ask My forgiveness.’ Some prisoners were brought to Prophet Mohammed, and there was a woman among the prisoners who was searching (for her child). When she found her child she embraced him and put him to her breast. Then The Prophet said to his companions, do you think that this woman would throw her child in the fire? They said, No, by Allah (God), not if she is able not to. Then The Prophet said, Allah (God) is more merciful to His slaves than this woman is to her child.
“Among those who came before you was a man who killed 99 people. He then asked to be guided to the most prolific worshipper from the inhabitants of the earth, and he was directed to a monk. He went to him and told him that he had killed 99 people, and he asked whether it was possible for him to repent. The monk said, ‘No.’ The man killed him, thus making him the 100th victim. He then asked to be directed to the most knowledgeable of the Earth’s inhabitants, and he was guided to a scholar. He went to him and told him that he had killed 100 people, and he asked whether it was possible for him to repent. The scholar said, ‘Yes, and who will stand between you and repentance. Go to such and such land, for in it dwell a people who worship Allah(God), so go and worship Allah(God) with them. And do not return to your land, for it is indeed a land of evil.’ He left, and when he reached the halfway point of his journey, he died. The angels of Mercy and the angels of Punishment disputed with one another [in regard to his case]. The angels of Mercy said, ‘He came to us repentant, advancing with his heart towards Allah(God).’ The angels of Punishment said, ‘Indeed, he never performed any good deeds.’ Then an angel came in the form of a human being, and both groups of angels asked him to be the judge between them. He said, ‘Measure the distance between the two lands. Whichever land he is closer to is the land that he is closer to [in terms of being of its people]. They then measured the distance and found that he was closer to the land that he was heading towards, and so it was the angels of Mercy who then took his soul.”
'When Allah (God) completed the creation, He wrote in His Book which is with Him on His Throne, 'My Mercy overpowers My Anger.'
2) Sacred Hadiths (Sayings) which were inspired by God to the Prophet:
“I am as My servant thinks I am. I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assemble better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a fathom's length. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him at speed.”
“The Great and the Glorious Lord said (to angels): Whenever My bondsman intends to commit an evil, do not record it against him, but if he actually commits it, write it as one evil, and when he intends to do good but does not do it, take it down as one act of goodness, but if he does it, write down ten good deeds (in his record).”
“O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great at it.”
“O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another.”
"A servant [of Allah's] committed a sin and said: O Allah (God), forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for sins. Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you."
“A man said: By Allah (God), Allah (God) will not forgive So-and-so. At this Allah (God) the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified your [own good] deeds.(1) (or as he said [it])’.
‘Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him’.
3) Some verses showing God’s Mercy:
SAY: "My servants who have acted extravagantly against themselves still do not despair of God's mercy. God forgives all offences; He is the Forgiving, the Merciful. (39:53) Quran" "If any one does evil or wrongs his own soul but afterwards seeks God's forgiveness, he will find God Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. (4:110) "If any does good, the reward to him is better than his deed; but if any does evil, the doers of evil are only punished (to the extent) of their deeds. (The Noble Quran, 28:84)" "The Lord of the heavens and the earth, and all between,- Exalted in Might, able to enforce His Will, forgiving again and again. (The Noble Quran, 38:66)"
At last I say that the Lord of the worlds is very merciful, and he wants all to go to Paradise. But we have also to put some effort and purify our souls and ask for his guidance.
Ja'far Sadiq(one of the grand children of the prophet) has said: "There are three categories of the worshippers: 'Those who worship Allah out of fear; their worship is that of the slaves. Those who worship Allah for the sake of a reward; their worship is that of the wage-earners. Those who worship Allah out of love and earnestness; their worship is that of the freeman. This last is the best form of worship." (Biharul Anwar, vol. V, p. 208).
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 22:15:57 » |
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Hello Marwa,
Throughout human history all sort of people killed each other. This type of unfortunate behavior is not reserved to the Arabic world.
You are very much interested in spiritual scriptures, and in various stories – episodes in it. One can learn a lot through studying religious texts, and can become a much better, and a very loving person. Your Love for God is admirable!
Yet there might come a point when one realizes that our spiritual existence can reach far above and beyond religious scriptures.
Just think of the fact that all of us, human beings, are an undivided part of a vibrant cosmic energy! Being that energy, we are all connected to each other and are one with all the humanity and with everything that exists in the Universe, and even beyond the Universe (if there is such a thing). If you read Adrian's OUR ULTIMATE REALITY, he explains this very well in his book.
A concept of “Hell” exists in human minds. If you look at the all encompassing Quantum field, the vast cosmic energy field of which we are a part, there is no place called “Hell”.
