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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2008, 14:51:17 »

Hi Cosima,

Yes I too received my ' secret ' mantra from TM back in the seventies. I actually still use it. There are many Mantra's on the various websites dedicate to them.
It is matter of finding one that resonates easily in your mind. I change them up myself. From the TM one to OM ( Ahh-Uum ) even using ' Christ Jesus ' as a mantra also sometimes. You will feel the one that works for you the best.
I have been doing this for over thirty years now, I can feel the Mantra ' moving ' in the background all the time, even when I ma thinking an affirmation or talking to someone. It is hard to explain. It is Just ' there ' all the time.

I adapted this method to adapt to an American lifestyle, one of action and motion more so than in the East. I think East needed to meet West to incorporate the passive with the action oriented west.
It just makes common sense to me to make these practices a part of your life rather than a separate activity we try to cram into our schedules.
I still take time to close my eyes and meditate, but it is more to feel my Source and it is an e-motional experience for me than anything .
I have also done this incorporation with Yoga into the way I move my body, how I breathe, and find fluidity in everyday actions. The goal was to ' flow ' through the day with little wasted motion and energy. The mind and body welcome this like fresh air after a closed up winter, so it is not hard, and does not take a long time before it just becomes the way you do your life.

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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2008, 22:59:10 »

Wouldn't it make sense to raise your vibrations if your going to manifest anything? To manifest riches and aboundance you must match the vibration of that reality right? How exactly would you do that!? Just be simply believing that you already have it, and have absolute faith?
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« Reply #32 on: February 29, 2008, 12:47:53 »

Hello Darrell,
thank you so much for your informative answer.
Until now I always took time apart to do my "extras" and though I always try do remember my affirmations I keep forgetting them.
Everything helps, I think!
These are interesting times we are living in. Everybody with a computer can connect with others who think the same way, there is so much information around!

Have a nice weekend,
Cosima
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« Reply #33 on: February 29, 2008, 13:06:59 »

Wouldn't it make sense to raise your vibrations if your going to manifest anything? To manifest riches and aboundance you must match the vibration of that reality right? How exactly would you do that!? Just be simply believing that you already have it, and have absolute faith?

Hi Baki Hanma!
I do affirmations a lot! I tell myself over and over again that I deserve all the good things in life and to be happy and that I am a wonderful person.
I feel that this indeed has already helped a lot, at least I feel much better about my situation.
Given time and patience and not letting go of these exercises and NOT losing hope I am convinced much can be achieved and that slowly, slowly we raise our vibrations and get into resonance with what we need and wish for.

Good luck for you!
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2008, 23:34:02 »

Ok, so I lost my job today. Lol, funny how that happen! Anyways so what is the possibility of using LOA to bring in money without a job - other then finding another one I mean  grin
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« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2008, 02:40:30 »

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I mean that I have seen plenty of "psychics" and others claming to be able to help people win the lottery, but my views about psychics are well known by now

Actually though there are three aspects to this.

1. Using "psychic abilities" to predict the outcome of the lottery in the "future". This, however you look at it is a non-starter.

2. Using The Law of Attraction with view to influencing the numbers in your favour. Again, mostly a non-starter due to all the other Minds you would be up against focussed on winning the lottery.

3. Using Telekinesis to influence the balls in the lottery machine to appear as you wish them to.  I would say this is actually quite possible, just as we can influence fall of a dice etc.. It would not be easy though due to the fact a dice only has 6 sides, and a lottery machine has many more balls and other factors - I don't know what they are because I have no interest whatsoever in the lottery.

I frequently receive messages from people asking how they can win the lottery. I always suggest that they sit down and decide what they would do with the money if they did, and then focus on attracting those things instead.  For example, if a person wanted to win the lottery in order to purchase a luxury home, it is vastly easier to manifest the luxury home directly so why not do that?  As there are no limits to how much we can manfest, repeat for all the abundance and happinness they need.

Many still have a fixation that money is the route to riches and happiness which it isn't. Money is just a method of exchange, and most of the money in the world does not even exist  - it only exists as digital information which is worthless in and of itself.

