Spiritual Gifts Interpretation/Usage From the Bible

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

I sometimes get these "religious representatives" coming to my door ...

Hello Adrian,

I wander why you create this type of reality. I never have anybody like that coming to my door...   

Where I live is a small island community but with a diverse range of belief systems and in particular folklore that goes back thousands of years. Our government is the oldest in the world founded by the vikings over 1000 years ago.  We have "fairy" bridges, and here is now believed to be the true location of the Isle of Avalon of the Arthurian legends.  Halloween also originated from here as a pagan tradition before it was "exported" to the US to how it is today - which is still  great for the kids. The kids here in halloween sing a special song originating from those times called "Hop tu Naa".

So as you can see, there are many and varied types of people I can attract to my door

In answer to your question, I suppose I attract them because I actually enjoy myself when they arrive. It is always interesting to discover what makes them tick, and in particular what motivates them to go from door to door hoping to sell their particular religious book to complete strangers.

The sad thing is they are motivated only out a sense of duty to the religion they were born in to without any knowledge of the alternative possibilities.

Another frequent response to questions often brings a response that includes "our Heavenly Father". When I ask them how they perceive our Heavenly Father they can never answer that question either. 

They are completely programmed responses, just as children are programmed about everything else including but not limited to education, "jobs", money, marriage, eating habits and just about everything else.

All I ask of them before they leave is that they start to think more about why they are doing what they do, and to start thinking for themselves generally, and above all else to make an effort to discover the truth based upon the facts and inner feelings.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

I suppose I attract them because I actually enjoy myself when they arrive. It is always interesting to discover what makes them tick, ...

Another frequent response to questions often brings a response that includes "our Heavenly Father". When I ask them how they perceive our Heavenly Father they can never answer that question either. 

They are completely programmed responses, ...

I ask of them before they leave is that they start to think more about why they are doing what they do, and to start thinking for themselves generally, and above all else to make an effort to discover the truth based upon the facts and inner feelings.

Hello Adrian,

I guess we have something in common, I also enjoy discovering what makes somebody tick. And I strongly believe that everybody should  think for themselves and form an independent view on reality.

Since they cannot describe how they perceive "our Heavenly Father" it appears they do not have a programmed response, not to that one. The fact that you have defind for yourself how you choose to perceive "our Heavenly Father' does not necessarily make it so in the reality, regardless of all the facts in our common collective possesion, and all the inner feelings one has on the subject. As a matter of fact, such feelings can be very deceptive at times, springing up on the bases of personal believes. There is no way of knowing what comes first, a feeling or a thought (believe). To attribute our intuition to our feelings would be a fallacy. We do not always know the subconscious origin of our feelings and the inner believes they might have been based on, which do not necessarily corresponding to the external reality.

As for those people going from door to door, I have a great respect for them since all they are doing is trying to propagate their set of believes, in the same way as many people are now propagating their sets of believes online. Everybody finds their respective audience.
 

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

If they cannot perceive what they describe as "our Heavenly Father" then they cannot possibly relate to that concept. In otherwords it is, as with most religion, blind faith.

The absolute basis of our reality, our success and above all our Spiritual evolution is the realisation of Source, God, Father within.

The absolute pinnacle achievement of a Higher Self incarnation is to become "God-realised" in other words to fullly Realise God Within while still in a physical human body.  Almost all teachings including those of Yeshua lead to this, and in fact Yeshua himself was fully God-realised, which is why he achieved what he did.

Once we fully realise God within we can fully express as God, and that means infinite power - the same power as Source.

"Heavenly Father" implies an external deity, and anyone who perceives God as external to themselves will always be fighting the physical world and suffering as a result.

I too respect anyone who has so much of a sense of duty that they will go from door to door selling something which must create considerable resistance.  As I said, I always treat these people with respect, and never argue with them in any way - I rather endeavour to make them think a bit more for themselves.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

The absolute basis of our reality, our success and above all our Spiritual evolution is the realisation of Source, God, Father within.

