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« on: February 03, 2010, 11:54:41 »

I have sent 3 emails to Adrian since October with no response, so I thought before more time is spent, I should post here.

I am currently undergoing radiation treatment for prostrate cancer.

I have purchased the Chakra meditation which I listened to each night.  Before this my PSA level was normal.  Four months after starting the mediation, the PSA doubled - hence the current treatment.  

The meditation as you know focuses on Root Chakra which is in the area of my cancer problem.  Is it possible this could have aggravated my prostrate - could I have done something wrong?  I fall asleep after 10 minutes into it anyway.

In October I stopped the mediation awaiting a response of what to do.

Any advise very much appreciated.

thanks, Ken
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 13:45:01 »

Greetings Dear Ken, smiley

It is a pleasure to see you in here again even under such trying circumstances. My Heart is with you in support. I sense a flow here for you ~ as always take what may speak to you and leave the rest.

I am not so much sharing as a woman to a man here truly nor am I making light of your current circumstance. I am sharing as a fellow Being in Spirit extending who we are into the physical. Seeing beyond the circumstance and receiving what the underlying message is to bring deeper meaning to what you are experiencing.

In my observations of the healing process in myself as well as 'others' in my life, I have noticed that when ones begins the process of Re-covery that it seems as though the opposite is happening as in the case of your PSA levels doubling. Moving into shifting ground ~

The idea being that it is darkest before the dawn. This is a sign of healing truth. I call it the breaking up of fallow ground and this is what brings up the 'hidden' underneath the ground rubble needing to be removed from the soil to clear the bed for ongoing healthy growth. Not the 'funnest' part of the process. It can be grueling, trying and even scary as we move into the process.

We have to release what is keeping us from experiencing our Authentic Nature of Well-Being. Also known as walking through the valley of the 'shadow of death' to come to the place of knowing with certainty that we are being led through these seemingly strange occurances into the Light of Understanding that we are always being shown where our True Being, Eternally Alive is really coming from. We just have to change the way we are seeing it in our minds and how we feel about it in our Heart. Circumstances like this have the ability to change our perspectives on life from the way we have always known it. Now, we don't know as much about it as it we once thought or believed. (Not knowing state) The ground has been pulled out from under us so to speak or the by the root of what we really thought was sustaining us. This can lead to the grasping at thin air feeling, we begin to seek counsel from others or anyone who could bring us into experiencing this Peace we are wanting to have.

The Root Chakra is where our experiences that we grow into our lives is formed, our 'tribal' beginnings root. It seems to me that you are getting deeper into the Heart of the Matter and it is surprising to see how deep these things really are, uncovering what is being hidden from us until we have an experience such as you are currently experiencing that moves us beyond where we were once standing. While this may seem strange, I see this as a blessing in disguise. Something is being revealed to you throughout all this and the Intention is to lead you to your Highest Good to allow you to live within your Highest Potential. You are being 'transplanted' to grow more fully into your experience by the ground being turned into richer soil. You are getting to what is eating you up at the root deep inside is my deepest sensing here.

It was when I was willing to be open to shift my perception from 'why is this happening to me, life is so unfair, what is the use as it seems no matter what I do nothing turns out right' kind of mindset into what is the message here? What is Being communicating with me in this circumstance.

My world literally being turned upside down or uprooted, exposing the root to the light. Root Chakra. So, I can grow from a healthy root. The root of Eternal Life Being and not so much ingrained by a physical view of what life is here in this temporal realm. From a painful root experience to a healthy root experience.

By no means am I trying to tell you or anyone what to do or think, just sharing what was shown to me in going through the process which shows up differently for each one by what Love intimately knows about each one of us that will get our attention, so we can know this Loves intimate depths and be healed by accepting this Love in Trust (belief) now knowing that this Love has your 'name' engraved upon ITs Heart. That's how deep Love goes, to the core.

My view of my life circumstances has changed dramatically from being a 'curse' to seeing these through these things as a blessing (in disguise becoming more obvious) the more I experience these things, and has brought the blessings of Trusting that Life is forever giving of ItSelf to me if I am willing to turn myself around and face it, connecting with this Source of Real Life and then bringing it with me into this world as a visible form of Love. We move into the harvest of our experiences.

You have everything within you to Be Well. Healing comes from withIn first. The Divine Order of Life.