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So what a minute. Your saying that it is impossible to see into the future and see what the winning lottery number is? Or are you just suggesting it wouldn't be a good idea to do so? I could for instant through "Remote Viewing" or "Astral Time Travel" project myself to a specific day in the future to see what the lottery would be for that day couldn't I? I'm not encouraging anyone to do so. I'm just wondering is there limitations to doing so.
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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2008, 02:55:10 »

So what a minute. Your saying that it is impossible to see into the future and see what the winning lottery number is? Or are you just suggesting it wouldn't be a good idea to do so? I could for instant through "Remote Viewing" or "Astral Time Travel" project myself to a specific day in the future to see what the lottery would be for that day couldn't I? I'm not encouraging anyone to do so. I'm just wondering is there limitations to doing so.

It is indeed impossible to "see" or project into the "future", because the "future" does not exist. There is only Now.

The best that can be accomplished is to view quantum potential - quantum probabilities. Unique configurations of Energy, originating from Mind, thought, would favour or bias the outcome of the corresponding circumstances, 2012 being a large example, but the absolute future, or even anything approximating to it cannot be "seen".

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« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2008, 03:31:15 »

 huh... Ok you kind of got me confused there a bit so I'll ponder that of what you said for a while..

I know the future doesn't exist, just like time doesn't exist. I use the word cause I don't have the words to describe what I am saying. I thought you would have understood what I meant by using the word "future". I mean this life is all an illusion yes, but the events today are/will be fundamentally different from the events of tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, and so on and so forth. Just like the numbers aren't the same every day. We live in the illusion of there being a future, so thats what I'm playing on, if you get what I'm saying.

I mean even in some of your books, you speak of people predicting the future and of the sort. If you dont believe it exist then why do you talk about it or mention it as such?

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It is indeed impossible to "see" or project into the "future", because the "future" does not exist. There is only Now.

Im talking predictions here. Are you saying that there is no such thing? If you do I can quote you on what is written in your books. Also you must then submit that you dont  believe in time travle. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding everything. If so I apologize I just been a little frustrated lately  rolleyes
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2008, 04:08:38 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Predictions are different from prophecies and fortune telling.

Predictions are are based upon existing facts - 21 December 2012 is a prediction for example. Nostradamus told prophecies.

Prophecies and furtune tellling are attempts or claims by people to "tell" the future which is impossible.

What does often happen is that a person is given the "future" by a fortune teller, which they then believe and focus upon, thus attracting it to themselves by The Law of Attraction so it becomes self-fulfilling.

If you want something use The Law of Attraction directly as opposed to hopeing to "see into the future".

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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2008, 04:38:26 »

Ok maybe it would help if you explain what predictions are in your own words. It would seem as a past experience with conversing with you that my definition or understanding is slightly off  grin. Maybe thats the case here. I assume since you spoke of "Clairvoyant Psychometry" within your book you believed in seeing into the past and future -

"Clairvoyance In Time; in which the Clairvoyant sense scenes and events which have had their original place in past time or will have their original place in future time"

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought we had the ability to see into the so called future. So how does that explain those who predictions come to past?
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« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2008, 03:35:07 »

Ok so let me understand something here. From previous posts from the beginning. I getting the idea that it is only possible to attract material objects and situations using the LOA. So in other words money (as the material green paper that it is) must have some type of repellent energy the reason people cant attract it directly on it's own? I mean what if I have everything I wanted, and only need money for things like bills or paying other people, debts, etc?

Everone please try not to get offended from my posts. I'm not ruling any advices out. Sometimes I just like to do things my own way tongue. Sometimes LOA takes to long and deadlines would pass in the mean time making it even harder to get out of debt.
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« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2008, 05:22:01 »

Sir Adrian is right Hanma son cool. Your better off using LOA rather then predicting the probable future. I mean I have dreams that have come to pass. I even know people who play the lottery all their lives and hit most of the time. My aunt loves playing the lotto. She says she plays the numbers that come to her in her dreams. They do indeed come out, and she wins smiley, not always in jackpots where the big bucks are, where all the numbers must be present. She get hits with about 3 or 4 numbers matching. So I guess you can have a vision of the future or probable/quantum future or whatever you wish to call it.