The absolute pinnacle achievement of a Higher Self incarnation is to become "God-realised" in other words to fullly Realise God Within while still in a physical human body. 

Once we fully realise God within we can fully express as God, and that means infinite power - the same power as Source.

Hello Adrian,

Does God exists only inside a human being once they realize him, and does not exist anywhere else outside of a human being?

If I understand correctly from what you said above, the Source and God are the same thing. Since there is no external God, there should be no external Source. But in other posts you said that our ultimate goal is to go back to the Source from where we came. Therefore the Source is external to us? If the Source created us, all the planets and universe then it is external. We did not create the universe and planets. But you claim that such a Source outside of us does not exist. So what or who created the Universe?

Only human beings can have internal God? How about animals? Can they realize God within?

If the Source is outside of us, the Source that already has infinite power that we do not yet have and we are trying to connect to it and realize it within us, it is external to us, and it does not matter if you call it the Source or "our Heavenly Father" since this is only semantics.

Could you please describe to me how do you imagine this external Source to where we will all return.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

The absolute basis of our reality, our success and above all our Spiritual evolution is the realisation of Source, God, Father within.

The absolute pinnacle achievement of a Higher Self incarnation is to become "God-realised" in other words to fullly Realise God Within while still in a physical human body. 

Once we fully realise God within we can fully express as God, and that means infinite power - the same power as Source.

Hello Adrian,

Does God exists only inside a human being once they realize him, and does not exist anywhere else outside of a human being?

If I understand correctly from what you said above, the Source and God are the same thing. Since there is no external God, there should be no external Source. But in other posts you said that our ultimate goal is to go back to the Source from where we came. Therefore the Source is external to us? If the Source created us, all the planets and universe then it is external. We did not create the universe and planets. But you claim that such a Source outside of us does not exist. So what or who created the Universe?

Only human beings can have internal God? How about animals? Can they realize God within?

If the Source is outside of us, the Source that already has infinite power that we do not yet have and we are trying to connect to it and realize it within us, it is external to us, and it does not matter if you call it the Source or "our Heavenly Father" since this is only semantics.

Could you please describe to me how do you imagine this external Source to where we will all return.

God is everywhere and everything and within everything.

Realisation of God within is only really applicable to humans in physical and perhaps Astral form in that most humans regard God as an external entitity.   

Animals are on a different path back to God, but they are still channels of experience for God.

Although realisation of God within is the highest attainment for a physically incarnated human being, it is only one of several factors that determine Spiritual evolution including:

1. Realisation of God within
2. Subjugation of the Ego
3. Elemental equilibrium
4. Service to others before service to self
5. Unconditional Love

All these contribute towards the state of perfection, which in turn determines the vibration of our Energy field, and in turn where we are on the path.

As we become more perfected our vibration increases, and as our vibration increases we automatically transition to the corresponding Energy level of vibration within the Universe.

As for the question if everything is God how do we travel back to God - the answer is in Consciousness.  We already exist all the way from Source, God out to our human body.  As we become more perfected our vibration increases and Consciousness follows.

Astral projection for example is not projecting "outside" of our body, it is actually a projection within our own Mind to the realms of the collective Mind.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

 

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

God is everywhere and everything and within everything.

This is the same as what the Bible says (the same as a religious and theological interpretation) - I am the Alpha and Omega of everything that ever was, is, and will be. I can choose to call him The Alpha and The Omega, or God, Or The Source, or "our Heavenly Father" since he is also all that vast space that we can only partially imagine by gazing upwards. Basically, it does not really matter what we call The God, or whether we think in pictures or ideas as far as He is concerned.

What matters to us is that God has chosen to differentiate his parts away from himself, and gave each such entity a free will. By granting us free will he put himself also outside of us. It appears there is a great purpose in this, in this differentiating of God's parts. At the same time there is the dichotomy for us of both having the God within and Him being outside of us, in the same way as planets and trees are outside of us, yet we are all a part of the Universe and of God.

