Mind–Consciousness–Oneness - from God or Neurological Brain?

[melody]

Oneness or simply a neurological effect?

There is a part in our brain, referred to as an orientation association area. The function of this part of the brain is to differentiate us from everything that is not us, so we don’t bump into other objects and hurt ourselves. This area deals with objects, shapes, angles, space and even time. We need to judge distances so we will not bump into anything, and to judge speed (in time) of an object or animal rushing at us, so we can try to get away. Basically this part of brain has an image of “I” and where “I” ends in space, and where “Other” begins. It keeps track of all the “other” and creates an image of a coherent world outside of “I” with which we can interact successfully and safely. To do just that, this part of the brain is very busy. It collects the outside information - stimuli all the time, and processes it constantly. It is very busy doing this, because our survival depends on the correct data processing, so we don’t step of a steep cliff, for instance, and fall down. It is very difficult to shut up this area of the brain. But this can be achieved when having mastered mediation and prayer. Once the input of all the stimuli is shut off effectively, this part of the brain is only left with “I” since no “Other” is coming in. This is when one experiences an overwhelming sense of oneness and timelessness.

Could it be claimed that in that state one has “realized God”?  Maybe all one simply experiences is a neurological effect.

The authors of a book ”Why God Won’t Go Away” studied Zen Buddhist masters as well as Franciscan nuns. They discovered that when both groups achieved the peek spiritual experience, one through the Buddhist meditation and the other through prayer, they reached the same type of state which they described as the total unity and oneness with everything, God, a limitless experience. They studied the brain imagery during those experiences and saw that it activated some areas of the brain and suppressed others.

It is interesting that when an injury occurs to this part of the brain, the person has the hardest time to function. Even a simple task of trying to lie in bed becomes insurmountable, and a person often misses the bed, since he no longer can process the shapes, angles and distances coming into the brain through the eyes. Unfortunately, no “astral vision” takes over in such cases.

There is also an idea expressed in the book that “mystical experiences” might simply be a coping mechanism with all the unanswerable questions we have. The brain evolved in such a way as to cope with the reality effectively. But the most of the reality is unexplainable, hard to understand and accept. Especially concepts like death.

The book states that it is a well known fact that a groups of elephants (an elephant family) might travel considerable distances just to visit the remains of a deceased relative. They would stand over it, gentry caressing the remains with their spouts. So even animals understand "death" on some level, and have a hard time dealing with it.

At the end the authors come to conclude that because we have such mystical experience and they feel extremely real to us,  there is a reality to them.

But do those experiences only feel real to us because the orientation association area makes everything feel real to us (all the surrounding objects) so we don’t hurt ourselves? Is “oneness” real because we experience it as such during the peak meditative states, or because it is simply is a neurological function of the brain ?

Please don’t take me wrong. I still believe in “realizing God within” but maybe it is something different and more, and goes far beyond the sense of oneness one achieves in meditation?

The book “Why God Won’t Go Away?” is available on Amazon. It is interesting to read the reviews about the book given down below on the page.

http://www.amazon.com/Why-God-Wont-Go-Away/dp/0345440331

[zensunni7]

Very nice post melody - very insightful.
Thank you so much for it.

I felt while reading it, it was describing biological response within the physical form when certain states are attained. I always felt meditation was taking me to the source of that response. I learned to understand that meditation was connecting me to the source of my thoughts. An opportunity to ride with my thoughts as they travel my inner universe.
Great power of energy is witnessed in this function within our brains, and all its wonderful companions within us. I love the marriage of Spirit and Science.

WithIn Love
Darrell

[melody]

Hello Zensunni7 ,

I am glad you appreciated my post. 

[melody]

Computers now can read the image of the brain and figure out which word the person is thinking about. So where is the seat of consciousness? In the brain?

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2939892820080530?feedType=nl&feedName=ustechnology&sp=true

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=USN2939892820080530&channelName=technologyNews#a=1

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Computers now can read the image of the brain and figure out which word the person is thinking about. So where is the seat of consciousness? In the brain?

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSN2939892820080530?feedType=nl&feedName=ustechnology&sp=true

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/articleslideshow?articleId=USN2939892820080530&channelName=technologyNews#a=1

All thoughts and emotions originate within the Mental Plane, and are then transmitted to the organic, physical body through the Mental and then Astral matrix.

The brain cannot therefore "think" in and of itself, it is rather an "interface" betwen the physical and Astral spheres which are at a much higher rate of vibration, like a sort of "step down transformer".

The thought of speaking must influence the brain in order to translate it in to speech which is controlled by the brain.

