Vibra
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« on: July 21, 2008, 09:01:15 » |
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I'm not sure where to post this so any help on this would be great!!! I among many others have always though my son to be "special". I'm told this even by strangers constantly. He draws special attention everywhere without even trying. Then again I'm a little bias him being my boy. My 8 year old son has been telling me he has visions of the future. He has been telling me this for roughly 1 year now. Without getting into me Ill give you a very brief history. I too had this among many other abilities as a child, but not quite like this. I was told to ignore them and suppress them which I did. They have recently returned and I'm trying to work with them. My son just told me he has the ability to have his other self leave his body and visit areas and talk to people who tell him of things to come. He told me he has lived before and remembers his past lives. I asked him if he can control it, He sad yes. I asked him to do it. He closed his eyes and got real still and quiet for a minute and said I just did it Daddy. I asked him if it hurt he said no but if feels real weird when he goes back into his body. My son basically has no idea about organized religion. Although he does know about God. We talked about death and what will happen during the change and he said good then Ill be with my other Self when I die. Anyone who knows an 8 year old boy, its like pulling teeth to get any info out of them. With this type of advanced Gift at such an early age, the thing I most do not want to do is suppress his ability. What direction do I go in? Does anyone know of any accepting avenues I can explore to help him understand and work with and not be afraid of his abilities? Please help Thanks for your reply
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 18:50:25 » |
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Dear Vibra, I'm not sure where to post this so any help on this would be great!!! I among many others have always though my son to be "special". I'm told this even by strangers constantly. He draws special attention everywhere without even trying. Then again I'm a little bias him being my boy. My 8 year old son has been telling me he has visions of the future. He has been telling me this for roughly 1 year now. Without getting into me Ill give you a very brief history. I too had this among many other abilities as a child, but not quite like this. I was told to ignore them and suppress them which I did. They have recently returned and I'm trying to work with them. My son just told me he has the ability to have his other self leave his body and visit areas and talk to people who tell him of things to come. He told me he has lived before and remembers his past lives. I asked him if he can control it, He sad yes. I asked him to do it. He closed his eyes and got real still and quiet for a minute and said I just did it Daddy. I asked him if it hurt he said no but if feels real weird when he goes back into his body. My son basically has no idea about organized religion. Although he does know about God. We talked about death and what will happen during the change and he said good then Ill be with my other Self when I die. Anyone who knows an 8 year old boy, its like pulling teeth to get any info out of them. With this type of advanced Gift at such an early age, the thing I most do not want to do is suppress his ability. What direction do I go in? Does anyone know of any accepting avenues I can explore to help him understand and work with and not be afraid of his abilities? Please help Thanks for your reply
You are doing the very best for your son by bringing this to our attention and it is a great show of Love on your part to understand his gifts. For the last 13 years or so I have been blessed to be the single parent of my own three sons now aged 17, 16 and 15 years, so I can definitely relate. My eldest speaks and behaves far beyond his years - studying the "big bang theory" at 4 years for example - and regarded as a hopeless case by teachers because he found school boring. You must first and foremost encourage his abilities which appear to include Clairvoyance, Astral Projection and Out of Body Experiences at will. I know others with these abilities but they are very rare. Someone I knew had similar abilities at the same age, and her mother had her baptised 7 times and was even considering an exorcism. I am sure many children are repressed in this way. Many children have these abilities up to age 4 and as late as 7, but after that parents, schools and society tell them to "quit imagining things" and imply their experiences are abnormal. When they come to believe that - so it is. The best approach is to speak to your son about his experiences in a completely matter of fact way, treating them as completely normal. Do not ask pointed questions as if you are extracting information, just have a chat about it like "by the way son - where did you travel to today in your other body and who did you meet?" It is crucial to treat the entire situation as completely normal which it both is and should be. The most difficult aspect is protecting him from schools, friends etc who may well give him a hard time, as well as telling him things that might destry his own belief in his abilities which he will then lose. I would tell him that it is best to keep these journeys between yourself and not mention them to anyone else because they might not understand like you do. Do not make him feel special because of these abilities. This is one major issue with the so called "Indigo children" which puts them at a huge disadvantage later in life, notwithstanding the doubtful nature of Indigo children in the first place. His abilities must be maintained in a totally normal context just as eating, sleeping and playing. I know it is a balancing act, especially with a child of that age, but believe me he will thank you for it later in life. You can always ask further questions here or email me if you prefer using the Contact page on the main Our Ultimate Reality website. And congratulations again for your enlightened approach and Love for your son. In Love and Light, Adrian.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 09:50:58 » |
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Dear Vibra,
The intro to this post on the boards reads " I really need some ass " LOL!!!