He is still the great creator of us, of the Universe, and of the planets. The planets and everything that is did not create themselves. If they did, there would be no God, no ultimate creator, and no powers for us to realize.

Animals are on a different path back to God, but they are still channels of experience for God.

Are animals also going inside their own Consciousness? It appears since the animals and we are only God's channels for experiencing, why should he wish us to go back to him and severe this experiencing channel?

1. Realisation of God within
2. Subjugation of the Ego
3. Elemental equilibrium
4. Service to others before service to self
5. Unconditional Love

As for the question if everything is God how do we travel back to God - the answer is in Consciousness.  We already exist all the way from Source, God out to our human body.  As we become more perfected our vibration increases and Consciousness follows.

Here you are describing the means of getting back to the source, not the source itself. Raising the vibrations of the Consciousness is a process of how to get there. You are basically putting in different semantics the same concept expressed in the Bible that we have to be moral, keep the God's laws, help the poor and those who need our help, pray (=meditate).

Astral projection for example is not projecting "outside" of our body, it is actually a projection within our own Mind to the realms of the collective Mind.

So there is no such thing as out of the body experience?

If we are simply projecting inside our own mind, we might find all sorts of subconscious stuff lurking there which has nothing to do with collective consciousness or realizing God within. As for the collective consciousness, I much rather attempt to connect to God's vibrations than to the Human collective Mind.

Going inside one's mind is also done in quite moments and in prayer (or call it meditation), as described in the Bible.

Somehow I see great parallel in the biblical (religious) teaching and what you teach. You simply choose to use a different semantics.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

What matters to us is that God has chosen to differentiate his parts away from himself, and gave each such entity a free will. By granting us free will he put himself also outside of us. It appears there is a great purpose in this, in this differentiating of God's parts. At the same time there is the dichotomy for us of both having the God within and Him being outside of us, in the same way as planets and trees are outside of us, yet we are all a part of the Universe and of God.

I am pleased to see you say these things after the discussions of the other topics - it demonstrates that you accept the fact that we are God, or as you say "differentiated parts" of God which is true.

However, there is nothing outside of us at all. Trees, planets and everything else that the physical senses suggest is separate are in fact a part of us. Everything is an integral aspect of everything else, and in turn God.  This is how Telekinesis works - we do not move something separate to us, we movepart of ourselves.

He is still the great creator of us, of the Universe, and of the planets. The planets and everything that is did not create themselves. If they did, there would be no God, no ultimate creator, and no powers for us to realize.

Of course - we all exist as Thought Forms, or "ideas" within Universal Mind, the Mind of God.

Are animals also going inside their own Consciousness? It appears since the animals and we are only God's channels for experiencing, why should he wish us to go back to him and severe this experiencing channel?

Everything in existence is a channel of experience for God, even rocks. Planet Earth is a great Planetary Spirit and a channel of experience of God. God, who as we know is not a "he" or a "she" does not "wish" anything. Everything in creation was created with a purpose. 

As for the severing of the channel of experience. On an Earth human level this is an infinite process with "new Souls" always starting their journey. And of course there are countless trillions of other planets, many of which have life, which are also channels of experience. Humans are not special in any way.

1. Realisation of God within
2. Subjugation of the Ego
3. Elemental equilibrium
4. Service to others before service to self
5. Unconditional Love

As for the question if everything is God how do we travel back to God - the answer is in Consciousness.  We already exist all the way from Source, God out to our human body.  As we become more perfected our vibration increases and Consciousness follows.

Here you are describing the means of getting back to the source, not the source itself. Raising the vibrations of the Consciousness is a process of how to get there. You are basically putting in different semantics the same concept expressed in the Bible that we have to be moral, keep the God's laws, help the poor and those who need our help, pray (=meditate).

What I am quoting are paths to perfection. The "ten commandments" are human interpretations, most of which have nothing whatsoever to do with perfection as such.