So our thoughts affect brainwaves, or more specifically the electrical activity of the brain, just as our thought affect our entire reality.

Brainwave entrainment allows us to lower the frequency of the brain to perceive a much wider range of vibrations.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

It sounds like a long-winded process to transmit thoughts and emotions to the physical brain if they already exist in our energy plane and we already think and feel them - sort of redundant and superfluous...

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Hello Adrian,

It sounds like a long-winded process to transmit thoughts and emotions to the physical brain if they already exist in our energy plane and we already think and feel them - sort of redundant and superfluous...

I perhaps could have explained it better.

The thoughts or more specifically vibrations received through the Astral Matrix influences brain activity and vice versa.  The brain is not capable of "thinking", but rather only reacting to thoughts, ideas, emotions etc.  For example, if we think about walking, the brain receives the "walking thought" as a vibration, which it then translates into moving the legs.

Conversely - if we physically perceive something through any of the physical senses, the brain will translate that into vibrations that are then transmitted through the Astral Matrix - I assume this is what EEG's etc are measuring.  They are not measuring thoughts, but rather the reaction of the brain in response to those thoughts.

That said, from a neruo-chemistry perspective, different areas of the brain are associated with different aspects of Consciousness without actually originating them.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

The thoughts or more specifically vibrations received through the Astral Matrix influences brain activity and vice versa.  The brain is not capable of "thinking", but rather only reacting to thoughts, ideas, emotions etc.  For example, if we think about walking, the brain receives the "walking thought" as a vibration, which it then translates into moving the legs.

Hello Adrian,

If we think of something that does not recquire for the brain to produce any physical action, as was the case in the experiment, why to involve the brain at all? This is quite superfluous because the brain does not need to pass any command to act to any physical part of the body. Why not just leave the thought in the plane where it originated because that plane is us anyways. It is us - our spirit - who is thinking that thought and not our physical brain, at least according to how you seem to see it.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

If we think of something that does not recquire for the brain to produce any physical action, as was the case in the experiment, why to involve the brain at all? This is quite superfluous because the brain does not need to pass any command to act to any physical part of the body. Why not just leave the thought in the plane where it originated because that plane is us anyways. It is us - our spirit - who is thinking that thought and not our physical brain, at least according to how you seem to see it.

That is correct and what I hope I conveyed in my last message.

What we have is as follows in very broad terms:

The physical body
The organic brain
The conscious Mind
The Subconscious Mind
The Astral Matrix/Soul
The Mental Matrix/Spirit
Universal Mind/God

What appear to be our own thoughts actually already exist in the Mental Plane - we are simply tuning in to them. There is not an idea or invention in the Universe that as ever originated by an individual - they all occur in the causal sphere of the Mental Plane.

The thought then passes to the Astral Body, the Soul through the Mental Matrix, and then to the Subconscious Mind through the Astral Matrix, and finally the Subconscious Mind brings it to the attention of the Conscious Mind which appears to us as a conscious thought.

In the case of bodily functions, the Subconscious Mind has absolute control. The Subconscious Mind maintains every vital function of the body - heart beat, breathing, digestion etc - all fully automatically.  In the case of healing, our Mind is focused on perfect health which the Subconscious Mind then invokes both in the physical and Energy Bodies.

The brain is best thought of in terms of being a Supercomputer. Like any computer it cannot think for itself even though it might "control" peripherals to the observer. A programmer programs a computer - in the case of the physical brain the brain is programmed by the Subconscious Mind, and n fact is capable of controlling the body directly.

For example, there have been many cases of a person who has been blind from birth having their sight restored, even though, at the time, they had no optic nerve - the Subconscious Mind can do anything -it is infinitely powerful because it channels power directly from Universal Mind.

I have seen TV programs where people have been found to have no brain at all, but yet they function as completely normal people in every respect. They are found to have a spine and brain stem, with only a tiny sphere where the brain should have developed.  I saw another program where a person has had half is head blown away, but was fine because the brain was so small it was not affected.

The brain is a convenience rather than a necessity - there is only one fundamental Principle - Mind.

Why do we have a brain? Why do we have any redundant part like appendix for example?

The truth is they are all vestiges of human evolution.  The next evolution of human being, which everyone should aspire to - Home Spiritus, or Homo Luminous etc - will have no need of these things.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

What appear to be our own thoughts actually already exist in the Mental Plane - we are simply tuning in to them. There is not an idea or invention in the Universe that as ever originated by an individual - they all occur in the causal sphere of the Mental Plane.

