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« Reply #90 on: September 09, 2008, 16:02:20 »

Well I dont really have much wants and what I consider needs are only the things I find valuable in my life whether it be for a moment or long term.  I only desire wealth because I dont like working for people, unless I am passionate in the job I'm doing - which I am not. Also I dont really have much of a career interest so finding one I will love is another issue.

Many of my so called friends live in very fancy homes and ride on 20 inch rims, sporting shiny platnum chains and making the ladies swoo all over them - flashing their money and what not. The work hard for those things getting paid a very descent salary. I on the other hand couldn't care less for such a life style. So I see no reason to work so hard for it - nor to pay so much money in taxes.

All I need is a descent sized home for me and maybe a couple others - food and cloths, and maybe a car (not that interested in one being that I only have me to take care of and I like walking and riding my bike.). All I want from LOA is the wealth to maintain that life style without working. Doesn't seem like so much to ask to me, yet I am having trouble getting there undecided.
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« Reply #91 on: September 09, 2008, 16:24:29 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Well I dont really have much wants and what I consider needs are only the things I find valuable in my life whether it be for a moment or long term.  I only desire wealth because I dont like working for people, unless I am passionate in the job I'm doing - which I am not. Also I dont really have much of a career interest so finding one I will love is another issue.

Many of my so called friends live in very fancy homes and ride on 20 inch rims, sporting shiny platnum chains and making the ladies swoo all over them - flashing their money and what not. The work hard for those things getting paid a very descent salary. I on the other hand couldn't care less for such a life style. So I see no reason to work so hard for it - nor to pay so much money in taxes.

All I need is a descent sized home for me and maybe a couple others - food and cloths, and maybe a car (not that interested in one being that I only have me to take care of and I like walking and riding my bike.). All I want from LOA is the wealth to maintain that life style without working. Doesn't seem like so much to ask to me, yet I am having trouble getting there undecided.

Perhaps you are taking it too seriously.

The LOA is fine if you wish to cause the Universe deliver all sorts of frivolous material things, but that does not sound like you.

All you wish for is harmony in your life which is exactly right. But harmony is a natural state of Being. There is no effort involved with harmony. Divine Providence knows everything you need to live a happy and harmonious life while fulfiling your true purpose here. So all you need to do is "let go and let God" and only live for the present moment of Now. If you have absolute Faith in your true reality, and that all your needs will be provided for - so shall they be. Everything you could possibly desire is within.

Your friends may have all those material things, but if they are having to spend 90% of their time "working" in  "job" they do not like, under a manager they do not like, and for "working conditions" they do not like - who is really better off? The person who enjoys complete freedom, harmony and happiness with all needs fulfiled, or the person enslaved in a "job" until they are 65 with no real freedom to enjoy what they have?

Many if not most people do not purchase homes, cars etc to make themselves happy, they do it to impress others - it is a facade.

The happest people on this planet live high in the Tibetan mountain ranges, or in the jungle or out in the wilderness which to them is the greatest riches of all  - and rightly so.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #92 on: September 09, 2008, 17:36:41 »

Yeah you pretty much hit the nail on the head with me. I do however would rather live more or less based on what is considered the "norm" life style of today, meaning I would prefer not to live in such primitive fashions. Although you believe you could live in a cave, I on the other hand may have a bit of a problem with that grin. I am not goingto go into the whole "what I would need in the cave thing", but lets just say I would prefer a descent house  wink.

Having Faith may be one of my challeges. I try so hard to ignor my current conditions in order to clearly see what I rally desire. Yet every now and again I am reminded of my current status  rolleyes. I dont have a "I give up" type attitude - never have. However this is a challange that I am hoping I will win very soon.

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Your friends may have all those material things, but if they are having to spend 90% of their time "working" in  "job" they do not like, under a manager they do not like, and for "working conditions" they do not like - who is really better off? The person who enjoys complete freedom, harmony and happiness with all needs fulfiled, or the person enslaved in a "job" until they are 65 with no real freedom to enjoy what they have?