We came to this world with a purpose to create something on Earth. In my opinion, remembering that purpose and starting to spend one's energy to bringing it to life is a noble preoccupation that can bypass the mere study of religious texts. This is how one finds the true unity with God!
God is not to be feared. He is inside us, a part of us. Let him guide you to fulfill your task, your mission on Earth, for which you came here at this time.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 13:05:32 » |
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Hi melody,
Thank you for your reply.
What you mentioned about "Hell" seems close to what I believe in. Actually I believe that our planet will be absorbed by one of the black holes, and after that we will be in a completely different world. And those who purified their souls will be very comfortable there, and those who didnot purify their souls will feel so much pain, since that world is not adequate for them. I do not really know whether it is right or not.
I like to talk to people according to their level of knowledge, and understanding. Thats why I mentioned "Hell" as a place, although I have a different opinion on it, but the notion that the hell is a place is understood by all, from different religions.
May also God lighten for you the right path.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 14:40:56 » |
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Hello Marwa,
I believe if you express your belives at your level of understanding, and if your understanding happens to be at a higher level than that of people you are talking to, this would eventually allow those people to raise their consciousness to the higher level of understanding of reality and spirituality.
It is better to raise people's level of consciousness, than come down to their level.
Be true to yourself!
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 15:09:05 » |
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Hi Melody,
First I am not here to say I have more knowledge than anyone else in this website. God knows how insignificant knowledge do I have.
Yes, a person should help others to raise their level of consciousness, if it happens that he knows more than them.
But this person should first discover how much those people know about the subject he is talking about. Sometimes the souls are not prepared to understand what you say, and you might confuse them more than benefit them. A person should know at what level of knowledge his readers or audience are, come down to their level, and step by step he tries gradually to raise their level of consciousness to his level.
There were times when my teacher used to talk to me about things that were way ahead than what I can understand at that age, and when he realized that, he told me there will be a time when you will understand what I mean. And at some occasions he used to stop talking if he realizes that it confused the students. And step-by-step I come to understand, if not all what he said, but at least something. For everything there is a time.
What I wanted to emphasis from the topic “The God I know” is THE MERCY of GOD, beyond what we can imagine, I wanted to focus people to that reality, and expressing what I believe about “Hell” at that topic and at that time would be totally inappropriate and would not be more important.
And whether “Hell” exists or not as a place, or whether we will go into another realm at the end or not (where every one will be able to live there according to the purity of his soul) was not the message I wanted to send to the readers’ minds at that time. The issue of “Hell” could be discussed at a different topic in another time, and a person cannot discuss two subjects at the same time, unless if he writes for the sake of just writing.
I think this way of providing knowledge to students at schools is also used. A good teacher would make to his students a small test at the beginning of the year, to know what are their weak points and strong ones. And if it comes that there are students who understand and able to tackle difficult questions faster than others then he will deal with each group according to their level of understanding.
But if he directly explains the material from his high level of understanding, which is very high for both the groups, then the students will not gain anything but more confusion, although the teacher is saying the truth. But he says the truth from his level of understanding and not theirs.
And because you mentioned the issue about “Hell”, I then expressed my beliefs towards this “Hell”(which can be wrong). And in my opinion whether “Hell” was a place or not is not that important, the more important is what we all know that some will feel pain while others will not, whether that will be in another world or not. That’s why I expressed “Hell” as a place in the topic, which is familiar to all people.I believe that it is more more valuable to people to know first their God, and then discuss about this "Hell". Since they wont fear Him(the Almighty) but they will love Him, and after that the issue of that "Hell" will not be that important for them.
“Be true to yourself” Thanks you for this advice; it’s a good one. I will be always happy to hear from you your thoughts.
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 15:48:39 » |
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Hello Marwa, There is only one thing I would like to say at this time. We do not really teach each other at this forum. We only express our sincere opinions, or offer suggestions if somebody asks a question, asks for information or for an advice.
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 22:13:40 » |
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Dear Melody,
It would be really my pleasure if you can teach something valuable through this forum. I really do not mean to make myself as a teacher in this forum. I am just saying what I feel is right and it can be wrong. And if you tell my negative points, I would be very thankful to you. You mentioned we are all one, so I believe I should learn from you, and if you see that there is something useful in what I say,you can take it. You have the freedom. Kabeel (son of Prophet Adam PBUH) learnt who to make a grave from a bird. For me I do not resist to take the truth from any person, or nature.