Astral projection for example is not projecting "outside" of our body, it is actually a projection within our own Mind to the realms of the collective Mind.

So there is no such thing as out of the body experience?

The experience is real enough, but it is not an "out of body" experience. It is actually the opposite in many respects because the projection is within the realms of our own Mind, and accordingly Universal Mind, there is no "outwards" projection at all.

If we are simply projecting inside our own mind, we might find all sorts of subconscious stuff lurking there which has nothing to do with collective consciousness or realizing God within. As for the collective consciousness, I much rather attempt to connect to God's vibrations than to the Human collective Mind.

Going inside one's mind is also done in quite moments and in prayer (or call it meditation), as described in the Bible.

Somehow I see great parallel in the biblical (religious) teaching and what you teach. You simply choose to use a different semantics.

Well first of all, although Out of Body Experiences and Astral Projection are both useful for verifying that consciousness can exist independantly of the physical body, neither experience has any intrinsic value in terms of Spiritual evolution.

I never get involved with semantics, but as you know, I regard the Bible very highly as a source of teaching of Initiation and Spiritual Growth, but there is a vast difference between what I write and the theology of the Church.  For example, two of the fundamental teachings of Jesus are Faith and Belief, but the Church haven't a clue what these mean, instead taking them to mean a blind faith in a deity called "God" and "belief" in God as depicted by religious doctrines, i.e. a vengeful, jealous, egotistical, capricious, benevolent God who punishes those who do not follow "his" commandments, worship him, and accept Jesus as their "saviour", the worst punishments being refused access to "Heaven" or worse being sent to "hell".

This is why in my newsletters I am progressively revealing the inner meanings of the Bible and will continue to do so.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

..."belief" in God as depicted by religious doctrines, i.e. a vengeful, jealous, egotistical, capricious, benevolent God who punishes those who do not follow "his" commandments, worship him, and accept Jesus as their "saviour", the worst punishments being refused access to "Heaven" or worse being sent to "hell".

This is not how I see the biblical teachings and God in the Bible.

You have no problem accepting that any human being can achieve many great things, get incredible powers, and do miracles, but you seem to be closed to the fact that God equally can create miracles and send himself in a physical form to this planet as Jesus, and even miraculously conceive himself in a human form without sex. If our task is to get back to God, to the Source, than this Source can be called our Saviour, and Jesus being God is our Saviour.

Considering God is perfection, something went adrift in his creative process because evil and imperfection was created. And since God is everything there is, this imperfection is therefore a part of him. I am not surprised that he would conceivably want to purge himself of this imperfection, as one gets to do a purging by cutting out a cancerous growth. A tumor has many living cells of a human being, which have a life force and consciousness of their own, yet a person without hesitation cuts those not perfect cells off.

We are not probably such a marvelous creation in the realms of the Gods's creative powers to be given special privileges. As much as a person does not care about the life and aspiration of the living cells he is destroying when killing a tumor, God might equally want to purge himself of all the imperfection to attain again his perfect state.

There is another being for which does not consider us very important, the one we inhabit - the Earth,.It creates all sort of natural disasters, maybe to get rid of us. Maybe it regards us as a tumor on its surface, for defiling it the way we do.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

..."belief" in God as depicted by religious doctrines, i.e. a vengeful, jealous, egotistical, capricious, benevolent God who punishes those who do not follow "his" commandments, worship him, and accept Jesus as their "saviour", the worst punishments being refused access to "Heaven" or worse being sent to "hell".

This is not how I see the biblical teachings and God in the Bible.

I was referring to the teachings of the Christian religion, and in particular a specific faction of the Christian religion that teaches these doctrines. This is how they have chosen to interpret and teach the Bible.

You have no problem accepting that any human being can achieve many great things, get incredible powers, and do miracles, but you seem to be closed to the fact that God equally can create miracles and send himself in a physical form to this planet as Jesus, and even miraculously conceive himself in a human form without sex. If our task is to get back to God, to the Source, than this Source can be called our Saviour, and Jesus being God is our Saviour.

