"The Secret" ? What is the secret of that film?

[melody]

Film “The Secret” tells us that the  mightiest, the richest people of this world such as the Rockeffers and the likes, had a “Secret”, and now this secret is being revealed to the masses. Indeed, they had a secret - they all belonged to an ancient secret society that had an agenda from the very start to rule the entire world one day. And this particular secret is now slowly coming to light – but not in this film.

What does the film “The Secret” tell us? If you want to be as rich as those richest people they mention in the film, first of all you have to love them, second, you have to hold a positive image in your mind of what you want, and third, concentrate only on that positive image in your mind. Specifically, you should not do anything about any negative aspect in your life. Moreover, a fear is installed – if you try to deal with the negative you will only perpetuate it, you will attract it to yourself even more, and by facing negativity or merely thinking about it you will create even more misery in your life. You are responsible for all the negative happenings in your life, even if you find yourself in a war zone.

But it is coming to light now that those rich of this world actually stage misery and those wars on purpose, so they would divide and rule, and install fear in people which would allow them to rule everybody more easily.

So, the “secret” process described in the film seems to play directly into the plan of all the mighty of this world. The message is:

- Love us, the mighty of this world! If you don’t love us you will never be rich like us since you will not have rich vibrations.

- Don't do anything about all the horrors we create and the way it affects your psyche and your personal life. If you act against it, you will embrace negative vibrations and perpetuate your misery, and thus will never be rich.

- Live in a happy (or apiring to be happy) bubble of your affirmations and imagination. (While we take complete control of the world, your psyche, your human dignity, and enslave you totally?)

Could this film be actually a New-Age(y) propaganda from the Illuminati?

Yes, indeed, one has to act from the most positive, the strongest, the most loving God-like part inside to achieve anything of real value. One has to act! Even in face of despair and adversity. But this film does not go to tell us anything about this.

[Spectre]

I was beginning to think that for the larger part I was alone in this line of thinking and actually trying to trace what they were basing “The Secret” on. In that film “The Secret” they have a lot of mixed facts and allude that their knowledge of “The Law of Attraction” is what inspired these historical people to become great. I have watched that DVD many times and nowhere in it does it mention responsibility of actions. Why is that?

[melody]

Hello Spectre ,

Assuming this might be a propaganda film, then ‘they’ would not want us to question their responsibility of action, the actions they do.

This film basically pacifies you by telling you can get any material thing you desire. It does not speak of how an action is really required to get it. Seemingly, it is not needed. The basic idea is that you imagine what you want – for example an expensive necklace shown in the trailer to the film - and then miraculously you receive it as a present. And if you don’t get the item after a long visualization and affirmation period, then it is your felt, you are not doing it correctly, since LOA is supposedly a scientific law of physics. So they really have a way out if it if does not work... 

I am not surprised it makes many people feel frustrated, like failures. But maybe (if this is a propaganda film) this is a real objective to make people feel they are not in control of a rudimentary physics law, and are so much out of sync with the physical principles.

Frankly, I would like to see a physics book in which there is a Law of Attraction discussed as a physics law (it exists only concerning negative and positive charge, as in magnets, or electrons). There is not such a thing.

They took an experimental situation in which an experimenter can materialize a Quark out of the vibration energy field simply by observing it. They stretched this lab situation a long way and tell you that you can materialized the material goodies according to this principle just by thinking about them. It just does not follow logically. And then they stretch it even more and tell you that you do not actually materialize goodies from the energy field as is the case when Quarks are observed, but in a different manner, you basically get it through actions of other people – circumstances created by other people. Those people get your vibes and deliver you items you desire as a present or in same other way. Well, this is a real jump away from a supposed “Law of Physics” regarding Quarks.

Mind you, apparently some advanced yogi can materialize objects from thin air, but that requires years of spiritual practices, and we are not at this stage.

Also, when you are in a relationship, the other person knows what you want, by the way you might have looked at something when you were standing together at a window display, and this is why you get it as a present (if that person has the money).

