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Praveen
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« on: March 17, 2009, 16:39:29 »

I have read about our shadow selfs here: http://www.io.com/~embrace/ego.html

And also Harrison Klien talked about it in one of his new teleseminars.

I was just wondering what are they exactly? The parts of our selves that we repress? How do we get rid of them?
We have to love, accept and embrace it as a part of ourselves?

But I thought we were perfect in that we shouldn't have these negative parts?

I am a little confused some help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 22:43:33 »

I have read about our shadow selfs here: http://www.io.com/~embrace/ego.html

And also Harrison Klien talked about it in one of his new teleseminars.

I was just wondering what are they exactly? The parts of our selves that we repress? How do we get rid of them?
We have to love, accept and embrace it as a part of ourselves?

But I thought we were perfect in that we shouldn't have these negative parts?

I am a little confused some help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
Hello emon878,
I had experienced much, as you've stated, over the decades. With a tad of my awkward humor, 'I would have been satisfied to be only a little confused in those times of my life'. Going to answer in a way that addresses each of your questions. What I say may or may not be a total answer or even close to be being an answer, becoming a maybe type answer. Here goes:

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I have read about our shadow selfs here: http://www.io.com/~embrace/ego.html
And also Harrison Klien talked about it in one of his new teleseminars.
I was just wondering what are they exactly?
(Talker)
(I do entertain Ego thoughts that are not readily accepted or believed in. It works for me though.) Ones 'ordinary' ego stores all emotions, feelings, and every experience, as its reality to exist as it pleases. Ego sorts, so to speak, all inputs into many thousands of categories and nicely labels then for future use. These emotions, feelings, and every experience, are short burst of stored energy, of the plus or minus type. Initially there is little or no conflict going on. As ego draws upon those stored energies, it endeavors to make sense of what is currently active, with what is about to happen, mixed in with stored energies of the past. Some times it all turns out OK. Other times ego says 'no way' and that specific 'no way energy' because it has had 'direct focus and attention' applied, becomes a 'Shadow Self'. As I see it, every experienced doubt, unhappy moment event, and unfulfilled desire, turns into a 'Shadow Self' to contend with, and generally when you least want such an appearance in your life. Nothing is wasted energy wise. All and every energy experienced,  is converted into a 'stored' some thing. Some we won't face, some we don't want to face, and others we just go ahead and conveniently bury deep within ones self. All this can be at levels not consciously recognized, but non the less they are lurking there, to eventually rise again.

(emon878)
The parts of our selves that we repress?
How do we get rid of them?
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Well, if nothing happens by accident, we got a problem here. Some lesson to learn yet! Shucks, who needs all this aggravation, screwups in their life! Some of the stored energies, that ego tucked away, may have arrived from parents, teachers, ministers, bible reading, songs, movies, dreams, loves, an endless list involved here. Any momentary conflict between any of what may be, by now, ones established beliefs, is another so called 'Shadow Self. Not aware of who might be totally free of any 'Shadow Selfs, as it appears we all have a few of them to cope with, in some way, shape or form.
The upside is, If we did in fact accumulate all these 'Shadow Selfs' all on our own, then we are able to correct them by conscious choice. If we did accept them, as 'Shadow Selfs, as they were being absorbed into our being, we can sure start to undo, by our choice, to get rid of them. First off, none of it is a punishment from God or anyone else. Secondly, we may have actually preplanned it all, before we were born. Why, for the sheer experiencing of it. I know, I know that's nutty thinking, but after years of efforts to make sense of it all, it seemed in a way to answer the question of 'why me'. So, If I planned it at some point, I must have seen an answer that needed 'finding' by me or an awakening to 'who and what I am' within Source. We each have a unique and special path that in the main, is 'specially ours'. Basically we get rid of the 'Shadow Selfs' by learning to 'love' ourselves first, that is contrary to certain accepted methods. Then we learn to 'forgive ourselves', even if there is 'nothing to forgive', which sounds even nuttier than the other thoughts mentioned.

(emon878)
We have to love, accept and embrace it as a part of ourselves?
But I thought we were perfect in that we shouldn't have these negative parts?
I am a little confused some help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
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We are not forced to "love, accept and embrace" anything. We should though, by conscious ego choice, choose, to "love, accept and embrace" our true heritage of 'Godhood, and Christhood' in our finally waking up to it. We are perfect in Spirit. We choose to experience. How can one experience it all, until we get a good dose of the full spectrum of the plus or minus type. So, until I get more experience, that may alter my thinking, I'll go with what seems to make sense to me.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2009, 13:50:08 »

Thanks Talker for another great answer, you have helped me.