I hope you understand me
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 06:07:05 » |
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Hello Marwa, It is great that you have an open mind and would like to learn new things!  We all learn from this forum by osmosis, by reading other people's opinions, suggestions, and by checking out information they provide. We just do not "preach" to each other. And each of us expresses opinions at his (or hers) level of understanding of things. I invite you to read through many posts at this forum, and also to read Adrian's OUR ULTIMATE REALITY book. You will most certainly learn a lot!
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2007, 07:48:43 » |
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Dear Marwa,
I read your conversations with Melody..
I'm trying to understand you..Yes, you are seaching.. but trying to realize everything with only the help of QURAN.. If we watch around from the first floor ,our looking sight is very limited..but if we decide to climb the steps..our panoramic vision changes step by step..If we want to see,watch and realize what is going on around us..We have to climb the steps without FEAR OF HİGHNESS..because our minds create all the fears..indeed, there is nothing to afraid..It's our choice ..how high we want to climb..If we wish ,we can reach an unlimited vision..If we put no limits to ourselves, the life turns a joyful journey..
I'm living in a islamic country..but I'm thinking the religions are old energies..They had no mission at all..because they served to separete people ..not connect ...But we have to realize ,we are ONE ..now on..So I don't want ,to be in any of religion arguments..The prophets were great teachers ,as many of the other teachers..and channelers..
I'm sending ,the article of Kryon..it was in May I think,spoken to Russian people..I listen and read most of them..but my intuitions,feelings-emotions of me , but the more my experiences lead me in my journey of life..Perhaps,it may be a different looking sight..to your question 'The God I Know' ..with my loves..
ONENESS p.s:Since, it's long... I've to send in 2 parts..
I am Kryon of Magnetic Service. There are those here who know the entourage who was here yesterday, indeed, has not gone. It felt blessed when you came in the room, didn’t it? Perhaps even now there is a greatest awareness of what is happening now than there was yesterday.
Perhaps you have allowed yourself to be surrounded with angelic entities that are in love with you? For some of you, it is a stretch of the imagination to think that you would walk with angels. Some will say, "It sounds a little too sweet for me, Kryon." And maybe that’s because you do not understand what an angel is. What about a large, powerful creature that stands between you and fear, that slays the image you have of your enemy? What about a powerful entity that clears the way for your path, arranges synchronicities in your life or gives you peace? Is that a little too sweet for you? Would you accept that?
Oh, dear ones, if you only knew who God is! Maybe this is the time to let you know, for I’ve asked my partner to present core information for his first visit in this great land, and now I am going to do the same. It is core information that will resound from this point forward in this classic language [Russian] whose lineage spans thousands of years. It is a message that is constructed so that they would hear it and not be afraid of it. It is a message that states that God is bigger than you think.
"You mean, Kryon, you’re going to actually tell us who God is?" Yes, I’m going to do that. I’m going to organize it, for my partner loves linearity. So this is for him: I’m going to present 11 points in honor of those who are here. I’ll present three about who God is; three about the ways of God, and four about the misunderstandings of God. Then I’ll present one that is what God wants of you. Now, this really makes my partner nervous, because now he thinks he has to keep track of all 11. Don’t worry, I’ll do it for you, my partner.
Who Is God?
Number one: Is God even definable? It is the energy that represents love. It is a giant word that means so much to so many. Can you handle the splendor of it? Can you hear the music of it or see the colors of it? Can you see the gold? It’s beautiful! When you’re on the other side of the veil, dear ones, all frequencies are available to you. An infinite storehouse of frequencies are there, where sound turns into light and they exist together, not separated by your Human senses. You’ve never seen or heard anything like it on Earth. How can I define that? When light and sound together vibrate so high they actually create harmonies together. There’s nothing more beautiful than when the Human hears and sees us sing his name in light, for that is the point when the Human comes home. How do I describe that?
God is infinite. God is the creative, cosmic intelligence of the Universe. God is the core love of all things. God is infinite in its parts, yet specific in its identity. If there’s one piece of God missing, then God does not exist… and many of the pieces are here.
Would it be too grand if I told you that if you ceased to exist, God would also? I know your name. I’ve sung it in light, and I’ll do it again when you return from this journey. God is the intelligent, creative source of the Universe, and you were here when the earth was placed (created) because you’re a piece of God, like me. You are just like Kryon and you sing my name, also, for I am your sister, your brother. Indeed, we sat together as the earth was formed. Is that a little too grand for you? Do you question this? Oh, go back and intuitively pull this out of your consciousness and you will feel it is true, old soul. That’s number one, that you are a piece of the creative force of the Universe, and a part of everything that is. It may not feel like it to you, but this is what is truly hidden from the Human.
