Metaphysics Versus Bible’s Christianity

[melody]

Hello Julia,

I appreciate your posts, but there is a fundamental difference between my posts and yours. I discuss ideas, and make general statements, whereas you really savour discussing me. I am sorry, but I really cannot, and do not intent to converse with you the way you wish - our conversation styles do not coincide. And neither would I ever dream of challenging you publically to discuss yourself, the way you do to me.

[melody]

Did a post a short time ago on large numbers.
While my blog post applied in one fashion, the outcry of 9/11 was expressed in another fashion. I do feel though, that what I had expressed regards deaths in large numbers still applies to that 9/11 event. Again, I state, much more could be added here, but would serve no real purpose, and would some what be a repeat of the blog post. The effect or trauma of large numbers does lose meaningful impact, in many happenings, but that effect, which I dislike, strangely, serves a purpose.
Be Well

http://thetalker.org/archives/140/13-talkers-thoughts-on-common-sense-and-all-wars/

Hello Talker,

It is great that you are concerned about such matters and speek about them...

[zensunni7]

Dear All

" Say what you need to say "

At the end of the day we all fall asleep to our own thoughts, our own feelings, beliefs and creations from all of it. Mine is the same as yours, just differently said - just a little.
At the end of the night we awaken to the same creations we made yesterday. Love is the topic in all these boards, and love sometimes feels a little unlike it. But it is the same heart we all serve here.
I see no purpose to discussing our differences, other than to say we may not understand. There is no silent audience here, only those that desire to express and those that do not, yet there is no fear in expressing.

" VS " always leads to conflict, it has no other purpose.

WithIn Love

Darrell

[Kadensnga]

The only definition - Uncoditional Love for All

Unconditional means just that. You don't mind another's business. You maintain your own and allow others the right to do the same. You are focusing on whatever you choose to focus on based on your definition of what you 'see'. I am free like everyone else here to share my point of view but it is only that. Not if you don't believe the way I choose to or see the way I choose to see then you are not loving unconditionally?

Unconditional Melody as in Live and Let Live.

Thank you Julia for defining my religion perfectly here, and also defining the reason why you and Leila have been my closest comrads... the reason why "in my heart" and accordiing to "my definition"... many others do not "get IT". (according only to my own personal flavor that is...and also there are others here I bond with...but its obviously you two the most closely... cant hide that surely, any one who says they vibrate with all frequencies equally is either already in spirit form and has left their human form, , or they are not being honest. Even Jesus bonded with mary more than the disciples for some reason, though he loved all)

I am sure many pupils would not care to be in a classroom (and we are here basically to learn) where a few are constantly addressed by a teacher as Dear, and in Love and Light and the rest only given Kind Regards. As I said, I was not speaking for myself, but for the others, the silent ones.

I do not agree that we are all necessarily here to learn... I for one am here to commune and share in love... the holy spirit is my teacher.

I also dont think we all think of Adrian as  a teacher in a class room, although there is much to learn from him and just as much to learn from Darrel or Talker...

I personally think of Adrian as a wonderful and loving creator, and a facilitator of a wonderful place for Gods royal children to play together and for that I say "Namaste Adrian" recognizing the God in myself as equal, as I know that Adrian wishes for all to.


I personally , as a relative newby, am only happy to have found a soul group that is vibrational harmony with me...some arent ..who cares... I have over 300 posts at this time and I have barely talked to 10 people...there are thousand here who have never givin me the time of day and honestly...I dont care. I am happy they are having fun on this playground participating with their own like frequencies.

I only care about the jewels I have found that are so amazing. I know all others will find their own jewels and do not lack.

On being a hero,

Perfect allowing, is to let the silent ones speak for themselves, not speaking for them... you can't speak for another person and contribute to their growth in an atmosphere like this... only enable them to be weak and defenseless, and turn them into vampires.

We are all like a million sperm cells trying to get to an egg... only the ones who make it make it... the others are not victims...they just didnt make it and someone else did. Fortunately unlike the sperm cells there are a million prizes in this life not just one egg and all can have what they desire..."when they make it to their desires"... no one can do that for them.

There are no victims and personal awareness of God is the only hero.

I call some dear because they have endeared themselves to me...anyone can if they are willing to step up and love me... I define my experience as the God of my world...and I am in vibrational harmony with those who do the same... as for the ones who believe in moral hierarchy... they play with others who believe the same... no one loses we all gain friends.


No one has the right to question me as to who I chose to bestow my adoration upon... there is abundance and each will recieve love in kind... There is enough love for all though it doesnt always come from the same direction as everyone elses... show me a person who loves and isn't loved by "someone" who is in harmony.

here's why Julia is my cup of tea and I have no shame in saying it in one clear and simple statement:

She believes as I do, that we are not here to experience God...OH hallelujah, JOY, JOY, JOY,...I feel the spirit in this statement... we are in this illusion rather for Him to experience himself through US!

