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Mina-Laura
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« on: February 13, 2009, 21:14:10 »

Dear All,

Some very interesting news. Recently (Feb.12, 2009) a project started in 2006, on sequencing the Neanderthal genome was completed, and as a result some surprising information come to light.

- modern human and Neanderthal DNA appear to be 99.5% identical (chimpanzee DNA is 98.77% identical to human DNA)

- adult Neanderthals were lactose intolerant - this means they never drank milk

- Had language speech capability!! (before it was thought they were like apes...)

- Homo sapiens (or what we are today) and Neanderthals broke into separate lineages approximately 510,000 years ago - so far there are no evidences of interbreeding !!! between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, it was thought they co-existed, however it seems that Neanderthals just disappeared from the face of the Earth as Homo sapiens come about / this is amazing because there is no valid reason for Neanderthals extinction. They should have continued very much like the chimps etc...

- the most surprising thing however come after the reconstruction of the Neanderthals physionomy: they look incredibly human, I might say more human than many people of today  - the scientists are baffled as it was assumed they always had brutish features and were just half beasts.



I don't know about anyone but the face of this child looks incredibly kind, spiritually aware and in harmony with nature (i.e. same as other animals on Earth)


The scientists are now looking into what genetic differences are between Neanderthal and us, that allowed the humans of today to develop technology, to transform/ colonize the planet...

I will not be surprised that with time a lot of biogenesys theories will come to light. A lot of myths and ancient evidence talk about the inhabitants of this planet and Gods coming from stars and changing the people in order to suit their needs.

We could be nothing more than the result of such "works" (byogenetic experiments) that changed our DNA to shut down our Higher abilities in order for Ego to predominate - thus we become easily manipulated.




Note:
Genome: the entire genetic information in an organism.
Neanderthal genome: the entire DNA sequence of Neanderthal man
Sequencing: is a procedure in genetics where the order of the DNA molecules is determined- read

Refs:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gNRhmzaaW3a10ewnBU63clc_Ki7QD96A6LO80
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/02/090212-neanderthal-genome.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal_genome_project
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 21:24:39 »

Dear Laura,

Some claim that the Neanderthal skull is the skull of a ape with the jaw of a human. Some abs have very large skulls. Are we sure the DNA is authentic? Can you show me a picture of a complete Neanderthal skeleton here? We have complete Dinosaur skeletons.

What about the human skeletons that are Millions of years old?

Before we get into Aliens lets get the Evolution straight.

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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 00:46:27 »

Hey dear Louis, Smiley


Before we get into Aliens lets get the Evolution straight.


Evolution is overrated Wink


Can you show me a picture of a complete Neanderthal skeleton here? We have complete Dinosaur skeletons.


Just follow the links I provided above. That should lead you to the whole research and even a movie about how they reconstructed these people.

But this is the most .. 'visual' :
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/video/player#/?titleID=1832348827

Here are some more:

The skeleton that lasted Ice Age (there are 6 interesting videos on this):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJcS3y3mlI

The one that's most interesting is the 'brain' .. they had much larger brains than us and at least same cognitive functions. There is no valid reason why they disappeared. And interesting is how come they didn't 'evolve' in the way we claim Homo Sapiens did. They've been around for much longer, they made better tools than primitive Homo Sapiens, yet never 'passed' into technological life. They just 'phased' out of existence...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080825203924.htm

They played flute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUuavVnu36U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNyTFTHzcM
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 02:46:57 »

Hey Laura

That is very interesting stuff. So if the Neanderthals were just as intelligent as early Homo Sapians then why did we evolve from THEM? Is there any Scientific evidence that humans are not millions of years old? Where does the Giant human skeletons of Iraq fit in with Evolution?
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 03:43:58 »

Question....... are we actually made in the image of god or are we just an accident or result of evolution from single celled lifeforms during prehistoric (dino ages) times? Who where are ancestors.
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 07:40:43 »

Beautifully done videos, and well compiled by Laura.
I am more inclined to agree with the newer idea that these people and other genetic variables across time did not die off, but got lost in the bigger picture of growth of species, and still walk amongst us un-noticed. It is an idea widely resisted by the scientific elders, but what change isn't.
Swiss anthropologists maintain that these ancestors are alive and well being absorbed into the mass of modern Homo Sapiens as well as other lines believed to have become extinct. The the era of ' political correctness ' prevents public discussions and presentations of evidence.

Nature likes to play with possibility and flex her ability of creating variables, even if they seem destined for extinction, like the giants of Iraq, and other experimental avenues of human like forms.
I would have to agree with Laura that evolution is highly overrated, as is sciences sometimes stubbornness in needing to be ' right ' as well as needing to reexamine time lines of evolution considered factual.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 13:05:58 »

Question....... are we actually made in the image of god or are we just an accident or result of evolution from single celled lifeforms during prehistoric (dino ages) times? Who where are ancestors.

this is huge ,

why do we need to be educated ?

think about it

you go to school, learn this science, what use is it ? it produces a sense of fascination,

people teach you this and that about God, what use is that ?

Jesus said that a man old age in would not hesitate to ask a child as young as 3 of the place of life, and that man would be saved,

why don't we let our children tell us the truth ?

Ask them, "where did you come from?"
bypass the answers they might be taught to give, and see what they really have to say "who were you before you were you ?"
"do you remember where you came from?"
"What are you here to do?"