I bow to the heart wisdom you are expressing with your son. Your son is the new Human which the antiques like myself saw in our own vision. I have a child and grandchild with these ability's. Adrian's post to you is like minded with my own thoughts also. It is wise to express your interest and care to your son as if it was ability that is normal for a Human Being to possess and exhibit. I grew up in a world where these things were feared and shunned, side show entertainment, and my children in a world that was learning this ability in a more common atmosphere, yet still under the entertainment category of life - psychic fairs and such. Your son will learn to balance this within himself and your sharing of yourself and experience's will comfort him more than you know. He will as he matures draw more like minded to himself as we all have here. The projection thread I write in here is also presents a way of communicating to him without the e-motional interferences of everyday life and the stress of and the impending adolescence stage he is approaching physically. Meditation will also be of service to his peace of mind. But mostly letting him know he is loved as you are is his greatest comfort and road to acceptance his his ability. Encourage him to keep a journal also of his visions.
WithIn Love Darrell
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 13:37:27 » |
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Hello Dear Vibra,  I also appreciate the humor of our brother Darrell's mention. It is good to laugh while being centered. I had 'goosebumps' when I read your post. The responses are deeply in alignment with the Energy I am aligning with and sensing here. I encourage you first, that you are not alone. Sometimes the 'repression' of our natural abilities are allowing us to have an experience to apply 'later' the beyond what we see and know abilities. These abilities are never lost, only transformed. Alchemized to be used with purist intentions. Brought to their Highest Potential for the Highest Good (benefit) of All. I agree, that as you allow yourself to Be who you are Your Divine Nature and Abilities, you will enhance this experience with your son as was Divinely Intended. You are your son's father yes? H mm..No accidents or coincidence here as I see. Isn't it wonderful to know that you are with 'Family' here? Journaling and not making a big deal out of it by taking it in stride is wonderfully Insightful and Profound in it's Wise sharing. We are naturally this way. How wonderful that you are aware and have pre-determined to have this experience with your son. You chose him and he chose you. Thank you for reminding us all. Love WithIn Divine Spirit,' Julia
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Vibra
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 13:59:46 » |
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First off Thank you very much for your replies. I really need some Ass Oh my God LOL Adrian I love your book! It has brought me to a place in my life I currently needed for a long long time. Darrell your threads intrigue me as My grandmother used to to the projection to me and I know she still does. I believe she has given the gifts to my son. Without realizing it (until I read your posts) I have done this to my son. My Son has never had terrors or really been scared of much. He used to ask me what if the bad guys come. I told him to just take control of them andtell them he is not the one they want. I truly believe my sons vibrations are at a slightly (or more) higher frequency than most. He is the most caring, gentle person. He never ever has a bad thing to say about anything or anybody. Without getting into me. I have many of the same gifts as my son although not quite as advanced. He has been sharing with me his visions sightings and feelings on these subjects for roughly 1 year now. The latest one yesterday with at will projection and past life remembrances has really opened my eyes to I have a special child. The feelings/sensations he describes are ones only people who understand would understand. I opened the dialog and asked him to do his projection this morning on the ride to school. He got comfortable put his head back and went in what seemed to be a trance state. It was amazing to watch my totally active child know instinctively how to do this. I asked him what happened he said "It was too short to do much of anything daddy". I left it alone as to not give him an uneasy feeling of my prying. He says he has another "Jacob" up in heaven that he speaks to and visits. Do you know what this means? Tonight I have planned a make your own pizza party. We will make pizza and have a campfire. I know he wants to talk about his gifts and we will sit by the fire and learn of each others gifts together. We will put together a journal and begin recording his adventures. I do believe this will help him understand a little better that's it is more than OK to be himself and to not be afraid. I will keep you posted as to what transpires. Believe me this sight is great and it is so encouraging to know there are many of us out there and I believe many more to come. Thanks Vibra
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 17:08:16 » |
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Dear Vibra,
It is quite usual for projectors such as your son to meet with a Soul in the Astral who acts as their guide and teacher. Your son clearly has met just such a person. Very often in fact a guide is another aspect, or "personality" of the projector - i.e. both are aspects of the same Higher Self helping each other out - ultimately being the same individual.
