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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2008, 10:03:02 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

I've been meaning to ask you, how thorough where you during your research? Not that it is really important to tell, just curious if you have ever ran into such people like these monks and yogi's how can do all these things you give them credit for. I only read about them but I've yet to meet any such person.

During your research did you travel? Go the distance? Did you meet fascinating people to whom you say "inspired" your teachings? Sorry if this sounds like I'm coming on too strong, but I doubt many people are thorough in their research enough to exploit such teachings. Not to say that your one of them wink

Well as I mentioned before, I did not and do not do much research, except to verify specific facts that are attributable to specific people etc, and as I mentioned before, whenever I have done this in the context of my book, I always quote the sources on the relevant pages.

No I have never travelled much, and have never actually been to Tibet.  I personally know people who have however, and they tell me their experiences. These have not really influenced my book much though - I just find them interesting, and often verify what I already know to be true.  I am also aware of these people and their abilities from other sources.

No person actually "inspired" my writings, inspired means directly from Source.

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2008, 18:29:04 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

I've been meaning to ask you, how thorough where you during your research? Not that it is really important to tell, just curious if you have ever ran into such people like these monks and yogi's how can do all these things you give them credit for. I only read about them but I've yet to meet any such person.

During your research did you travel? Go the distance? Did you meet fascinating people to whom you say "inspired" your teachings? Sorry if this sounds like I'm coming on too strong, but I doubt many people are thorough in their research enough to exploit such teachings. Not to say that your one of them wink

Well as I mentioned before, I did not and do not do much research, except to verify specific facts that are attributable to specific people etc, and as I mentioned before, whenever I have done this in the context of my book, I always quote the sources on the relevant pages.

No I have never travelled much, and have never actually been to Tibet.  I personally know people who have however, and they tell me their experiences. These have not really influenced my book much though - I just find them interesting, and often verify what I already know to be true.  I am also aware of these people and their abilities from other sources.

So these people that tell you of their experience in such places, are you sure their not just "pulling your leg" or misinterpretation such things? How can you be sure of their stories if you were not there to witness them yourself? Is it Source that comfirms for you whether or not their stories check out?

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No person actually "inspired" my writings, inspired means directly from Source.

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You have a very strong connection with Source or something?! How did you acquire such a connection? Were you taught by these people or did you just stumbled upon a method of which you can contact Source whenever you wish? Also are you in a 24/7 contact mode with Source, or do you drop in and out as you wish?
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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2008, 03:51:51 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

So these people that tell you of their experience in such places, are you sure their not just "pulling your leg" or misinterpretation such things? How can you be sure of their stories if you were not there to witness them yourself? Is it Source that comfirms for you whether or not their stories check out?

I always know if someone is "pulling my leg" Smiley And in any case these were not that type of person or who had reason to. That said, the words of these people do not form part of my writings in any way, they just represent independant anecdotal confirmations of what I already know to be true or possible.

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You have a very strong connection with Source or something?! How did you acquire such a connection? Were you taught by these people or did you just stumbled upon a method of which you can contact Source whenever you wish? Also are you in a 24/7 contact mode with Source, or do you drop in and out as you wish?

We all have a connection with Source because we are Source.  Most people block themselves from actually realising that connection which remains buried deep within their consciousness.

There are no "methods" - it is simply a state of Being, and one that has been enjoyed by many in the past resulting in "inspired writings". Most of the Bible is inspired for example.

As to the how - I have been seeking for over 40 years with an open Mind, and no pre-concieved ideas, always knowing who I am and why I am here. So I have spent the last 40 years or so preparing for these last few years. Of course I did not know that at the time, but looking back it all makes perfect sense.

As I have mentioned before - one of the most important events in my life was in realising this at the age of 8 at which point I totally rejected religion under difficult circumstances - especially for an 8 year old - when "religious education" or more correctly indoctrination was taken very seriously.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2008, 16:41:46 »

Hello Adrian
...we are Source.
...as expressions and aspects of God, and that as God is within each of us and is infinitely powerful,..
Who are we exactly? Source itself or eternal aspects of Source, God? Yogi Ramacharaka (William Walker Atkinson) says in his books that we cannot be God itself, because we are not omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient at once.
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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2008, 16:54:32 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

So these people that tell you of their experience in such places, are you sure their not just "pulling your leg" or misinterpretation such things? How can you be sure of their stories if you were not there to witness them yourself? Is it Source that comfirms for you whether or not their stories check out?

I always know if someone is "pulling my leg" Smiley And in any case these were not that type of person or who had reason to. That said, the words of these people do not form part of my writings in any way, they just represent independant anecdotal confirmations of what I already know to be true or possible.

