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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2008, 13:49:14 »

Hello To All,
Goodness, the pace of and expressions on this particular subject and many others is amazing. With due respect to all expressing points of view.
Seems here, that the book called the Holy Bible, is heavily used to rebut any and all 'out of the box' type of expression. With all due respect to the bible as a valuable source of inspiration and insight to how things need or should be, it is a burr of irritation if taken literally. In many instances. myself included at one time, many just totally ignore it. Have been told by numerous theologians well versed in the bible, that 'literal and metaphorically' thinking need to enter the conversation when talking bible. With those two words included, healthy conversations can and do take place. Used literally, females have no voice in any matter, slaves are common and a sign of wealth, murder, genocide and rape, are just part of a normal day occurrence, and leads to a mentality of 'my way or the highway' thinking process. Many are the concepts, principles, laws, cosmic or otherwise, that I still don't meaningfully understand, so much to be learnt yet.
Like to believe there is a better approach to it all.
Common sense thinking and application.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2008, 14:51:58 »

Hello Melody,

And everyone - fascinating topic. Just arrived back to find these most interesting and thoughtful posts.


The metaphysics is mainly concerned with acquiring “powers” and gaining control over energy levels. It is based on Mental control. The true biblical Christianity, on the other hand, is not concerned with ”powers” and this type of Mental “knowledge” and control, but rather teaches how to become enlightened, how to acquire higher vibrations with the added bonus of all understandings and abilities that go with it.

Jesus taught Metaphysics - particularly the Law of Attraction - or "Principle of Creation" which I favour as a more accurate term.

Of course he taught many other important values and abilities as well. The Bible is a book of initiation at its innermost levels which few have understood, but more are beginning to understand which is all part of his plan.

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According to the Bible, we find ourselves in this plane where we are right now because we ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. We will stay in this plane as long as we vibrate with the evil that we had consummated. When we will get rid of the evil – law vibrations, and have only good ones left =  higher vibrations, it is only then we will be able to leave this plane.

"Good" and "evil" are human concepts. There is no such thing as good and evil - only experience.

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It is God that predetermined all levels of existence. Each level has specific vibrations. Astral planes have different vibrations and apparently we will transition to the plane which corresponds to our vibrations, not any higher. So, it appears, our vibrations are being “judged’ = measured by a God’s law at a point of transition, and we will find ourselves only in that area that corresponds to our vibrations. We have absolutely no personal or mental choice or control over it at that point.

We are not being "judged" which implies one or more people making arbitary decisions based upon their own values.

The Universe operates to an immutable set of Principles that everything in the Universe, in all Spheres are subject to.

Although we cannot transcend Universal Principles, we always have the frewill and the power fo raise our vibration through evolution and therefore perfection.

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To claim that good and evil does not exist, as stated in metaphysics, is, from my point of view, erroneous. As long as there are all those level of vibrations in existence, created by God, then the scale of the spirit’s vibrations exist as well. The lower and higher are on that scale, and since the lower ones would not bring you closer to God they can be called “bad”, “evil”, where as those vibrations on the scale which would bring you closer to God could be called” good” and desirable.

As I said before - "good" and "evil" are human constructs based upon the human experience from the temporal perspective of a space-time bound reality.

Good and evil cannot be defined in absolute terms because there are no benchmarks by which to define it.

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The “evil’ is to have low vibrations. Those who engage in low vibrations and are not concerned with raising their vibrations, could sink even to lower vibrating spheres which Bible calls abyss or hell. If it is not all that sweet to live on Earth, with its relatively low vibrations, then imagine being in even lower vibrating spheres. Is that God’s punishment? Yes and no. He is the one who created the vibrational scale for people to chose from. He created the lower spheres that vibrate even lower then where we are right now, and which are even denser than our’s. To assume that we are already in the lowest harmonics of God’s creation would be erroneous. The beings may sink into even lower and lower spheres of existence if they choose to harbour those types of vibrations.

Vibration is an immutable Universal Principle  - the characteristic of Energy - it has nothing to do with "good" and "evil".

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God decreed it this way and by the rules of his game, the rules of the realms he created those low vibrating beings would go even lower than the Earth vibrations – to “hell”, to the “abyss”. They would not be able to come out of there if they would not choose to change their vibrations to the good - the higher ones.

God does not "decree" - that is a human concept.