Basically, in reality, if you want something, you focus on it, and consider all the circumstances that can bring it into existence. You “knock on the doors”, you take the right actions, centralize your interactions around the desired outcome, and take chances when circumstances present themselves. You are more perceptive to those circumstances since you are focused on what you want. Circumstances always present themselves, but if your mind is not focused, you don’t see them.

You talk to people, put a word out about what you want to do (knock on the doors), and people pass this word around. You also take the right courses at a college, if that’s what is required. You go where your objective can be met. You take the right actions to bring your desire into fruition.

It is much easier to get a desired outcome if you align yourself with your desire on all planes of your existence. This way you are more perceptive to the circumstances outside of you. You also know what correct words to say to people with whom you are interacting, and what your next step should be.

Eventually, because you are continuously working on it: mentally, with your imagination, your emotions, and with your actions, you will get what you want. But I would not call this a law of physics.

There might also be telepathic aspects to help you along the way. But that would not be a LOA.

There might also be a Law of Attraction when two polarities meet (like with magnets), and you sense that even at a distance, and then work on it.

Yes, you are absolutely right, this film does not speak about responsibility of action.

[melody]

What I mean by two polarities above is not two opposites. Polarity simply imply a situation with 2 points (you and some other point) where there is a possibility of an energy flow, a creative energy flow.

It is a dichotomy of the human mind that sees everything as opposites. Polarity that allows the energy flow is actually a unity. The energy that flows through those points unites them.

[Awakened Soul]

Well, even though it's likely that dark forces will mess around with new age stuff, I'm not sure if this is the case here. It might just all depend on your own interpretation.

The movie actually does speak about intuitive action. I own the dvd and have seen it multiple times. It just states that you don't have to plan out everything in detail. But if you have a 'gut' feeling to act, then act. That's the same thing Adrian has stated multiple times and that you should always focus on the end result - not on 'how' you're gonna achieve something.

What's more interesting to me is that it's stated in the Secret that we don't have a destiny. That we ourselves should decide what we want and that there's no fixed plan written in the stars. That could be a more serious flaw in the movie if you ask me. But even that can be interpreted the 'correct' way. Perhaps by making that no fixed destiny-statement, they just want to avoid people to think that bad things just happen and that there's nothing you can do about it and that it's just your destiny to feel miserable. Don't forget - it's probably not easy to make a perfect dvd about the Law of Attraction. In the same regard, I didn't like some books about this subject either, but there's still stuff in there you can learn from. Even when it's 'just' positive thinking. When I get out of bed and don't feel too well, it makes all the difference not to focus on that but, instead, to focus on the good things, like a nice breakfast or a fresh glass of water or a nice shower (I love water) and to be grateful for these things. I'm no manifest-expert but these little things most definitely help me to feel better then when I do the opposite. This is all stated in the Secret - that when you're grateful, the energy shifts and that it's much easier to feel good. And when you feel good, you'll attract more pleasant things.

I work in the television sector behind the scenes, and there can be a lot of stress there for everyone involved. People at home don't know how crazy things can be around there. When I focus on that stress things get worse and worse and I doom myself to feel horrible tight up and am more likely to make mistakes. When there's something I got to do, or a problem I have to solve, then it's much better to stay calm minded and instead of giving in to panic, it's best to just increase focus on the task at hand with a peaceful feeling inside. This isn't always easy, but it most definitely helps getting the job done right.

Same thing with dreaming. When I take the time to feel good before going to sleep, I dream more nicely and I even believe that I will face less troubles at work the next day. When I'm in a bad mood before going to sleep, I can end up in some seriously hell-like places that I really would not like to go back to. These places are so horrible and real that it almost makes me puke when I remember them.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not as advanced as people like Adrian, but that your way of thinking influences your life is something I can prove to myself, at least to some degree, every day in my life.

Anyway, I have also heard that a new, second dvd is being made which will focus on how to take action. But I don't know whether this is true or just a rumor.

A couple of people from the Secret dvd has also been on the Oprah Winfrey show. They didn't seem evil to me. Some of them were almost glowing from peacefulness and were very passionate.