Number two: God is a partnership, not a singular entity. You may pray to God or you might have a painting of God. Like any Human, you think God is singular; however, it is not. God is spectacular in numbers, like a legion of light, yet it’s a partner to you. Some wish to ask, "Well, if God is my partner, then what am I doing on Earth?" Oh, dear one, the answer is so obvious! You’re here only for a little while and you’re working a puzzle that you have agreed to do. The core of the puzzle is this: Can you discover who you are while you’re here? Because if you can, it changes the reality of the planet.
You see, what happens to the earth is part of a solution that is needed for the Universe. It’s a solution only solvable with free choice of Humans who do not know they’re divine. That’s who you are. You’re a partner with the cosmos, in duality, in the dark.
Some have said, "Well, Kryon, I don’t share the feeling I’m a partner with the cosmos." Now that’s the puzzle, isn’t it? Unbelief! Many of those who sit in this room will tell you differently, for they feel the love wash even as I speak now. They see the colors, even as I speak now, around me. And they feel the partnership with the creator of the Universe. They absolutely know it flows in their veins. It’s part of their DNA... a spectacular partnership.
Number three: God is a very large collection of universal entities whose energy looks just like you. There is mastery in your DNA. You have the same tools that the greatest masters of the planet had. Did you know that? Go back and look at them. Who is your favorite master of history? Remember that they were Human!
Some might say, "No. They were beyond Human. One was even the son of God." Indeed, and didn’t he tell you that you were, too? Didn’t he try and tell you how powerful you were? They all were just Humans who had activated all the tools in their spiritual toolbox… the same one you have now. That’s who they were. Now what about you? You may say, "I can’t do that. I could never be a master, for it’s beyond me." Well, now that is your free choice, is it not? So that’s what we speak of, as we do so often. The Human decides on his own who he is and how grand he wishes to be. This is the puzzle before you, that you have the ability to discover your part in the cosmos… or not.
I’ve taken three short points to describe God. Each one of them included you. If that’s all you understand tonight, then understand this: You are part of God. There’s more in this event than you think. There’s more going on in the room than you think, and those see-ers and those healers in this room know it. They’re starting to feel a shift and a change right here in this audience. What if this was the night it happened? What if this was the night when things change inside you? Would you allow it? That’s the free choice, isn’t it? Some may go from this place changed, and some may not. Some may come so very close, to have sat here and felt the energy but instead hardened their hearts - that’s when angels cry, but this is Human free choice. We’ll discuss that in a moment.
The Way God Works
There are three points here, and they may sound familiar, as though you have heard them before. But you need to hear them again.
Number four: All of the miracles of this planet that you know about that affect humanity have been created by Human Beings. Every one! But you might say, "Yes, but when I read about the miracles in my culture, it wasn’t a Human Being. It was the Messiah." You forget, don’t you? The grandest masters you can think of, who created the greatest miracle works on Earth, were all Human - Humans working for Humans, changing the vibration of the planet. Never did God send down an angel to affect a miracle. No matter what your mythology says, the Humans did all the divine work.
Did you ever think that you were someone else’s miracle? Did you ever give that any thought? We have told you before that you can’t really decide for someone else, you know? You cannot make them believe anything. You also cannot really heal them with your power. All you can do is allow them to see the healing for themselves. But what if you carried so much light that they could actually see God in you? Then perhaps they could see through the door that you had opened when you started your spiritual journey. They could feel they had used your light to start their own process. Then what if they had a miracle in their life? You would stand back and praise God, wouldn’t you? Then you’d say, "This is wonderful! Thank you, God." But you’d have no idea that you were the one who let it happen, who opened the door for them.
There are parents in this room who have done this for their children, and have brought their children to awareness. There are children in this audience who have brought their parents to awareness! There are best friends in this audience who have brought each other to awareness. There is no greater love than this, that you would open the door of healing for another, then stand back and watch them in their magnificence. This is the way God works… through you.
Know this. The way God works is through the divinity of the Human Beings on the earth. There is no other way. You are pieces of God who then raise the vibration of the planet through your working of "the puzzle." God does not come down and touch Human Beings. Humans, through free choice, open the portals within themselves and allow the light of God through them. This is the way God works… through the Human Beings on the planet who call themselves Lightworkers.
Number five is very difficult for you to believe: Many times as we’ve given this, there are many who cry that is can’t be… can’t be! Listen to this: There is no judgment for your actions from God while you are on Earth. There’s no judgment because the Human Being is totally responsible for what they do. You were brought here in order for you to decide to go to the light or the dark, and if you decide to go into the darkness, it is your decision. It’s what you came here for, and it’s part of free choice. God is not going to then judge you for your free choice. It’s part of the test, the puzzle. It creates the answers that are needed for the cosmos.
