Rhetorical Rambling or Normal Insanity!

[Talker]

Conversations between speakers requires a basic understanding of applied nuances. Throw in  the body language of eyes, tonal inflection, and hand motions, it's a wonder that any comprehension takes place.
Have long been aware of the idiosyncrasies, idioms, strictures, subtlety,and succinctness that can make for gentle confusion. Never bothered to toss them into a grouping for future refernce. Some others did do just that. There are many more of course. Even the simple 'I love you too', takes on various meaning, depending on how applied.
Be Well

(Female usage)

(1) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up.

(2) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

(3) Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.

(4) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!

(5) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of nothing.)

(6) That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

(7) Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just say you're welcome. (I want to add in a clause here - This is true, unless she says 'Thanks a lot' - that is PURE sarcasm and she is not thanking you at all. DO NOT say 'you're welcome'. that will bring on a 'whatever').

( Whatever: Is a woman's way of saying F-- YOU!

(9) Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's wrong?' For the woman's response refer to # 3.
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(Male usage)

1. Fine: Depends heavily on the context. A 'fine' after asking, say, "How was work?", means "It was f***ed, I'm not interested in talking about it". Fine at the end of an argument, however, has the same connotations as when a woman would use it, but it is USUALLY SHOUTED LIKE THIS because us men have trouble using an inside voice when we're angry.

2. Five minutes: What is he doing? Videogames? Five minutes is about half an hour then, or until he finds the ever elusive 'next save point'. Getting ready for sex? Five minutes is two minutes. Preparing to leave? Five minutes means five minutes, and if you're not in the car in exactly five minutes you will find yourself under a veritable barrage of honking until you rectify the fact.

3. Nothing: Is largely a synonym for 'fine', though more resolute. A 'fine' can be challenged, a 'nothing' is completely off limits, and rather than signaling that an argument is forth coming, it should tell any man-savvy woman that whatever is wrong is not up for discussion with her, her mother, or anyone she is related to. Full stop. Period.

4.Go ahead: "I'm not interested in arguing with you anymore, do whatever the hell you want. See if I care!" Often accompanied by a #1.

5.Loud sigh: Sometimes with a curse, like 'J***s Ch***t' or 'F**king hell', this is a sign of frustration, and means, basically, "I so don't understand the issue here, what is she still pissed about? My conclusive rebuttals weren't enough for her?"

6.That's okay: This is a sign of disappointment. If a dude tells you 'that's okay' after you've just admitted something, it means his respect for you has taken a free fall and he's not sure what to say that won't insult you, despite his current feelings. If a guy is saying 'that's okay' a lot, you should examine your patterns and find out why.

7.Thanks: This depends largely on the context and intonation. Like eels and shotguns, 'thanks' is a slippery beast and by no means can be explained in one dot point. So I won't.

8. Whatever: "I'm over it. I'm not interested in arguing. I still think I'm right, but you know what? You don't, and I'm beyond caring. F**k you." That's what 'whatever' means.

9.Don't worry about it, I got it: This isn't often used by men, but when uttered it holds the same connotations as "Stop asking if I need help, I am a MAN, I am more than capable of handling this shit myself". Women often challenge this, which can result in a #4 #5 combo, or, worse, a #1 followed up by an #8.

[Talker]

Ah yes, those 'little' inconsequential' things that 'hurt or please', and set or reset ones internal filters. No intent to cause harm to any, yet these filters become foundational building beliefs. So, if you've ever wondered about certain feelings that arise at times, they could be a blend of long forgotten 'energy inputs', now showing through your own personal filters.
Now I won't detail everything.
Do want you to 'see' it.