Basicly, if the movie can make you feel good, then that's good. Right? If it makes you feel bad, then perhaps you shouldn't watch it.

I think it's more important not to buy into all these privacy invading nonsense that seems to be the hype in modern society. Like these camera's, new nano-chips, iris scans, etc. But as Adrian said - don't focus upon that either.

[melody]

Hello Awakened Soul,

I think it is great to be able to reconnect to one center and to feel good, especially when in stressful circumstances. And I do not question that the people who participated – were interviewed for this film - were sincere and successful. If there was any a connection to a propaganda supposition (a big IF) then it could have been in a form of money for making the film and the way the film’s ideology was presented – that people like Rockefellers have this special “spiritual” secret (a law of physics kind of secret – based on quantum physics) which they have kept for themselves and this is why they are so rich, because of this spiritual – quantum law secret – LOA – Law Of Attraction. And that their secret is the mastery of LOA. It is – in my opinion – a false statement. What the likes of the Rockefellers had perfected was mastery of power, deceit, and some evil machinations behind the scenes. This is why they became this all mighty, and have been for many centuries. They did not become almighty by affirmations and by connecting to the Source, the God.

[Awakened Soul]

Ah... so that's what you mean

Well... I don't know the Rockefellers, but I do know the type you describe.

[melody]

I don't know personally the Rockefellers either. It is what I heard of them, of their way of taking control and power. Yet, if you were to meet them in person I am sure they'd be very polite and appear as very nice people.

If you know the type - I suppose in the industry where you are working - well, imagine that being multiplied many folds if such a person had billions of dollars at his disposition and a lot of freedom to do as he pleases?

[will1123]

Film “The Secret” tells us that the  mightiest, the richest people of this world such as the Rockeffers and the likes, had a “Secret”, and now this secret is being revealed to the masses. Indeed, they had a secret - they all belonged to an ancient secret society that had an agenda from the very start to rule the entire world one day. And this particular secret is now slowly coming to light – but not in this film.

What does the film “The Secret” tell us? If you want to be as rich as those richest people they mention in the film, first of all you have to love them, second, you have to hold a positive image in your mind of what you want, and third, concentrate only on that positive image in your mind. Specifically, you should not do anything about any negative aspect in your life. Moreover, a fear is installed – if you try to deal with the negative you will only perpetuate it, you will attract it to yourself even more, and by facing negativity or merely thinking about it you will create even more misery in your life. You are responsible for all the negative happenings in your life, even if you find yourself in a war zone.

But it is coming to light now that those rich of this world actually stage misery and those wars on purpose, so they would divide and rule, and install fear in people which would allow them to rule everybody more easily.

So, the “secret” process described in the film seems to play directly into the plan of all the mighty of this world. The message is:

- Love us, the mighty of this world! If you don’t love us you will never be rich like us since you will not have rich vibrations.

- Don't do anything about all the horrors we create and the way it affects your psyche and your personal life. If you act against it, you will embrace negative vibrations and perpetuate your misery, and thus will never be rich.

- Live in a happy (or apiring to be happy) bubble of your affirmations and imagination. (While we take complete control of the world, your psyche, your human dignity, and enslave you totally?)

Could this film be actually a New-Age(y) propaganda from the Illuminati?

Yes, indeed, one has to act from the most positive, the strongest, the most loving God-like part inside to achieve anything of real value. One has to act! Even in face of despair and adversity. But this film does not go to tell us anything about this.

I've read through this thread and I have to address some things.  First, the secret, or the law of attraction, is not the "end all, be all" of self awareness or self improvement. It is merely a tool that can be used for a greater self awareness.  If you do not want to use it, fine.  There are many other paths that will get you where you want to go.