But there are those who say, "Surely there must be a price to pay for those who have chosen such bad things." Yet again, I’ll remind you of the parable of the Prodigal Son, one from the scriptures of your own culture. It was given a long time ago, so go read it and understand it differently. It’s a parable, a metaphor. In the parable, the father sent two sons out from his family to develop their own lives. Now, this is a metaphor for God sending two Humans down to Earth. In the parable, one does everything right and one does everything wrong. Now, go read for yourselves about what happened next: for when they came back home to the father, they both had a party… the same party! The celebration was identical for both of them. You see, there was no judgment.
God is not a judging God. For it is the Human Being’s free choice in which direction they wish to go. God does not stand over you with a hammer, for God loves you just for sitting in the chair… just for being on the journey that you’re on! Listen, the very story of an angel becoming Lucifer is the metaphor for the power of a Human to develop evil. It’s within your power to become light or dark, angel. Do you understand? This is part of the puzzle. You represent the brightest light and the darkest dark on the planet… no outside force is needed.
There are those here with heavy hearts. There are those reading with heavy hearts. They are saying to themselves, "God will never forgive me for what I’ve done." I will tell you, dear Human Being, that the Universe knows what you’ve done and there’s nothing but love that pours out for you. Erase those thoughts that you have created yourself. Those who break the laws of humanity will be judged by Humans. Humans have created this system of punishment and reward. It is not a divine system. Heaven and Hell are a 3D manifestation of what the Human thinks, not what God has created. It is an extension of mythology of what men think God must be like.
When you see a play of a murder, and the curtain closes, do you think the police come and get the actor who shot the gun? No! Instead, they all go have a cast party until they are again needed to play another part. This is the way of it with the "play of Earth."
Number six: Communication with God is direct - Human Being to God. You don’t need to sit in a group to communicate. You don’t need to write it down and pass it to somebody else who will then read it and talk to God. There is no standing in line for God. There is no right or wrong time for God, for communication is always "now." What are you going to do with that information? Act on it? Do it later? Think about it?
Some may say, "I went to this meeting where I heard a man channel an entity named Kryon. I’m going to have to think about everything he said, for some of the things were very interesting, but I don’t think I’m going to do it now." And the truth is that you’ll probably never do it.
We’ve said this before. Why do you think you’re sitting in the seat here? Do you think you came for a good time, or did you come for a life’s decision? No one here is going to be embarrassed with what you do, for it’s between you and your Higher-Self. This is sacred space, you know? It’s a safe place. There’s no better time for you to push on that door of communication. Even the unbeliever here can say, "Dear God, show me it’s real." It is real, and this will open the door! And what this does is to start a process that is divine. It will be as slow or as fast as you want to have it… gradually revealing the truth that I speak. Remember the promise I gave you last night? Blessed is the Human who asks, for indeed if he may truly wish to find what is inside, the process will begin. And those beautiful entities who guide you will start pushing on that door. It is then you’ll begin to feel it, and know that what I say is, indeed, real.
Misunderstandings About God
There are great misunderstandings about God. These have been created by cultural experiences and by men. Some of them have been in integrity and some have not. Some have been simple 3D misinterpretations of a multiple-D God, and some have been malicious by those in control to create fear and give more power to themselves.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 08:58:37 » |
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Hello again Dear Marwa,
and stay in love...
ONENESS
Number seven: Let me be very clear about this first one: There is no one on Earth who must suffer for God. This is not the way of God. Don’t you think you’ve had enough suffering without God creating rules for more of it? I speak to those who have been in the dark so long, who may be depressed and unhappy. Your health may be suffering or you may have an unsolvable relationship. You must understand, dear Human Beings, that suffering is something you do well on your own! It’s not what God wants for you. God would never, ever ask a Human Being to suffer.
What did I tell you about number two? I said there’s a partnership here, did I not? So I’ll tell you again: You don’t have to suffer to be part of this family. Throw away that notion that there’s a little trouble ahead or there’s some suffering that must be accomplished in order to move ahead spiritually. No. Would you want that for your family? Would you? Would you say to your sister, "I’d like you to come over to my house, but on the way I’d like you to suffer a little… walk on some nails, climb some difficult stairs… et cetera"? No, you would not, because you love her. You’d pray for her on the way, would you not? You might even go get her so she was safe! You see? That’s not what family does with family. There’s no suffering except that what the Human Being creates in his relationships with others or his environment with himself.
