Not to completley divert the subject here but the Native Americans are an interesting example. Perhaps this is a generalization but they are rather famous for their "Oneness" with the earth. This I believe they got right. But what did they do wrong?

If dis-eases are outward manifestations of inner issues, then how can we interpret small-pox and its substantial role in bringing Native American civilizations to their knees? Or  do we consider small-pox, being a virus, as its own group-entity with intentions to thrive and multipy like any other life form, and not a product of inner-issues? Could it have been MANIFESTED by inner issues in patient zero and given a need to breed and evolve on its own.

Was transmission of small-pox simply a biproduct of its manifestation on the physical level (afterall you can't deny that too much or little of one physical chemical or another in someones body for example will atleast temporarily cause negative side-effects.)

Or was the weaponization of small-pox (i.e. small-pox blankets) and its resulting horrors arguably the work of a sort of "evil voodoo." Negative thoughts effecting people negativley.

Thanks Garlan that was a great reply. Your english is just fine. I may have accidentally deleted your email thinking it was SPAM but I'll check again. I hope not.

To ease your mind, no I do not have that problem, but I like to think ahead. I DID however have a dream the other night which was pretty unusual to me. Or rather, a normal dream was interrupted, everything in the scene faded to black as an evil entity rose up in front of me. I knew that this thing was a demon and it was really frightening. But I also knew from information I gathered that it did not hold power over me if I did not let it. So summoning what I knew I banished it and woke up. I'd never had a dream like that, I was afraid because the demon seemed to interrupt my dream instead of being apart of it.

Your stories are very interesting. Running water and salt are very powerful, universal folkloric methods for dealing with unwanted energies.

Thanks for sharing,
Keith

Sometimes "sh*t happens." I mean we see it every day. Someone thinks they're invincible, and maybe they revel in that glory for awhile, until BAM, they pay for doing something stupid. Let me use the example of a young girl who thought getting pregnant just COULDN'T happen to her because she was a suburbanite princess soccer star blah blah blah. Then it happened, she got knocked up from having unprotected sex. That particular example-story gets worse, but my point is: She had unprtected sex, and they were both too stupid to put thought or intention or emotion into the possibility of getting pregnant.

So how do we interpret this mess to accomadate the Law of Attraction? Shouldn't she have attracted pregnancy by worrying about it? It seems contradictive. My only guess could be that before she was born she requested this lesson. I mean do they have contracts in the Astral Plains?

But doesn't it seem a little detrimental to the education of us earthbound folks to teach someone a lesson at a time when they aren't even attracting the consequences that catalyze said lesson? Or was the lesson simply "Don't be so irresponsible." Well clearly if that were the case she didn't learn her lesson because the young lovers killed and threw the baby into a quarry (That by the way was a GOOD example of LOA, what with their fear making things MUCH worse for them).

So what's the deal? I've come to the end of this post wondering if I'm writing a negative review on this girl's Higher Self for contradicting the Law of Attraction in order to get some life lesson across. But all in all, even though the LOA definitley makes sense and plays out every day, is it as immutable and black and white as I keep hearing about?

I mean are we not looking at an Epic Battle between the Law of Attraction and Laws of Biology? The reproductive machinery versus the mechanics of mind power?

Insights people, please! 

Here I go again.   

I'd like to bring discussion of how to properly dispose of a Oijah board onto the forum; particularly the debated practice of whether or not to burn them, typically for the purpose of ending a relationship with a nasty entity.

I'm interested in any stories, opinions, historical references, whatever.

Thanks,
Keith

Sorry I don't know where is most appropriate to post this thread.

I've read a little about Elementals from a John Michael Greer book called "Monsters." Contrary to the title of the book, elementals were refered to in more of a neutral manner (the rest of the book was about interpreting the monster myths in terms of magic and the metaphysical).

My question is, are elementals capable of harming humans or being taunted by them? I'm very curious to hear  Adrian's defenition of an elemental, as well as anyone elses imput.

I'm inspired to ask this question because of the Ghost Hunter's episode entitled "Attack of the Irish Elemental." In this episode there is talk of a "Negative Elemental" at Leap Castle in Ireland. While there one of the members of TAPS gets attacked with some sort of piercing sensation through his shoulder and falls to the ground. It is sort of implied that this Elemental attacked the team member.

Thanks!

I like how someone here put it, "The battling of oneself to escape the binds of disillusionment." Yes people go back to their daily clockwork lives, and most forget, but for those who don't the fight takes place within.

I saw the documentary twice myself. I agree that it was his unusual decision to return to The MAze off-season that got him killed. I believe the narrator says something about his familiar bears not being around, or atleast that there were clearly unfamiliar and more agressive bears in that area that part of the year.

He made a mistake. Period.