Your approach to your sons gifts is excellent and absolutely correct. Encourage him, listen to him share his wonder and excitment and all will be well - and he will thank you in later years.
I receive messages from numerous people who would give anything for abilities such as your son has naturally. I am sure as he gets older he will develop these abilities and quite likely for a greater purpose.
Please keep us informed - and do ask any questions - we share your enthusiasm for the abilities of your son.
In Love and Light,
Adrian.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 22:53:35 » |
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Dear Vibra,
The pizza party sounds awesome. No matter what is happening, kids love beings kids, a lesson we could well learn from them as we grow older.
I am fully confident your son will find the way to integrate this into his life and your family with ease and purpose. I am also sure he will find himself surrounded with worthy friends and like minds. Yes, I agree this projection has been evolving from generation to generation as each member recognizing it developed it, and did not fear it.
Although much of these abilities are attributed to spiritual developments, it is also a logical evolving process for the mind to propel us away from the predatory human. We now live in the clutches of this species of human. From war to escalating economies creating an even greater degree of wealthy and controlling elite, this is the result of a very primal mind having achieve its status by oppression and subjugation of those in its path. There is no difference between taking over a country by controlling the resources needed for life and storming over the hillside with an army of kill crazed men.
Those such as your son are out of reach to these kind anymore, even ourselves here. We have just gotten lost in the search and need for validation of these abilities, unlike your son who just does them without need of validation from anyone. We are seeing Human Beings now that no longer need to communicate other than by mind to mind, can see the future and the landscape of impending hazards. This is evolution protecting the species and creating a race that will one day populate the Universe, and not be locked onto planet by oppression and animal mentality's. The people that now control us all by control of resources needed to live are the dinosaurs of the Human lineages. They sense their extinction and will not go ' quietly into the good night ' as the saying goes. Spiritual practices have been inundated into the Human DNA for many centuries, and to this end was it originally intended. Your son and many like him are the fruition of this insight from so very long ago. As constant and intense pressure created diamonds - so to the same elements created your son, and you, and I, Adrian and all the others we now know of. Mind - Body - and Soul are now one, and what you are seeing in your beloved son is the product of a wise and loving intelligence. Call it what / who you will.
Soon we will walk freely in the enlightenment of knowing, knowing when a lie is told, deception is the agenda, and when violence is impending. We will know if are children are safe, happy or sad, and they will know us. There is no loss of Self, just awareness making the primal history we read about as we have other species that have helped us to here and now, but chose not to make the transitions.
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Darrell
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 15:32:50 » |
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Wow, this is a tough thing to go through. Is your son scared at all from any of this? You spoke of your grandmother, does she have a relationship with your son now, or in the past at all? Do any other family members have these gifts like the two of you or are you on your own? Guess I am just being nosey but I think psychic children and their abilities are so fascinating. I know my own parents stifled mine as a child, and it caused me so much difficulty growing up, feeling like I was something to be ashamed of. I think it is great how you are supportive of him.
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Vibra
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2008, 17:07:50 » |
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Wow, this is a tough thing to go through. Is your son scared at all from any of this? You spoke of your grandmother, does she have a relationship with your son now, or in the past at all? Do any other family members have these gifts like the two of you or are you on your own? Guess I am just being nosey but I think psychic children and their abilities are so fascinating. I know my own parents stifled mine as a child, and it caused me so much difficulty growing up, feeling like I was something to be ashamed of. I think it is great how you are supportive of him.