"Wait a minute, Kryon. What about those born with pain and disabilities? Humans didn’t set that up." Yes, you did, dear ones. It’s all part of the play and the puzzle that you have written for yourselves. Believe me, these things were agreed to in advance. Blessed is the Human Being who comes to this planet to walk through these difficulties, for the reasons are normally to facilitate the lives of others, or to create compassion, which is the oil of the engine of vibrational shift. This is so difficult for you to understand.
Number eight: God does not require or desire worship of any kind. I’m going to paint a picture for you and ask you to role play for a moment. Let us say that you pass on and go to the other side of the veil. Let us also imagine for a moment that you are allowed to come back to Earth and be with your children who are still alive, but in an invisible way. Let us say that you can hover around them, perhaps even touch them with energy and love. Let us say that in the right kind of an energy situation, they might even feel you touch them! Wouldn’t that be grand?
So, here you are helping them in an invisible way with your love and you touch them with your energy… and they say, "Oh, I’m afraid! I was just touched by something much bigger than me... perhaps something that might hurt me! I think I’m going to worship it because it is so grand and so big. I certainly don’t want it to hurt me. Maybe if I get down on my knees and worship it, it might leave me alone. Perhaps if I grovel enough, it might even give me things!" How would that feel? You’ve just changed your children’s lives, just because you were on the other side of the veil, but wanted to touch them and hold their hands. That’s the way God looks to many people. They feel the grandness, and feel the touch, so they go down on their knees and build great buildings and create statues. But in actuality, they are on their knees worshipping their sister or brother. How does that feel to you? Is that what you would want?
That’s not what we want, either! Listen, that’s not what we are asking. Blessed is the Human who searches for God and finds love! Blessed is the Human who takes the hand of God and stands as an equal partner! That’s the one who is going to have a long life and who walks in balance. That’s the one with mastery inside, and that’s the one everybody wants to be with.
Now to the next one: Number 9. How much schooling do you need to do this? How much training should you have to open the door of interdimensionality within your DNA? Oh, there are those who say, "You’d better begin the schooling." They want you to study things and memorize things and put lists together in order to find enlightenment. They manufacture their own kinds of rules of what you must do, and often they are in charge of you while you do it. They wish you to graduate and have a license to find your own mastery, and they say, "You’ll get to know God a lot better if you’ll follow these steps we have created."
So I ask you, how much training did the masters of Earth have? What schools did they graduate from? Dear ones, you have the school inside. You don’t have to go to school to recognize your own face or to touch the hand of God. Make no mistake, in this new energy, there are those who now have processes for you that will help develop your ability to better recognize your mastery inside. What they’re doing is helping you to exercise the new tools in your DNA; helping you to see the new tools of your own awareness. They’re not asking you to memorize useless textbooks of history so that you could climb their stairs and get to a certain plateau. They are not telling you that you need them to find God. No. God doesn’t care if you can even read or not. God just wants to touch you and develop the partnership within your own mastery inside. But when you have opened that door and wish to know more about what is there for you, there are those representing new energy tools who are ready to help you see in an interdimensional way.
Number 10. Difficult, it is, for your culture to understand. God is not political! But there are those who would say, "OK, Kryon, now you have crossed the line. Everything is political." No, it isn’t. Do not misunderstand what I say to you. Some have asked, "How can I be the best citizen of my country?" And the answer is the same in every country. The best Russian citizen is one who finds compassion in their lives. The best Estonian or Latvian citizen is the one who finds compassion in their lives. The best Lithuanian citizen is the one who finds compassion. The best American citizen is the one who finds compassion. For within your own society and your own culture, the compassioned citizen is the one who is going to make the difference for your leadership and for your country. They will make the best citizens you have. Can you imagine an Earth where all leadership is compassionate? Can you imagine an Earth where Humans care about each other, no matter where they live?
And you might say, "I don’t think I’ll live long enough for that." Well, dear Human Being, that is what the plan is! And it’s not God’s plan - it’s yours! That’s what you decided at the Harmonic Convergence, that eventually this earth will have compassion for one another - compassion and understanding from country to country. Compassion to Gaia [Mother Earth] and compassion to the environment.
Oh, this is not the start of a one-world government, for that will never happen. It’s not the start of a one-world religion, for that won’t happen either… ever. It’s the start of Human Beings going about their daily lives in their own cultures who have compassion for each other. Wait until you see it! Indeed, it may not be in your lifetime, but you are part of it, for you are starting the engine that will become it. Poised in a place, you are, that has no other parallel in history. You represent a world movement of old souls who are awakening and creating a vibrational shift on Earth… one that will result in a very big change.
