Hello Melody,
To refer to God as He is only a tradition. God is the ultimate creator of everything there is, including us. And the majority of Christians understand this.
I am sure we agree on this. However - theology places God above creation - in other words as if God is the original Supreme Creator, and when God created the Earth and the Universe God was "above" it.
The fact remains, we did not create ourselves. God - the Universal consciousness created us, as it is creating millions of other living life forms within this magnificent Universe.
"Create" is a rather ambiguous word in this context. God actually sent forth aspects of God's Self in the form of Consciousness. Even then there was never a moment when we did not exist, because in the Eternal Moment of Now it is erroneous to speak in terms of ""before" and "after".
Not only have we not created ourselves, we have absolutely no know-how how to create any of the life forms except for giving birth to children, a function not designed by us either.
The physical body of a baby is not life - the Soul and Spirit that animates the baby is Life in that context.
And although we can realize God within, we still will not be able, at least not at this level where we are right now, to create even a fly out of nothing.
All creation is "with God", but as aspects God we are expressions of that Creative force.
Mind you, maybe we can create some microbes in a tube according to the DNA video posted recently in the forum, but did we really create them, or only supplied the environment so they can be created by a principle designed by God that we have no understanding of?
The video did not claim the scientists created the single and multi-celled organisms. In fact the point of the video is that they did not. The point is that Life is a fundamental characteristic of the Universe. The experiment provided the controlled conditions for that life to manifest from nothing, thus demonstrating that Life can the starting point of life can exist anywhere in the Universe without any "freak" conditions prevailing.
The hypothesis in the video also demonstrates what could happen to humans on 21 December 2012.
Even if some mystics can make a tree grow very fast from a seed, they still have not created this lifeform, only rearranged somehow the energy supply to that plant.
The Swamis do not claim to have created it. They simply caused it to grow extremely rapidly. How this happens they would not know, or would need to.
I am not really sure why you consider that a person cannot attain a sense of oneness with God through prayer. Many Christians do and the vivid examples are Christian saints who did just that. A prayer is a sort of a meditation. When not recited mechanically, it creates a sense of oneness with God and everything there is.
Yes I agree. True prayer, which I have written about before, is indeed invoking inner forcesand ultimately God. But the words are relatively meaningless, it is the feelings and connection with God that is the important thing. The words invoke the feelings which in turn invokes the end result.
Most prayer though is words and words alone.
Many people who meditate have a special meditation room, or a corner of the room set just for practicing of meditation, and this fact of designating a separate space helps in deepening the meditative experience, and establishing a feeling of peace within, creating an experience of communing with the Universal Mind, with God. Many people also go to Ashrams to meditate, and find it is easier to meditate in such places away from everyday tasks and worries. The church serves exactly the same purpose. But you are absolutely right that the mechanical church going and prayer recitation, in the same way as a mechanical mantra repetition would have very little effect.
I do not see churches as a place of meditation. They are, according to religion, a place of "worship". I am sure it would be possible to achieve a meditative state if completely alone however.
I am not really sure what you call theology, or theological. The way you use this word sounds like it is something bad.
Religion is theology - or the philosophy of religion. It is not "bad" - nothing is "bad" or "good" - it simply Is.
Does anybody who opens their mouth and says anything about the Bible is speaking theology?
Often yes. But not in my case and of course others who see beyond theology to the inner meaning of the Bible.
Am I speaking theology by stating it is so far only the God’s privilege to create living forms
Yes because you are speaking of God in the third person.
or provide the function by which they are created, and that as much as we try we just cannot do it, and therefore non us is God in that regard?
We most certainly are God. Just because people have not realised God does not make it any less true. As we progress we become more and more powerful creators until finally we are the perfect Creator.
Maybe we had this function once upon the time. Maybe it was when we were at some higher plane at some mythological Garden of Eden. And maybe we just lost it when we misaligned ourselves from the Universal creative Power, with God.
Incarnate humans never had these powers. Earth is the starting point of the return journey. That said - humans on Earth have lost many great powers and failed to evolve in the process.
Are we ever going to have the ability of creating life forms?
We already do - as God.
Is this what being God is all about?
God is infinitely more than that.
Then non of the people who claim to have realized God within can claim to be Gods, because they cannot formulate the functions and principles by which living forms are created. They can provide an environment, they can speed up or stop the processes, they can modify to a certain degree as with DNA modification, yet they cannot supply the original life principle..
Full God-realisation is an evolving process. When I speak of being "God-realised" I mean to the extent a human can be God-realised on Earth. Then we evolve and move on to greater levels of God-realisation. But as God-realised humans on Earth we can still create to the maximum extent as humans within that sphere of realisation.
And since this is the case, than let us not claim that somebody is more God-realized than the other because that other goes to a church, and that Christians with their theology have no chance to realize God within.
We can say that because it is true - not only that it is a primary reason that humans incarnate on Earth in the first place. Everyone is God realised to some extent otherwise they would not exist. What we are talking about is Conscious God-Realization.
Because by realizing God within we do not mean of acquiring the ability of creating life forms, but simply creating a feeling of oneness with God, and a sense of communion with the Ultimate Creator, and a sense of the Universal Love.
The living life forms already exist - all we are doing is bringing these life forms to the Earth vibration. There was never a time when these life forms did not exist.
And that feeling can be achieved by many means, and even through prayer and church going, and even through listening to a theological discourse by a priest, or listening to classical or church music.
It is not a "feeling" it is a state of Being - although of course there are feelings associated with it.
All of those are just external trigger points, People react to different triggers, and it does not really matter which trigger a person is using to achieve the inner Peace, Love, and the feeling of Oneness with God. Regardless of whether one is using OUR, Bible, Koran, or Buddhist texts, the real job still has to be done within. It is not those texts that would do it for you.
Many of these texts contain the "code" for God-realisation certainly - but not if read theologically.
The Lord's Prayer for example is extremely powerful, but not if recited mechanically.
You see when people say the Lords Prayer or sing hymns, or repeat verses from the Bible, they might as well be reading from the latest Harry Potter book

Words alone have no power. They have power when the inner feelings associated with them are invoked. And I do not mean the feel good factor or anything on that level, I mean feelings and realisation on a much deeper level, and there are no words existing that can describe it.
That is why I say that God-realisation is a state of Being.
In Love and Light,
Adrian.