If you read my book, newsletters and website, I am sure you will note that I am not closed to anything - absolutely the opposite in fact.

But again, as I have mentioned before when you raise these issues, you are perceiving God in human terms, for example "create miracles", "himself" etc. Nothing is "miraculous" to Source, because Source is literally the Source of everything in creation. A miracles is only a "miracle" to the limited, temporal perception of human beigs who cannot yet grasp the nature of the infinite.

God did indeed send God's Self to Earth as Jesus, just as he sent you as Melody, and everyone and everything else in creation. We are all channels of experience and expression of Source, God.  The so called "virgin birth" is part of a myth that has been replicated numerous times over the course of three thousand years or so starting with the Egyptian God Horus.

If Jesus wanted to come to Earth without being subjected to usual reproductive processes, he could simply materialise as an Avatar.

Considering God is perfection, something went adrift in his creative process because evil and imperfection was created.

God is perfection, and everything in creation is perfection. It is only most humans that fail to see this due to a very limited temporal perspective on the true nature of reality. Also there is no such thing as "evil", there is only experience. "Evil" is again a human idea.

And since God is everything there is, this imperfection is therefore a part of him. I am not surprised that he would conceivably want to purge himself of this imperfection, as one gets to do a purging by cutting out a cancerous growth. A tumor has many living cells of a human being, which have a life force and consciousness of their own, yet a person without hesitation cuts those not perfect cells off.

To suggest that God is "imperfect" and simply "got it wrong", and then had to retrospectively destroy or "purge" himself is to totally fail to understand the nature of God and the perfect, immutable workings of the Universe.

Cancer cells do not have a conscioisness of their own as such. They are part of the entire consciousness and under the control of the Subconscious Mind. Cancer cells exist because of the uncontrolled though processes of the peson experiencing cancer. God on the other hand has no such uncontrolled though processes because God is perfect.

We are not probably such a marvelous creation in the realms of the Gods's creative powers to be given special privileges. As much as a person does not care about the life and aspiration of the living cells he is destroying when killing a tumor, God might equally want to purge himself of all the imperfection to attain again his perfect state.

Again - God created no such imperfection on that level. Everyone is perfect, but the meaning of life is to realise that perfection through experience.

There is always balance including at the level of the Higher Self.  The same Higher Self can, at the same time, be for example be a person regarded by humans as really "evil" and another who is regarded as supremely "good". The Higher Self needs the benefit of the experience of both in order to be complete.

There is another being for which does not consider us very important, the one we inhabit - the Earth,.It creates all sort of natural disasters, maybe to get rid of us. Maybe it regards us as a tumor on its surface, for defiling it the way we do.

"Natural disasters" are just that - natural.

Take so called "climate change" for example. This is nothing whatsoever to do with human activity, and no serious scientist believes it is. What we are experiencing now on Earth part of natural cycles that occur with immutable precision and in this case affects the entire solar system and beyond. What we have seen so far is just the beginning.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

If Jesus wanted to come to Earth without being subjected to usual reproductive processes, he could simply materialise as an Avatar.

Jesus could have come here as an Avatar if he was simply and enlightened being from higher spheres, or an Ascended Master, as you referred to him at another occasion. But since he is refereed to as being God himself, he can choose to come here in whichever way he pleases, to share with us this experience of starting on this Earth as a regular person. After all, it is for the God to decide how he wants to appear on this planet, and what we should be getting out of it, and not for us to tell him how he should or should not have done it. As the highest "magician" he can really do it in whichever way he wants.

God is perfection, and everything in creation is perfection. It is only most humans that fail to see this due to a very limited temporal perspective on the true nature of reality. Also there is no such thing as "evil", there is only experience. "Evil" is again a human idea.