It is the beginning of an enlightened age where slowly Earth moves toward peace. It’s not just possible, but in the works. The Mayans showed you this and so did the ancient Chinese! Do you really think that 2012 is the end of the world? Or is it the end of the old way?
"Oh, Kryon, I look at the news and it’s so awful. We call each other names, we kill one another. It’s not civilized; it’s awful." And I tell you again that this is what it looks like when you shine a giant light in the darkness. For you expose horrible things that were always there, but that were hiding in the dark. You can’t defeat the enemy unless you see his face, and this is what is happening. And his face is fear, evil, ego, hate and apathy.
Trust that there are many things happening that are beautiful on the planet. They go unreported because they don’t report good news. They represent the compassion of humanity, but that’s not very interesting to those who crave drama. Be patient and endure this battle between the light and the dark. Eighteen years ago, we told you of the battle and now you sit in it, and to some of you, it tears you apart. What kind of a warrior are you, afraid of battle? Why don’t you relax with it, knowing you’ve got the armor and the light? Begin that journey that we speak of and become part of the army of Lightworkers who are old souls and have the wisdom to make a difference.
We’re almost finished, almost ready to say goodbye, almost ready to put away the bowls of tears we have as we wash your feet with them. We’re going to hold the veil open just a little longer, waiting for just those last moments to be with you.
Odd things can still happen here. Will you go away saying, "God visited me today?" What will be your evaluation of what is happening here? Is it foolishness, something that someone brought you from another country? Or did a spiritual brother speak to you from the other side of the veil? What’s your evaluation? Is it possible that this sister/brother is speaking through this man - one who you held hands with for years or eons on the other side of the veil? Is it possible that you can feel that you’ve skipped through the Universe with this friend who sits here?
What God Wants
You see, if you can do that, that’s Number 11, because that’s what God wants. What God really wants is for you on your own to see who you really are. Bravery and courage - that’s what it takes, for this particular belief will change you forever. Indeed, there will be those who watch your change. Indeed, there will be those who don’t like it. Those are the ones who don’t like any change, for they depend on you remaining without your power. And maybe those are the ones you don’t need in your life? That’s free choice. Everything revolves around it. Everything.
Blessed is the Human who has come this day in search of information and has felt the touch of Kryon in their heart. For I am, indeed, a partner with you in this great land, ready to start an intuitiveness of love… ready to start a revelation in compassion, and to stir the very DNA in each of you. I wish to say, "Remember me, remember me." I am the Gatekeeper and I will see you again. When you come and you go from this planet, I’m the energy you see first and last. That’s how well I know you. I’m the servant of humanity - never to be worshipped, always ready to be your equal. Did you wonder today who came to see whom? Oh, you might be surprised.
For that I thank you.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 14:25:32 » |
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Wow! Where do you get this stuff from? I gotta know!
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 21:33:54 » |
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That was absolutely amazing! I would like to know more information about how to receive more information about this Kyron spirit. If what he says resonates so greatly with everyone else as it did with me, that is amazing! I was just reading this website that was written by a christian woman who was writing all about "New Age" I have to say that it confused me quite a bit. She was talking all about how all the new age thinking is satanic and ultimately worship of satan. That Jesus Christ is the only way. That he died on the cross for MY sins. Since I had grown up as a christian, it kinda made me uncomfortable. Was I worshiping Satan and turning my back on the True God? I pictured myself at the great white judgement seat and Jesus saying to me : "Away from me you evil doer! I never knew you!" What a terrible thing that would be. And yet, in my heart I don't think that is the way it is.. Anyways, oh yea, the tea! So, I'm making my tea and I pray that God will reveal a guardian angel to me or some kind of guide to tell me what the deal is. Only? Not to do it in a way that scares me! You never know!! lol All of a sudden I get this urge to come onto this forum. I went down to the religious section to see if anyone had posted anything in response to something prior I had written. As it turns out I read this entire speech that apparently was made by someone named Kyron. He was answering so many questions for me and he seemed like I did indeed know him somehow. I feel that so many of my questions have been answered! It is a wonderfull feeling! Do I dare to go forward with this thought? This feeling? This new way of thinking? DO I risk going to Eternal Damnation or Hell for beliving something other than Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and that he died on a cross for ME? Oh if I could just have ultimate clarity! I understand that according to Kyron this is all a puzzle and I should not worry myself to death! I really need to hear more about this Kyron and what he has to say and I also need to buy the book "Our Ultimate Reality". I don't dare ask my boyfriend for the money to purchase it, so I will wait untill I have my own funds to buy it! I can't wait to read the whole thing. I think I may have found what I have been looking for! I still have more questions, but I am beginning to feel better about my desision. There are soooooooo many verses in the bible that make it sound like I am making the wrong desision. Uggh what on earth am I to do? Sorry people, obviously I am going thru something. I feel guiltly for liking what I have been learning and gravitating tords ! Love ya'all! Heather!