I mean,
I really think

we should be focusing upon learning how to bring all humans into a state of bliss, longevity, vitality, inspiration, rejuvenation, and true spirituality,
and that from birth, this should be the only thing taught

we don't need a past or a future, we need the now to save us from the two, opening grace for all,

but ... what do I know ? I am only writing what comes through, hoping maybe to softly get closer to what is True.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 16:25:02 »

Hello Goonie and Om

Question....... are we actually made in the image of god or are we just an accident or result of evolution from single celled lifeforms during prehistoric (dino ages) times? Who where are ancestors.

To answer your question we are not our bodies. We are immortal spiritual beings created in the image of god as co creators of the Universe.

The Theologians say human beings are created in the imagine of God. However this is pure Egotism. God is not a human. They give God a human body, human characteristics, Envy, judgmentalness, anger, wrath, pride, desire of worship and thus they give God human limitations. How can they believe in him then?

Humans reinvented god in there image because they do not understand who they really are.

Om to answer your question the average adult has a big ego. They like to think they are better then family members, friends, fellow employees, neighbors or at least think they are better then children. They know only what they see and they see someone coming into existence physically and assume they don't know anything yet.

I do agree we should let the children do the teaching.

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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 23:28:31 »

Dear All,

In the view of galactic alignment and end of a 26.000 year Epoch calendar predictions of a shift and etc. I find the detail of the fact that The Neanderthals are thought to have completely disappeared at about that time while Homo Sapiens started evolving into the modern man... at least kind of anecdotal.

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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009, 02:22:23 »

I don't think they Evolved. I think Aliens used them to created modern men and modern men killed them off. Now this is different then the beliefs that all the Hominids are extincted such as the Yeti. I am quite sure they are not.

Alternately Aliens made the first human and that interbreeded with the Neanderthals.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009, 14:30:41 »

Dear Louis,,

I never implied they Evolved or whatever ... I have no idea what happened with them.

Also there is no evidence of Neanderthal genome elements propagated in today humans (this is established with mtDNA) even the red hair gene is not the same one we find in today's humans ..there were some hominid skeletons discovered (lol..in Romania) that showed signs of interbreeding however no propagation thererafter ... still perhaps there's just not enough data to make any assumptions. Smiley

My point of this post was the fact that 26.000 years ago at the last galactic alignment Neanderthals vanished while humans started developing relatively fast in what we are today.

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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2009, 23:04:44 »

Dear Laura,

I love talking about this stuff with you!


Also there is no evidence of Neanderthal genome elements propagated in today humans (this is established with mtDNA) even the red hair gene is not the same one we find in today's humans ..t

Are you saying just Neanderthal or are you saying Ape and all Ape like beings have no genome elements with us? There is something being presented as Evidence that Apes had a Virus that effected its DNA and we have the same thing which suggest a common ancestor. Also Chromosome two is fused which is there Chromosome 2 and 3.

My point of this post was the fact that 26.000 years ago at the last galactic alignment Neanderthals vanished while humans started developing relatively fast in what we are today.

What is very interested about what you say here is that these Alien Hybrid Abduction cases is seemingly becoming more and more common. That's a topic I am very interested in because I want to know what Aliens are doing to solve what I believe is a similar problem to myself. It seems they want to look like humans and I want to look like someone else. I wonder if that has anything to do with this Galactic Alignment.
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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2009, 23:25:42 »

Dear Louis,


My point and only was this one.

26.000 years ago was the end of an Epoch and the beginning of a new one. Most likely same thing shall happen this time around.

The demise of an old species and evolution of a new one. 

What happened and who did it ..I have no idea. Aliens? Honestly I do not care for such stories (even if they might be true). Whatever was or shall be we really cannot possibly have any direct power or influence.
All we can do is learn and be prepared.

A great 'cause and effect' thing looks as is in place again. 

Oh Louis, from my latest research there is only one way that One can change its appearance/body. And that is by becoming more and more pure.. Godlike ...or reaching a phase in physical where one emulates the Creator to such perfection that eventually becomes a purposeful creator. I read about this sages that can grow teeth or anything new if they so wish. They are so pure that even their feces have a good smelling scent like flowers or such. However I also read that when one reaches that state, the appearance of physical body becomes totally irrelevant - they can also leave it at will change into higher vibration energy and reappearing at some other place or travel the stars/ heavens and so on...
So, if you really want a new Godlike body then looks as you have your work cut out Wink


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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2009, 17:50:21 »

Dear Laura,

I don't want a god like body. I want a human body. Just not the one I'm wearing right now.

I have learned so much and become a lot more pure then I used to be but I don't look at all better. In fact I think I look worse, older even.

I'm very interested in these Alien Abduction Cases even though its discouraging. Everyone reports the same thing. These "Grays" are doing all this Genetic Engineering with half human half Alien beings. Why create them? All the Abductees say its because were all going to be together. So they want to live with humans.

Why then are they making things that don't look Alien or Human. Even the ones that look fully human can't possible be as intelligent as the original Aliens. If it is possible to change ones look with the power of the mind they why don't these Aliens just do that? If they can't then I can't because my mind isn't anywhere near as powerful as there's are.

Learning more about Quantum Theory it seems these Aliens posses a lot of Quantum Technology. Why don't they rebuild there bodies at the Quantum level then?

If they can't do it.. what can I do?
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