Satan, Lucifer, The Devil

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Brandon,

I went to the link for your book (btw I think is great that you dedicated the time to record thoughts and your findings) - so, anyway as I read under the Chapter 1 "The name of evil" you have a sentence that goes: "Many people would debate that certain kings, lords, politicians, Vlad III, Hitler and so on.,..."

Can you please tell me who do you mean by Vlad III - who is this character??



love

[Goonie]

Has anyone ever watched the Omen? wat is the meaning behind being born of a jackel? If satan is real will he emerge within the field of polotics? also, wat of the three 666 symbol. someone at my job has them on his thigh. he claims to be born with them.

[TheBaron]

Can you please tell me who do you mean by Vlad III - who is this character??

Vlad III or Vlad Dracula or Vlad Tepes was a king of Wallachia, Romania during the 1400s.  "Dracul" means Devil or Dragon and was what his father was called and the '-a' means "son of" so basically "son of the devil."  Tepes means "Impaler" and was his favorite 'nickname' because he was known for impaling his victims on large stakes.  He is the character which Dracula was originally based off of.  Supposedly atleast once, Vlad had a bowl of his victim's blood gathered and he dipped his bread in it.  He was also reportedly to have been killed at one point and to have risen from the dead. 

I don't remember the exact details of the story, but some large army of the time was invading Romania, and they came across one of Vlad's towns.  Well apparently the week prior the village had 'rebelled' against Vlad and he had 'disciplined' them.  When the scout for this large army (it was like the Persians or the Mors or something of that caliber) came upon the town they ran back to the main host as swiftly as they could in sheer panic.  When the rest of the host caught site of the town, ever villager had been impaled on pikes that surrounded the town, and even fetus were pulled from their mother's wombs and spiked next to her.  This army was so terrified that they turned and never invaded Wallachia.

Dracula is supposedly from Transylvania in the books, which is a part of Romania, but Vlad was never in control of this region.

Has anyone ever watched the Omen? wat is the meaning behind being born of a jackel? If satan is real will he emerge within the field of polotics? also, wat of the three 666 symbol. someone at my job has them on his thigh. he claims to be born with them.

I've seen the original.  I believe the reference to the Jackal goes back to Egyptian Mythology; Anubis was a god of the dead and was depicted as a man with a Jackal's head.  Thus the Jackal symbolizes death, although Anubis was not evil.

Many people believe that Satan or the Anti-Christ will appear through politics.  It is believed that the 'false prophet' will turn people astray before the real messiah returns.  There is also talk of the "Blue Turbin" which some people relate to Barack Obama because he is Arabic (way more so than Black).  However, nobody knows exactly for sure when and where this supposed Anti-Christ will appear, but we are given symbols to look for, such as, the unification of all nations under one government and monetary value (which some believe the Euro is a representation of this or the beginning of this).

666 was supposedly revealed to the Apostle John in a vision which he recorded as Revelation in the New Testament.  It is supposed to be 'the mark of the beast' and represents the Devil.  I have also read that some people think it's been translated wrong and it is actually 616 (which is my area code ironically).  I for some unknown reason have wondered if it was 999, since dreams and visions are often backwards, so are mirrors and your eyes.

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Brandon,

I know who Vlad Tepes is. I was born in Transylvania or Ardeal how we call it over there.
He is our national hero and one of the men I admired when I was a child. A lot that has been said and written about him are concoctions of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He was a stake in .. 'certain' plans.

The countries making up the great Romania (which is the same as Dacia when was conquered by the Romans) was divided ans shared between the great powers at the time. It was the dream and passionate desire of the people to unite officially and become whole again. All people speaking the same language!! - ...on such a large spread of land people speaking the same language.

Transylvania was at the time under the Austro-Hungarian Empire - do you think they would have like to let that go?!?

Dracul literary in Romanian means Devil. It is also a name that is freely given to everybody that is "VERY SMART". So, in many ways when someone tells you in Romanian: "you are the Devil" it can actually be a high compliment. All the Great Romanian leaders that 'achieved' something for the country were "very smart". Vlad was one of the smartest to ever walk on Earth - his discernment of politics and historical comjuncture helped him achieve great things in the face of all adversity and unfavourable conditions. 