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In a sense one can claim that it is God’s punishment that people will sink into lower spheres and his reword if they go to higher spheres because he devised it in that way. Yet it is our choice where we will end up. God is not forcing us to make the choice, we have to do it ourselves, we have to make sure we will not to get even lower than where we are already and that we should be trying to get higher, in order to raise our vibrations and get to God’s higher planes of existence And the only way we can do it, is to choose to be “good” and “righteous” and thus become filled with higher vibrations.

There is no punishment or reward system. Being what humans call "good" will not, in and of itself raise vibrations. Evolution is much more complex than that.

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Good and Evil exist as long as high and low vibrations exist. And this is not a conjecture of human mind, not a dichotomy created by human beings’. They are a part of the universal vibrations principle.

Again this is over-simplifying things.

By what benchmark can you define "good" and "evil".

Most people would regard a certain majority sect of the Christian Church to be the epitome of good, but yet it has been directly responsible for perpetrating more horror in the form of torture, maimings, brutality, oppression and death, than the most "evil" terrorist organisation today, or of the Nazi's of world war 2 or any other such entity.

If I said to you here is the Christian Church on one hand and a major terrorist organisation on the other, and asked you to define which was "good" and which was "evil" based upon human definitions, you, and everyone else would certainly get them the wrong way around.

In addition, and here is the most important factor of all - every individual is an aspect of God - how can God be considered to be anything less than Perfection?

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So the Bible, especially the New Testament, is indeed the teachings about how to become enlightened and attain higher vibrations, and to strive to get away from the low vibrations. This is the main focus and concern of the Bible. The added bonus is, one will get the powers automatically when one will start vibrating with high vibrations.

Metaphysical abilities are not related to Spiritual Evolution. Black magicians often have considerable metaphysical powers. In the Hinu culture these powers, known as Sidhis, are reharded by the enlightened to be a barrier to Spiritual progress.

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The Metaphysical teachings are mainly concerned about getting various powers, and not as much as how to raise one’s vibrations - this is not its main focus. But it appears that such powers would be of no real substantial use for the spirit, since they would not raise the soul’s vibrations. For instance, turning the compass’ needle would not make you vibrate with higher harmonics.

Metaphysics by definition means "beyond physics" and is an important aspect of evolution.  For example - it is impossible to perform Telekinesis without knowing, beyond any doubt the Oneness of all things. When we move or change something with Telekinesis, we are not moving or changing some object that is external to us - we are moving or changing an aspect of ourselves.

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 16:28:14 »

Hi All

I don't feel that the Bible and metaphysics contrast each other at all. I agree with Adrian, Jesus taught it himself, and the Bible is so far and away from its original intention and text, it may as well be a book classified under fiction. The Bible was rewritten so many times and edited, plagiarized and bastardized beyond any truth of its origin and essence.
The Bible is also the story of one race of people - just one. It is one races perception of their God and His creation, it is their story alone. I know - the new testament, Jesus. That too is NOT anything that Jesus taught. It is not wise to rest all of our perceptions on one book - one idea - one persons version of reality, truth and God. Jesus would be the first to say so. It is not that those that push the Bible are right or wrong, only that the insistence it is the ONLY book of God perception.

Metaphysics was birthed in  a time of just such intolerance's, when the Bibles interpretations were causing the slaughter of thousands in its name. Much like the present. I don't think Jesus would even finish reading the Bible today.

Jesus said repeatedly " Mine is a living Gospel " and if his teachings were something that a written word could bring to fruition he would have written it down, or at least guided its writing. In fact it was actually nearly a century after him that written documents began to show up regarding him.
I have read the Bible, all the Bibles. I also agree with Albert Schweitzer's  conclusions that the written truth about Jesus and his actual life and humanity is either destroyed or hidden in a Vatican vault never to be released, lest the actual truth and his relation to human beings be known.

Those that try to convince me of the Bibles supremacy on spiritual matters find themselves outmatched and outgunned. I am a student of metaphysics, to include the Holy Books of the world and new sciences.  But more than all of that, I am a student of Self. Because Jesus taught that first and foremost. We are born with all we need within us, yet our insistence to take it so metaphorically has caused our own slowness to fruition, our own slogging through the muck and mire of self imposed ignorance.
To pose the Bible and metaphysics as opposition creates  unneeded dichotomy added to the millions of others across time. Overlay them and the veils fall away. Just as we debate intelligent design and evolution, the core of the arguments do not lie in finding truth, but in the anticipation of the usual ' winner ' to emerge.
That will never happen.
Truth becomes blatantly evident when the two theories are intertwined, creating a picture of completeness. Your real Bible is evident in your bathroom mirror, it is the ONLY true Bible of God and the creation of God, that continues to evolve, either from generation to generation or by will.

