Physical Reality and questions

[mcdwg11]

Hello everyone, I'm very new so I hope I am posting on the right section. I have read a few posts I believe it was here or a different forum where people ask why do we need a body, why be here when this world only has suffering and pain. Would it be accurate to say that looking at the bigger picture everything we have in this world, joy, pain, suffering, happiness, are all experiences that we (souls, spirits, original self) want to go through for the sake of learning? Now I have read that our physical reality was created by all of us (souls, spirits, original self) as a means to learn and experience and still be in harmony with our original self but overtime we have strayed from the original intent and now at this point in our physical reality as a human race are less in tune with our higher self thus the ego factor, materialism, wars, suffering. Was all this the plan or a deviation from the original plan?

i have also read that our reality is just a deception for other beings to feed off from our energy. Dark beings who feed off from fear, emotions thoughts. And these beings are constantly coercing light beings to being incarnated for the sole purpose of providing energy. Is this just false or any thoughts about this?

Then there's us who in one way or another have come to question religion beliefs, society rules, or are open minded enough to study other possibilities rather than accept what has been instilled in us since childhood. How can one measure a level of understanding, or spiritual growth. I know at this point i'm just scratching the surface where I feel that I am here to gain experience from my higher self to ultimately reunite with the source, but how do I go deeper from the surface and measure my understanding or growth.

I know it is a lot of pondering and I would appreciate anyone's comments or opinions.

Thank you

Ruben

[juliainkc]

Hello Dear Ruben,

A very warm welcome to the forums. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences here with us.

Hello everyone, I'm very new so I hope I am posting on the right section. I have read a few posts I believe it was here or a different forum where people ask why do we need a body, why be here when this world only has suffering and pain. Would it be accurate to say that looking at the bigger picture everything we have in this world, joy, pain, suffering, happiness, are all experiences that we (souls, spirits, original self) want to go through for the sake of learning? Now I have read that our physical reality was created by all of us (souls, spirits, original self) as a means to learn and experience and still be in harmony with our original self but overtime we have strayed from the original intent and now at this point in our physical reality as a human race are less in tune with our higher self thus the ego factor, materialism, wars, suffering. Was all this the plan or a deviation from the original plan?

The wonderful thing about being a participant in the forums here, is that it is like a Universal Journal. We have the opportunity to view diverse angles to the questions and ponderings of what is this Life experience for? I participate in a take what speaks to you and leave the rest 'position' meaning that what I share is intended as a suggestion and not so much to explain to another how one must see something. That is my Hearts intention. A speaking out loud to myself ... with this said ...

Anyone here in this reality, 'signed up' for, agreed to the experience. The Curriculum as it is called in A Course in Miracles is not changeable. In other words, we are here to experience Life on planet Earth, living in a form. How we live in our form is up to us. We can choose how or the way we will experience the Curriculum  ~ Experiencing from the fear view that leads to pain and suffering is not living, it is merely 'trying' to survive.  

Love's view is Lived being permeated by Peace, that All is Well. It's an inside 'job'. Anyone who has ever lived in this reality can relate to living from pain and suffering at some point, many do not really deeply realize that one can choose to live pain and suffering free. I will share that I do not believe in a deviation from the original plan. Source is All Knowing and non-interfering in these things.

We have free will to create anything we are capable of thinking of. And this is how all of us are living right now. We are living from what we think of the most. We are this Powerful however many are 'abusing' their power and do not realize it because they 'think' things are happening 'to' them and not so much coming from them.

We are creators as Divine Sparks of the Creator of All Life. I will say that we cannot experience harmony with our Authentic Self and remain in pain and suffering although pain and suffering are a mirror that leads us into remembering our Self and not the image or backwards reflection in the mirror. We 'need' a mirror to remember what we look like kind of idea instead of Living I Am ...

i have also read that our reality is just a deception for other beings to feed off from our energy. Dark beings who feed off from fear, emotions thoughts. And these beings are constantly coercing light beings to being incarnated for the sole purpose of providing energy. Is this just false or any thoughts about this?

