Hello Adrian,

Although many find your teachings essential for their spiritual progress, I cannot help but feel that it seems to be perfect for the modern “Me and I” generation with their absence of a sense of humility - a quality, in my opinion, essential for spiritual progress. The way your teachings might be taken in by individuals is to cater to their Ego, Power and Pride. And although you state that, for instance, the acquiring of Powers is not essential and might even be a deterrent for a spiritual progress, nevertheless, the constant emphasis on being Gods and all powerful, being the absolute channels of creation has nothing humble about it and has a great potential to stimulate Ego expression of many, thus really leading them away from being one with God.

Basically, I feel there is a dichotomy present in your teachings that might make many not to succeed in stated spiritual objectives: Individuals would strive to be one with God, yet might simply end up with stimulating and overstimilating their Ego quest for being all mighty and all powerful, thus defeating the objective of being one with God.

It appears to me that there are no Ego curbing techniques in your teachings, no points of  reference, of “reality checks” for those who are simply ending up with stimulating their Egos instead of actually progressing spiritually.

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Hello Adrian,

To refer to God as He is only a tradition. God is the ultimate creator of everything there is, including us. And the majority of Christians understand this.

The fact remains, we did not create ourselves. God - the Universal consciousness created us, as it is creating millions of other living life forms within this magnificent Universe. Not only have we not created ourselves, we have absolutely no know-how how to create any of the life forms except for giving birth to children, a function not designed by us either. And although we can realize God within, we still will not be able, at least not at this level where we are right now, to create even a fly out of nothing. Mind you, maybe we can create some microbes in a tube according to the DNA video posted recently in the forum, but did we really create them, or only supplied the environment so they can be created by a principle designed by God that we have no understanding of? Even if some mystics can make a tree grow very fast from a seed, they still have not created this life-form, only rearranged somehow the energy supply to that plant.

I am not really sure why you consider that a person cannot attain a sense of oneness with God through prayer. Many Christians do and the vivid examples are Christian saints who did just that. A prayer is a sort of a meditation. When not recited mechanically, it creates a sense of oneness with God and everything there is.

Many people who meditate have a special meditation room, or a corner of the room set just for practicing of meditation, and this fact of designating a separate space helps in deepening the meditative experience, and establishing a feeling of peace within, creating an experience of communing with the Universal Mind, with God. Many people also go to Ashrams to meditate, and find it is easier to meditate in such places away from everyday tasks and worries. The church serves exactly the same purpose. But you are absolutely right that the mechanical church going and prayer recitation, in the same way as a mechanical mantra repetition would have very little effect.

I am not really sure what you call theology, or theological. The way you use this word sounds like it is something bad. Does anybody who opens their mouth and says anything about the Bible is speaking theology? Am I speaking theology by stating it is so far only the God’s privilege to create living forms  or provide the function by which they are created, and that as much as we try we just cannot do it, and therefore non us is God in that regard? Maybe we had this function once upon the time. Maybe it was when we were  at some higher plane at some mythological  Garden of Eden. And maybe we just lost it when we misaligned ourselves from the Universal creative Power, with God.

Are we ever going to have the ability of creating life forms? Is this what being God is all about? Then non of the people who claim to have realized God within can claim to be Gods, because they cannot formulate the functions and principles by which living forms are created. They can provide an environment, they can speed up or stop the processes, they can modify to a certain degree as with DNA modification, yet they cannot supply the original life principle..

And since this is the case, than let us not claim that somebody is more God-realized than the other because that other goes to a church, and that Christians with their theology have no chance to realize God within. Because by realizing God within we do not mean of acquiring the ability of creating life forms, but simply creating a feeling of oneness with God, and a sense of communion with the Ultimate Creator, and a sense of the Universal Love. And that feeling can be achieved by many means, and even through prayer and church going, and even through listening to a “theological” discourse by a priest, or listening to classical or church music, or simply watching the clouds or listening to a bird's song.  All of those are just external trigger points. People react to different triggers, and it does not really matter which trigger a person is using to achieve the inner Peace, Love, and the feeling of Oneness with God. Regardless of whether one is using OUR, Bible, Koran, or Buddhist texts, the real job still has to be done within. It is not those texts that would do it for you. Ultimately, the written words do not matter, it is the feeling that one can master inside, sometimes triggered by those words, sometimes triggered by something other than words.

I would like to congratulate you for writting a book - Our Ultimate Reality - that is the appropriate triger for many modern people and it works for them to make them want to seek the realization of God within, whereas the more traditional triggers, or those of music or nature do not work for them.

It is said that Christians upon passing will find himself in a realm of a believe system. And since it will be an astral plane where all wishes are being answered, they will think they had entered Heaven, the eternal Garden of Eden, and will be stuck in this astral plane without knowing it, with no means of any further progress.