WithIn Love

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 16:53:48 »

Dear Darrell,

Exellent contribution with which I agree.

I know people will neither want to hear or accept this, but Jesus said himself several times that he came only for the Jews and not for the "Gentiles", For example:

"And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour".
--Mathew 15:22-28

He was saying that he came for the Children of Israel and that his help was not fit even for the dogs - people not of a Jewish tribe.

I suppose it is ironic in a way that The Jewish culture never accepted Jesus but the Gentiles did.

Of course we do not know for sure that iswhat he really saod or meant, and in any case Jews, Gentiles and all races are One, and his teachings apply equally to all.

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 20:23:30 »

Hello Everyone, smiley

In Light of this ongoing discussion here, I wish to contribute a thought or two.

What I have observed in World Wide religions is the removal of the Divine Feminine Voice (the Mysterious) in all these matters we speak of. Some Faiths are more active in pursuing this than others. Religion and yes, even within this New Age of Spiritual awakening there still remains a residue of this in one's being able to accept this Knowledge being accessible, understood and only worth hearing when it is said by a man. A Boy's club mentality. This is changing and it is possible that this is what is now bringing the Collective Consciousness to its awakening because we are getting the whole picture, Unity and Harmony of One Spirit shared by all the unique aspects of the Divinity of each Human Being.

Perhaps Jesus was misunderstood and his actions misinterpreted but from what I can observe and sense from having read this Book which seems to cause so much confusion and upheaval, is that he was a great Liberator of the Divine Femine Voice and did not feel threatened to share it with one such as Mary. He brought balance and equality to his partner, who shared the same in kind.

Jesus also said, "Do not cast your pearls before swine." H mmm... This seems to be an elitest statement. As in purity. But that is just my opinion.

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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 21:04:47 »

Greetings all,

I would agree, religion is a ' boys club mentality ' as new age is a ' girls club ' one.

The Bible in general is not kind to women either by direct insult or by omission. Mary, for me personally , has always been a focus of my attention. I always loved her obvious refusal to be left out of the experience. I am also more inclined to believe that Mary, Jesus' mother, was one of his main teachers.
I also am of the mind that if we do not cease putting ourselves into male / female camps and merge to Human Beings we will not see our aspirations realized. Jesus was a shining example of not paying attention of sex, just people.
I related in another post my experience  short while ago of a woman at a gathering asking me " where are all the men at ? '' and how it broke my heart as for several decades, men were not very present in any spiritual gatherings, but off somewhere beating drums in the woods.
I also left most new age, star child and other forums where reverse prejudices were expressed. Any response usually brought the same comment '' You have issues with women '' if I did not agree. No - I have issues with making spiritual matters one of sexual identity.
Spiritual, New age sites are generally  75% women, science sites men. As these genre's find their marriage a workable love where we can cease this division of Human Beings. We are different - men and women - and I celebrate those differences.
Religions, the major old world ones have always seen women as subservient to men, even unto these days. SO perhaps here on this forum we can find that old way finally dying off to extinction. I have observed here a healthy respect for words published, with little to no attention to the sex of the authors.
I mean no offense to the feminine, but i m years tired of being told I need to be a feminized man to love, appreciate and be one with my creator. I have a feminine side, as they say, it was seen alive and well taking care of five baby's with the same tenderness, intuition, and sensitivity as any woman I ever knew. Yet, I am a man, and these aspects of myself I never thought to be feminine nor masculine, just me. Religion has proven over centuries it will not ever change its spots. Scorpions will always sting if you pick them up - they are scorpions - they will not cease to be scorpions for us.
Don't want to be stung ? Don't pick them up.

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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 22:37:36 »

Good Evening Darrell, smiley

I appreciate your point of view however, valid and definitely one worthy of considering, my point was missed, perhaps it is the language issue that has been weaving throughout the discussions in various posts in this forum.