Hello Adrian,

If whatever we think already exists, and none of "our" thoughts are really ours, and those thoughts have  already been thought in the Mental Matrix-Plane, why would God need us at all to experience those thoughts. It appers he created them to begin with and had already experienced them.

If we do not create any thoughts, we therefore have absolutely no creative powers whatsover, and are only sterile recipients of existing thoughts. That would hardly make us Go. If we cannot create on our own from the depth of our being, we are simply marionettes of thoughts flouting around in the Universal Mental Plane.

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[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

If we do not create any thoughts, we therefore have absolutely no creative powers whatsover, and are only sterile recipients of existing thoughts. That would hardly make us Go. If we cannot create on our own from the depth of our being, we are simply marionettes of thoughts flouting around in the Universal Mental Plane.

I did not say that we do not think - quite the contrary in fact - our thoughts create or attract our reality.

What I said was "ideas" which arrive in our consciousness arrive from the realm of ideas in of the Mental Plane.

There is a difference between focused, projected thought and receiving ideas or at the highest level - Inspiration.

Some great scientists of the past openly admitted that their greatest inventions just "came to them". One of them, I think it was Newton, held himself in an altered state by holding a handful of coins over a metal bowl. If he dozed off he would drop the coins into the metal bowl which would wake him again. In this way he maintained a constant alpha or theta state during which his inventions came to him.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

[melody]

Some great scientists of the past openly admitted that their greatest inventions just "came to them". One of them, I think it was Newton, held himself in an altered state by holding a handful of coins over a metal bowl. If he dozed off he would drop the coins into the metal bowl which would wake him again. In this way he maintained a constant alpha or theta state during which his inventions came to him.

Hello Adrian,

A lot of people, even scientists, hold rigid ideas of how things are, and when in a conscious state their minds-brains might be locked into preconceived patters. Their brains would operate better getting away from those preconceived notions. This is archived by getting into alpha and Theta state, which makes their brains operate outside of structured reality. Since in such a state a person does not think purposefully, and since people only perceive themselves as thinking when they are thinking purposefully, this is why they get an impression that it only came to them, as if from the outside of them.

You say that ideas actually come to people and scientists from the Universal Mental Plane. In that case, what everybody would receive should be infallible, the highest knowledge. And yet, even Newtonian physics is questioned now as really not reflecting the physical reality...

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

You say that ideas actually come to people and scientists from the Universal Mental Plane. In that case, what everybody would receive should be infallible, the highest knowledge. And yet, even Newtonian physics is questioned now as really not reflecting the physical reality...

The ideas did not arrive from Source - they arrive from the Causal Sphere of the Mental Plane from the Realm of Ideas.

Anyone can do this. Those who are focused exclusively in the material world produce results that reflect a very material focus.

If we place ourselves into an altered state we can receive ideas as well as the answers to any question.

A powerful way of getting answers to questions and solutions to issue is to maintain the intent to receive an answer to the question by dwelling on it just before sleep when closest to the Subconscious Mind. Make sure you take a notepad and pen to bed. When you awake - either at the normal time or suddenly during the night - be prepared to receive the answer and be sure to write it down.

It is a fact that if children were taught to access information from the inner spheres from an early age, then schools would be superfluous - this will happen in due course.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Baki Hanma]

It is a fact that if children were taught to access information from the inner spheres from an early age, then schools would be superfluous - this will happen in due course.

Incredible, how can one achieve this. Being that you said "if children were taught ", I assume that we can learn this... How?

[Adrian]

Hello Baki Hanma,

It is a fact that if children were taught to access information from the inner spheres from an early age, then schools would be superfluous - this will happen in due course.

Incredible, how can one achieve this. Being that you said "if children were taught ", I assume that we can learn this... How?

Yes it is possible to learn this - especially children because they are extremely receptive and tuned in to the inner spheres, and have not been corrupted by materialism. The only issue is who would teach them?

Everyone has access in Principle to all the knowledge in the Universe. Some can access that knowledge at will, but many receive the information as required and appropriate which is really "inspiration".   I personally know beyond all doubt that my own writings are true, because I have that level of connection when needed.  Of course I don't expect everyone to accept everything I say to be true necessarily - everyone must decide for themselves - but everyone does recognise the truth when they see it without doubt - all it requires is an open Mind.

But at the "highest" level we would be able to "download" information on absolutely anything in all eternity from the "font of all knowledge".

I think it would take a major evolutionary change to enable some people to be able to achieve that, but that change of course is on the way.

Kind regards,

Adrian.