Dani
The beauty of it is he has absolutely no fear of any of his experiences at all (Although he had many many questions about the "ghosts" he sees). The things he says are absolutely amazing. He visits his other Self and gets info from him (Higher Self?). He talks of his past lives, sees beings, fully understands life well beyond his years. The sensations he experiences and his vision recollection is something only someone who's been there could explain and understand.I know my grandmother had these gifts.We used to talk constantly. Unfortunately My Ego got in the way to discuss these gifts with her before she passed away. She passed on 1 month before my son was born. To make a long story short she was in a coma for a week. I went to visit her miraculously she woke up I was alone and she tried so desperately to talk to me. She was unable to speak. She passed on that afternoon. I truly believe she is watching over my son and is his spiritual guide just as she is mine. Without getting into me to the best of my spoken knowledge I and my son are the only one. Although now that I pay attention I have questions one of my sisters is connected. I was also stifled as a young child and let the gifts drift away. I am and have been paying attention for a few years now ( last year extensively) I still have all my memories which are returning at a very rapid pace. Ironic isn't it that my son and myself will begin a new awakening together to learn from each others experiences. Take care
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 18:03:39 » |
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Being a single parent is such a challenge, say nothing of adding this into the mix. Does his mother have any understanding of what is going on? Does she help or is she completely out of the picture? It is amazing how children can be so connected to both the mother and father, and at this age you usually read about the connection with the mother. It is such a blessing that you and your son are finding your gifts together. I know as a single mom the connection I have with my child was often described as woman's intuition, but the gift is so much more than that. The ability to mentally connect and support my child and feel his energy is beyond description. Then supporting his gifts and openly talking about them has helped us both feel secure with it. Dani
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2008, 10:39:27 » |
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Sorry for the delay in getting back Yes his mom is in the picture. She understands to a certain extent. She mostly understands his Psychic abilities and his ability to feel/understand others emotions and thoughts. What scares his mom is his ability to Astral project and discuss his past and future "experiences" with his other self as he says it in heaven. I believe his other self he speaks to and visits is his higher self. I'm explaining to my wife Astral Projection and what takes place. My wife being raised very catholic is terrified he will become possessed. My sons gifts are what I believe to be very advanced. Many Many people say I have a special child. Just yesterday his day care worker emailed a letter to me stating her amazement in his abilities to understand other kids emotions and the way he reacts to and reverses children's unpleasant emotions. Its hard to explain but amazing to watch take place.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 15:17:39 » |
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Hi Vibra,
My son is 3 and as you may have seen on some of my other posts has started talking of such things, of people coming to see him at night and of him going places when he is asleep 'in his mind' as he explains, he says it that feels like he is flying. When he first talked about this I encouraged it and since (only a matter of weeks ago) he has been coming out with really strange things. Today he asked my husband when he got a perticular item, he reponded with ' well it was before you were born' max then said ' before I was born, what was i doing then daddy? I know I had a sports car didnt I, I went to a wedding in it but that was all a very, very, very, very, very, long time ago' yeah could be his imagination but could also be him remembering a past life right? It is easy as parents to think what are they mumbling on about but if parents would only listen, and I mean really listen to their children im sure they would all be amazed.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2008, 18:46:11 » |
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Dear Tessa,
I am very pleased to hear you have this dialog established with your son - it will make a huge difference as he gets older.
As for the sports car and wedding - it is extremely unlikely that a three year old would speak in those terms based upon earthly experience, and so I would think there is every likelyhood that he is recalling another life of his Higher Self.
Note I say "another" life. This is very important because there is actually no such thing as a "past life". All incarnations, personalities of the Higher Self take place concurrently, but in different timelines relative to Earth. But all incarnations are still the same individuality of the Higher Self, which means that anyone who can communicate with their Higher Self can channel details of parallel lives as your son is apparently doing.
I can see your son will become a constant source of wonder and amazement as he gets older. And as long as you treat his abilities as completely natural and "matter of fact" he should retain them providing teachers and others he comes in to contact with do not put doubt in his Mind.
In Love and Light,
Adrian.