Some of them like thir jobs, at least from what they are saying. I do understand where you are coming from though. I know for a fact that one of them don't really care too much for her job yet she tolerates it for the wealth it gives her to take care of her child and get the things she desire. The salary is not bad actually, each making about 30 -50 thousand yearly (I think undecided).

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The happest people on this planet live high in the Tibetan mountain ranges, or in the jungle or out in the wilderness which to them is the greatest riches of all  - and rightly so.

I can understand why. They are enjoying the freedom of the Earth and all it has to offer. However what of those who wish to experience Love with another mate? Mostly like of which will be found in a city like enviorment. At some point I will love to ind the woman of my dreams - but I doubt she would be up in the mountains or jungles smiley
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« Reply #93 on: September 09, 2008, 18:10:00 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Some of them like thir jobs, at least from what they are saying. I do understand where you are coming from though. I know for a fact that one of them don't really care too much for her job yet she tolerates it for the wealth it gives her to take care of her child and get the things she desire. The salary is not bad actually, each making about 30 -50 thousand yearly (I think undecided).

But the paradox is that they have never truly experienced freedom. All they know about is degrees of "job satisfaction". I do not know anyone who would choose a job over freedom.

And that 30-50K is less the 30 or 40% that goes to the government.

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I can understand why. They are enjoying the freedom of the Earth and all it has to offer. However what of those who wish to experience Love with another mate? Mostly like of which will be found in a city like enviorment. At some point I will love to ind the woman of my dreams - but I doubt she would be up in the mountains or jungles smiley

Again it depends on your expectations and whether you consider "beauty" to be the superficial bodily features, or the Soul and Spirit. People invariably choose a partner for the same reasons as everything else - because they are concerned about how they are perceived by others. When you think about it, choosing a partner based on how there skin sits on their skeletal structure is shallow at best, and competely fails to take in to account the Mind, Soul and Spiritual qualities of the person.

People in Tibet must find partners otherwise there would not be generations of people living there.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #94 on: September 09, 2008, 23:37:50 »

Feeling very goofy or high spirited right now tongue cool

Sing along with me if you want money cheesy

I am a magnet to MONEY

I am a Magnet to Money...

I now have more then I need..

I am a Magnet to money...

Money Money loves me.. Alrighty!!

I am a Magnet to Money...

I now have more then I need..

I am a Magnet to money...

Money Money loves me.. Alrighty!!

I am a Magnet to Money...

I now have more then I need..

I am a Magnet to money...

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« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2008, 17:51:17 »

Money Money loves me  tongue cheesy- Ha haaaa, you crack me up sometimes L.
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« Reply #96 on: September 13, 2008, 17:12:50 »

Hi everyone, I have not been online in awhile, been addicted to a video game (Harvest Moon). Such things really weaken my Piety.

I first would like to thank Seth and Adrian for the insight on the LOA and Harmony. I am inspired now.

Baki you should ask your self with sincerity how your current place makes you feel. Instead of just visualizing your new house why not feel deep inside that you have tons of space to put your things. Despite what your eyes tell you if you feel like you have a ton of space then you must have a place with a ton of space. It is very wise what Seth said about not thinking about the Future, when or how which is what Adrian has been saying all along. Just feel inside "Now" how you want your situation to make you feel. Then you should visualize AFTER you have the feeling and it is real. I am going to try this myself, just keep feeling how I want to feel about things despite how they are. I shall remember to keep this feeling by focusing on it.


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My car is over 10 years old and runs as well as the day I bought it, yet I am supposed to "change it every couple of years" for the latest model.

I myself have given up driving. I do not believe it to be necessary. I do have my license still just encase of an emergency.

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We should be discussing The Principle of Creation.

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As I have said before I can personally easily live in a cave providing I have a PC and broadband Internet to continue my work.

I can live like this as well. I would also need Internet and my books, meditation cds, head phone ext. In fact I am looking for a cave right now to do the Dark Room Meditation. It is supposed to activate the Penal Gland. I use my closet sometimes but some light still shines through in the day time, plus it is to small.

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However what of those who wish to experience Love with another mate? Mostly like of which will be found in a city like enviorment. At some point I will love to ind the woman of my dreams - but I doubt she would be up in the mountains or jungles

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People in Tibet must find partners otherwise there would not be generations of people living there.

lol I was hoping you'd bring up that point.

