Projecting from a dream

[clarkbruce24]

Hey everyone. I'm new to this and am excited to have found a place where I can tell of my experiences and read others as well. Yesterday in the early hours of the morning I woke up to care for my newborn son. After tending to him I lay there in bed and had a dream that was very interesting. I had a dream that I was at my parents home and my father was there speaking to me about how to prove to others that there is life after death through EVP's. The conversation was lengthier in detail but as he was speaking to me a mist appeared in front of me and I started to feel strange, but not necessarily in a bad way, just different. I started to tell my father about what was happening when the mist continued to grow and then I felt my entire body start to vibrate. I have read a lot on consciousness projecting and knew about the so called vibrating that happens right before and it really excited me. I then felt myself lifted out of my body and towards the ceiling. I then realized that I couldn't breathe and then all of my focus went back to my physical body and realized that I had a stuffy nose. Because of that I woke up but could still feel the effects of the vibrations I had. I felt alive!
I guess that I never thought of projecting from a dream before just because of how you hear of people projecting from their meditative state. Has this happened to anyone else before? Or is what I experienced just a very real dream?     

Nathan     

[zensunni7]

Hello Nathan

Welcome to the twilight zone - first off, congratulations on your new son. Parenting will be be your most mystical experience yet, and your most rewarding.
I wasn't clear on whether your dad had passed on - but often when information is needed in our life, we receive it in dreams or that state between sleep and dream, which it sounds like you were in. Which in itself is very similar to a meditative state. Rather than the process of reception, I would focus on the content of the encounter.
The ' mist ' is also a common experience, as is the sensation of vibrating, as your how i a different vibrational realm than normal. That feeling of ' alive ' is awesome isn't it? Leaves you desiring to feel that way all the time, which I am sure is a part of your fathers message to you as well.
We tend to get caught up in the feeling of the mystical, and seek it out - yet when all is said and done, that feeling is yours for the asking whenever you choose to feel that way. It is also the way your new son feels all the time, so it can be related to him as you interact with him

Darrell

 

[clarkbruce24]

Darrell-

Thank you for your response. To clarify my last post, my father is still alive, so I don't know what it could have meant... It a hobby of mine to collect EVPs and my father seems to be the least bit interested in it. I thought it strange that he would be telling something like that to me.
I didn't realize that seeing a mist is also a common occurrence before projecting. That makes me even more excited!
I am also very grateful for my son. He is barely a week old but I feel he has been a part of me my entire life, the feeling is so strong.
Thank you once again for your response. I have read some of your posts and have enjoyed them thoroughly.

[zensunni7]

Hello Nathan

Thank you.
Glad to hear your dad is till with you. He may think about the things he revealed, but not express them to you, except in his own way, as your dream.
I felt that way about my children too, as if they had been with me forever. Mothers become mothers when they know they are pregnant - Fathers when they hold their child, hence all the flack for men's responses to pregnancy. We fell good, but cannot know until we hold them. Then we are truly Fathers.

Darrell

[Vibra]

I had a similar experience earlier last week while projecting, although it was not from a dream. This time was a bit different from normal experiences. I went through the meditative sequence of my normal projection and made it out. I was on a business trip in a hotel. This time I looked to my left and there was my granparents (both deceased) sitting in the room. The room was very similar to actuality but somewhat different. My Grandmother was younger than I remembered her at her death. She smiled communicated all is well and she was glad to see me. She was beaming with health and happiness.  It was a very profound/enlightening experience. Short and no real words spoken (as in lips moving) but none the less we were communicating. 
The feeling of being "alive" and energized after projecting is something everyone must experience at least once. It is unexplainable and could not be understood unless one experiences it for themselves. Welcome to your Awakening
Congrats on your son. Always remember he is much more in tuned to where you are trying to be, than you could ever imagine. Children have a natural ability to understand reality that should never be extinguished.
Be Well
Vibra
 

[clarkbruce24]

Thank you for that Vibra.
I had a pretty exciting experience this morning and have written it down but am still trying to process it. I have heard that you cannot try to interpret dreams according to the physical realm and maybe that is my problem, but it seems that some dreams seem contradicdtory or possibly made up from things on our mind. In my experience, which I will probably post, I was completely aware that I was projecting. But as the experience continued I seemed to lose myself in it and then became unaware that I was projecting and it seemed to turn into a very real dream. If I lose awareness in a projection does it diminish the experience even though I can remember all of it?
Nathan

[Gretch87]

That's very interesting, thanks for sharing.  Sounds like a very mystical experience.  I don't remember having any dreams like that but I'm sure it was profound to say the least.