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I also am of the mind that if we do not cease putting ourselves into male / female camps and merge to Human Beings we will not see our aspirations realized. Jesus was a shining example of not paying attention of sex, just people

My asking for consideration here was in regarding Unity not separation. If we can discuss the outer events we see going on as a reflection of what is projecting from within then this too applies. We have all attributes of God Nature in each one of us as unique Beings. All aspects. It is about understanding the balance. Men and women have had their battles too and isn't time to come to an understanding that we are all equals by Divine Inheritance?

This isn't about men becoming women or vice versa. Obviously we have all these attributes within our selves or we would not be projecting this into this reality, or have the ability to know what a man or a woman is. There has been a separation and I am sorry you feel this was an invitation to become more feminine or perhaps for women becoming more manly. It is our understanding of respecting the right to be different yet co-existing to live together in our purpose here in peace, harmony and Love without barriers.

I highly support parenting and single parents both male and female and I feel I have made this known.

I used Jesus as an example as you yourself do here for this very same reason. He was dealing with this very mentality of separation which I originally mentioned here and went against the grain because in that time and it has permeated throughout history, he was a Man who spoke up for the equality and due respect of Women. I do agree that he probably learned this from his mother. He listened to the Women in his life because they were present with him even when he was according to what has been said being crucified. It was the Women who stayed with him. They empowered him. He empowered them. Unity, working together in Harmony. No barriers to Love there.

We can speak of Iran, Israel, end of age events and all other injustices done in the name of religion but here again we find a thorn in the side when mentioning the Feminine Divine Voice. Maybe it is about looking at the Rose it is holding upon its stem.

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SO perhaps here on this forum we can find that old way finally dying off to extinction. I have observed here a healthy respect for words published, with little to no attention to the sex of the authors.

Ah yes my brother. Some words do not have to be spoken to be heard and you know this quite well. Thank you for sharing your thoughts Darrell, and allowing me to do so in kind.

Namaste,

Julia
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 03:41:56 »

Dear Julia and Darell,

As we all know, gender is merely a convenience of the material world. Our true nature is neither male or female and indeed the Higher Self sends many representatives to Earth of both genders and is therefore the sum of both genders.

Alas it would seem that religion still takes the erroneous view that God is male therefore males are superior in some way - in otherwords it is a situation of the Ego.

I believe the new age emphasis on the female gender and in particular the rise in Wicca which is a staunchly Goddess based belief system is a backlash against centuries of repression by the orthodox religions, and indeed some non-orthodox religions.

It is a pity that this polarisation of gender still exists when in reality, as eternal Spirits we are neither male or female, or both male and female, as is God.

In LVX,

Adrian.

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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 08:04:04 »

Good day to you All,

Please forgive if I misunderstood your essence Julia.
As Adrian said, were both genders in one and I feel here on this forum we all see and express this well. When I was raising my babies, I took a lot crap for having walked away from my traditional role as a ' man ' in the family situation. Perhaps I still carry some residual e-motions from those days, so I will clean out that closet.

Religion will do as it wants, as will the New Age. Perhaps when we stop needing to label all of this we will rise to the call of the Universe. It is the sincere heart in all this that carry's the new world within, and there are so many more now than ever in history, so were all good.
If what you meant was that we need to stay focused in the gentle strength of the heart and Love, yes, were all on board with your feelings here. More and more we are connecting on this board and in our hearts and minds without the the need for any devices other than the desire.
The matrix of the old collective consciousness is being absorbed into a new one, telepathic communication and making heaven an Earthly existence. We are the miracles we have sought and prayed for.

WithIn Love,
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:54 »

Dear Darell,

I can relate to your experiences well.

As many will know - I have raised my three sons for the last 14 years - the youngest was just 18 months at the time.

"Society" including relatives simply could not understand this. In fact, the schools automatically assumed that their mother was "dead" and that I must therefore have been "forced" to raise my children alone, not being able to conceive of anyone other than the mother raising children if she was "alive".

In reality of course, as with your own experience, I accepted this role with all my heart and felt blessed in doing so. My sons are now well into their teens and everyone comments on their virtues, how polite, intelligent and "well adjusted" they are as well as being very high achievers in their chosen interests, but very modest with it. Of course they all understand the inner realities and Universal Principles.

I know that this was always part of my experience on Earth as it was for my children, which is why our Higher Selves orchestrated it. Having only one parent and living far from relatives there have never been any conflicting "signals", ideas or teachings to confuse my children, and how they are today reflects that. 

The point is thought, people should, will and are ridding themselves of these traditional stereotypes as part of the ongoing evolutionary process.