Well I didn't mean pulling your leg like if someone is lying to you. What I really meant to ask is how do you know what they said really happened or did they really experienced what they believe they experienced. In any case, it's not important - I know these things are real so that's all that really matters to me.

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You have a very strong connection with Source or something?! How did you acquire such a connection? Were you taught by these people or did you just stumbled upon a method of which you can contact Source whenever you wish? Also are you in a 24/7 contact mode with Source, or do you drop in and out as you wish?

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We all have a connection with Source because we are Source.  Most people block themselves from actually realising that connection which remains buried deep within their consciousness.

There are no "methods" - it is simply a state of Being, and one that has been enjoyed by many in the past resulting in "inspired writings". Most of the Bible is inspired for example.

I know not how to connect with Source. Which is why I ask how did you stumble upon being able to. I thought you could maybe give some pointers of how it is done. This "state of being" as you call it, how does one enter it? Is it like in a trance state? Is it done through meditations? I mean there has to be something that opens up this connection or allows you to realise the connection you have with something as big as this! If it was really so easy then everybody would be doing it effortlessly. There is something that you are doing, and other such wisemen, that sets you aside from the rest - by rest I mean those who haven't realised that connection.

I have spontaneous realisations of many things especially psychic experiences yet I know not how to replicate them or what causes them. It sort of a go with the flow type thing and it just happens to me. I am quite sure I have realised Source in some way or another. I don't remember them precisely though - to the point where I can say for sure that I have had such an experience. However, I wish to enter such a "state of being" whenever I choose to.

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As to the how - I have been seeking for over 40 years with an open Mind, and no pre-concieved ideas, always knowing who I am and why I am here. So I have spent the last 40 years or so preparing for these last few years. Of course I did not know that at the time, but looking back it all makes perfect sense.

As I have mentioned before - one of the most important events in my life was in realising this at the age of 8 at which point I totally rejected religion under difficult circumstances - especially for an 8 year old - when "religious education" or more correctly indoctrination was taken very seriously.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.




You may have mentioned it before but I had no idea you realised Source at such an early age! I mean when I was little I always wondered that the world was bigger then it seems and I don't mean by the size of the planet Earth or in the area I lived. I meant it as far as reality wise. I always had this sense that there is more to what I was hearing, seeing, and experiencing even though I couldn't discern it. I use to follow the Christian ways back then, well somewhat - I use to be a Baptist. I didn't really want to follow it but it was hard at that young for me to go against my elders and guardian's. Many times I was force to see things through their understanding and always their would be a fight breaking out if I disagreed with any of it.

Going to Church was fun. Meeting a lot of high spirited and energetic people. The problem was I just didn't feel it in me to believe in their teachings. Though I believe in Heaven and Hell, for some reason I was never really to convinced of it. I did believe bad people will go somewhere they belong and good people will go somewhere they belong and I kept it at that. I never had a description or image of those places until I was educated in the ways of Christianity. Once I got old enough I completely dropped the religion all together and decide to look for the truth - the whole truth and nothing but...

Well back to you grin - have you demostraded anything these things you right about? You seem to be on-line quite a bit for a busy man and your a father at that. When do you find time to meditate and stuff?

Hello Adrian
...we are Source.
...as expressions and aspects of God, and that as God is within each of us and is infinitely powerful,..
Who are we exactly? Source itself or eternal aspects of Source, God? Yogi Ramacharaka (William Walker Atkinson) says in his books that we cannot be God itself, because we are not omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient at once.

Good question. Personally I can see us as Source itself either. I do believe that we are expressions of it - we are connected to it - we are embuned with it - it flows through us and makes us entirely what we are. But to call s Source itself, Naa I am having a hard time swallowing that particular part ot it grin
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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2008, 18:51:56 »

Hello Baki Hanma,


Well I didn't mean pulling your leg like if someone is lying to you. What I really meant to ask is how do you know what they said really happened or did they really experienced what they believe they experienced. In any case, it's not important - I know these things are real so that's all that really matters to me.

I knew intuitively and from my own experience as to whether it is within the realms of possibility.  And also because I trust the people concerned.

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I know not how to connect with Source. Which is why I ask how did you stumble upon being able to. I thought you could maybe give some pointers of how it is done. This "state of being" as you call it, how does one enter it? Is it like in a trance state? Is it done through meditations? I mean there has to be something that opens up this connection or allows you to realise the connection you have with something as big as this! If it was really so easy then everybody would be doing it effortlessly. There is something that you are doing, and other such wisemen, that sets you aside from the rest - by rest I mean those who haven't realised that connection.

My connection became more apparent to me over time although it is always very subtle.  It does not suddenly happen over night. Everything is Energy, Source is Energy, and I suppose that when we remove all blockages and doubt, are a sincere, open-minded seeker and most importantly with a genuine desire to use higher knowledge for the greater good, then it is a natural progression. Source, particularly at this time, will make use of all available channels to guide humanity away from its present course and back on the true course. I am quite sure there are plenty of others around the world.