Killing and torturing somebody is not evil? In that case it should be OK for God to extinguish those whom he chooses since that would not be anything bad and only represent experiencing for God. He can create his own experiences without us existing and directing the flow of those experiences... Maybe we think too highly of ourselves to consider we are the primary source of God's expansion and experiencing...

...the nature of God and the perfect, immutable workings of the Universe.

It appears to me that the workings of the Universe would still remain quite perfect even if all the human souls were extinguished through some perfect workings of that Universe... 

Just a different way of looking at things.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Jesus could have come here as an Avatar if he was simply and enlightened being from higher spheres, or an Ascended Master, as you referred to him at another occasion. But since he is refereed to as being God himself, he can choose to come here in whichever way he pleases, to share with us this experience of starting on this Earth as a regular person.

I know he is referred to as a God person, but then again, as I have mentioned before many times, so are we all, and to no lesser or greater extent than Jesus. Jesus himself confirms this many times.

After all, it is for the God to decide how he wants to appear on this planet, and what we should be getting out of it, and not for us to tell him how he should or should not have done it. As the highest "magician" he can really do it in whichever way he wants.

God does not make decisions on behalf of anyone - we all have absolute freewill, necessary in order to maintain harmony and ultimate perfection. God does not "please" either - these are all human concepts.

Killing and torturing somebody is not evil? In that case it should be OK for God to extinguish those whom he chooses since that would not be anything bad and only represent experiencing for God. He can create his own experiences without us existing and directing the flow of those experiences... Maybe we think too highly of ourselves to consider we are the primary source of God's expansion and experiencing...

I have to be careful when discussing these subjects because I realise people are passionate about them, and there are many levels of understanding. I will simply make two points:

Without "evil" there would be no reference point for "good". The same applies to hot and cold, up and down, black and white etc. They are all polar degrees of the same thing. One person's "good" might be the next persons "evil", and I am sure that there are many things happening in the Universe that are far more extreme in both directions.

As for "killing and torturing not evil"?

Do you know what organisation is directly responsible for more torturing, deaths and misery than any other, and by a long margin, more than all the wars of the world put together?

The answer is the Roman Catholic church.

Do you regard the Roman Catholic church as "good" or "evil"?

Knowing that we are channels of expression and experience of God is fundamental to the reason we are here on Earth. If anyone refuses to believe this truth, or believes that those who do are egocentric or even crazy, then it is they that will suffer and fail to make progress this time around.

We are not the primary source of God's expansion - to the contrary in fact - humans are just one small race on a planetary backwater in a Universe of countless other forms of life - all of which are channels of experience of Source Energy.

It appears to me that the workings of the Universe would still remain quite perfect even if all the human souls were extinguished through some perfect workings of that Universe... 

You could not be further from the truth

It is during the quest and even struggle for perfection that perfection is realised, and every single human being is instrumental in that process.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

You teach that we all have to raise our vibrations in order to be able to get back to the Source. By this it is understood that one has to eliminate a lot of negative emotions and thoughts, eliminate all roots of evil in one’s soul, spirit, body and mind. Only when one will become a pure Love and high vibrating pure Light can one aspire to return back to the Source. Therefore, the God, the Source is a very discriminating entity. It only accepts those who have absolutely nothing evil in them, not an iota of such a vibration, and would not accept “to the Heaven” = to the Source anybody who is vibrating with evil vibrations.

 Well, this is a very biblical teaching indeed, but also exactly what you teach using a different lexicon from the Bible. Yes, The God is “jalousie”, because he wants his children back to his realms, back to “the Heaven”.


Basically, only those can be “saved” = get back to the Source, are those who become the highest and purest vibration. And this was what Jesus was preaching, but in different words. He taught “Believe and Faith” in tie Source, and the process of attaining the highest possible vibrations to be admitted back to Heaven = to be admitted back to the Source. And the only way of doing that was through the process, through his teachings he was leaving on Earth. This is how he is a Savior, since it is only through that process that he himself has demonstrated on Earth, though Him, that people can be “Saved” = can get back to the Source.