I think I misunderstood what a Shadow Self is I thought it was synonymous with a 'Limiting Belief' but I see
that it is different. I am going to see what else I can read about it, but right now I really want to focus on
releasing my limiting beliefs.

Thanks Again
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2009, 14:38:13 »

Thanks Talker for another great answer, you have helped me.

I think I misunderstood what a Shadow Self is I thought it was synonymous with a 'Limiting Belief' but I see
that it is different. I am going to see what else I can read about it, but right now I really want to focus on
releasing my limiting beliefs.

Thanks Again
Hello emon878, and All Sharing Souls,
Give a look at the book 'Secret of The Ages'. There are many top notch books that help, but I generally wind up by rereading this excellent book. All my kids were given copies of it, in their maturing process. Might save you a lot of searching for real answers to questions, and actually helps one with step by step, easy to understand ways. Correcting. changing or establishing beliefs in ways that are attainable.
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http://thetalker.org/archives/182/9-negative-ambiance-thinking/

http://thetalker.org/archives/374/40-talker-on-belief-did-what/

http://thetalker.org/archives/375/41-beliefs-did-what-follow-through/

http://thetalker.org/archives/284/law-of-attraction/
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Be the change you wish to see in the world" --Gandhi
It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply be kind to others.
"Do not go where the path may lead; go instead where there is no path and leave a trail."  ~Ralph Waldo Emerson
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 15:47:18 »

Hey thanks for that Talker seems like a great book I am just reading OUR book finishing up
Think and Grow rich once I am done that I am take a look into this. Thanks

And thanks for the links I am going to take a look at those too.
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2009, 16:11:04 »


Give a look at the book 'Secret of The Ages'. There are many top notch books that help, but I generally wind up by rereading this excellent book. All my kids were given copies of it, in their maturing process. Might save you a lot of searching for real answers to questions, and actually helps one with step by step, easy to understand ways. Correcting. changing or establishing beliefs in ways that are attainable.
Be Well

http://thetalker.org/archives/182/9-negative-ambiance-thinking/

http://thetalker.org/archives/374/40-talker-on-belief-did-what/

http://thetalker.org/archives/375/41-beliefs-did-what-follow-through/

http://thetalker.org/archives/284/law-of-attraction/


I like this book very much Talker!! Thank you. My daughter went and got herself a copy after peeking through my copy.

A keeper.

I InJoy your blog as well.

Love to you and All,

Julia

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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2009, 20:45:31 »

aww Talker!!! THank YOu soooooo much for the links and the reccomendation of the book  grin
I will definitely read it!  smiley


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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 01:30:09 »

Thought I have not read everything on this topic - as far as replies - I couldn't help resisting.

The shadow self is something that should never be repressed. I'm not a fan of letting our inner evils roam the earth, however, like taming a beast - we must do the same for ourselves. As a PAST Wiccan - and I say the word PAST with as much emphasis as a hissing snake - I will state that I do not believe fully in the Law of Three; whatever you give back will come back to you three fold. The shadow self answers to this law with a ready sword; no fear, no remorse and no consciousness. Though it may seem as though something to repress, it's almost as though you are suffucating yourself by trying to rid this portion of your being. I don't agree in letting it out fully, however, over time with training, let it out by what your intuition and conscious says you should. This time of man has many laws when it comes to what revenge and vengeance should be described - and is in no way satisfactory by the way of law. It is much more fullfilling to go after the person who did you wrong, attack and let them know of your power, anger, and whatnot, but the key is to control it to not let it go so far.

All those things - the portions of our personalities that are SEEN from outsiders as bad - are not bad . . . unless you allow them to get that far. I'm not one to care of other's opinions - I am what I am, but at the same time, I will not allow myself to be completely overwhelmed by the feelings of anger and rage and vengeance.

All I'm suggesting is that instead of trying to repell your shadow self, try understanding it - know where it comes from . . . there is always a source. Many of us never find the source, but they can understand WHEN and HOW it comes up. Ontop of that, they learn to control it. You have a loaded gun in your possession . . . use it to your will.
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