Well, there are so many ideas floating around yes? Anything is possible to the one whom gives it power of thought. Focusing on a thought like this gives it energy. As to co-ercing light beings, I would say that the responsibility lies within each one to accept or not accept the temptation. No one can force you nor I to do anything against our will and to think this way only reveals a weakness in our minds by not taking Mastery of our life, we give our Power away to 'others' we think are outside our sphere of influence.

Then there's us who in one way or another have come to question religion beliefs, society rules, or are open minded enough to study other possibilities rather than accept what has been instilled in us since childhood. How can one measure a level of understanding, or spiritual growth. I know at this point i'm just scratching the surface where I feel that I am here to gain experience from my higher self to ultimately reunite with the source, but how do I go deeper from the surface and measure my understanding or growth.

I know it is a lot of pondering and I would appreciate anyone's comments or opinions.

Thank you

Ruben

How can one 'measure' a level of understanding or spiritual growth? How much Peace do you feel in your Heart, how still is your Mind, how clean and pure are your thoughts towards yourself and others? The deeper you go into your awareness of your Authentic Self the deeper the Silence or stillness of your HeartMind and the less pain and suffering you feel. Your Peace expands within you, it fills you and permeates you and your life circumstances because you are manifesting, creating your reality by the seeds of thoughts you are daily nurturing, feeding and then harvesting.

We are fully capable Beings, this is not earned, we came into this experience with this Intact. We just have forgotten. And 'Churchianity' has done alot of damage of keeping ones under slavery and control by constantly feeding fear based thoughts into ones of their unworthiness. Undoing the very things that the One they say they follow came to bring to our Remembrance. I and God are One and the same Energy.

God is another word for Good. So, focusing on thoughts of Goodwill for ourself and towards others and practicing on these things will yield a fruitful harvest that is fit to eat and will maintain ones health in abundance. Tend to your seed garden, your thoughts. Keep a watch on them and filter them by choosing thoughts that fill you with Loves Peaceful Presence.

We are ponderers yes? So, I say, ponder away Ruben, just ponder on uplifting thoughts and you will reap the benefits of InJoying life in verdant meadows and not so much experiencing life as a battlefield, from a 'need' to survive the experience. You will feel the difference my friend ... question any thought or idea that does not allow you to feel Loves Abiding Presence ... and replace it with one that does.

Just sharing food for thought,

Many Blessings, Be Well,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[mcdwg11]

Hello Dear Ruben,

A very warm welcome to the forums. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences here with us.

The wonderful thing about being a participant in the forums here, is that it is like a Universal Journal. We have the opportunity to view diverse angles to the questions and ponderings of what is this Life experience for? I participate in a take what speaks to you and leave the rest 'position' meaning that what I share is intended as a suggestion and not so much to explain to another how one must see something. That is my Hearts intention. A speaking out loud to myself ... with this said ...

Anyone here in this reality, 'signed up' for, agreed to the experience. The Curriculum as it is called in A Course in Miracles is not changeable. In other words, we are here to experience Life on planet Earth, living in a form. How we live in our form is up to us. We can choose how or the way we will experience the Curriculum  ~ Experiencing from the fear view that leads to pain and suffering is not living, it is merely 'trying' to survive.  

Love's view is Lived being permeated by Peace, that All is Well. It's an inside 'job'. Anyone who has ever lived in this reality can relate to living from pain and suffering at some point, many do not really deeply realize that one can choose to live pain and suffering free. I will share that I do not believe in a deviation from the original plan. Source is All Knowing and non-interfering in these things.

We have free will to create anything we are capable of thinking of. And this is how all of us are living right now. We are living from what we think of the most. We are this Powerful however many are 'abusing' their power and do not realize it because they 'think' things are happening 'to' them and not so much coming from them.

We are creators as Divine Sparks of the Creator of All Life. I will say that we cannot experience harmony with our Authentic Self and remain in pain and suffering although pain and suffering are a mirror that leads us into remembering our Self and not the image or backwards reflection in the mirror. We 'need' a mirror to remember what we look like kind of idea instead of Living I Am ...