Lets look at a few made up examples:

Smiling and glowing face on the young one, having just helped ma, by making up the bed.
(ma, of course is busy and in a rush to get on with the day, rapidly and efficiently pulls the sheets and blankets even, smooths out the wrinkles, and off she goes.
(Young one just stands there in near tears)

Smiling and glowing face on the young one, after a serious picture drawing effort, shows the picture to pa, who is, of course watching a basketball game. 'Look pa, at my nice doggies picture', the the young one yells out. Pa is annoyed, 'shh, shh, quite down, I'll look at it later'.
(Young one just stands there in near tears)

Sad faced young one is crying and mentions to older brother, 'look that car ran over a cat, and it's mewing in pain'. Older brother, mind on an upcoming ball game, just says, 'come on I got to get home and ready for my game'.
(Young one just stands there in near tears)

(This one is true)
Young ones are saying they are hungry for some 'nibble' food, while enjoying a 'no particular place to go' afternoon car ride. Stop in front of a grocery store, hand $5.00 to young son, stating 'buy some apples an oranges for us'. Big smile, comes back with a bag of fruit, while waving some money in his hand.  There is a five and a one dollar bill, plus the bag of fruit. Oh oh. Son inquires 'what should I do, dad'! Dad asks, 'What do you think should be done!'. Son smiles and says 'give it back'.  Dad now smiles. Son proudly walks back into the store. Few moments later, son comes back, tears flowing. Dad is ready for action. 'What happened son ?'. Son says 'I told the man he had made a mistake with the change he had given me, and the man screamed at me saying 'we don't make mistakes here'. Dad says, 'you made an honest effort to return the extra money, and they refused to hear you out, so that extra change is honestly yours'.
(son wipes away tears and then gets a big smile on his face)

(This one is true also)
Out of respect son holds open door for approaching lady. Lady loudly proclaims ' I don't need help from anyone'.
(son stands there stunned)

(This one is also true )
We are out for a walk, young daughter asks for an ice cream cone. Money in hand, daughter marches toward store, where a man with 'no legs' is sitting on the sidewalk by the store entrance, his hat by his legs. Daughter slows down her walk, drops the coins she has into the legless mans hat, twirls around, walks back and grabs my hand and says nothing, but is wearing a sweet smile.
(of course at the next store, she was given another coin)

So we see 'filters' at work here.
I've been privileged to see how they 'set' up those 'prior' filters.

What is your story!
Be Well

[juliainkc]

Dear Talker,

In reading your wonderful thoughts expressing here, bells tinging in recall of some shared events.

I won't so much add to this, I just loved reading it!

This is an excellent example of reaping what one sows truly... it shows that you 'invested' wisely in your 'seed' as you observed your seedlings growing.

Sharing from one's life experience is like planting seeds, watering and bearing harvest for me.

Thank you Talker, I appreciate you always.

InJoy this day.

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[Talker]

Aww i remember hearin about this and this is wat i was talkin about wen i said i want a method that could heal all things in one shot rather then focus on healing things individual. the energy cycles thru the body and fixes everything. it goes were it is most needed the most, so i hear, but it will heal the whole body, bring it back to its original position.

thanks way u hav came the closest to wat i was lookin for inb healin factor. maybe it can healp?

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Goonie I ordered the book and a DVD workshop package thingy. Actually I am not really sure what I bought, lolz! I'll learn all I can about this Quantum Touch because it impressed me. I'll tell you if it works or not.

In the mean time you stick with the Science of Being! You must learn Perseverance while you're still young. The Science of being has a lot to teach you.

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Dear Praveen,

There is absolutely no such thing as an incurable disease. Adrian in no way believes that Cancer is incurable, quite the opposite. Even Diabetes can be cured.

There is no contradiction. Anytime someone becomes ill it is because of bad Karma. Anytime someone becomes healed it is because of good Karma.

True Healers help others heal themselves.

True healing comes from within.

People make themselves Ill and people make themselves Well.

All that is done can be undone, that is the way of Manifestation.

It is the Quantum way.

In Peace and Health, Louis

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Hi guys a friend of mine gave me a crystal and oils to use to my chakra.
But I dont know how to meditate them. Any body have a advice. I will appreciate..Thank you

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Hi, chakra, Louis, Praveen, Goonie, wavepsychic and All,

Rather than endeavor to give individual responses here, have gathered four posts that fall into a similar category, response wise.

So just sharing my thoughts, with no intent to ruffle feelings, or seem negative.

