More evidence of Awakening

[Adrian]

Dear all,

This is a very interesting statistic.

70% of people in Britain no longer believe the Jesus birth scenario, including a good many people who consider themselves Christians:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7793106.stm

Many no longer regard Jesus as a "God-man".

I take Joy from this, not because of the position of the Church, but because people are finally thinking for themselves, breaking out of their religious programming, which is extremely strong in many people, and seeking a Higher Truth.

I am feeling increasingly confident of the progress being made generally during these crucial years, but there is no room for complacency.

Everyone can make a difference.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[zensunni7]

Dear Adrian ,

I love it. It is such a rush for me when people begin to wake up the sleeper in them. I use to teach meditation and ' wait for it ' as the light would fill their eye's.
I think many in the US feel this way too, at least the ones that talk to me about it. But more and more there are people discussing this with their clergy, and I have had the privilege of seeing some of them wake up too.
Thank you for sharing this.

Love
Darrell

[Adrian]

Dear Darrell,

I agree.

I think this though provides most hope for religion oriented humans, quote:

More than a fifth of Christians who answered said they did not believe Jesus was both God and Man - another central tenet of Christianity.

Before long that will be the majority.

And from representative messages received, I know, for a fact, that almost certainly millions of members of a version of the "Christian" religion that they are trapped in, they want nothing more then to be freed from the misery, the "hell" it brings.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

[Kailaurius]

Hello all  ,

I posted this link on another forum in a thread already discussing the meaning of Christmas in the local web forum created for the area I live in to see what reactions I would get.  Even before I posted the link in the existing thread I was interested to see several comments that had already been made about their thoughts and feelings on the meaning of Christmas.  Several comments made after I posted the link also caught my interest.  Apparently there are more people than I had expected who are not as bound by religious beliefs as I had previously assumed.  As I had mentioned in another thread on this forum, the town I live in is predominantly prodestant with the majority being Southern Baptist who hold very strongly to their Southern Baptist beliefs.  I have always felt like there was no one in this entire area who opens their mind to other possibilities or explores spirituality, the Universe, the meaning and purpose of life, etc. similar to what is discussed in more open minded areas as well as in this forum and other metaphysical forums.  I always felt that everyone in this area just blindly believed what their preachers told them and that was that - as if everyone is held to one belief and everything else is irrelevant or satanism.  I guess even in a town such as this one there can be those who are more free than others, who are more aware, and who are more awakened.  I do feel somewhat encouraged that it appears not everyone in this area are so enslaved by a belief system.

Anyway I just wanted to throw that comment in here to say that even a town that is almost completely engrossed in a belief can become awakened and enlightened.  However, if time is running out like we have been discussing then as we approach the zero point where no time exists and Earth has evolved to a higher vibrational state then more people here will probably need to awaken just a bit faster, hehe.  Who knows, even more people that appear to me as being strongly held by a belief could very well be on the verge of waking up, if they haven't already, and could just be hiding in the closet as to not let their fellow zombies know they have awakened for fear they could be shunned and cast out by their peers. 

[zensunni7]

Hello Kailarius,

Yes, its amazing what we find under our noses when we begin to ask around. I live in an area of " Jesus Country - there is even a full sized bill board saying so - I kid you not " Welcome - This is Jesus Country " Scared me to death when I first saw it.

But there are many that are seeking now, religion has left them empty and often feeling even betrayed. My daughter is a Christian, and I attend with her on occasion. The pastor knows my beliefs and will not even talk to me. They built a new church  few years ago, and the sermons always end with the amount of money they need to make it, $3,500.00 per week.

Many will awaken soon. Many more each day. I feel they would look more seriously if they knew where to look. Many stay for fear of leaving will result in the condemnation of those around them and their church. Like a bad marriage they will stay until it is too intolerable for them to stay.

Love
Darrell

[melody]

Hello Adrian and all,

This is one of the culminating statements in Adrian's last newsletter:

"Beauty of the Perfection of God and therefore the Perfection of Each of Us as God".

I am not sure why it is OK for each of us  to have "Perfection of Each of Us as God" and therefore express the Source and be the Source, but to deny this perfection of being God to the most perfect being that worked this Earth, deny Jesus that he is God.

[zensunni7]

Morning Every/One

There is no denial of Jesus as God here - only that Jesus was the " ONLY " one.

Love
Darrell

[melody]

This is not how the first posting in this thread presented it...

[Kailaurius]

Hi Melody,

That's interesting.  That's how I perceived it for myself.  I assumed when Adrian mentioned,

Many no longer regard Jesus as a "God-man".

Adrian was emphasizing a lot of people, specifically traditional Christians, normally saw Jesus as a "God" with "God-like" powers that no one else can possibly be or have, but they are now realizing that Jesus does not hold this title exclusively - that he was no different than anyone else as far as our divine inheritance is concerned.  Adrian can correct me if I misinterpreted what he meant, but again, that's how I intended to interpret it for myself. 

[melody]

Hi Kailarius,

In that case, the polls do not represent the reality of the Truth that Jesus is God, and there is nothing to rejoice about people not recognizing Jesus as God. A regret would have been more appropriate that the statistics is so high of people not believing Jesus is God with an additional explanation of Adrian's believes. The way the post is worded would not be grasped by the majority of people the way you interpreted it, and it only came to you this way because you believe so.

[Kailaurius]

there is nothing to rejoice about people not recognizing Jesus as God.

Yes, I definitely agree.

A regret would have been more appropriate that the statistics is so high of people not believing Jesus is God with an additional explanation of Adrian's believes.

Given that the Universe always maintains a constant balance, there's really no reason to regret anything regardless of any circumstances.  Even if I were to interpret it as such there really would be no reason for an explanation that I could not resolve within myself.