I sense you are undergoing a deep upheaval to clear away the blocked passages to free you up to Be All that You Are.

In closing, this is about feeling your way by what gives you a deep sense of abiding Peace. Getting in touch with you Ken, beyond the name of Ken and the identity of Ken as this world knows you. Deeper still. If there is unrest within, I can only InCourage you and InPower you to call upon the Divine to guide you into your knowing by shining ITs Light in you that leads to this Peaceful place of rest in Trusting that everything is working out for your Highest Good. Find the God in this experience and you will find who you are and whose you are.

I see you well Ken truly. It is your Birthright as a Child not of earthly parents but of the Most High God.

Loves Peaceful Presence expressing through this vessel,

Be Blessed, Be Well in Love,

Julia cool

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 14:14:42 »

Dear Ken,


While I totally agree with what Julia said - as in when overall healing happens in your body then the sensitive parts start flaring up or undergoing high activity.

But I am writing just to let you know, I am not sure where you do your treatment, but latest research shows that high PSA levels are not always indicative of cancer. Same goes with breast screening.

The cancer story goes like this: we all without exception have cancerous cells in our body. At times they happen to go up. Then just as normally levels go down. A human will go through these periods in life many times. truth is that a very few percentage actually go ahead and develops into a full blown manifestation of disease.

Now because the medicine these days is so fanaticised... people are introduced in treatments right away. Well new research shows that out of fear we may go ahead and fix something that is actually not broken in the first place.

Check this out: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091106145415.htm


My personal advice would be that now that you have started, go ahead do what you must do but at the same time be conscious of the fact that you are perfectly normal and medicine might have just made a hasty treatment mistake -  and visualise yourself all well and in happy healthy states of life. Your everyday wake up and going to bed mind frame should be focused on activities that you do with a perfectly healthy body. Live that future now.

All the best!!



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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 14:29:04 »

Oh Ken!!

I forgot about this. I personally think that root chakra meditation per se had no effect whatsoever in your pSA levels - HOWEVER there are no coincidences in the Universe. You getting that particular meditation at that particular time was a message for you to look after that area within yourself?!?
I had my personal experience also with certain messaging at that point in my life and for me was to get out of my human rowdy state.


For prostate DIET is very important!. Here is a free guide you download: http://www.prostatecancerfoundation.org/site/c.itIWK2OSG/b.1316899/k.19D/Nutrition_Exercise_and_Prostate_Cancer.htm

And if I may suggest a raw multicoloured food diet. The Hippocrates Institute made themselves famous by curing cancer with raw nutrition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKp6iuWBBYo


All the best - I see you well.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 15:25:46 »

Laura, Beloved Sister, smiley

I embrace you truly and I appreciate what you so generously offer here. Namaste`.

Ken, I would like to clarify something here due to reading Laura's excellent suggestions. Years ago, I was not in my best behavior life style wise and yet my Best friend was the one who began to change her eating habits and exercising with regularity and yet, she was not so much getting seemingly healthier, she began to experience more health issues.

Now, glancing back, what we both recognize is that this is when she really began the descent into digging up the root of her patterns in life as I equally was, only in a different way. And she would look at me, her 'prodigal' sister who was booming in health and say what gives?

When I shared about the Divine Order of Life, what I was sensing in the flow was that when we tap into authentically knowing ourself intimately from our Heart Space, we feel our way in the doing of these things as Laura suggests here and we find what works for us truly. Our Hearts and Mind are in agreement and this manifests in our physical reality. We really are this unique in our Oneness experiencing.

It's sensing and bringing our Being into the physical experience and seeing our experience transform. What this has done for me is allow me to tap into my Intuitive knowing and deeply trusting IT by going through this harrowing in moments experience.

Again, it isn't my intention to discredit the doing of these physical things at all, just doing these things as you are lead to Trust in your Innate Knowing of you intimately unlike any other.

It is my pleasure to experience both of you truly.

Much Love and Blessings Ken and Laura,

Be Blessed, Be Well ~

Julia cool
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 19:29:00 »

Dear Julia,

You are not discrediting anything. Smiley You are just wonderfully illustrating how we all should live our lives in harmonic flow with all that is. However it just so happens that not all of us are quite there yet. If we were we would do exactly what's natural, living in perfect Divine Order of Life...