Goodness, this takes me back to another era of time, regards life experiences. My period of absolute ignorance, in many esoteric disciplines, that became a 'seek and winnow' period, that still continues to this day.
Chakra, there is much left out here in your question, that highly limits any type of reasonable response.
First off, do you meditate at all!
If yes, how long a period, in weeks, months or years!
If no, suggest you develop a meditation routine first.
Once a meditation routine is established, expand into crystals and oils, which by nature is highly personal for each and every person.

Goonie, your looking for a 'Magical' button, that may or may not show up in your life time, as it is highly unusual for 'methods' such as you are asking for to materialize out of the blue. Not that it can't, mind you, just that the proper maturation or germinant period is being overlooked. Frustrating it can be, yet if your 'miracle' process hasn't yet appeared, focus on one process and stick with it for at least six or so months, and see what takes place.

Wave, Quantum Touch does work. For some and as you stated, 'bones can move', but not for all applying QT.  Same with Huna 'instant bone healing', it supposedly has been verified as happening, but not for all endeavoring to perform Huna 'instant bone healing'. Must every action result in headline news!  If any 'betterment' occurs with any given method or process, isn't that a successful action!

Praveen, little healing miracle, big healing miracle, is not at issue, that any healing, even takes place under any set of circumstances, is to me, miraculous.

Working the so called 'law of attraction', performing any healing or corrective methods, or praying for world harmony, all require some prior effort in preparation, and prior to the action being applied.

Some basics apply with every action, be it healing efforts, chakra routines, use of crystals and oils, or in obtaining material gains.

So lets look at the situation here.
If a method or process isn't working for you, maybe a slight modification of action being used is all that's required. Maybe the mental aspect of clarifying ones intent for doing an action is required. Could be that one is 'thinking' a solution that just can't work as currently thought. Clarify the intent, not the 'how it's to be done', leave that for Source to apply.

Consider that a 'weak or so so method' applied with vigor, faith, belief, passion, zeal, and conviction, can 'work' wonders, while a 'hot sure thing method' applied in a 'doubtful' manner will generally result in disappointment.

How can Source assist and grant, if one has no basically 'clear' intent and focus, with ones desired results changing every few days! Why keep uprooting the 'planted seed' every day! Only means that the original 'intent' was not planted with 'faith and belief' the first place.

Go inside, deep, and inquire, 'is what I'm endeavoring to obtain and experience actually good for me!' If no clear answer comes up, best to move on to the next experience action question, on the list of desires.

Ah yes rambling on.
Be Well

[juliainkc]

Hello Beloved Talker and All Beloved Ones,

Such wise, wise words being shared here truly. Much depth in this sharing to consider deeply.

While learning to walk, one falls many times, do we just sit there and never attempt to rise up and keep going? Just picture what this world would look like if this were so. Talker, I love the analogy here of planting a seed and then one keeps digging it up to see if it is growing. This hinders, slows down the process. Trust that the seed is doing what it does naturally. Trust is a key here. And not seeing results immediately for me throughout the years grew this Trust, roots going deeper into the soil to give strong anchor to this ones Faith.

So, Thank you once again Talker from this child, your Inspiration streams through for children of all ages.

Here is a short video on radish seeds evolving. Note what is established first as the seed opens, the underground roots before ever seeing the plant pop through the ground. Faith is growing in Trust that all is working for us even behind the scenes.

Growing strong roots along with you all,


InJoy a class in Gardening 101,


Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d26AhcKeEbE

[Kadensnga]

Hello Beloved Julia and Talker,

Thank you Talker for expressing my soul in words that only a more seasoned veteran of "seeking" could muster.

Truly, if you look at the Christian world...  bones are healed, and eyesight is given back...INSTANTLY... in many , many cases. Because they focus on healing through "ONE TECHNIQUE" (the "laying on of hands"...).

In their mind this is the "only" technique, and so; many have come to master over years.

Does this mean the christian religion is the truth ? Only if you believe everything you see (blessed is he who believes without seeing). What I see is a group of people who give alot of collective consciousness to one aspect of miracles... and thusly many have mastered it through the years, as YOU say "have you tried it for a week, a month? Years..."?