Well, there are so many ideas floating around yes? Anything is possible to the one whom gives it power of thought. Focusing on a thought like this gives it energy. As to co-ercing light beings, I would say that the responsibility lies within each one to accept or not accept the temptation. No one can force you nor I to do anything against our will and to think this way only reveals a weakness in our minds by not taking Mastery of our life, we give our Power away to 'others' we think are outside our sphere of influence.

How can one 'measure' a level of understanding or spiritual growth? How much Peace do you feel in your Heart, how still is your Mind, how clean and pure are your thoughts towards yourself and others? The deeper you go into your awareness of your Authentic Self the deeper the Silence or stillness of your HeartMind and the less pain and suffering you feel. Your Peace expands within you, it fills you and permeates you and your life circumstances because you are manifesting, creating your reality by the seeds of thoughts you are daily nurturing, feeding and then harvesting.

We are fully capable Beings, this is not earned, we came into this experience with this Intact. We just have forgotten. And 'Churchianity' has done alot of damage of keeping ones under slavery and control by constantly feeding fear based thoughts into ones of their unworthiness. Undoing the very things that the One they say they follow came to bring to our Remembrance. I and God are One and the same Energy.

God is another word for Good. So, focusing on thoughts of Goodwill for ourself and towards others and practicing on these things will yield a fruitful harvest that is fit to eat and will maintain ones health in abundance. Tend to your seed garden, your thoughts. Keep a watch on them and filter them by choosing thoughts that fill you with Loves Peaceful Presence.

We are ponderers yes? So, I say, ponder away Ruben, just ponder on uplifting thoughts and you will reap the benefits of InJoying life in verdant meadows and not so much experiencing life as a battlefield, from a 'need' to survive the experience. You will feel the difference my friend ... question any thought or idea that does not allow you to feel Loves Abiding Presence ... and replace it with one that does.

Just sharing food for thought,

Many Blessings, Be Well,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

Thank you very much Julia for such uplifting, welcoming message, I am so glad to have found this forum where I can relate to most of what is said. I have to say that there is a part of me that tells me it all makes sense. I have read the old testament and I asked myself why did God have to create wars between his people, why do we have to fear him. I now understand God is all of us not just a deity that judges us or punish us, we are all part of God learning and waiting to take our experiences back when we transition.

I have to admit though that there is always that voice of skepticism. Always asking is this for real? It is faint and I hope that by learning more and more that this skepticism will finally fade.

You asked me how much peace do I feel in my heart? how still is my mind? how pure and clean are my thoughts? All this in order to measure my growth. I have to say I have a long way to go. I am trying to balance many aspects of my life to be able to say I am at peace. You see I am a US Marine and very proud to serve my country but in many ways the teachings of being a Marine contradict the path I want to take. For instance in the Marines we are told to be better than the average person and all I want is to feel at peace with everyone else. Usually the loudest the one who always wants to make his/her presence known is the one celebrated as the better Marine. I like to contribute anyway I can without having to be on the spot so I guess what I am trying to say is that the Military being my lifestyle is like the world where there is competition as to who is more popular, who can overstep on people in order to advance, only this military lifestyle is a couple of times worse than the world out there, so I try to look for balance as to growing spiritually, finding peace within myself and at the same time being effective at what I do, can anyone give me suggestions as to what they do to find balance between the everyday world and finding peace in one's heart?

Thank you

Ruben

[juliainkc]

Dear Ruben,


You are welcome and I appreciate your response. I wish to say here that God did not create wars between Its people. People do.

This is one of those deeply ingrained thoughts taught over and over again about a God of vengeance. The Old Testament reveals what is in the heart and mind of mankind creating when forgetting whom one is by living in separation from ones God connection in ones Heart and Mind. Existing as an unconscious being. Given free run of the house and acting like 'beasts'. It is a very clear 'picture' of reaping what one has sown based on ones thoughts.

Everything we see in our everday life is directly related to what we are harboring within. This is very tough to understand when beginning to realize, breaking through the veil, that there is something else we know is here yet we are still 'trying to figure out' what IT IS? It is the direct connection that our thoughts are doing this. We are creating these things.

We fall asleep to this realization and go on auto pilot by thinking that life is a random series of acts commited by 'others' and we are just 'pawns' in a game of Strategic Chess.