We have to remember that the different parts of the Bible were written 2000 and more years ago, when people had very specific words, imagery and emotions associated with their times and could not have possibly spoken the same language we speak and use the same vocabulary to explain the same concepts we do. We have to give the Bible a leeway in the coloring of the words it uses, since this is coming from a very different epoch from ours. Yet it is so rich in imagery and the wording itself is quite superb. If one sees the imagery more in poetic terms than the difference in the wording used as compared to our epoch will become quite attractive.

One only has to look at the poetry from the middle ages to see how the imagery, perception and expression differs from our epoch.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Raising vibration is the result of ongoing perfection it is true, but there is much more to the process than eliminating negative thoughts and emotions etc. In important aspect for example is elemental equilibrium and the transmutation of negative characteristics into their polar opposite positive characteristics - this is the basis of alchemy. Likewise "Love and Ligh" is only a part of the process.

Source, God does not disciminate or judge in any way whatsoever.

These ideas stem from the perception of a God in the form of a deity who makes decisions which simply is not the case. God is everything, everywhere and pure Energy hust as we are. The only determining factor for progression is our individual vibration - as our vibration increases through perfection, we automatically, in accordance with Universal Principles, transition to the corresponding Energy level of the Universe until finally approaching the vibration of Source, God.  So again, "discrimination", "acceptance" etc. are not relevant.

Being "saved" is a religious concept. Every single person without exception will find their way back to Source - only the path differs.

Also, our true self is not each individual incarnation, but rather our Higher Self. Each incarnation is only a fragment of our Higher Self, and therefore one incarnation might be considered to be "evil" and another "good". The Higher Self contains elements of both for a full package of experience, so to talk about individual incarnations in the context of progressions is to miss the bigger picture.

Jesus was only one of a great many teachers throughout history. His teachings would be of far more value if people actually understoood them, which of course the church has not.  It is erroneous to believe that progress can only be made through the teachings of Jesus, or even more extreme that peoplke can only reach God through the teachings of Jesus because this is simply not true, evem though it is stated to be true for the purposes of control, the church claiming to represent Jesus, and therefore the only route to "salvation" is through the church.

In fact everything we need to progress on the path and to approach God is within - all anyone needs to do is extablish and maintain that connection for themselves, instead of relying on belief systems.

 The Bible is indeed an exceptional source of wisdom as a book of Inititiation and Metaphysics once it is understood. As I have said many times before - there is not a single word of theology in the entire Bible.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

The word "discriminating" is simply metaphorical. Basically, no evil can get back to the Source, and this is exactly the same as what the Bible teaches. The word "saved" is also metaphorical, and simply means that you will be able to get back to the Source, which both according to you and to the Bible is our ultimate goal.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

The word "discriminating" is simply metaphorical. Basically, no evil can get back to the Source, and this is exactly the same as what the Bible teaches. The word "saved" is also metaphorical, and simply means that you will be able to get back to the Source, which both according to you and to the Bible is our ultimate goal.

It would be more appropriate to say that no entity with a low vibration can reach the Source, as "evil" is a human concept, but yes I would agree.

"Saved" I would not completely agree with, because according to religious doctrines if you are not "saved" you end up frying in "hell".

Notwithstanding that, the question of being "saved" is erroneous for the reasons I mentioned before, specifically each incarnation is but a very small part of our true, inner or Higher Self, our complete self which goes on to greater things and inwards to God.  When religion talks about a person being "saved" they do not understand that they are referring to only a small part of the complete entity, or to put it another way they believe that the person is the same person that is either "saved" and goes on to God, or is not "saved" and goes to "hell". In other words there is a complete lack of understanding of the nature of the human Spirit.

The important thing to keep in Mind above all else however is that no one is ever "lost", no matter how dark or "evil" they might seem. They are still only an aspect of the complete Higher Self entity taking a different path.

Kind regards,

Adrian.