Secondly, i've read the book, seen the movie and read many works from the featured teachers of the law of attraction.  I don't remember anywhere about having to love the Rockerfellers of the world in order to utilize the secret. I'm not sure where you got that from.  No where does it state that the Law of Attraction wont work if you don't idolize the rich and successful of the world

Thirdly, the film and book clearly states that "fighting" against negative things will only breed more of the same.  It does say that. HOWEVER, that does not mean to look the other way and sit contentedly and wait for your riches.  The best way to combat something is to focus your attention on its opposite.  Hate war? Be pro-peace.  Hate drugs?  Be pro-health.  You see, by focusing on the positive aspect you take away the power from the negative aspect.  That's something I have always believed, even before learning about the Law of attraction. It reminds me of a line I read somewhere: "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

The film does talk about responsibility and action.  It is not about just sitting there and waiting.  But it goes a little further than that.  You must be open to those "gut feelings" , those intuitive notions that lead us in the right direction. Then act on those. My parents always used to say, "go with your first mind."  That is to say, when faced with a choice, the most obvious answer is probably the correct one.

Call me gullible, naive or whatever you want, but I must say again, there are several paths to follow.  What works for you might not work for another, and vice versa.  If all I get by applying the Law of Attraction is a calm soul, then so be it. I may be different than others in that I look at the law of attraction as a tool for developing my emotional wealth.  I'm not saying I would scoff at material wealth either, but the main thing is happiness.  I have definitely felt more happy since applying the law of attraction in my life. But it isn't "the answer." It is merely one answer among many.

[melody]

Hello Will1123,

I am glad you voiced your opinion. When I posted this topic I hoped more people would participate in this discussion since the Law of Attraction is a very trendy thing right now.

The stress on loving rich people is made by quite a few LOA teachers (maybe not that strongly in The Secret). They claim if you don’t love rich people, or if you say bad things about them, like for instance, that “rich are crooked”, then you will not be able to be rich yourself, because you are denying yourself those vibes.

It is great that “The Secret" works for you. And you are absolutely right, we all need different approaches to spirituality and well being.

Good luck with your approach!   

[will1123]

Thanks for the kind words. 

It seems lately that there has been much negative association with the law of attraction.  I think much of it is due to how people desperately want to have that magic cure that will make all of their ills disappear.  Unfortunately, that's not the case with any program i've ever known.  I've been finding myself in a position to defend the law of attraction.  I know Rhonda Byrne focused on material things in the book and the movie.  But that was just the "sizzle." That was to get sales, plain and simple.  The people who are benefiting from the secret know that the "steak" is the idea of creating your own happiness.  Material things may make you happy for a while, but its fleeting and oftentimes we end up not any more happy than if we were not to have that certain material possession.  But the real gift is the fact that we are capable of shaping our lives in any way we see fit.  We are not encumbered by our thoughts instilled in us through childhood. We are not a victim of chance or circumstance.  Anything we have done to negatively impact our life we can undo as well through a shift in our awareness.  Most people are not even aware of the crippling negativity we carry.

Case in point:  I work with this lady who is a very cynical person.  But I had noticed that she and her husband had sold their house, made a profit and managed to get a bigger house outside of town.  Their bills were getting paid and they were doing pretty well.  Then one day she comes into work and tells us that lightning struck her house and ruined some of their major appliances.  I had a quick thought and then asked her, "have you been thinking about what's going to go wrong in your life?"  She said, "I can't help it. It seems like every time things are going good, I wonder what's going to go wrong this time..."

She can't enjoy the good times in her life because she is so focused on what might go wrong. I'm sorry but that is not healthy.  Those thoughts become a self fulfilling prophecy.  Would her house have been struck by lightning even if she was using the law of attraction? More than likely, yes.  But at least she would have been able to fully enjoy the times when things were going well and her stress level was low.  But living with that nagging negative thought in one's head keeps them from enjoying the present, and more often than not, becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

The law of attraction is about happiness.  Material things may or may not come, but being able to have a grasp on the direction of your life is priceless.

[melody]

...being able to have a grasp on the direction of your life is priceless.

Hello Will1123,

You expressed it so precisely!

I believe this is what the spiritual teachings are all about. They are not about getting material things, but about getting grasp on the direction of one's life towards being one with The Universe, with The Source, and also being one with this Earth - which we are not.