Maybe one can refer to Christian’s faith as a believe system, but the fact is Christians believe and trust God, and seek communion with him. They try to attune themselves to God and to his will = to his teachings = to his way of being. Therefore, even if they end up at some plane according to their “ believe” system,  which most likely would be not a high but some intermediate plane,  they would nevertheless be still relying on God = attuning themselves to him. Being ardent believes in God, they would always seek to be close to God - to be attuned with God - regardless of the plane they will find themselves in. And this attunement will cause them, I think, not to be stuck at any particular plane but to continuer their progress as they seek closeness with God, thus being led to higher planes.

Even in the Earthly plane the apparently mistaken suppositions are made known to many, and that will continuer happening at any plane, whatever a person might believe at first where he finds himself, especially if a person will continue his attunement with God, and with the Love and Power that is God.

Hello Adrian,

Could you please elaborate on the truth of Lucifer, what it is exactly that is needed to be understood about Lucifer for spiritual development.

Hello Aspect,

I see that you are concerned with the Holy words, and the name of God. There is a practice in Buddhism where they repeat as a mantra a name of a holy person, of a Bodhisattva, and contemplate it. It is one of the meditation methods. They also meditate on the sounds of vowels and syllables. So your practice with the holy words is very sound and I can see how it can achieve the spiritual effects you are experiencing.

Hello Wavepshychic,

I did not call Adrian a Luciferian, but referred to the ideas stated in his newsletter as Luciferian. That newsletter, in which he stated that it is the time to reveal the truth about Lucifer really upset and disappointed me.  Before I posted that post, I asked Nick, the moderator, whether it would be OK to do so, and he said I should go ahead and do it, that we were all here to learn, including Adrian (Nick’s words). So I did not do something horrible by posting that topic.

Hi Melody,

You do ask a lot of good questions. Don't feel alone. I can suggest some reading material for you. The book of John for one. Also I John, as well as Colossians. Both of those letters were written to address the issue of Gnosticism and mysticism that were already making inroads into the church even before the end of the first century. These letters were written to reassure believers that Christ is sufficient for spiritual attainment, and there is no need for other special knowledge to be dispensed by so-called teachers.

aspect

Hello Aspect,

Thank you for the suggested readings. I will look into them. And thank you for the kind words.

Hello Adrian,

If I question more what you say rather than what others say, it is because it is your teachings. That is one and only reason. To me this is not a negative questioning, but rather a way to get a fuller picture and understanding of what you teach and/or, to a lesser degree, how you implement that teachings.

It is undeniable to me that Jesus had lived his teachings completely, to the very last word of it, to the very last commandment he reiterated. And that is something I consider very highly. So he, in a sense, is a measuring beacon to me.

Hello Melody,

I do not view the difficulty ot otherwise of questions from male or female any differently - I do not even recognise the difference - from a Spiritual perspective that is.

You miss the point. It is not your actual questions as much as the intent behind them. But we have had this discussion many times before as have others with you, so there is little to be gained by going over it again.

As for the origin if knowledge - do you accept the knowledge and teachings of Jesus for example without question?

Kindregards,

Adrian.

Hello Adrian,

Although you and others seem to see some intend behind of what I say, the only intend there is, is to find my way through various teaching to the one and only spiritual reality. Although the ways of getting there might be numerous, that spiritual reality is one and only. Various people and teachings interpret it quite differently, and it seems to me to be a maze. Many new teachers have sprung up lately, each of them with a bit different take on the things. This is why I gravitate towards something that has survived the ages. I do question the Bible and try to grasp the concepts in it. And I do make the distinction between the Bible and the institutionalized religion.
   
When I come across religious people I always ask a lot of questions, especially to those who had spent time studying the Bible. I found them always very patient to explain stuff to me. Non of those people have ever told me they felt challenged by my many questions, and that there was some intent behind my questions, even when I humored theological teaching to the point of making jokes of it. In a sense I am measuring the teachings and comparing them to each other and always somehow ending at the Bible. That might be something bad from the point of view of many on this forum, but I have to be true to my own path and my own searchings.

Hello Melody,

I am sure you know what I mean without me spelling it out to you.

There are hundreds of posts in this forum that consist of you endeavouring to shed doubt about my sincerity, knowledge and sources, I assume because you are hoping to "expose" me in some way due to issues that exist entirely in your own Mind.

Challenging the content of my posts is fine, but you are not doing that - you are challenging me as a person.

It is disappointing when I spend so much of my time in writing books, creating websites with hundreds of articles, providing these forums in which I have made over 1000 posts - all as my service to humanity, only to have people attack me or my words in some way and for some ulterior motive.

Notwithstanding that - I have taken the time to respond to every one of your hundreds of emails directed at myself.