Still not ALL master it , only the ones who have devoted themselves to that technique, and surely they failed daily along the way. Still many have yet to find their way to the healing dimension in the christian world, even though all have seen and believe. Many are still practicing, and practicing the "wrong way" until they find "A" right one.

In other thoughts,

I echo Julia in saying I love this "Why keep digging your seed up out of the ground"...starting the whole process over daily and never allowing the season of sowing an reaping to do it's perfect work?

Still some will say, this is a cop out... but there is a season of sowing and a season of reaping... you cant keep ripping your seeds out of the ground all the time, or they will remain seeds and never grow.

Even in the area of miraculous healings...nature must do its perfect work and mastury is achieved in the process of nurturing the seed.

Even becoming a "doctor" takes 8-10 years of nurturing and mastery...the nurturing season is "nature" it is how things work... though some quantum leap, most do not. Beethoven played piano like a master the first time he sat down .... somehow, but it took me 5 years just to learn the "FUNDAMENTALS..."

We both play it though. Somehow, he quantum leaped, and I somehow think he himself wouldn't even be able to tell you how it happened, surely through some natural process that we don't understand.

In any event it is the exception which should perhaps be the rule, but we haven't figured out how it becomes a rule yet. I suppose the music world is still in nurturing phase for that concept.

I didn't need to understand, only wanted to play and stayed focused on that...for years.

Thank you for the wonderful video clip Julia.

Namaste and good morning to all.

Love,
John

A vocal coach once told me "Practice does not make perfect" because you can practice bad habits and get very good at them, only "perfect practice" makes perfect. Achieving "perfect practice" in and of itself is a journey.

At some point we stop 'seeking answers" and we rather 'become" the answer. That is soul talk there from the gut. At some point we stop playing in the science lab, and begin to pursue even higher ideals than the "tricks" of the trade... acceptance and "being okay"... instead of seeking for "okay-ness".

Then we exist in a state of "okay-ness" naturally.

[Talker]

Hello juliainkc and Kadensnga,

Thank you both for the kind thoughts.

Julia, the radish seeds video, took me back to a time, that I performed my own experiments along the same lines. As 'wisps of truths' overcame the 'clouds of doubt and confusion', numerous little experiments were performed to validate my 'new' thoughts. Ah yes, the validating of the Masters words, 'these things that I do' was a 'needle under the fingernail' for me. The 'fine' hairs that form with newly planted seeds, are like my little 'wisps of truths' that take root and if paid attention to, lead to greater and more profound truths. Here is where one encounters a winnowing of vacillating beliefs that shake ones original core beliefs. Many were the deep and pleading requests to the Holy Spirit for clarification of tangled thoughts. Oh yes, had already come to believe that there was such a thing as the Holy Spirit, and yes, still call upon it for guidance, when the yo-yo of doubt slips in and dark clouds need brightening.

John, many are the wounds and inner tears, when efforts to assist another, seemingly fail to materialize. Only upon reading that there are a few instances, where the bible mentions that even Jesus encountered problems with healing, did any semblance of understanding filter through, into my thick skull. At least now, I no longer wrestle with those seemingly failed healing endeavors. It's no longer a mystery to me, but by no means, does it mean that  I fully understand it all. Just that I no longer take it all as a personal failure on my part. Ego was still at work those times, with the nasty nagging at that time. While not yet perfected to my satisfaction, do have Ego well in hand, and with a good 'conscious' relationship in the making. Words on the Ego, and the 'stilling' of Ego, is a big subject that meets all kinds of 'pro and cons', and that 'I differ from, in how I view the ego', and that I won't discuss it here at the moment.
Be Well

[Kadensnga]

Thank you Talker,

Once again your words are timely and appropriate. You have read me, and I appreciate that. You are right, there were places where, and people with whom Jesus could perform no miracles. It's always so nice to be understood.

Filled with warm feelings from your graceful and perfect words.