I believe LOA is the best bet. If you are truly giving whatever you want, under absolute faith and unwavering belief. Then lottery, which in my opinion is nothing more then a game with a prize, should be no different. If you cant, then the LOA does not work. At least in the way most people express, and is nothing more then over exaggeration and hype. Or I guess there could be exceptions. However they are never advertised rolleyes
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« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2008, 16:43:43 »

Using the LOA may not work because millions and millions of people in the world hope to win the lottery. So basically it's everyone against everyone, cancelling each other out. It would be better to predict the number that "will" come out that way many people could win, if say more than one person is playing the same number.
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« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2008, 19:09:23 »

If you simply desire money just for the sake of spending it at your own leisure or freedom (meaning spending as you come; whenever something arises that you want) outside a need of a material possession like a house or car, or whatever. Then I suggest you either:

A) Get a high paying Job grin, just had to bring that out
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B) Use the LOA to bring about a desired amount of money in itself

If for example you simply desire to have 50 million dollars for whatever personal reason(s) you have even if just to experience having that amount of cash. Then you should focus on that amount of cash alone.

However you shouldn't limit the means by which the Universe may deliver it to you. By that I mean playing the lottery alone. The lottery in of itself is just another means or possibility of obtaining that money. You should provide yourself with many possibilities for obtaining the 50 million. If you were looking for a job you wouldn't look for only one job with any or all your qualities. You would look for many jobs in need of any and/or all of your qualities. That way the possibility of you landing such a job will be greater.

It would be the same thing with attracting money. Create as many possibilities as you could to get the amount you desire, then sit back and wait for it.

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Using the LOA may not work because millions and millions of people in the world hope to win the lottery. So basically it's everyone against everyone, cancelling each other out.

Which is why you shouldn't rely soely on the lottery in the first place. The only reason I believe that it can help with winning the lottery is because it can be used as one means or possibility in which the universe, under LOA, may send it to you. Like if you desire 50 Million dollars, the universe under LOA may be trying to send it to you in another way. However you limit your possibility to the lottery only which means chances of getting that 50 million will always limited to one option. Either you hit the lotto or you dont, and most likely you wont! I would pay attention to this quote from sir Adrian if I were you. If you so bent on winning the lottery rolleyes

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Actually though there are three aspects to this.

1. Using "psychic abilities" to predict the outcome of the lottery in the "future". This, however you look at it is a non-starter.

2. Using The Law of Attraction with view to influencing the numbers in your favour. Again, mostly a non-starter due to all the other Minds you would be up against focussed on winning the lottery.

3. Using Telekinesis to influence the balls in the lottery machine to appear as you wish them to.  I would say this is actually quite possible, just as we can influence fall of a dice etc.. It would not be easy though due to the fact a dice only has 6 sides, and a lottery machine has many more balls and other factors - I don't know what they are because I have no interest whatsoever in the lottery.
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2008, 23:36:17 »

Well I am still learning on the how LOA thing. I get the gist of how it operates.

All I'm saying is that as far as the lottery goes. There are many people who tell them selves every single day that their ticket is the winning ticket. Even if they don't win anything right then and there they maintain that mind set and unwavering faith and absolute belief that they are the winner. Eventually they indeed win. However many people who sale products on the LOA states that you cant use LOA to win lotteries because its your mind against everyone else. If thats true then how do people win in the first place? Something put their belief in winning above those millions and millions of other people.

My guess is that it is that LOA have something to do with that. Many LOA experts state that it cant be done that way and I tend not to argue with them on that even though I don't fully agree. If the "Law Of Attraction", which should truly be called the "Law Of Belief", is really capable of bring to anyone anything they desire beyond a doubt then the desire to win the lottery should be no different.

Unless your playing the lottery as a need for some material possession, there is no need to focus on what you would spend the money on if your simply playing the game. Somebody has to win, which means somebody's mind power is either weakend by doubt, or they don't play much. If the LOA would cancel everything out then nobody would win, LOA ha to yield to someone. Even the smallest doubt, or negative vibration could tip the odds in someone else's favor, and even though their are millions of people playing the lotto. I sure not every last one of them have complete faith or belief that they will win. Many of them just "hope" they will win. Some think that they "May" win, but don't give the winnings much thought which means they didn't raise their vibrations to match that of a winning person. Many play only to "see" if they will win.

If there is at least one out of that million that possesses a winning mind set with "absolute faith" and belief that they are the winner. Then the LOA will yield to that mind set while the others are all confused with worry, doubt, simple pleasure of the game, curiosity, etc. They may want to win, but they may not fully believe that they will. Also there are many times where more then one will be winners grin. Nothing wrong with sharing is there.
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