However, last night as I lay in my bed going to sleep, I was listening to some hemi-sync music on headphones and about 20 mins into it I started feeling very relaxed and I could feel my face begining to vibrate.  At this point I became more alert and it went away 

Keep trying though.  If you don't keep a dream journal, you should really get one and make sure it is special.  The next step would be to increase awareness throughout your day.  take a moment when you think about it to stop what you're doing and do a reality check and just to become aware of your own awareness.  That is what I am trying to do now myself.  Time to see how it goes.

Welcome to the forum,
Justin

[clarkbruce24]

Thanks for the welcome Justin.
Is the Hemi-sync music you were listening to the sounds created by the Monroe Institute? I have read Robert Monroe's books and find them very interesting. The experience I had this morning made me think of the last book he wrote. In it he mentioned that he would project and then be brought into the presence of an intelligence that was in need of assistance. After thinking about my experience last night I truly feel that it is quite possible that I found myself in the belief territories. It was the very first time that I was aware of myself in a dream or whatever you would call it. I would like to relate my experience to see what everyone thinks about it. I have read much about astral projecting but have seemed to only start having success in doing it this week. Weird I know. Remember as you read this that I was aware at the beginning of this experience but somewhere I feel that awareness went away. In what part of the experience I can not exactly say.
This was what happened:
I was laying on my back letting my body fall asleep and focusing on staying awake when I realized that changes were occurring. On the back of my eyelids I saw what appeared to be ripples in water extending outward. Then I seemed to start flying or floating through these lights which led into a dark void. As I was going through this void I ended up in this tight, white tunnel space. I know it may sound funny but at the time I felt it to be something like a birth canal. I started to struggle my way through it when suddenly I found myself in this place of business it seemed. I had this sudden sense of urgency to get a message out to people. The first person I saw I recognized as I was running down a flight of stairs. I only reached halfway down after realizing that I recognized him and then went back up. This person I recognized is an acquaintance of mine, and according to my knowledge, he is still alive, though I haven't spoken to him in years. He was sitting down on a sofa-like chair with his legs propped up and his head down. I started to speak to him and possibly someone else in an urgent matter about the message that he needed to hear but for somewhere else felt the urge to leave. He was receptive to me and seemed to really want to hear this message. He started to cry and told me that I needed to find him and tell this message to him. Whether he meant in the physical realm or not I can not say. I had lost all sense of time and space which makes it interesting that I had a sense of urgency. Without telling him my message I ran down the stairs and found myself in a school-like environment. It seemed to be lunch because there were many people sitting down in the cafeteria. There were more people than in a usual school because there were 2 cafeterias separated by a  brick wall and a doorway that connected them. I remember standing on top of one of the long school lunchroom tables. I got everyones attention and started to speak to them about my experiences in the Mormon faith. I knew that my message was to persuade them to let go of religion, but I could tell by the look on their faces that they were expecting some great sermon that supported their beliefs. I saw many people I recognized, all of which I believe to still be alive. I went on to tell them of my decision to defend truth and not the Mormon faith, and how problems arise when assuming or believing they are the same. I was interrupted a few time by groups of people that were very loud and did not care. I got down off the table and with tears in my eyes I told this particular group of people how much I loved them and how they would probably be dissappointed to know that I was denouncing the Mormon religion. They all looked at me with incredible disappointment and walked away. The crowd dispersed and I remember standing there feeling incredibly depressed at not being able to reach them. I then walked into the hallway and saw a young man I knew from high school. I remember feeling like I should try to tell my message to someone else but was incredibly discouraged. I walked into a part of the building that seemed very church like and had classrooms with windows that covered the entire side of the classroom with the entrance. I saw men dressed up like seminary teachers walking around. I tried to leave and while doing so I found a bathroom with a stall that had a carpeted bench inside. I went inside so that I could sit down and get away from everyone and think. It was then that I woke up.
Somewhere during this experience there was a female that started to preach to me about Christ and her Mormon beliefs. I remember feeling how convincing it sounded and how I felt emotional but at the same time knew that this woman was the one confused.