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2008, 22:34:35 » |
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Evening Everyone ~  I'm really enjoying this thread as well. Thank you Vibra for bringing this up. Namaste. Adrian, thank you for sharing this so clearly. Namaste. Note I say "another" life. This is very important because there is actually no such thing as a "past life". All incarnations, personalities of the Higher Self take place concurrently, but in different timelines relative to Earth. But all incarnations are still the same individuality of the Higher Self, which means that anyone who can communicate with their Higher Self can channel details of parallel lives as your son is apparently doing. Children really are our in our face daily re-minders of our Natural Selves.  Tessa, I really am enjoying your posts you are sharing in the forums here. Namaste. I agree with Adrian and will only add, your sons are a constant source of wonder and amazement and as you relax and go with the flow, they will only continue to enhance your experience as you are so doing in kind. My daughters shared openly with me about everything and still do. Sometimes I am like, 'Okay, too much information.'  That's what I get for communicating with them while they were within. In the adolescent years, when they got into 'trouble' in school, I made an agreement with them. I said, 'Tell me the truth, the whole truth, even if you said something you had seconds thoughts about. If you do not tell me the truth then you are on your own. I will assist you if I hear the whole story." This worked very well. I saw them take responsibility for their own actions and discussed things with them from the angle of just brain storming along with them. They sense themselves more and will disregard outside influence with each experience. An allowing them to be open and honest with someone and feeling accepted no matter what and allowing them to decide based on this knowing. I've gone on here... Anyway, Thank you All for sharing and allowing me to share as well ~ Good night, Sweet dreams, Love to All ~ Julia
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 16:09:08 » |
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Dear all,
Here is the summary of the meaning off the chapter entitled "The Dream" by Eugene Fersen.
I am interested to see what parallels you perceive in this:
In the secrecy of Silence, Lucifer and Christ are performing their eternal duties of keeping watch over the World. Being the first dual manifestation of the Great Principle, they are, as Mind and Love, the two greatest powers of this World. Mind, feeling himself to be the possessor of all knowledge and power, refuses to acknowledge the Source of All Power, his own Father, the Eternally Unmanifest, called God, and claims that power as his own. He offers to share the power of this World with his twin brother, Love.
Christ refuses to give up His God, and warns Lucifer of the great danger of pride. Lucifer, or Mind, then decides to rule the World alone, and to substitute his power for that of God. He sends his call throughout the World. He beguiles those fellow spirits who respond to his call with wonderful promises if they will follow his lead, and they proclaim him their liberator and their god. Having broken away from All Power, Lucifer (Mind), loses the greater part of his power, and falls from his high estate, together with those who followed him. This fall is called the Involution into Matter, which is itself nothing but the product of the involutionary process.
Though fallen, Lucifer's pride is still unbroken, and with the remnant of his knowledge and power, he tries to create out of the Hell into which they have been precipitated, out of the boiling, fiery mass of pride, revolt, jealousy and hatred, a new heaven which he calls Earth, and he makes human beings out of his fellow spirits. Mind, in his utter pride, wants to create his own world after the divine pattern. Seemingly successful in the beginning, he ultimately fails completely. Pride, revolt, jealously, hatred, all permeating his creation, make again a Hell out of the Heaven which he thought he had created. His twin brother, Love, comes to the rescue, but Mind, out of jealousy, continually fights the only one who could help him. Through ages that fight goes on, until Love wins, and Mind (Lucifer) acknowledges his defeat. There comes to him the realization of the immensity of his mistake, and he decides to face eternal damnation in order to save Humanity.
His sacrifice is accepted, but through his own sacrifice the negative in him is destroyed, and the positive and eternal is brought out. He goes out into the World to learn the lesson of Love, and his mission as Mind is to teach Humanity that All Power comes from God alone. Thus he brings back all human beings to the Realm of Eternal Harmony, called Heaven, and redeems himself also. And when that work has been completed, though seemingly it lasts through countless ages, and is so real to him, he realizes that all that negative and sad experience was nothing but a dream.
Having learned the lesson of Love, Mind becomes one with it, in the Bosom of their Eternal Father, God.
Every human being born to this Earth is experiencing within himself that living dream of Mind. Mind is continually fighting against Love, the Luciferian principle combatting the Christ Principle, and when the Christ Principle, Love wins, then Lucifer, the fallen Mind, is redeemed and the liberated individual is awakened to his true status of Eternal Perfection as a Son of God.
In Love and Light,
Adrian.
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