Therefore for those that still pedal strongly against the flow is not possible to instantly turn around and just let go as much as we would like and as much as we are adviced. Is a learning process. So, for now every bit that brings one closer to what you so beautifully illustrated matters. Simply the learning, the awareness that a change even small that is humanly possible helps! and this is a big step at spiritual level.

Indeed action at physical level can only bring that much. But that action must come from a higher part of us that is motivating us towards that. And there is where the leap happens.


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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 21:14:41 »

I have sent 3 emails to Adrian since October with no response, so I thought before more time is spent, I should post here.

I am currently undergoing radiation treatment for prostate cancer.

I have purchased the Chakra meditation which I listened to each night.  Before this my PSA level was normal.  Four months after starting the mediation, the PSA doubled - hence the current treatment.  

The meditation as you know focuses on Root Chakra which is in the area of my cancer problem.  Is it possible this could have aggravated my prostate - could I have done something wrong?  I fall asleep after 10 minutes into it anyway.

In October I stopped the mediation awaiting a response of what to do.

Any advise very much appreciated.

thanks, Ken

Hi Ken,

Any problem that showed up physically , was already in the making for some time at another level. (So you did nothing wrong here chakra wise)

Do commence with using a 'full' Chakra routine, with 'good' thoughts to, counterbalance the thoughts you have expressed.

Also if not already doing so, use some Qigong exercises.
Simple one to learn is 'The Eight Pieces of Brocade'. (Dr Jang)
Do special breathing techniques. Check out 'Ki-Kou'.
Google both for more info.
Be Well
(did correct the main title spelling of' 'prostrate' to 'prostate')
http://www.thetalker.org/archives/411/47-talker-with-more-on-the-chakras/

http://www.thetalker.org/archives/368/37-talker-on-the-chakras/

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/vegans-diet-raw-foods-and-health-posts-t81.0.html;msg2994#msg2994

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/vegans-diet-raw-foods-and-health-posts-t81.0.html;msg2994#msg2994

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/vegans-diet-raw-foods-and-health-posts-t81.0.html;msg3001#msg3001
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2010, 20:51:14 »


Hello Ken,

Any type of illness means that energy is out of balance at some level in the etheric or other energy bodies of a person. The body usually tries to compensate any such unbalances, but if an illness manifests and persists, the body is not succeeding too well. We usually do not know how to consciously balance or receive extra energy to balance all our energy fields at will. At times we simply have a limited supply of  energy at our immediate disposal, which might further be in an unbalanced state, and even have breaches from where the energy leaks away from a person.

There is a saying, “Where a thought goes, the energy flows”, or something to that effect. And although what the saying mostly implies is that action follows a thought, but by the same token the energy within one’s energy field flows where one consciously concentrates it with a thought. By concentrating only on one part of the body, and if that spot happens to have an energy breach, a leak, a further unbalance might take place in the entire body.

The root chakra is the lowest chakra and expresses the strongest connection to the earth and the physicality of one’s being. According to homeopathy, the healing in the physical body has to be preceded by a healing in one’s energy bodies, in the spiritual aspect of a person, in the emotional and mental spheres, and in one’s etheric and energy envelopes. Once one can achieve the balance on those levels, it will automatically translate itself into balancing all the physical aspects of one’s being.

The root chakra receives too much stimulation in our modern society – too many sex references and stimulations, visual and otherwise all around us. Even something like rock music, with its beat, noise and sexual and gestural suggestions by the musicians, directly stimulates the root chakra.

In my opinion, the root chakra is not an ideal place to start one’s heeling especially in a total isolation to anything else. Doing the balancing of all the chakras all at one setting, as Talker suggested, might be much more effective, especially since in such an exercise one finishes with the crown chakra which relates to the higher spiritual vibrations of a person.

It might also be very helpful to direct one’s attention to one’s inner light, to conjure within a sense of a total emotional well being, and to work on elevating one’s emotions and thoughts spiritually.

1Jn 1:5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2010, 00:06:21 »

Dear Melody,  Smiley

Great energy work posting!!

How wonderful to see you posting. I missed you. Louis is going to be extatic.