The way the post is worded would not be grasped by the majority of people the way you interpreted it,

Given the nature of this forum I respectfully disagree.  Is it possible that people outside this forum or those who are not into metaphysics who have read the above article would most likely interpret the polls to mean that people are turning atheist?  Maybe.  But I do not feel that this is the case.  People are definitely changing, and from what I've been observing they are changing in a most positive and lovingly way.  People seem to care more for each other than ever before.  If the majority of the people listed in the polls are indeed breaking away from their beliefs I feel it's because they are more in-tuned with themselves and are finally realizing that salvation does not come from anything outside of themselves but from themselves.  If that is the case then that is indeed something to rejoice.

[melody]

It is only a speculation that those people who were polled beilieve in any personal inside salvation. I meet a lot of people who do not believe in anything, only in material stuff. Maybe they were the ones that were polled?

[Adrian]

Dear Melody,

To keep this in context, the survey simply asked people, at random, including Christians, whether they believed in the "nativity story".

70% of those interviews including many Christians do not.

We must keep in Mind, that before Yeshua, there were 16 previous identical birth sequences, right down to the "virgin birth" and "3 wise men" - although they were known with different titles. The first such birth was Osiris, and the one before Jesus was Mithras - the Roman God - always keeping in Mind that Christianity is a Roman invention.

Constantine borrowed the Birth, crucifixion, death and resurrection from Mithras - who borrowed it from the previous 15 "gods", then used  as many of the various writings that suited his objectives for the middle, burning the ones that did not, and altering the ones that almost did until they did.

Of course we must also take in to account that Jesus spoke Aramaic - a defunct form of Hebrew and Assyrian. The "Gospels" were first written between 60 and 100 years later from stories passed from person to person. It was written in Greek, then transliterated in to Latin and finally Medieval English - the form it remain in today.

Aramaic is not a literal language, and cannot be directly translated in to a literal language such as Greek - at least not without losing much of the power and meanings.

There are versions of The Lords Prayer and Sermon on the Mount from which it came surviving in Aramaic before it was corrupted - as indeed a discussed in my newsletter.

It will not be long now before we finally get to the true source of Jesus, which will end the 2000 years of misrepresentation forever.

Jesus never referred to himself as "the" Son of God. He always stated, as a core teaching, that every human being is a Son or Daughter of God.  But that did not suit Constantine because then Jesus and God could not be positioned as their focal point for their the true objective of the Roman Church - control and suppression through fear and guilt.

So the Roman church was, and is anti to everything to the embodiment of the Christ Light in Jesus ever taught and stood for.

Becoming the focal point of a negative, dark, fear inducing, controlling instrument of the dark forces was the very last thing Yeshua wanted.

So why choose to be a part of it?

The origin is beautifully simple. The "bright star in the East" was Sirius. The three stars in Orion's belt had always been known as "The Three Kings".  The Three Kings rise in the East in December - so are "from the East". They form an intersection with Sirius which is why they are said to be "following yonder star".  The Three Kings and Sirius point to the rising Sun, the "birth" of the Sun, the birth of the "Son".

So in other words the nativity is based on a cosmological alignment which has been known as used for thousands of years in pagan mythology.

Not to mention the fact that the disciples either would not have been born, or would have been children, miles from the "event" - so how could they have remembered it if the disciples wrote the Gospels - which they definitely did not?

I could say more but I am sure you see what I am saying.

Hello Adrian and all,

This is one of the culminating statements in Adrian's last newsletter:

"Beauty of the Perfection of God and therefore the Perfection of Each of Us as God".

I am not sure why it is OK for each of us  to have "Perfection of Each of Us as God" and therefore express the Source and be the Source, but to deny this perfection of being God to the most perfect being that worked this Earth, deny Jesus that he is God.

Every Expression of God is equally Perfect - there can be no other truth if you accept God is Perfect.

The only factor that varies is the degree to which humans Express that Perfection.

As Expressions of God it is for us to Evolve ever Closer to God through the process of Perfection until we Ultimately Approach Source, God, in a corresponding state of Perfection. And that is the Ultimate Meaning of Life.

God Became Man So Man Can Become God

As in my signature at the end of each post. But of course includes Women - except that "gender" is simply a convenience of the material World.

In Love an Light,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

I will be just commenting on only one point now. Although the disciples might not have been present or even born at nativity, the story of his birth was certainly narrated to Jesus by his parents, and he would have told it to his disciples. I don't see any discrepancy in this.

I am very happy we are celebrating Jesus's birth presently. He was indeed the most exeptional being that ever walked this Earth!

Merry Christmas to you and everybody!!!

 

[Adrian]

Dear Melody,

Hello Adrian,

I will be just commenting on only one point now. Although the disciples might not have been present or even born at nativity, the story of his birth was certainly narrated to Jesus by his parents, and he would have told it to his disciples. I don't see any discrepancy in this.

I am very happy we are celebrating Jesus's birth presently. He was indeed the most exeptional being that ever walked this Earth!

Merry Christmas to you and everybody!!!

 

I think it is somewhat presumptuous to think that Yeshua found his baby stories to be of any interest even if in fact he was told himself. He joined the Essenes probably at Qumran from a very young age. That is where he learned "The Lords Prayer".

As for his year and date of birth - Yeshua was born in the reign of King Herod who died around 4 BCE - 4 years before Christ. So Yeshua must have been born at least 400 years before his "official" Roman birthday. Pontius Pilate, a Roman Prefect between 26 and 36 CE to coincide with the Roman myth of Jesus.

The whole Jesus birth myth is so full of holes it could be a cullender

But you must be prepared to take a highly objective and look at the history of the region around the time first.

As a matter of interest - do you accept the fact his name was Yesuha? And what do you believe Constantine's motive was for creating the Roman Church?

In Love and Light,

Adrian.