As for religion, new age etc - they are all "systems of belief" that people find convenient for now, after all all they need to do is follow their crowd and they will be assured after "death" of whatever destiny their particular doctrine dictates. And ultimately it is all about "death" or the fear of "death" and therefore fear of the unknown.

No doctrine built on the low vibration of fear can ever survive for long - especially as the higher vibrations increasingly exert their influence.

But we only need to look back over the last 100 or even 50 years to see how humanity as a whole has progressed and evolved.

The large scale wars of the past no longer happen, the emphasis being on peace keeping. We will disregard the activities of the US and their allies in Iraq and other countries where they interfere which is part of an agenda.

The death sentence no longer exists in most civilised countries.

Destruction of the nature has given way to conservation in many parts of the world.

Even shooting animals with guns has given way to shooting them with cameras.

In these respects and more humanity has probably progressed more in the last 100 years than in the previous 2000 years, and this is all part of an exponentially accelerating process which will probably reach a peak in 2102, signifying the start of the Golden Age.

That does not mean that everyone will become automatically Enlightened - far from it - it is still for each individual to evolve.

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Adrian.




 
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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2008, 14:39:32 »

In these respects and more humanity has probably progressed more in the last 100 years than in the previous 2000 years, and this is all part of an exponentially accelerating process which will probably reach a peak in 2102, signifying the start of the Golden Age.

That does not mean that everyone will become automatically Enlightened - far from it - it is still for each individual to evolve.

2102 = 2012?  undecided  cheesy

I would love for a major change to occur between now and the time spent in the Galactic Center - preferably a change that brings us to a higher spiritual evolution. smiley  I mean who wouldn't (except for maybe the dark forces, hehe).  Of course I'm sure that's just part of my ego bringing on the emotion of discontent toward what I had been perceiving as a monotonous environment and events occurring both locally and globally.  But I'm also working on overcoming those emotions as part of transcending my ego by accepting and welcoming the reality I have created and that has been created collectively, no matter what the situation, without becoming complacent (always focusing on raising my vibrations, working on my spiritual development, and enjoying the experience of my journey now).  But then again just in the last few years major changes have been occurring, and they do appear to be increasing in frequency.  I have been getting very excited about that, and my anticipation grows more each day as we get closer to the Galactic Center.

I try not to focus too much on the future as past, present, and future are just human concepts within a linear existence, but sometimes I can't help but wonder about all the possible future scenarios as we near the Galactic Center.  I know that ultimately the collective consciousness will decide the outcome of whatever happens during this transition, but whenever I look at everything thing that is happening now with the global society, the governments across the globe, the global economy, the increase in weather activity and strange weather patterns, increase in geological activity, etc., it's almost like you can tell that a major transition of some sort seems inevitable.  Once again I know it's just my ego, but currently I would probably feel disappointed if I new nothing would happen and everything would continue as normal before, during, and after we have entered and then exited the Galactic Center, which if I remember correctly the Earth and/or solar system will be in the Galactic Center for about 36 years.  If everyone across the globe remained the same, and there was no enlightenment found to be anywhere except for the comparably few we see today, and there were still the same old governmental squables and wars, speculations of conspiracies, hidden agendas, etc. etc., I can't say what I would feel like 4 to 40 years from now, but as of right now I would be less than enthusiastic with just a ho-hum feeling.
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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 17:53:09 »

Hello Kailaurius,

I am sure many people would share your disappointment.

But the truth is we still do not know whether 2012 will be a climactic event or is the pivotal point in an ongoing process.

If we look at the evidence the former seems the most likely. We only need to look at the increasingly extreme weather conditions, as well as the state of the world generally and other evidence to see that these events are both unprecedented and exponentially increasing towards a climax where something must give.

There are many indications that the poles have already started to shift. In the far north the inuit races have reported the sun rising earlier and reaching much higher in the sky than has been the case up to a couple of years ago. They are also reporting the winter snow melting much faster. And of course the noth polar ice cap is melting so fast it is predicted to be completely ice free in the next 5 years or so.

Where I live the weather patterns of the seasons have definitely shifted forwards by about 1 month.

We are seeing an exponentially increasing Spiritual awakening concurrent with an ever increasing level of control and desperation from those who seek to control humanity.