Well I am off to "Feel" deep inside how I want my life to be at every moment of the now. Peace and forgiveness.
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« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2008, 19:59:27 »

Isn't there a specific way to deliver your desires to Source so that they can manifest? I mean, just simply thinking and believing you already have it is one thing, and the LOA will bring it to you eventually. But can one deliver a request directly to Source and if so how is this done? Theres way to many bounderies to overcome and and it takes to much time to get what I want just by believing I already have it.
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« Reply #98 on: September 25, 2008, 19:15:44 »

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Isn't there a specific way to deliver your desires to Source so that they can manifest? I mean, just simply thinking and believing you already have it is one thing, and the LOA will bring it to you eventually. But can one deliver a request directly to Source and if so how is this done? Theres way to many bounderies to overcome and and it takes to much time to get what I want just by believing I already have it.

I have some advice and I guess I should also practice this advice. I remember something Adrian said in his book. I know you are trying to get a house and I am trying to change the way I look. Perhaps these are too big to believe in. My only advice is that we should use the Law of Attraction on little things & write down our success. This way we can level up our "Power of Faith".
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« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2008, 01:06:42 »

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Isn't there a specific way to deliver your desires to Source so that they can manifest? I mean, just simply thinking and believing you already have it is one thing, and the LOA will bring it to you eventually. But can one deliver a request directly to Source and if so how is this done? Theres way to many bounderies to overcome and and it takes to much time to get what I want just by believing I already have it.

I have some advice and I guess I should also practice this advice. I remember something Adrian said in his book. I know you are trying to get a house and I am trying to change the way I look. Perhaps these are too big to believe in. My only advice is that we should use the Law of Attraction on little things & write down our success. This way we can level up our "Power of Faith".

Yeah, I do that now. I keep tabs on my successes. I know I will get my house, Im just to impatient about it. It's like ay after day the same thing. I dont see a change or a new road to follow which will bring me closer to what I want. I believe I can change the way I look alot easier then attracting a house wave. Being that your body is with you 24/7, just view it differently and believe what it is you want to see as already there. For me that really isn't to hard. But for attracting outsiings, it is a bit more difficult.  One reason why I want aboundance in wealth is so I dont have to stress the things I want and could rather just have the money now and go out and get it. The universe is to slow man. What if, God forbid, somethinad happens to me before hand?! I wont be able to enjoy it now undecided. All that time I wasted pretending undecided.

I read a course, Advance Cosmic Ordering, where one can make a order with the universe and will recieve it within days to weeks. If this course actually works, then there must be something to it other then just simply pretending you have what it is you want. Everyday I dream about my home. Almost a year now. I even dream about it at night while I sleep and often get in in a very happen mood, but it doesn't last throughout the day as I am reminded of my current position.

A am fimilure with the LOA but am a novice when it comes to consciously using it. Ever physical thing I have I had to work for. Even though I believed I will have it I still had to work for it and thus my dream came true. But some of yous here have convinced me that I do not have to work at all to get what I want and thats what I am trying to utilize right now. How can a man buy a home if he has no income or job? Every says over and over not to use LOA to obtain money but it is that money thats going to get me my house. No one is going to give it to me for free. Its not a parking space or lunch rolleyes.

This is serious man! No one is going to give me a free home. So what then are my options? I need an income. So I must then use LOA to attract bussiness or job oppertunities, but wait!!... I dont want to work... So not what undecided. The Universe isn't going to drop it out of the sky... No one will GIVE it to me... Even building it myself, if I even knew how, will cost..
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« Reply #100 on: September 26, 2008, 02:51:07 »

I read a course, Advance Cosmic Ordering, where one can make a order with the universe and will recieve it within days to weeks.
What I really do not understand is that why all these pages designed in the same manner? Even Adrian uses such attractive texts on his sites. Is that all about only ordering and purchasing products and things, rather than a necessary part of selfless service? How do I know what intentions stands behind?
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« Reply #101 on: September 28, 2008, 13:10:55 »

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I believe I can change the way I look alot easier then attracting a house wave. Being that your body is with you 24/7, just view it differently and believe what it is you want to see as already there. For me that really isn't to hard. But for attracting outsiings, it is a bit more difficult.