To compare him with Hitler is a great offence addressed to a whole nation. Hitler went on a conquering rampage, and had "strange spiritual ideas" ... (research Vril, Hitler and The Coming Race ..to see what I mean) -

Vlad Tepes was nothing like that. He was a just, filled with integrity person, of high values. His strength of character inspired many... it helped us also endure the dark communist times. He loved his people and gave everything he had for them, even his freedom.

He was imprisoned for 10 years in a small dark stone cell by those who swore allegiance with him to unite and resist the Ottoman Empire invasion. He even knew when he walked in the trap set to him what will happen... he did it so because thus his people would have a chance to survive and go on.. He never actually impelled a whole village - that is a lie! he impelled, thieves, murderers, criminals that were ready to give up their ways. And he did impel invading Turks and the nobility that sold the country.


From all the historical records Vlad Tepes never went back on his word or a promise, yet it seems such values meant little compared to the power sought by the scheming lords at those times.

You have an understanding then you are betrayed ..for material gains. Vlad Tepes lived a life void of luxuries, unlike the lords that disapproved of him and started spreading gruesome stories in order to create hate towards him. 

While 1/2 of Europe died of bubonic plaque, Romanians survived as a result of strict hygiene introduced by Vlad and thus habits preserved over the generations. In his times there were no robberies, ..if someone would lose a bag of money they would find it in same place even 1 week after!! People were finally walking, sleeping having happy fearless lives because nobody would dare commit crimes during his reign. Good and kind people had a chance to survive..
And I could go on writing many pages of all the great things and advances made in educating the base people in his times.

Romanians are not capable of violence, if you look up history they never went to fight, conquer etc other nations..all they did was keeping the 'gate' to the invasion of Europe. They faced the Huns, the Turkish Empire and Vatican is lucky because those people were there wanting nothing else but to be left alone on their lands, to their lives and families.  Even Romanian men at times they can be real a%^&*holes but of true Evil and violence they are not capable.

We believe that the truth was preserved in the folk tales or stories transmitted from generation to generation. 

Vlad come to rule and to lead his people to independence and freedom.
"The impelling" same as the the "death on the cross" is actually a procedure a show meant to instil the greatest fear. Is it right? of course not however in the 14-15th Century, Europe was in dark ages - do I have to mention how the English noblemen used to amuse themselves, and I would not even want to go into the Inquisition's ways... needless to say those were such times where Evil was fought with Evil. When you have an army of 8.000 Romanian peasants equipped with wood sticks against the Ottoman army of thousands well armed people.. what chances would anyone have?? yet Romanian were able to keep invaders at bay with 'tricky' and smart means. Remember Turks advancing had the vicious pleasure of using their curved blades to open the belies of pregnant women and amuse themselves with the wriggling babies ... hand up little boys and use them as arrow targets etc... I don't even want to continue, however!! is impelling a few enemies to scare the ^$&^ out of them - in the face of such atrocities justified??


I have to end here .. I am not angry.. I am just passionate about this.

My child chosen name was Vlad Munteanu - (Munteanu means of the mountains) - it was a fashion where we all chose a name for ourselves.


Oh, and yes Hollywood banked a lot on Dracula story.  And a lot of so called 'experts' wrote stories that are very far from truth.

There are no vampires in Transylvania I grew up, and never been!!!


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[TheBaron]

I appreciate your in put.  Vlad is a character that I have found very fascinating, and I meant no offense.  As far as 'justifying' his demeanor, I am the last person you need to do that to.  I am fully aware of the way things work and am very rigid when it comes to politics and discipline, some would even say heartless.  However, I was merely stating a common belief, of course there is no Historical Documentation of Vlad being the devil, a demon, or possessed by anything evil.  I'm sorry that what people think of Vlad III offends you and your country; guess what, 99% of what Americans do offends other countries.  I personally think Hitler was a genius and my favorite general is Erwin Rommell.  I'm also a Manfred Von Richthofen (the red baron) fan.  I've studied many cultures, the Japanese, Spartans, Trojans, Chinese, Egyptian, etc etc and none of them are any better than Vlad or even Hitler.  Hitler was publicized.  What of the Roman conquest?  What of the Huns, the Mors, the Persians?  People kill people, that's life, and... population control.