The life of the Military is a discipline and yes, I see what you are saying about the seeming contradictions to what you are desiring to experience because it is also about 'following orders' of an authority, not so much making decisions for yourself, the chain of command. You have placed yourself in this postion to gain experience.

I see this as an analogy really. Right now, you do as you are told or you follow orders from the 'Higher Ups' and you must do this even when you feel it isn't the 'right' thing to do or you become insubordinate. This can and has created in many a sense of Higher Ups being out of touch with what is going on in the midst of daily events or the 'thicket'.

This is how many 'mistakenly' view 'God' in my honest opinion. We feel God is so far removed from us. Well yes and no. God does not see any war like we do. We really do think Source is like us and not so much we are like Source. We think God thinks like we do. We see war or separateness and God sees Love because this is what God IS. This is what I see that creates the desire to reach for something we know is here yet we do not feel connected to IT. It is hidden from us by our way of thinking.

God is not 'out there', God has always been in here. It does take awhile to hit the 'Mother Lode' because we are far more deep than we realize and have buried the gold or God in us through our upbringing and environmental influence.

It is an eye opening experience when we see the wall or walls coming down and are beginning to make the connection. Our God in us revealing IT Self to us as us.

Hmm Julia what is all this leading to? Well, we tend to view life as unfair and in moments we tend to think our life circumstances are unjust. When we are able to shift our perception to everything in our life has been and is Just then we will feel the Peace of Love and ITs Power. All these things have molded us to this very moment. And we are the ones molding our Self. We are Children of the Most High and have been given the ability or Power to be as our Source whom we come from.

Just felt this flowing for you Ruben. And, how can you find balance in the everyday in Spirit? Walk IT by Being IT. Truth. Walk what you think based on your Highest Thoughts. When our words 'match' our actions in what we feel is right behaviour, then we are in harmony with our Self. Confusion and not knowing is when we are creating a wall between our Knowing and our doing. We are not doing what we know in our Heart to do. This is not harmony nor living Authentically.

So, pay attention to your thoughts and Invite your Holy Teacher within to open your eyes to seeing the correlation of what you are daily creating with your thoughts and how to fill your mind with thoughts of Love, Peace, Harmony and Joy.

Be a Military Soldier of your Mind. Stand watch over your household your Inner thoughts, and you will know Peace that passes all understanding. Bring Gold or God thoughts in by being willing to do this and be willing to change your mind and you will find that you already know what to do. We just forget.

What 'religion' does honestly, is remove ones desire to be intimatly knowing of this idea of God, they make us out to be slaves to a vengeful master whom can never be satisfied. It leaves a bitter taste in many mouths and so, we throw the baby out with the bath water so to speak. Keep the baby, change the water.

Something to 'tuck into your pocket' Ruben that has assisted me in staying focused;

'We do not attract what we want, we attract what we are.' ~ James Allen (author of 'As A Man Thinks' (Mark Allen's version))

May Loves Peace surround you Ruben.

In Grace, Harmony and Loving Kindness,

Julia

[mcdwg11]

Thank you Julia once again, your words really make a lot of sense.

I guess practice makes perfect and as I practice good thoughts and try to walk my path things will begin to fall into place, and I have to say I have noticed slight changes already where there are certain situations where I would be very tense, with thoughts racing through my mind but as I have started to meditate and tried to make sense of my new path then it feels like things have slowed down and I find answers more rapidly without having to look for one.

Again thank you very much Julia

Ruben

[juliainkc]

You are warmlly welcomed Ruben.

Thank you Julia once again, your words really make a lot of sense.

I guess practice makes perfect and as I practice good thoughts and try to walk my path things will begin to fall into place, and I have to say I have noticed slight changes already where there are certain situations where I would be very tense, with thoughts racing through my mind but as I have started to meditate and tried to make sense of my new path then it feels like things have slowed down and I find answers more rapidly without having to look for one.Again thank you very much Julia

Ruben

This reminds me of the Tao that the less we do, the more is done. The more we relax and maintain a Peaceful State Inside really makes a difference and alters what is going on on the outside. Just think how powerful a creator you are Ruben!

Many Blessings, Be Well and InJoy Being in every moment of this day!

In Loves Spirit,

Julia