It is not a trance state or meditative state, it is a completely natural state.

Everyone already has a connection with Source, because, as we have said time and again we are expressions of Source, and everyone therefore has the same latent ability to connect at that level and receive inspiration, but most block that connection with their thoughts, fears, intentions, motives, and a whole range of other emotions and thought patterns.  It is like having a pipe that is capable of delivering large volumes of water, but for most people the pipe has a kink in it so the water flow is very restricted.


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I have spontaneous realisations of many things especially psychic experiences yet I know not how to replicate them or what causes them. It sort of a go with the flow type thing and it just happens to me. I am quite sure I have realised Source in some way or another. I don't remember them precisely though - to the point where I can say for sure that I have had such an experience. However, I wish to enter such a "state of being" whenever I choose to.

Psychic states do not originate from the same vibration as Source - in fact they originate at a much lower level relative to the physical world. That does not mean they are not useful though.

We do not enter a state of Being with Source - it is our natural state of Being.

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You may have mentioned it before but I had no idea you realised Source at such an early age! I mean when I was little I always wondered that the world was bigger then it seems and I don't mean by the size of the planet Earth or in the area I lived. I meant it as far as reality wise. I always had this sense that there is more to what I was hearing, seeing, and experiencing even though I couldn't discern it. I use to follow the Christian ways back then, well somewhat - I use to be a Baptist. I didn't really want to follow it but it was hard at that young for me to go against my elders and guardian's. Many times I was force to see things through their understanding and always their would be a fight breaking out if I disagreed with any of it.

I would not say that I actually realised that connection at that age. In fact it has been a progressive and very subtle process. But then again it was not very usual for an 8 year old, especially 40 years ago when religious education was a very serious matter in schools, to intuitively know that everything he was being taught about religion and in fact the World was wrong, beyond any doubt, so I suppose that realisation must have come from somewhere.

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Going to Church was fun. Meeting a lot of high spirited and energetic people. The problem was I just didn't feel it in me to believe in their teachings. Though I believe in Heaven and Hell, for some reason I was never really to convinced of it. I did believe bad people will go somewhere they belong and good people will go somewhere they belong and I kept it at that. I never had a description or image of those places until I was educated in the ways of Christianity. Once I got old enough I completely dropped the religion all together and decide to look for the truth - the whole truth and nothing but...

I can understand the social aspects of Church certainly. I have only been to a church service about twice, and they were to attend marriages - one of which was my own - not my choice I hasten to add. The church I mean Smiley

I have visited churches from time to time in the course of my research. Over here we have grave stones that depict the true meaning  the Solar Cross and the Vernal Equinox - which reflected the time when the Vikings -who also founded the worlds oldest system of government that is still unchanged today - were being converted from their pagan deities to Christianity.  There are also plenty of interesting occult and other artefacts from people unknown. In fact here we have some most interesting phenomena as well as sundry strange entities, one of which kept tearing the roof off a chapel as soon as it was re-roofed, until finally they gave up, and it still stands there roofless to this day. I guess it did not approve of religion Smiley

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Well back to you grin - have you demostraded anything these things you right about? You seem to be on-line quite a bit for a busy man and your a father at that. When do you find time to meditate and stuff?

Time is an illusion. If you think you do not have time then so it is. I do not wear a watch so I do not acknowledge "time". People have sometimes said to me that I seem do the work of 10 people, but honestly it doesn't seem like that to me at all - I am simply very organised, disciplined and focused and do whatever needs to be done in the moment. I still make sure I relax and pursue activities with my children as well.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.


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« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2008, 04:23:02 »

I remember you told L in another forum that you dont write about anything that you cant do. Are you implying that you can perform or have experienced all of which you hav written in your books? If so, then the others opinions and stories dont matter because you have proved to yourself that they are real.
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« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2008, 08:36:43 »

Helllo Baki Hanma,

I remember you told L in another forum that you dont write about anything that you cant do. Are you implying that you can perform or have experienced all of which you hav written in your books? If so, then the others opinions and stories dont matter because you have proved to yourself that they are real.

Yes I can. There is nothing in my book that anyone cannot achieve with practice, because they are fairly basic abilities.

It does not invalidate the opinions of others in any way. First  - I have never actually proved it - mainly because I do not feel the need to prove anything, but also for logistical reasons - e.g. where I live. And second, everyone has a unique experience.