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2007, 02:55:24 » |
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Dear Oneness,
I quoted some of your thoughts and wrote my thoughts in respond to them.
But trying to realize everything with only the help of QURAN..
(Marwa) not actually, but I try to realize how the Quran and the sciences of the religion contributed in the spiritual development of the human. There are many scientific discoveries that the Quran pointed to 1400 years ahead, and I do not doubt that it also implied something about the inner realities and spiritual growth. A mother once wanted to convey an important lesson of life to her son. She took a jar and filled it with rocks. She asked her son if the jar was filled. He said no. She then took pebbles and put it in the jar. The pebbles found their place in the spaces between the stones. She again asked her son if the jar was filled. He said no. She then took sand and shook the jar. The sand filled all the empty spaces in the jar. For me the rocks resemble the most important things in my life – my religious values and beliefs. The pebbles and the sand resemble my experience in life and what I learn from people.
..but I'm thinking the religions are old energies..They had no mission at all.
(Marwa) Albert Einstein said “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." And what religious beliefs you follow is completely your choice.
..because they served to separete people ..not connect ...But we have to realize ,we are ONE ..now on..So I don't want, to be in any of religion arguments. (Marwa) I believe people create life barriers that separate them from other people of different religions. There are some families whom the parents might be Christian and the children are of another religion, and they still live with each other peacefully. You can not force others to accept what you believe in. We all disagree with our friends about trivial issues and this does not mean that we separate. “There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path.” Quran (2:256) I have some comments about the Kryon, but I am afraid I donot have time to write them these days. Thank you Oneness for your thoughts, its my pleasure to speak to you. If there is something you would like to discuss about any of the topics I wrote, I would welcome that.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2007, 14:34:08 » |
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Hi Heather, I definitely understand about how the information from Kryon can make you feel. It is amazing! Personally I would recommend reading "Our Ultimate Reality" before reading Kryon. "Our Ultimate Reality" is an excellent book that sums up....well everything. Kryon really gets into the details and mechanics of....well everything. But since it appears you cannot read "Our Ultimate Reality" at the moment I would definitely read the Kryon channellings in the meantime. You can find them here: KRYON - Channelling menu page There's a lot of information in all the channellngs. It took me 3 months to read them all, but I'm usually pretty busy and I like to take my time reading, plus I took a lot of notes while reading  . In my opinion the information in "Our Ultimate Reality" and the channellings from Kryon are the most awe inspiring, wonderfully enlightening, and spiritual uplifting information I have ever read anywhere. Everytime I read their information I feel very spiritually elevated, enlightened, and awakened. I believe you would too, and it appears you already have from your response to the above Kryon information you have already read. If the information makes you feel happy and filled with love and inspiration, etc. I say go for it  . Free will is a most wonderful thing, and all I can say in regards to what the bible or others say is that God will never punish or judge anyone for practicing the right of free will. If reading other information goes against what you believe or have been taught, and it makes you feel guilty in the process then there would be absolutely nothing wrong with your decision if you decided to abandon this new information and focus only on your current beliefs. The good news is you don't have to abandon either one. Information from sources like the Bible, Kryon, and OUR contain very valuable information. No matter what anyone tells you, you can learn valuable information from many different sources. I do it all the time. Valuable information can come from anything and anywhere. It can come from a highly spiritual being to a very enlightening book to a tree or a bug to even a grain of sand. You would be pleasantly surprised where pearls of wisdom can come from. The source from where the information comes from is irrelevant. What matters is how you can use the information for yourself in your quest for spiritual development. Again, personally I highly recommend reading more from Kryon, and I definitely recommend reading "Our Ultimate Reality". It could the most life altering information you have ever read. But again, that's just my biased opinion. I hope this helps you somewhat. I hope I don't sound too much like I'm trying to sway you in your decision, but rather I'm just trying to help you feel at ease in whatever you decide.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2007, 12:59:16 » |
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I went to the Kryon website, and although I've only read a few of the channelings, I must say I was pleased at what I read. Some of my opinions that I have about spirituality, have been confirmed. It is very interesting and is worth the time to read.
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