There it is. Sorry it is so long. I'm really not sure what to think about it. But I keep thinking about the acquaintance that never heard what I had wanted to tell him. I wonder if he was the reason I was there and I deserted him. I don't know why I had the sense of urgency to leave and speak to others if that were the case though. I don't know what to think of it because nothing like this has ever happened to me before. But it was the first time that I was aware of myself during a dream, and it truly did feel like I projected.
Can anyone with experience tell me what to make of this?

[juliainkc]

Hi Nathan,

My I am feeling chatty today!

I'm not intending to deflect from your sharing and questions here so I will leave the step by step 'explaining' to another. I tend to be more childlike in these things in that I see them as normal experiences or messages from my Higher Self which seems to come through especially when I am in a deeply relaxed state.


I felt moved to respond because of what you shared about your friend and I had a vibe. When these type of things happen for me whether in 'dream' state or fully awake and a 'thought' or message pops up in my awareness, I check it out by responding to the message. I act on it and leave the results alone and later can see what happens or shows up. Doing this has strengthened my connection with my Intuition and not so much second guessing it.

Just sharing and encouraging you to go with the message you are asking yourself the question to;

Do I contact him or not? Follow your intuitions and they will occur more and more. The messages become clearer in shorter amounts of time. I am very interested in hearing back what unfolds by responding to your 'message' to yourself.

A thought that passed through years back is that 'everyone' we 'see' in our 'dreams' is us in some form, as within, so without. So I wonder what the urgent message is that you are sending to yourself based on this idea...

Just sharing my thoughts out loud of what I am sensing in the reading of your expresson here.

I appreciate you sharing and giving an ear to mine.

Love in Spirit,

Julia

 

[clarkbruce24]

Julia-
That is a very astute observation. I love your "childlike" interpretation. I will definitely consider the experience in the light that you shed on it. As for the friend of mine, I am not sure what to do. I don't feel the need to contact him at this time, but that may change.
Nathan

[Mina-Laura]

Heallo Nathan,


If you read this book: http://truepurposebook.com/home - your dream will make all the sense to you. Basically what you experienced is yourself - or the parts of the Self.

I got Tim's meditation CD and I had to have such an experience talking to all of them .. pretty cool!! as it was at a conscious level not as in a dream where they come and you have no real power then you wake up, and you have guilt trips and contraarguments from Ego.

Again if you subscribe here you will get lessons in the mail (free) - this will help you discover your parts. (Including your father who seems to be a major one   )

love

[juliainkc]

Hi Nathan,

Julia-
That is a very astute observation. I love your "childlike" interpretation. I will definitely consider the experience in the light that you shed on it. As for the friend of mine, I am not sure what to do. I don't feel the need to contact him at this time, but that may change.
Nathan

I think this is a wonderful place to be truly, not knowing what to do. When I have not known what to do or have not been sure if what I am hearing is what I am being prompted to move on, I wait on it, or let it go and have found that if it is something I am to act on, it comes around again. Otherwise it moves on and that is that... leaves empty space for more communication or leaves the way open to further communication.

This has deeply established my trust in my Higher Self always Being for my Highest Good and Highest Potential. It is part and parcel of the process. I view time as useful for gaining the experiences here that I desire to have that leads me full circle or cycle into home or myself.

Change is a constant it seems to me.

Again, I really do appreciate your wonderful expressions here Nathan, your thoughts are allowing mine to flow ...