You said it yourself. You believe that attracting outside things is harder. I disagree because I don't work, have money, food, shelter, and so on easily without having to think or "worry" about it. Worry will attract what you don't want! For me it just seems so hard to alter the body, I studied Genetics for YEARS, perhaps there views on Scientist gave me strict beliefs about DNA. I used the law of attraction to bring the money in my bank account back up to where it was. It is so easy! I just believe that I will always have that amount, so it always goes back up to that amount. Mind you I don't spend that much of it at once, and I believe it will always go back up to the amount that I consider standard. Money isn't a very important thing for me, one day before becoming Enlightened I will give it up and live off the land. However for right now it is a very easy thing to attract for me.

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One reason why I want aboundance in wealth is so I dont have to stress the things I want and could rather just have the money now and go out and get it. The universe is to slow

Don't stress about them, just have faith that you already have it then ask yourself will I survive without it? If you are desperate about it then Universal Mind that you are apart of will give you more "desperateness".

Money is just random currency, there are other ways to attract things. Communication is one thing, let friends and family know you are looking for a house. To OWN a house in America you have to pay money to the government. This is not the freest Country after all.


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Even though I believed I will have it I still had to work for it and thus my dream came true. But some of yous here have convinced me that I do not have to work at all to get what I want and thats what I am trying to utilize right now.

You have to change that believe first before you can live without working. I used to always hate the idea of having lots of money, perhaps that is why I am good at attracting things. Also have you thought about Karma? Try giving away everything you don't need to others that might desire them.

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How can a man buy a home if he has no income or job? Every says over and over not to use LOA to obtain money but it is that money thats going to get me my house. No one is going to give it to me for free. Its not a parking space or lunch.

This is serious man! No one is going to give me a free home. So what then are my options? I need an income. So I must then use LOA to attract bussiness or job oppertunities, but wait!!... I dont want to work...

You wouldn't buy it without any income. why must you want to possess things? Enjoying something and having it are two different things. Why is it so hard for you to believe that someone wouldn't give you a house? You might meet a friend of mate that invites you to live in there big house and pay a small fee for rent for example. There are many scenarios.

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What I really do not understand is that why all these pages designed in the same manner? Even Adrian uses such attractive texts on his sites. Is that all about only ordering and purchasing products and things, rather than a necessary part of selfless service? How do I know what intentions stands behind?

Hello Ew1g,

I wondered the same thing. The fact is it's a Psychological game to make people think its worth something to them or convince them that its a good buy. They put effort into there product and they want to gain something from it but they also want there product to reach as many people as possible. In Adrian's case it is much more about selfless service. He has already answered your question in a different forum. He dedicates a lot of this time to answering our questions and e-mails for free. It also holds true that in order to publish his book, make it out of materials, and other products such as Cd's that one needs to be paid for it. Adrian also knows that when people get something for free it doesn't seem very valuable.
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« Reply #102 on: September 28, 2008, 18:14:27 »

Wave, you impress me smiley. Your starting to sound like Adrian here smiley

Anyways...

Hi Baki

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I believe I can change the way I look alot easier then attracting a house wave. Being that your body is with you 24/7, just view it differently and believe what it is you want to see as already there. For me that really isn't to hard. But for attracting outsiings, it is a bit more difficult.

You said it yourself. You believe that attracting outside things is harder. I disagree because I don't work, have money, food, shelter, and so on easily without having to think or "worry" about it. Worry will attract what you don't want! For me it just seems so hard to alter the body, I studied Genetics for YEARS, perhaps there views on Scientist gave me strict beliefs about DNA. I used the law of attraction to bring the money in my bank account back up to where it was. It is so easy! I just believe that I will always have that amount, so it always goes back up to that amount. Mind you I don't spend that much of it at once, and I believe it will always go back up to the amount that I consider standard. Money isn't a very important thing for me, one day before becoming Enlightened I will give it up and live off the land. However for right now it is a very easy thing to attract for me.