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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2008, 17:56:26 »

Greetings all,

Yes Adrian, we entered a path seldom traveled by men and faced many twists and turns on it. The reasons we entered it are not really important to me, I am just forever grateful for having had the experience. I cannot think of a better place of a spiritual person to become tried, and true than taking care of these little ones, no longer little. I do miss them as children at times, but stand in awe of the adults I am now deep friends with.
I too heard many good things about them when they were growing up. I had one woman ask me " Aren't you afraid your four sons will turn out like you, staying home taking care of kids instead of being real men? "
" No, I am however deeply afraid my one daughter could end up like you though! but that won't happen, she is intelligent. "
People cry for change, give it to them and watch them run for the hills.

We share the same heart about the race though - I see so much positive happening, so much power, intelligence, courage and spirit occurring everywhere. People everywhere are grabbing their dreams and refusing to be knocked back to complacency. SO much progress - so little news coverage of it. So many strong hearts, so many little ones on the run from their own extinction. The " Bush's " running like the dinosaurs they are from the reality their time has come and gone while they were squandering the resources of the Earth.
We shall rebound from the devastation of such men, we are rising high in the horizons of today, of this moment.
Yet, I would implore all here to sound their voices loud in their respective corners of the Universe to stand together. See the miracles occuring daily on the streets they walk everyday.
I openly confessed here that I had walked away from teaching meditation, from ideas I have become familiar and intimate with over the decades of my seeking, finding and applying. Yet I walk new roads, as I always have. I do not forsake those that are entering these paths now, there are enough teachers for them now. When I began this, there were none, except those in the hidden caves of  foreign lands.
Now, like God, there is nowhere you can go where it all isn't.

Do not wait for 2012, it is here - NOW. The changes will not await the date we have assigned it. Look to the skies, see in the Universe the changes she is making, stars are rearranging, creating new matrix within the constellations, the center of the galaxy has shed its shroud, and the sun has become alive with new torrents of power.
Our ancestors gave credit for their knowledge to light, knowing that the very Universe sent light to them with knowledge hidden in the depths of their being.
We now know that light particles have their own DNA, they sit upon the energy of our atoms  orbit and converse with them, the secret language of God. Now they come with new knowledge.

Its the bottom of the ninth and we have already the game and the series, were just playing now for the joy of it.

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2008, 19:08:24 »

Dear Darrell,

Beautifully stated and so true as always.

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This is so true. There is a convergence taking place encompassing all 2012 related factors, both physical and non-physical, yet the ultimate outcome is still in the hands and Minds of the human race.

The long prophesied battle of the forces of Light against dark is taking place right now, every minute of every day, the only possible outcome must be for the Light to ultimately prevail.

In LVX,

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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2008, 05:16:29 »

Here You are Darrell, cool

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I am just forever grateful for having had the experience. I cannot think of a better place of a spiritual person to become tried, and true than taking care of these little ones, no longer little. I do miss them as children at times, but stand in awe of the adults I am now deep friends with.

So true and beautifully stated. A mining and refining process. Growing with our children is such a humbling yet rewarding experience. I appreciate you expressing the gold of parenting in becoming deep friends with our now grown children. The honor is sensed deeply when they bring their little ones in and desire for them to know and be known by us as grandparents. An ongoing humbling yet richly rewarding experience.

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I too heard many good things about them when they were growing up. I had one woman ask me " Aren't you afraid your four sons will turn out like you, staying home taking care of kids instead of being real men? "

" No, I am however deeply afraid my one daughter could end up like you though! but that won't happen, she is intelligent. "
People cry for change, give it to them and watch them run for the hills.


Thank you for sharing this and pardon me for laughing at this statement. It may not have seemed funny in the moment but later it reveals itself to be a 'you are on the right track' statement. A turning away with the face of your Light and revealing the backside of your moon. wink

We could write quite a few humorous books on the things we have been privy to throughout the years. Breaking of the mold. I am thankful to share my life with those who have been willing to honor their heart when everything else was screaming that it should be 'otherwise.' It takes a tenacious Spirit to continue on where no path has been blazed. I believe the word is Pioneers.

Yes. I agree, the time is now. It isn't about waiting for anything. Choose this moment to accept and live in our true power. We are the Carriers of Divinity, it is in recognizing this and living by being in the awareness of our true source of power in every moment that we are free to enjoy this playground of life. It is Now. Let's play.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts my brother.

Many Blessings, Be Well, WithIn Love InJoy this day,

Julia


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