Much Love,
Brandon

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Brandon,

I wasn't justifying Vlad Tepes in retrospect any form of violence is never justified. Evil and Good are opposites of same polarity.
Oh, and Romanians could not care less about Vlad I..II...III etc. (actually there was not Vlad I - that would be The Great Mircea he was AWESOME!!, Next was Vlad Dracul and then Vlad Tepes) - you will not find such numbered genealogy in Romanian history books, perhaps because traditionally they never believed in "inheritance" but just in that that each man makes his/her own life and fame - and rulers were the best example of it. Traditionally 'the best for his people' would be chosen as a king or leader... genealogical succession was a thing imposed by the Europe powers...

anyway,

I was merely trying to fix your image about the situation.

I agree about the military geniuses of all those cultures and characters you have studied, however their strategy was aimed at 'stealing that which was not theirs'.

Romans, Turks, Germans, French, etc.. situation is that of establishing themselves as world powers at the time, with obvious materialistic gains.  The difference between all those that you have mentioned and Vlad is in that he never aimed for conquest or other nations and neither he harbored wars against them. Whatever happened happened for one and only reason: freedom for his people, a country, place where simple free people could live their lives in peace.

Many gruesome stories have been written about him by other nations, it was a fascinating topic, however most of them were made on purpose to spread his news of his terror in order to scare the attackers. Nothing works better than fear I suppose .

Here is a link to a movie about his life http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141966/  you can read the comment.

What can I say? I personally consider myself very lucky that my consciousness as I know it was not incarnated in those times, although a lot certain 'vibes' resonate in me and I assume is part of my Higher Self. If I know something for sure is that my Higher Self doesn't resonate with conquests and expansions. I have a very good friend and he is also taken with the military genius of the WWII  and others and he talks about creating order in the world by eliminating all those that are Evil - I tell him that by doing that he will not solve anything and..we have a lot of exchanges about such things, and when he talks about taking up weapons I tell him is far more effective spreading flowers and loving thoughts. He calls me his Bene-Geserit ..lol... And one time he compared me to a gypsy, in his mind was a compliment little does he knows that to Romanians that's the highest insult you can bring to them (ha ha ha ha).

Brandon I am not offended, although I was born in Romania and lived there my first 25 years I always felt as being more that that, after I come to Canada I resonate better with this place mentaly, but in the end I don't think I have any nationality or belong to any country. I belong only to humanity.
Also I am not rigid, I like to look at thinks from all perspectives, but nothing really shakes me while everything moves me. Heroism, integrity, loyalty, sacrifice for a higher purpose, military genius maneuvers in protecting the innocent, dedication to raising people's consciousness, supreme understanding, unconditional love... these are the things that move me.




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[TheBaron]

I have heard two other stories through the grapevine or whatever that I find much more fascinating about Vlad.  The first goes something similar to:

Some traveling merchants were traveling through Vlad's hometown.  When they came through Vlad told them to come to his palace for dinner.  They asked him what they should do with their carriage and Vlad told them to just leave it there and he gave them his word that nothing would come missing.  The merchants went to dinner, had a wonderful time, and upon returning to their carriage found their money purse missing.  They went back to Vlad and told them of their misfortune and he asked them how much was in the bag and that he would repay them.  The merchants told him how much was in there (I don't remember the exact amount) and Vlad produced their coin purse and gave it back to them.  He then told them that he had his guards take the purse to test them and if they had told him one coin more than they would have been impaled, but since they had told the truth they were free to go. 

The other story is that Vlad had invited a group of nobles over for dinner.  He had a table set up in his courtyard, where he used to impale people.  At dinner one of the merchants complained about the stench so Vlad had him impaled on his highest pike so that the noble could be higher than everyone else.