[melody]

If we are all one (on energy level) as spiritual teaching tell us, and since our thoughts are energy and are part of the collective "oneness", then if a child encounters grate atrocity and horror which he/she has not formulated in the mind previously, (or even hunger), whether this is not a part of a people's collective mind that creates this, rather that the mind of the child himself/herself, as per LOA?

[zensunni7]

The Secret is very ' trendy ' right now, as stated. Yet the spiritual community as a whole seems to have headed that way over the last few decades.

I did not hear in the movie that we needed to love the ones that amassed fortunes
and became powerful, I heard we needed to love ourselves first and foremost.
The last thing powerful people like the ones mentioned want is a population that is focused on love of self and with the power to recreate their realities.
The powerful rely on fear based populations for manipulation of them to keep feeding them with more power. Fear constricts a persons energy and all related systems in the body, bringing one to a very low vibration. Like walking in mud, it is quickly tiring demands all your energy just to walk, leaving you weak and vulnerable. How the controlling people - need - us to be.

I agree the Secret describes a tool of raising ones vibrational alignment into a higher frequency, a smoother flow within yourself. Yet many are frustrated for lack of ' instant ' results. As with most new knowledge, we became flooded with a tsunami of teachers, gurus, coaches, and those that ' know ' the best way  to apply this tools effectiveness.
I got from the movie that what matters is our thoughts, just ours, and no-one else's. It is just common sense to believe if we hold positive uplifting thoughts our reality will change for the better. Negative people still get great thoughts and ideas, they just lack the confidences to act on them, or take the risk that comes with new actions.
Yet, I feel confident that the Secret will yield a new atmosphere in the Human environment, based solely on the premise, people are ready for a positive change
in global and personal life. It offers the best of both worlds, the spiritual and the intellectual. An idea that leaves room for many tools to work together for the betterment of yourself, and allowing us the freedom to love self without guilt, knowing such action can and will make you a happier person, and happiness is contagious.
We can debate all the fine points of the movie and book, yet debates seldom yield any tangible results. Much like the spirituality and religious beliefs, they have been around forever yet we still see death and horror following the name of God.
The great teachers across time spoke a common message, it is ours alone to create a life of bliss, happiness, and abundance, we are our own saviors or not.
I personally have been economically poor most of my life, yet unbelievably rich in so many other areas. I ingested knowledge like a crack whore, had five beautiful children and the honor to raise them full time, grandchildren now, and the sacred honor of imparting my knowledge to them, and learning from them. LOA brought me what I loved, what I valued deepest in my heart. So the Secret does work as a tool of reality creation. because I was the one that took responsibility for the choices I was making for my life, and what I chose to value most in it.

I also  saw it work in the economic side of my life. I was told constantly as a child I was worthless, stupid, and would never amount to anything, good for ditch digging and hard labor. The undercurrents of those days lived on. I worked hard at hard work to raise the family, always living in fear of bills and mortgage payments, and consequently lost my house. I still to this day am working to end that cycle embedded into my subconscious mind. Yet the Secret is working better than all the other tools I have used so far.

I think we get out of the movie and the book what we need to at that moment, watch it a year from now and you will see / hear something different, yet just as revealing to you personally. I just finished reading a six page report on physics, only to walk away with one paragraph that really ' hit home ' and that I can apply tonight.

WithIn Love,

Darrell

[Adrian]

Hello Darrell,

Thank you for another excellent post and I agree with much of what you say.

"The Secret" was and is excellent as far as it goes, above all raising awareness of these important Universal Principles.

I can't help noticing that "The Law of Attraction" has become somewhat taken out of context since then, not to mention a multitude of new "laws" appearing which simply do not exist in reality. Even The Law of Attraction is not a true Universal Principle, it is a subset of other Universal Principles - and yes they should really be called "Principles" as opposed to "laws".

My main observation is that "The Secret" focusses too heavily on materialism, i.e. attracting material things, and that is not the idea of course.

There is a huge difference between "money" and even "wealth" and Abundance which is what we should be focussing on, especially in view of the events we are facing over the next few years.

Kind regards,

Adrian.