John

[Talker]

Well now, tossing out some thoughts here. There are some new members coming into the forum, (along with those currently posting) that mention certain ills and physical discomforts.

Is this the time to expand the practice, that is the overall theme of this forum!
The healing of the physical and spiritual aspect of our being.
              ...............................

Considering:(KJV Matt 18:20)
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
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Such a project could well be beyond the capability of this forum, in it's current mode. Believe me, a project like mentioned is costly and labor intensive. Privacy concerns and timely response's are heavy weights to shoulder.

While I do apply certain measures of sending remote healing energy, there are those that require far more than I can muster alone at this time. Is as the bible quote states, the gathering of  two or three, to amplify that healing power. Yes, mind is the basis of all healing works, yet there are those that are still infants, so to speak, in the learning curve of 'doing' it for themselves. No blame assigned, just is a fact of our existence.

Maybe is a way, with a project of such nature, that can keep it simple, that I for one, at this moment, just am not seeing.
Perhap's in Adrian's upcoming project there are provisions of this nature. Time will tell.
Nothing official, but for now, at least worth giving it a thought.
Ponder it, and lets see what, if anything, comes of it.
Be Well

[Kadensnga]

Interesting Talker,

I was just thinking last night that we could collectively make a decision to hold each others concerned areas in the light specifically on a collective level, and send unison vibes simultaneously to a persons situation... and we could heal one anothers issues by sending such a powerful pin pointed collective force to the wounded area.

Just a thought.

Namaste. It has been a good day to work arm and arm with you in the universal Garden wise leader.

John

[Kadensnga]

Another thought Talker, if you dont mind.

What if such a project could be self supporting to some degree and exist on a basis of free will donations like a church does?
Supported by the members of the community who benefit?

Not to profit, but to maintain and expand upon the "ministry" so to speak.

Just a thought.

Nurturing your seed a bit with you.

If one could finance a project through freewill of giving... that is so much better than selling something for profit... it is more trusting of the universe, and just beautiful giving and recieving... less "trading".

[zensunni7]

Talker
Your thoughts are a step back into time, and I think often of the feelings of those times, not the dialogues and dogma's. The word for the missing element is Sacred. Knowing the feeling of true Sacredness.
There are pivotal moments know into the present because of their effect of feeling eternal. removing your perception of dimension of your reality, the walls of your beliefs recede as the ocean before a Tsunami. That extraordinary feeling of awe and power so great - your Humanness
scrambles to stay within the experience Yet your totally absorbed within it. You feel its aliveness as your own.
This is Sacred to me. I know its feeling, its touch, I know its feelings as my own.  In church I did not feel this empathic experiences. Yet within the cloistered walls of religious education, I met Souls that emitted such powerful peace, they were rare even within so many decades within their religions of so many.
I was taught by a Nun that had lived in a cloistered sect of them, and emitted this energy. Her energy would turn the corner long before her presence - it was impossible to feel anything negative in her presence. She introduced me to Sacred, what it was, looked like, felt like, and the power of it when being channeled through the single point of a Human Being. Within the Universe, we are relatively and truly  zero points of energy from Source.

Sacred Love, the experience of the Nun - Maria - being the center of many , where everyone felt as she did when in her presence. I see her now as a Sacred empathic.
It is not that these words need be applied to new sciences and new pragmatic experience, only that the power remains constant.As a Mantra used across centuries, containing all those that used it, it is a ball in the Universe of conscious thoughts and feelings, it is the meditator's them Selves.
Sacred, reverence, these are vehicles that transport us to the center of Source. It is also the preferred doorway of Source.

[Mina-Laura]

Well now, tossing out some thoughts here. There are some new members coming into the forum, (along with those currently posting) that mention certain ills and physical discomforts.

Is this the time to expand the practice, that is the overall theme of this forum!
The healing of the physical and spiritual aspect of our being.              ...............................

Considering:(KJV Matt 18:20)
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
              ..................................

Such a project could well be beyond the capability of this forum, in it's current mode. Believe me, a project like mentioned is costly and labor intensive. Privacy concerns and timely response's are heavy weights to shoulder.