These stories of course are myths, no different than Jesus stories or King Arthur stories, but they are fun and in a twisted sense teach morality, just like all other myths.  That's really all a myth is designed to do.  The more interesting the story the more people will pay attention to it the more likely they'll take away it's morality.

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Brandon,

I have also read the first story however the 2nd one has more details and it goes like this:
the man that complained, did so because Vlad also had all kind of other people at the table: merchants, peasants, etc. and the noblemen thought they are higher than other social classes and therefore it was an insult to them to sit at the table with the so called lower classes.

To Vlad nobody was higher than others and he valued all people equally and this is one of the reason why he won the hearts of the simple people.

The nobleman was 'sarcastic' referring to the fact that the lower classes are dirty, filthy, therefore not worthy to sit at the table of noblemen. ..of course there was no stench, the simple people were always very clean
Vlad had short patience for wisecracks and insults - and he did a lot of 'noblemen' impelling as he was appalled at the fact that they used their status for material gains as opposed to being of service to the country, so in his Mind he was doing some 'housecleaning'. He was not the only one to employ this method, other rulers did it before and after him, (other ..methods though  ), and that was mostly because the noblemen with their attitude would be very harmful to the population.

In those times the upper class thought of themselves as superior and would treat their subjects worse than animals, in the other Romanian countries these people were considered almost as slaves - they were 'bound' to the lands of the lords and subject to the Lord mercy in terms of food shelter etc.. even if they were the ones doing all the work. Because of their excesses (money for leisure times in Venice etc..) the country would suffer: i.e. out of poverty people would get sick, die, and the noblemen were to obtuse to see that they were actually hurting themselves by exploiting people so badly. They would simply not see that the common people were the ones making life prosper, and therefore more important as value than the upper Class. So, all the great leaders stressed the fact that being a nobleman was in fact a position of responsibility to the country and masses and not just a title rank to serve the ego.

(Transylvanians on the other hand were always free ever since Roman occupation, the mountains gave them the shelter and means to own their lives. )

You can look at Vlad as at the Spartans if you wish, like King Leonidas, if you have seen the movie 300 ... to his people, Vlad was an hero, to the rest of the world ...well I guess they made of him what suited them.


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[Goonie]

so the devil doesnt exist and there is no such thing as hell. so if i was to descide to do bad things and people tell me that i will burn in, i can tell them their wrong cause hell does not exist?

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Goonie,

If you decide to do bad thing you will 'burn' for sure, and yes hell and devil exists haven't you read what we discussed here?!? Just not in the way they were simplistically explained for centuries.

Evil are low energy vibrations of your mind and Hell is the plane where those low energy vibrations will take you - until you learn to raise in the vibrations of unconditional love.

The whole concepts however are meant to take people to a new level of understanding on how the Laws of the Universe works. So let's say you kill someone or steal something, lie, etc... and you do not have the power to 'see' on how harmful these actions and above all way of thinking, are you will end up in the Astral Plane populated with like people: killing themselves, torturing and doing all those bad things over and over in a maddening cycle - trust me is pretty bad!!!
And like Adrian said is much easier to make the necessary adjustments here in the physical to learn to live in vibrations of pure love, thus evolving through your will and determination. In so to speak hell, or respective astral dimensions things seem eternal.

Do not think for one second that any of your thoughts will go unaccounted for. Everything that you think and do matters big time.


I hope this helps.


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[TheBaron]

Hell exists within the mind.  Does this mean I'm contradicting the teachings of the former?  Well point to your mind.  Where is it?  The conscious exists in a manner not fully comprehended. 

It is obvious that we can think far past the limits of what we can physically do and most Occultists and Physicists would say that the 'mind' or 'conscious' can exist outside of the body.  If the mind is a part of the soul and the soul governs our spiritual body then it is safe to say that the mind can effect the spiritual body in any way, shape or form.  Therefore your spirit body or astral body is at the whim of your conscious and you are a prisoner to your own sentience.  This could explain how one after death could experience a 'hell-like' state or even purgatory as is believed more by spiritualists.