Some still believe that we are earning our way to more of him, or IT for those who love to play semantics... I believe that we ARE him, having an experience, and we come here on an "eternal level" not to learn "what can you teach God"? ...but rather to "experience" an awreness of our Godself...once that is achieved...take it any direction you like, and I am sure he will enjoy the contrast.

Yes I know I mis~use the etc ... ... ...dots.... I like them,  and the God in me loves the dots alot for some reason...and it loves YOU this God who has fun using the dots incorrectly, and he says !"I created the dots...who are you to tell me how to play with them...go play with your own dots in your own way, and please stop telling others how to play with the dots, you're damning up my expansion by keeping everyone in the same place..."

As the father of fathers says...at the end of the day we all fall asleep with our own thoughts... and all of those colors is what makes Gods life so rich and colorful!

Maybe this post is not hitting the nail on the head , is irrelevent, or completely missing the point, but it is what flowed, and yes, just like any kid on any playground... I want to stick up for "my click"... and you want to stick up for yours...and its all good.

Dont believe in clicks...? You're kidding yourself. Get real. We are all one body but an arm is not a leg... and a nose is not an ear...it takes all of us daring to hang with different groups to keep the exponential growth happening...otherwise we would become a lopsided universe all moving one direction...not very well rounded...we are all in our own labs with our owns groups of like minded mad scientist.

Be friends with who you want, and be happy with others making their own friends...at least we all have found a home and that's beautiful.

I lost track of who I was writing this too honestly, just flowing...hope it peels someones banana... if you miss the boat...dont worry my friend Julia is giving "floating lessons", and sky is giving boat building lessons, and darrel is giving flying lessons...you'll get there one way or another with this bunch.

Personally I will teach you to just be yourself...and then "you are already there"!  



The "K~m~ie~ster" is complete.

Great Love to all.

Ps.

Edited the last part of this post...because I realized that I was getting away from wisdom. The above is accurate from my own personal viewpoint and no one elses.

[Alicia]

Hello To All,

Interesting topic! I truly believe we're all on a path made entirely of of own experiences which then at the time of self discovery believe they have found the answer which resonates in them to who God is and why they are here.

Some people find organized religion and all its teachings from their bible to be their truth their comfort. Then there are others who beliveve in structures of spiritual development and their ideas/beliefs their truth and comfort. Needless to say the list goes on.

I myself have formed my own truth/comfort after many different paths. The one thing I have noticed from my own journey is this. There are no right ways or wrong ways to finding ones truth as they seek the age old question Who/what is God, why am I here? It is because of our free will we are able to do this.

I believe though The only discretion of course are the newly born souls, babies, who don't have the abilities yet to voice their opinion. They are usually indoctrined into a set of beliefs the parent/s have choosen for them. It's not till a higher age do they either accept this as their truth or in my case never do. I was baptized into the catholic church without my consent. It might have been better to offer baptism to me at an age where I could critically think for myself and make that decision on my own. Just a thought.

My own belief is I choose this life for experiences/lessons and to learn from them and evolve from them. Whether these experiences are considered good or bad or even indifferent isn't the point really for me. I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. Cause/effect, Karma, and I embrace these experiences with no judgement on my soul. I don't praise myself nor do I show disdain for myself living this life. I just accept what I experience for that of a greater cause and for me that cause is becoming whole with God.

It has taken me a long time according to Earth time to figure this out. I have had severe depression to anxiety to suicidal thoughts trying to figure out what this all means. Those times were exhausting. I continue to deal with these issues even today. The difference what today makes is I've learned so much through Adrian's writings on how to release and cancel out those thoughts in my concious before they reach my subconcious. Believe me I work at this stuff! It does work though.   

I also agree that watching TV or reading the newspapers about lifes astrocities will only bring suffering and confusion into my life. I don't need to know the details of a child being molested or how someone was murdered. It doesn't cancel out my empathy I just have found knowing the details of these things to be something my ego and concious mind have a problem comprehending. I could literally go insane trying to comprehend  why someone would do these things. Once I stopped thinking and accept that as disturbing as it is, it is the laws of cause and effect  and Karma that there is no getting around it. There are the ones we call saints and the ones we call evil. Higher energy, lower energy. When I could let go and let God this journey became a lot less burdening for me.

Sorry if I got off topic or misunderstood the flavor of the topic I assure you I mean no harm:) I've really enjoyed everyones take on lifes meaning and God.