I have a particularly aggressive person hounding me by email right now as well - but I remain patient because I recognise the fact that it is all part of the human condition, and everyone is on a learning experience.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
 

Hello Adrian,

I am not trying to expose you in any way. I probably just have a very idealistic perception on some subjects, and I have a hard time comprehending how the true knowledge comes to somebody. I really see nothing in my today’s posts that is trying to “expose” you. I have not claimed anything about you that you have not stated yourself, and I simply wanted to know whether some of your knowledge might be also coming from spiritual guides or even from the Internet. I really do not understand what is exactly in my today’s post that is trying to “expose” you. I have seen much tougher questions being asked to you by some male participants, even Baki’s question about your Mind Entrainment Studio was - I found - really much more challenging than my today’s post. Yet you have never claimed that they were challenging you. I guess you do not feel challenge when males ask you tough questions. Or maybe it is because the same males praise you in other posts. As for me, I cannot begin praising anybody’s perception of anything, including that of the Cosmos and other such matters until I am 100% ascertain that everything in that point of view is somehow substantiated and makes total sense to me.

Hello Melody,
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Apart from that I am not going to be drawn in to yet another "challenge Adrian" series of posts.

Hello Adrian,

It is really too bad you feel challenged by my posts. When I read your other posts I actually thought you felt good about having all this information about the humanity and its spiritual path without having many books in your house, and I thought that you would elaborate further on the specific way you receive your information. I never imagined that my present question would therefore challenge you.

Feeling challenged has an aspect of being defensive. But is there anything to defend?

I come from a background where questions are freely asked in a direct manner and are freely answered, without conditions being elaborated on how one should ask the questions, or what one can ask the questions about. And I thought that this forum would be just such an environment as well… (Besides, there was never anything rude or profane about any of my questions).

Well, this is really too bad that you feel challenged by my posts…

Hello Adrian,

I am not sure why you consider my previous post negative. I was just curious how do you do your research. I am sorry, I should have quotted you more fully. Here is the text below from your quote:

Genesis was almost certainly written by, or at the time of Moses around 1450 - 1410 BCE, and therefore around 1450 years before the official birth of Jesus.

My research also suggests that Genesis was heavily influenced by the earlier Summerian legends, for example the Epic of Gilgamesh which contains the earliest recorded account of the Great Flood where Utnapishtim and his wife built a boat which they filled full of animals and which were the only survivors. The only aspect of this legend that substantially varies are the names of the characters.

Almost the entire Old and New Testaments can be traced back to, often recurring legends originating from previous early civilisations including the birth, death and resurrection sequences of the Gospels which are basd upon astrology, or more specifically astrotheolgy.

My own research suggests that he may have lived two or three hundreds years before his official lifetime, and that when Constantine brought together the various fragments that formed the cannon of the Bible, he based them around the teachings of this character from a few hundred years before.

This type of data is not found in the Bible alone. There are no statements to this effect in the Bible. And since you don't read books, I was just wondering where from do you gather such information.

I really have no ulterior motive when asking this question. I simply and really want to know how do you come to state what you state. If you get this information by simply reading the Bible, does that mean that the Source tells you that, the Source tells you that Jesus lived several hundred years before the times we believe he lived in?

My research also suggests that Genesis... 

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Hello Adrian,

In your above post you talk about your research, yet in other posts you told us that you don’t read, have never been an avid reader, and have only a few books at your home, not even enough to fill one book shelf. I am quite curious how do you do your research? Is it mostly what the spirit guides tell you? Or do you only read what you find on the internet? In my opinion the internet sources should be double checked. The information might be biased or not reliable.

In case you do use internet sources for your research but do not consider it a reading , did you also use internet sources as a research source when you were writing your OUR?

Hello Apect and all,

I find that the best way to quote is to use the Quote button on the top right of the post. This way the quote will come with a heading - the name of the author, as well as date and time, so one can go back and check the entire text, if one wishes to do so.

-   If one presses the Quote button, then the whole text of that post will appear in the Reply window.
-   If you wish to use just some parts of the text, it needs a clean up job.
-   Place your courser at the begging of the text you wish to delete, left click your mouth, drug it to the end of the text you wish to delete up to the text you wish to quote. The text you wish to delete will be highlighted. Now hit Delete button and that text will be gone.
-   Now go to the end of the passage you want to quote and write [/quote].
-   Write your response to that passage.
-   If there are more passages you want to quote from the same text, put your courser at the beginning of the passage you want to delete and highlight it up to the part you want to keep. Delete it.
-   Write in front of  this next  passage you want to quote {quote} (with square brackts) leave the text you want to quote and write {/quote} with square brackets. Reply to it. Clean the rest.
-   Be sure to delete the final quote command [\quote] at the end of your writing, if it is still there. Otherwise your entire post will come out to be a quote.

You can also quote from several posts either from the same person or from different ones in the same reply. To do that, open a second browsing window, go to the forum, find the passage you want to quote, press Quote button, clean it up the text the way you want it. Highlight it. Right click – Copy – open the original browser, Paste it in the reply box where you want it.

This way you will quote lets say two different people, yet on top of the first quote you will have a heading of who said it and when.

Hello Aspect,

The points you presented are quite interesting. I personally find Bible very fascinating, but that was not always like that. Now, I seem to be more and more inclined to study it. One always discovers some amazing stuff in the Bible… At the moment, I don’t have time delving into and searching through the Bible.  I am curious though what else you’d discover about the Bible.