I expect to be questioned and welcome it - within reasom of course. Some people have an ulterior motive, but they are a small minority.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2008, 15:44:04 »

Helllo Baki Hanma,

I remember you told L in another forum that you dont write about anything that you cant do. Are you implying that you can perform or have experienced all of which you hav written in your books? If so, then the others opinions and stories dont matter because you have proved to yourself that they are real.

Yes I can. There is nothing in my book that anyone cannot achieve with practice, because they are fairly basic abilities.

It does not invalidate the opinions of others in any way. First  - I have never actually proved it - mainly because I do not feel the need to prove anything, but also for logistical reasons - e.g. where I live. And second, everyone has a unique experience.

I expect to be questioned and welcome it - within reasom of course. Some people have an ulterior motive, but they are a small minority.

In Love and Light,

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I see. So basically what your saying is even though you can do all these things, you dont demonstrate them in front of an audience of any kind. It's understandable really, I mean I tend to keep my abilities to myself now for what others with little understanding might think or do in response. I do however demonstrate some to a very few people like the TK for instance, but thats about it.

However, on the otherside - it could help reinforce peoples belief in these abilities if they witness a live demonstration. Though most would probably chopp it all up as some sort of trick or something anyways - which is why I stop posting vids years ago.
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« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2008, 16:08:19 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

All worthwhile abilities are tools for inner growth and evolution, otherwise they are not worthwhile.

There are many extremely impressive occult abilities out there, but they are a trap because they do not help us to evolve. What tends to happen is that people spend years leaning them, and then become lost in their Ego's because they can do it - so they go backwards.

Telekinesis including spoon bending is an exception - and fascinating. In these "spoon bending parties" most adults can bend spoons, but children as young as 4 years bend thick iron bars and even tie knots in them.

The reason is simple - they never Believe, even for a second, that they cannot do it. Also they never think in terms of seperateness - they only think in terms of what Is. To a child the iron bar is part of their reality.

Faith and Belief are extremely important.

There is no limit to what can be "bent" - our entire reality can be bent - or as Jesus said a mountain moved - the only limits are Faith, Belief and knowing the true nature of the Oneness of All.

Telekinesis is also excellent for similar reasons as well as Concentration.

In developing these abilities the only person you have anything to prove anything to is yourself. The desire to demonstrate to others comes from the Ego almost every time, because you would be seeking admiration and possibly fame.

Everyone has these abilities - it is only a matter of erasing the old programming and doing it.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

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« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2008, 16:27:56 »

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In developing these abilities the only person you have anything to prove anything to is yourself.

There!! You said it! See, even you understand. Thats what I meant all along and I think Wave did also. We just want to prove it to ourselves that we can do them. It isn't enough to just believe that we have the potential, I actually want to experience them.

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The desire to demonstrate to others comes from the Ego almost every time, because you would be seeking admiration and possibly fame.

I have no desire to show off for fame and publicity reasons. Sure there were a time when learning TK awahile back I showed some people. It was to try and prove that these things exist. I never expected anything in return. I suppose the attention at the time was pretty cool, but that was then. I'm different now. Beside most people even then thought I was just pulling a trick.

This isn't an ego thing for me. I like to think of it as self-realisation. You never know what you can really do until you do it. If you never try then you are not able. Just knowing in your head is one thing. You need to experience it. The ego is tempting I admit it. However it should be a lesson to learn how to deal with the ego rather then run from it.
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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2008, 23:05:45 »

I remember you told L in another forum that you don't write about anything that you cant do.

Yeah, and I remember asking  tongue.

It is most impressive if he could perform all of what he teaches and writes about - being that it is a lot of information, must mean a great deal of experience.

Adrian,a question for you. Why so secretive? I find it a bit strange that a person with as much wisdom as you, to be exploiting such teachings of psychic phenomenons, Mind power and Spiritual development - yet I have yet to view any pictures of you nor have I seen a biography (even a short one) telling us a little something about yourself. I've browsed through many sites before and even now. I've also noticed that many of the people that sell products, books, etc on such teachings as these will always have a little background info telling the reader and seeker a little bit about the person they are doing business with.

Don't mean to come on so strong with it, but why be a stranger to your followers wink - open up a little cool
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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2008, 06:32:58 »

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...nor have I seen a biography (even a short one)...
Don't you read Adrian's biography on this website? If you want to see his appearance, you can project your consciousness awareness on the Astral Pulse Island (as far as I know).
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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2008, 13:39:19 »

I mean really L, you get lose for a while then show up with this undecided cheesy. People know of Adrian. Why he doesn't post any pictures is his on reasons and really isn't that important. If it was, he would have done so.
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« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2008, 09:04:02 »

My apologise sir. I must have look over it somehow. Gosh I feel really silly right now embarassed. Most people who sell products such as these, or anyother, usually would have a photo or something. That's what  was looking for and I must have just over looked his biography doing so.
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