Blessings and Love
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2010, 11:47:15 »



Thank you, Laura, for your kind words.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 23:32:17 »


Any type of illness means that energy is out of balance at some level in the etheric or other energy bodies of a person. The body usually tries to compensate any such unbalances, but if an illness manifests and persists, the body is not succeeding too well. We usually do not know how to consciously balance or receive extra energy to balance all our energy fields at will. At times we simply have a limited supply of  energy at our immediate disposal, which might further be in an unbalanced state, and even have breaches from where the energy leaks away from a person.

There is a saying, “Where a thought goes, the energy flows”, or something to that effect. And although what the saying mostly implies is that action follows a thought, but by the same token the energy within one’s energy field flows where one consciously concentrates it with a thought. By concentrating only on one part of the body, and if that spot happens to have an energy breach, a leak, a further unbalance might take place in the entire body.

The root chakra is the lowest chakra and expresses the strongest connection to the earth and the physicality of one’s being. According to homeopathy, the healing in the physical body has to be preceded by a healing in one’s energy bodies, in the spiritual aspect of a person, in the emotional and mental spheres, and in one’s etheric and energy envelopes. Once one can achieve the balance on those levels, it will automatically translate itself into balancing all the physical aspects of one’s being.

The root chakra receives too much stimulation in our modern society – too many sex references and stimulations, visual and otherwise all around us. Even something like rock music, with its beat, noise and sexual and gestural suggestions by the musicians, directly stimulates the root chakra.

In my opinion, the root chakra is not an ideal place to start one’s heeling especially in a total isolation to anything else. Doing the balancing of all the chakras all at one setting, as Talker suggested, might be much more effective, especially since in such an exercise one finishes with the crown chakra which relates to the higher spiritual vibrations of a person.
It might also be very helpful to direct one’s attention to one’s inner light, to conjure within a sense of a total emotional well being, and to work on elevating one’s emotions and thoughts spiritually.

1Jn 1:5  This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.[/size]



Yes Melody ~

There is no where where God IS not ~ Heaven or Hell ~

God IS Everywhere ~ All Ways IN Always ~

Searching the depths of man's imaginations ~

I shared a Psalm to this expression with a Beloved Kindred Spirit recently and you can look this one up ~

Psalm 139: 8 in your prefered translation (also known as King James Version) ~

'If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.'


Old Testament being revealed in the 'New' Testament idea ~ Perspective

This is why it is for our benefit to leave the door open not shut ...

Takusan Domo arigato Kahsan ~ Honto Yo!!

Melody, it's my pleasure to be in here with you ~

Ken? Follow your Heart leading you ~ ignore the outer symptoms and get down and dirty into the Heart of the Matter of You ~

Much Much Love to continue to share in the giving of Acceptance ~

Loves trail leaves an opening due to seeing with open (Innocent) eyes = I Am as You Are ~


Julia ~ at ease ~

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 12:56:50 »

Thank you all for your good wishes and advise!

I will revisit the chakra meditation.  However, it seems it may be best to do my own chakra meditation since Adrian's only focuses on the Root (hopefully the new full mediation will be available soon).

Ken
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 13:24:01 »

Dear Ken,


Vibes of speedy healing, love your way.


it may be best to do my own chakra meditation

I am glad that you got to the point of doing, whatever feels good to you at this moment. Forget about what anyone thinks is good for you, this applies to meditation, and all related. Find your own way...

Live long and prosper. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2010, 13:30:51 »


Hello Kan,

It is also very important to look into foods that one eats. In general eating more fruit and vegetables, aiming to eat a lot of them raw, is a good health choice.

Here are 2 quotations, one specifically about prostate cancer:

"The foundation pitted some foods against approved drugs and found that soy, parsley, red grapes, berries and other comestibles were either as effective or more potent in battling cancer cells."

"a Harvard Medical School study showing that men who ate cooked tomatoes several times weekly were 30 to 50 percent less likely to have prostate cancer"

Ccooked tomatoes are usually recommended for prostate cancer maybe because of a more effective absorptions of nutrients, especially in a weakened body. So pastas with a lot of tomato sauce should be good.

The quotations comes from this article:

Red wine and dark chocolate cancer killers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100211/hl_afp/usitfoodcancerted

I do recommend to read the whole article.

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 09:54:31 »

Thanks for the info.  Yes I have changed my diet and plan to change it further - it will be a good habit to get into.

Has anyone heard about Adrian's new full Chakra meditation.  I thought it was to be available by now.

ken
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