He was a guy who had the cojones to interact with freakin' Grizzly Bears, so yeah he was stupid and crazy. The guy clearly had an over-developed hero-complex, having been "Average" all his life (he was a frycook in California). He'd had no previous zoological education or anything like that. He just had a passion and a purpose doing what he did, and he amazed us. As with most people, it was probably his ego that got the best of him.

To tie this subject matter to this forum, I'd have to say its probably a beneficial thing when animals can interact lovingly with humans. They may develop a more individual conscious, moving away from the group mind of their fellow animals and furthering their evolution, if we are to use the OUR interpretations.

Well you definitley seem to be a very karmaicly-conscious person, so no trouble there I suppose.

I'm very interested in how you banished this entity. Was it an unseen presence or could you see it? What did it look/feel like?

I'm also interested in how to grow cacti and where you might find the uh? Seeds  ? But maybe we should email eachother privatley as its probably not in the scope of this forum to talk about it here.

My email is Rudiger650@aol.com, I would appreciate your advice.

Thanks!
Keith

I'm probably answering my own question on this one, but here goes...

I do believe that expectation is essential for succeeding at something. But alot of people focus on negative expectations, namley because we've all heard stories about people who didn't expect some bad thing and it happened anyway. This seemingly contradicts the Law of Attraction. For example, I was watching Oprah (I'm a guy, I watch Oprah sometimes, you wanna fight about it?  ) And recently as some of you may have seen, a girl was on there who was in prison for keeping her baby a secret and murdering it to maintain her "picture perfect teen life." Now she said she had unprotected sex all the time, and according to her she just "never thought getting pregnant could happen to a girl like her." Most of us would be like, well duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, but this does seem like a contradiction to the Law of Attraction. She had no expectation of getting knocked up.

Now, that's not necessarily true. As it states in OUR and in the works of Jose Silva, we sometimes have rough-patches in life that are unavoidable, so as to learn some sort of lesson that we volunteered to learn back in the ol' Astral Realms.

I realized that misunderstanding these lessons in life leads to a great deal of negative expectations in people's lives. Something bad happens, a loved one dies, you get made fun of as a kid, then you take it from there and snowball out of control with your own negative expectations.

Okay, not so much a question.
Comments?

I've read about quantum mechanics, and it seems pretty solid and legitimate, as far as it doesn't look like pseudo-science.

More personally I've experienced the Law of Attraction, and there are plenty of ways to reason that we manifest more negative by thinking negative, and manifest positive by thinking positive.

My only concern is that I don't see a well-proven or documented link between the two. The link itself is only implied: "Hey quanta reacts to expectations of scientists so we must be manifesting reality with our minds!"

What puts me on-guard further is that I'm deluged with mail and magazines talking about this phenomenon...then...trying to sell me crap. Well they won, they got their money, and I'm not saying it went to a bad cause. This all just seems frighteningly familiar to the radiation scams of (i think it was) the 19th century. After the discovery of radioactive materials, manufacturers put them in all sorts of rediculous products claiming they could "cure what ail's you." All it did was kill a bunch of people. Too bad we hadn't discovered the class-action suit yet. And on top of that nobody even turned into a super-hero like in the comics.

Comments anyone?
Keith

I think I know what you mean about the silver sparkles, I called them "sky-sperm" because to me they seem to wriggle around really fast, and I see them best looking into a bright blue sky on a sunny day. The Chinese call them air-prana I think, and the eye doctor told me they were merely white blood-cells.

I've never done those things, although one day I'll probably try. I find that if I do a drug, I'll usually have a good experience, then try to figure out how to make that experience happen naturally in everyday life. Taking Extacy was one of the first things that inspired me to find a path to natural bliss, that and good old fashioned Love of course. In both cases you find your inhibitions stripped away for a blink in time, then they gradually close back around you. But to me it always felt as if that bliss was inside of me all along, being blocked most of the time, not something I had to go out into the world to "get" or "take" or "add-on" to myself. I use EFT now to strip away negative feelings one layer at a time. Because EFT only erases negative feelings it has sort of proven to me to Love is an indestructible force of nature, and we can only hide it from ourself with illusions of the ego and incorrect lessons from our childhood.

I guess what I'm saying is its fun to use short cuts, because they can encourage you to invest in less dependent ways to be "high on life" or however you want to put it.

As for your karmaic debt, I doubt using the drug itself is of much consequence EXCEPT if the drug is harmful to your body, if people get hurt during the producing, smuggling, selling, or using of said drug, or if the drug itself sacrifices the plant it comes from, as maybe the case with cacti.

Just stuff to think about I guess,
Keith

I agree this use of fossil fuels is rediculous. The only countries that should be using it are the ones who can't quite afford to focus on environmental and improvement by themselves.

My question is um...when are these guys supposed to testify before congress?

I made a point to do some visualizing that day (i've been doing it intermittently latley), but you know, the pressure kind of got to me after all the "amplified by a thousands of times" stuff and I didn't have the best session. Oh well.

I'm 21, so, I'm going through that "Rock your Chakras" phase.