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« on: December 15, 2007, 19:06:55 »


We are not bound by space or time. We can incarnate into any physical, temporal time period that is most appropriate for our evolution. Beyond Earth there is only the "Eternal Now" wherever everything that has happened, is happening or will happen relative to Earth time already exists. That is why we can "view" the future. The future is only a temporal concept when in fact everything is now.

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Hello Talker,

Hello Adrian,
Thank you.
Seems appropriate  in view of your comments above, to inquire of a concept that I had read some while ago, and am still wrestling with.
Did read that "all that has ever happened, has already taken place."
Wow, is my first thought. That may mean that "we", all of us are already gone, kaput, dead, and are now living out an illusion some how! Not sure at this point where further thoughts will lead. Thinking along those lines, would mean that the so called future has come and gone, and we are all safely tucked away back into the Ultimate source!  Your comments on this.


I think the statement "all that has ever happened, has already taken place" is somewhat ambiguous to say the least. "Happened" and "taken place" mean substantially the same thing.  If it said ""all that has ever happened, is already taking place it might present more of a question, but it is still ambiguous Smiley

At the final analysis, as "time" itself does not exist, we cannot talk in terms of "happened" or "will happen".

The entire Universe and everything within it cannot be even considered in terms of the Earth concept of time, because there is literally only the eternal moment of Now.

This "timelessness" might seem difficult to imagine on Earth, but people in the Astral and inner worlds have no concept of time. And we all experience time differently according to our state of Mind and consciousness. Some things seem to happen in a moment, others, e.g. things that are not welcome, seem to drag on forever.

Ultimately it is also related to relativity. This is how Einstein perceives it:

"A man sits with a pretty girl for an hour and it seems shorter than a minute. But tell that same man to sit on a hot stove for a minute, it is longer than any hour. That's relativity."

Kind regards,

Adrian.

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Hello Adrian,
I have a tad of thought confusion here about "earth now" and the "Eternal Now". I took some quotes from two other posts some what, about my expression, " "all that has ever happened, has already taken place."

From your post, the quote:

 Beyond Earth there is only the "Eternal Now" wherever everything that has happened, is happening or will happen relative to Earth time already exists

While my wording is clumsily stated, is not the meaning basically the same! All that has ever happened on earth, has already taken place, and still exists in some manner, even if still being played out in that Eternal Now! If it exists in any manner, and one focuses attention toward a specific or earth time something, wouldn't it seem then, that it could be viewed, from ones earth time presence! For example, if one in the highest vibratory state possible to a human, be able to view or sense an event or condition! Have read some where that the first sound ever made or uttered is still resonating some where. So does that also apply to any what one calls past or future lives, that it is still happening!  I seem to recall a statement made on the forum here that was made regards Jesus, that he was preparing us for the coming 2012 event,wouldn't that be "seeing the future?

Found the quote I referred to:

[quote author=Adrian link=topic=507.msg3088#msg3088 . Some "Ascended Masters"  however voluntarily return to Earth at various crucial junctures in the evolution of humanity, in order to assist in the process of guiding the consciousness of humanity in the right direction. So Jesus was a very high Initiate relatively speaking, one of the highest to reincarnate, as well as for example Hermes Trismegistus, Buddha and others, who came to Earth to prepare the way for the transition of the ages that we are now experiencing, although of course he did not anticipate his words being turned into a religion that would have exactly the opposite effect on consciousness that he intended, and which plummeted humanity into even greater depths.

This was not the fault of Jeshua however - he completed his mission perfectly, it was rather the Roman Empire that ceased his words and turned them into an instrument of control, notwithstanding they had not the faintest clue about the true meaning of his teachings.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

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Realize it is all conjecture, at the moment, but could it under ideal or ( no word fits here to me ) be aware and in that alternate reality! Guess I need to stop here as words fail to convey what I'm endeavoring to say.

I realize that all one has, or will ever have is the Eternal Now, does this or can this apply even if not in the physical!


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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2007, 12:31:33 »

Hello Talker,

I understand the point you are making.

As I have just explained in my last post, what confuses many people is this thing called "time".

Even the word "happened" is erroneous, or at least ambiguous, because it implies the past tense and therefore time again.

Reincarnation is actually a reasonable model, and one for which I would rfer you to one of my articles:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/wheels-of-life-part-1-reincarnation.html

All incarnations take place concurrently in the present moment of Now, but along lines connecting to the temporal concept of "time".

Kind regards,

Adrian.
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