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[clarkbruce24]

Julia and Laura,

I have no problem accepting that my dreams are reflections of myself, but how will I know if it is a dream (reflection of myself) or if I am having an OBE or am Projecting?

Nathan

[juliainkc]

Hi Nathan,

I have no problem accepting that my dreams are reflections of myself, but how will I know if it is a dream (reflection of myself) or if I am having an OBE or am Projecting?

I'm not intending to deflect from your sharing and questions here so I will leave the step by step 'explaining' to another. I tend to be more childlike in these things in that I see them as normal experiences or messages from my Higher Self which seems to come through especially when I am in a deeply relaxed state.

The beauty of sharing our tools with one another in the mix. Adrian, Talker, Darrell and others are very good at explaining the differences and Adrian does so in his book, 'Our Ultimate Reality'. Chapter 66 is on Astral Projection and Chapter 68 is on the Out of Body Experience. And taking a gander into Adrian's newsletter archives.

Also, if you type these points of interest into the search bar, it will bring up these topics already discussed in the forums here. This is just to help you out in your desire to know the differences.

I have an AFS which in my way of musing is an Awesome Filing System for me and/or possibly to another an Awful Filing System.

... I toss all my experiences into a 'folder' and file it away under dreams or other sensing experiences.

I am childlike in these things and ways ...

Just sharing my sense of humor of laughing at myself here Nathan and by no means intend to make light of what you are asking or seeking here.

I InJoy simple math (prefering multiplication to addition) and tend to focus not so much on separating out all the different aspects of an experience but focus more so on the 'message' or intention of what is being revealed through the experience.

I've used the 'tools' here I've developed through my experiences to draw pictures more so than by creating a subject, outline, subheadings format, etc per se. It all seems to come together in the blending, details and all for me.  Being more focused on where I Am and not so much on the how I am getting there kind of thing.

Spirit Being the experiencing of IT Self through all Its many experiences. Dis-covering It Self by realizing It is IT Self behind all the forms, masks, definitions and labels ... dreams, projections, OBE's and more.

I am not intending to discard your questions here Nathan and I trust that ones will come in and give you the type of information you are desiring to have in this moment.

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[Talker]

Julia and Laura,

I have no problem accepting that my dreams are reflections of myself, but how will I know if it is a dream (reflection of myself) or if I am having an OBE or am Projecting?

Nathan

Hello Nathan and All,
No criticism here, only observations voiced.
Hmmn, playing with unfamiliar toys, is it!  Like with Chakra routines, as I term it, up to a point there is little or no problem with the varied experiences one can have.
Are you dreaming! Hmmn, pay attention to the details observed. Mostly it depends on how far into a dream one is, and to what depth of consciousness one possesses IN the dream. If you question a thing or a set of circumstances at a given point during  the dream, chances are, your dreaming.  How many faces or forms are visible at the moment! All the details are relevant, along with the faces/forms observed. The type of conversation heard and answers given is the criterion for determining just ‘who’ is doing the speaking. If you hear and then raise an issue of ‘that’s not so’, it is your consciousness speaking and your dreaming. In that the bulk of symbolism, in a dream, can be highly personal, one needs to track and identify each on its own merit, for future reference. Experiencing OBE ‘without’ ones ‘intent’ to do so, can be quite awkward to cope with. If I recall from years back, even Monroe had some harrowing experiences until he learnt ‘control’. Yes, spontaneous OBE does take place. But, and a big ‘but’, circumstances and conditions need to be ‘just so’ for it to happen. Ordinarily, there should be no ‘unintended’ OBE’s.  Likewise with Projecting, there needs to be ‘control’, with all these activities. Precise ‘controls’ should be attended to prior to practicing things of this nature. Won’t go into much detail, but just imagine reaching for some object, and now seeing your hand or arm NOT being where it was expected to be, in fact not showing at all!
If one has to ask ‘am I projecting or not’, chances are, your not projecting, but dreaming or unlikely,in an OBE. There will be many differences ‘felt’ between OBE and Projecting, with experience you will know them.
Much more is involved and can be said, but for now……..
Be Well