While I do apply certain measures of sending remote healing energy, there are those that require far more than I can muster alone at this time. Is as the bible quote states, the gathering of  two or three, to amplify that healing power. Yes, mind is the basis of all healing works, yet there are those that are still infants, so to speak, in the learning curve of 'doing' it for themselves. No blame assigned, just is a fact of our existence.

Maybe is a way, with a project of such nature, that can keep it simple, that I for one, at this moment, just am not seeing.
Perhap's in Adrian's upcoming project there are provisions of this nature. Time will tell.
Nothing official, but for now, at least worth giving it a thought.
Ponder it, and lets see what, if anything, comes of it.
Be Well

That is a great idea. I will have to go back and read as truth is there is just to much to read!! much more beyond my human time capacity.

Namaste

[Talker]

Thinking out loud here.
If there were a way to set up a unique 'anonymous" sign-in, that would apply 'ONLY to that specific topic', such as 'My Healing Request'. This would avoid the duplication of already registered members. This would by necessity need to be tied in, some way, to an 'already registered' member, but only for verification purposes, leaving no trail.  Otherwise, as has been my experience, all undesired types of posting would be encountered.

Would / should function, theoretically, some thing like this:

Any, clicking on and into 'My Healing Request',  would pop-up a window.
This window would request 'member sign-in name'.
Member signs in.
System verifies if member is registered.
If NO, a request and offer to allow person to register opens.
If YES, a window opens to allow posting as 'anonymous'.
One would enter the illness or difficulty (finances, habits, relationships, etc.).
Poster would need to choose a 'User number' for this specific post'.
System, would record and track only the 'User number'.
System would reject any 'already assigned user number'
Member would be responsible for recording the special 'User number' for  followup of to responses.
All access posts and comments to Database of 'User numbers and posts', would be through the already registered, and recorded 'User number'.

There may even be a program, of this nature, already in existence, but not aware of any.
Who would/could accomplish such programming, is another question!
If practical or not, is up for grabs.
If even allowed, the final decision, is not for me to make.
So, these are only my further thoughts, regards this topic.
Be Well

[Talker]

Was idly introspecting, and for some reason the kid games of decades ago popped up. Why, kid games creeping into memory, I ask! Hmmm, relates to what, comes another question!

Those long ago games played, brought back sweet and sour memories. Lost Aggie's and favored cats eye's, skinned knee's, missed ringers, holding still lest you are caught, bruised elbows and fingers, tall grass swaying a hit ball by the mallet, goodness, those were the days.

Hide and seek, Mother May I, Simon Says, Red Rover, Statue maker, Tag, Kick the Can, Jump Rope, Catch, Monkey in the Middle, Croque, Kickball, Hop Scotch, Marbles, Jacks, Horseshoes, badminton, are some of those memories. Along with listening for the 'call' to head home. Watching for and disliking the daylight to fade away or the street lights to turn on, meaning 'gotta run home, or I'll catch a scolding' for being late.

In came the thoughts, golly, those games were unrecognized training sessions on what one faces in life. The good times mixed in with those disappointment feelings of being the first one getting caught during hide and seek, loosing something of value (favored aggie), a Croque ball not getting where aimed for. The glorious sound of a Horseshoe clinking around the metal stake. Making all the through those makings for Hop Scotch. Ma, yelling at you for ruining a pair of shoe's that you had squashed cans on mightily, to stay on the thin soles. The dried blood from a stumble and landing onto glass .

Ah yes, the memories flowed. How, like in ones life experiences those game training sessions were, even though not recognized as such at the time.
We play our part, and act out the drama, that we call 'life experiences'. As with those childhood games, we pick up, emotions of, love it, hate it, fear it, it hurts, what should I do, how to hide, how to show it, confusion, sighs of relief, and a myriad of other feelings. Our life filters, being made, that took form deep within, albeit, unrecognized at the time, that make each and every one of us, a  very Special and Unique expression of God.
Are we hearing and expressing to the best of our ability to do so!
Be Well