Some people also believe that our souls are ever evolving, in a wheel of reincarnation and the only way to break that wheel is by becoming 'enlightened.'  At that point you will end up reaching Nirvana or the Summerland (Heaven, Elysium Fields, what ever you might call it).  If you are not enlightened, then you are forced to live again and again.  To some this is considered hell and is the hell you will pay for being a lost soul (bad in nature).

Some people also believe that in between lives your soul gets a 'rest' per say, where the individual can reflect on it's life and the lives before.  This individual can also then 'map out' it's next location.  These same people believe that a soul that has not lived a righteous and just life will not have this break from reincarnation and will be forced to instantly reincarnate as soon as they die. 

These of course are all theories and/or marvelous concepts.

What is true, as much as anything can be, that we are all made of energy.  Energy is constantly vibrating and this vibration creates a gravitational pull.  Due to this gravitational pull other energy is drawn in.

Energy that is similar to the initial energy has an even greater magnetic draw and more quantities of that energy will then find itself to the individual or object.  This is how you end up with pools of water, clouds and bubbles of gases. 

On top of all of this, there is the psychological standpoint (which also relates to energy). 

If you are a 'negative' person, you will push away 'positive' people.  Nobody wants to be around a troublemaker unless they are one themselves.  So next thing you know, when you're a 'bad' person, all the people around you are also 'bad' people.  Because you are surrounded by 'bad' people with a lack of moral conscious, they do not 'care' about you and often times will willingly harm you for their own benefit. 

Therefore, the chances of 'bad' or 'ill-luck' finding it's way to you is much more likely.  The 'what goes around comes around' saying in a sense.  Also, in a morally stable world or one run by a government, priests and monks aren't 'disciplined' or 'harmed' but the robbers and murderers are.  Why?  Because they attract negative action towards themselves, even the negative actions of positive people.

Sorry, that was kind of thick.  Hope this helps.

[Freedom]

Dear Goonie
what Laura said is true. and maybe you should go to Astralpulse forums, ( which are Adrians), I think they will have lots of answers there.

Dear Laura,

Now I am so fascinated by Vlad. In the west, all we are told is he is a vampire. Not a clue about he is a hero in Romania, and everything he did, as in never invading other countries, just doing what he must to protect his own.

Well, he sounds great to me!
I am glad you told us about him.
 
Love 

ps, baron, Large paragraphs hurt my eyes. Lots of people cant read well on computers, such as me,
so a lot of spaces would be much appreciated.

I know lots will just say ; "no way, I cant read that", which is not an insult, but reading on a screen is a lot harder than just reading on paper.

I didnt read what you wrote, but I tried to skim through it, seems good stuff.

Please know this is written with best intent.

Love   

[TheBaron]

ps, baron, Large paragraphs hurt my eyes. Lots of people cant read well on computers, such as me,
so a lot of spaces would be much appreciated.

I know lots will just say ; "no way, I cant read that", which is not an insult, but reading on a screen is a lot harder than just reading on paper.

I didnt read what you wrote, but I tried to skim through it, seems good stuff.

Please know this is written with best intent.

Love   

There I tried breaking it up a little bit.  It's something I'm working on.  Laura already gives me a hard time for it so it's okay.  Hope this helps, if I need to write even smaller paragraphs let me know.

Another thing that might help is changing the background colors and font colors... perhaps I'll have to play with this.

[Freedom]

Dear Brandon

Thanks heaps!

It makes a huge difference, reading is much easier now.

So, in a way, you are saying 'Like attracts Like'...

Think positive and treat bad experiences as a matrix/stage..

Anyway , I am super tired now.

Thanks

Love 

[Mina-Laura]

Dear All,

My friend sent me a bunch of Romanian jokes - I did my best to come up with best translation to one I believe belongs in this thread:


Two friends meet:
-   Why you have a black eye?
-   Well I went to my in-laws yesterday for dinner
-   So?
-   Well as we were getting ready to sit at the table and say the blessing prayer I made the mistake to look at my Mom-in-Law right at the verse: “and deliver us from Evil”.   







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