Love and Light,
Alicia     

[juliainkc]

Hello Dear Alicia,

I am Heartfully genuine in expressing my appreciation with your participation here in the forums. Thank you very much for sharing.

I have been InJoying your openess to share your Journey that has led you to Now.

One question I asked along with the ones you share here is What Am I? That one has taken this one on a wild ride.

What I have soaked in through my own Journey is coming to an understanding that Cause and Effect do not contradict eachother at all.

From my position in the Web of Life regarding Conscious and Subconscious. Our subconscious houses our ancestral dna or familial beliefs handed down throughout the ages or generations. I know this may seem like an odd picture yet when a life is forming in the mother's womb it is attached by a cord and this has been the way we seem to bring life forth from well ? ... life is being passed on through this connection.

I am musing with you out loud here.

For myself, it has taken going deep into the subterranean caves of the mountain not seen above to get to the Heart of the matter in my life. Not fun as I sense you understand by reading your thoughts here. Removing the lifeless seeds and allowing the seeds containing Life to grow in their place. Cutting the cord to allow Life to continue in the fullness of Being Ones Authentic Self.

Now, I am able to maintain more of my conscious thoughts through having cleared out the cause of the 'old stagnant water' in the deep well to allow the Living Water of Now to flow through. It is far 'easier' now for me to stop or cancel these thoughts due to this process of Sacred Alchemy~Sacred Geometry. Re-aligning my dna into Sacred or Divine DNA which is InHeirent in all of us going deep enough to uncover this realization.

I don't see you getting off topic at all here. And now, you have wonderfully placed yourself into this wonderful mix.

I InJoyed your thoughts in the Garden of Eden post as well and feel a Love flow rising yet ~

Much Love flowing your way in Genuine Appreciation,

Julia

[Alicia]

Hello to All,
Thank you Julia for what you share here too! You are very wise to me and speak from experience on a lot of matters. This shows through your thoughtful and engaging writings with others. It's through reading these interactions that I get to decide what resonates as truth to me to advance me along this journey.

I haven't much experience or knowledge about alchemy. Although I've heard of it I have yet to understand it. I'm sure in time I will seek out information regarding it. I hear people say the word often and it would best suit me to  have an understanding to what they are speaking of. It sounds quite positive though.

Love and light,
Alicia


 

[juliainkc]

Hello Dear Alicia,

Well, this is not a scientific explanation by any means, this is just my way of drawing pictures while my brothers and sisters deduct all around me ...

just my expressing out loud ideas that arose of what Sacred Alchemy ~ Sacred Geometry shows up as for me ~

http://www.you-nique-by-design.com/sacred-alchemy-sacred-geometry-esoteric-home-remodeling/

As always, Take what speaks to you and leave the rest ...

Love returning in kind to you and Loving thoughts and kindness,

I appreciate you Alicia,

Julia

[Alicia]

Dear Julia,
Thank you sharing for the link!  I visited the site today.  It's a very uplifting place with a lot of positive energy put into it I sensed:)

I could relate to the story of the energy sucking vampire/parasite's we meet in our lives:) You were quite colorful with your thoughts and I had a few chuckles to myself:) Not on anyones behalf, I have had many similar experiences. Being an empathetic healer I naturally atract all walks of life into my own. I learned something from you on how to deal with these situations.

I'm in a situation at moment with someone who tells me quite often how good I make them feel and motivate them with my words. The only problem is this person doesn't have any plans anytime soon to make changes in their life for the better. I am being drained and need to address it. Instead of avoiding them as I have been doing.  Not to get off topic from the original post:)

Thanks again for sharing. One more inspiring place I will enjoy visiting!

Love and Light,
Alicia

[farfromreality]

Hmm... You have given your interpretation of the Bible. The Bible have spoken of good and evil, yes. But it doesn't mention the word vibration. You have tried to show the Bible in a metaphysical light.

[juliainkc]

Hi farfromreality,

The idea of vibration is woven throughout other posts in the forums.

It's like saying that the 'message' of the Bible is all Law or the Infinite Principle yet there is something missing in this impersonal idea.

Personal. Spirit is the Personal attribute of this One Infinite Principle.

Father ~ Infinite Principle (Universal Law), Mother ~ Spirit (what backs the Infinite Principle), Son ~ Logos (Spirit declaring ITSelf into form)~

not separarate Energies or Entities but ALL ONE, attributes of the ONE.

Just me musing out loud again ~

Thank you for listening,

Julia

[juliainkc]

Alicia,

Thank you for your kind words ~

All these interesting experiences we have are us expressing our Free Will or Free Spirit yet our Spirit cannot really deny ITs own Nature.

It's thoughts like these that make this ones life fun and interesting especially when in moments, I have taken my eyes off this idea ~

Much Love in the sharing,

Julia