First of all like I always have stated before, I dont believe something ahead of time - and by that I mean the negative belifs. So no I didn't believe that it was hard when I was begining to attract my house. However over the course of time thoughts began to penetrate my mind set. It seems difficult. If I believe attracting outside things is harder it is only because it seems harder by me attempting it for a long period of time. I dont doubt at first. I always go for it with full intention and desire to have what it is I want. Over the course of time, many ideas and thoughts will come to me whether it be encouraging or otherwise.

I dont doubt that I wont have my house. I still believe it 100%. If you pay a bit more attention my friend you can tell that this is my impatient side of m talking grin

As far as the DNA thing and altering your body. You pretty much doing what you said I was. Quote - "You said it yourself. You believe that attracting outside things is harder." Well your stating that changing the body is harder, at least thats what I'm getting that is what you believe from what you written.

As of now, I do not work. I finally quit that enoying job. I am recieving UIB but that is only for a limitted time only because I wasn't let go. I like hearing that you can attract money to you withou working. Can ya give me some advice on that wink. J/k , ya pretty much told me. I'm going to begin using LOA to attract wealth now. I believe I will have all the money I need. It is just a matter of opening doors for it to come to me. I'm going to start attracting a desired amount into my account, thanks for the idea.

As far as giving up everything and living straight off mother earth. Remember, you have to desire something like that. Those enlightened people who gave up all material possessions only did so once they realised that they didn't need them and thus didn't desire to have them. You have to release all attachments to material things. This process could take a long time depending on the person. It is defenitely something I am not going to rush in my life. It will happen when it does, gradually and if it does.


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One reason why I want aboundance in wealth is so I dont have to stress the things I want and could rather just have the money now and go out and get it. The universe is to slow

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Don't stress about them, just have faith that you already have it then ask yourself will I survive without it? If you are desperate about it then Universal Mind that you are apart of will give you more "desperateness".

I am not really desperate I just desire it. I desire to lve free. Most of my problems are do because of my income. Now mind you before you get into the whole "I believe I dont have enough so there I wouldn't". This situation accord far before I started giving it an attention. I am working on changing my belief on this so and I am seeing some results.

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Money is just random currency, there are other ways to attract things. Communication is one thing, let friends and family know you are looking for a house. To OWN a house in America you have to pay money to the government. This is not the freest Country after all.[/color]

You are right, this country is not as free as they advertise, but hey the only free place is nature. At least thats how I look at it.

People do know I am looking for a house, but I want my own. I dont want to live in someone elses all my life. I want to be the man of my own home!

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Even though I believed I will have it I still had to work for it and thus my dream came true. But some of yous here have convinced me that I do not have to work at all to get what I want and thats what I am trying to utilize right now.

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You have to change that believe first before you can live without working. I used to always hate the idea of having lots of money, perhaps that is why I am good at attracting things. Also have you thought about Karma? Try giving away everything you don't need to others that might desire them.

I see your point. However, as far as me giving away things I dont need, well that happens pretty often. Ihave a simple mind set about needs and wants. Things I "want" can wait, things I "need" I must have now! So anything that I dont need, I dont see the reason to keep it around. Thus I either toss it or give it away.

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How can a man buy a home if he has no income or job? Every says over and over not to use LOA to obtain money but it is that money thats going to get me my house. No one is going to give it to me for free. Its not a parking space or lunch.

This is serious man! No one is going to give me a free home. So what then are my options? I need an income. So I must then use LOA to attract bussiness or job oppertunities, but wait!!... I dont want to work...

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You wouldn't buy it without any income. why must you want to possess things? Enjoying something and having it are two different things. Why is it so hard for you to believe that someone wouldn't give you a house? You might meet a friend of mate that invites you to live in there big house and pay a small fee for rent for example. There are many scenarios.

Well whoever said that I wouldn't enjoy it?! Why do I want to possess things? Heh, that comment almost made it seem as if I'm some rich girl who loves shopping all the time cheesy. No buddy. All my possessions are needed. Well the majority of it anyway but lets not get into that right now. As I said beofore my needs are my needs. What I feel I need may not be what another person may feel he/she needs. Fo example a person with back problems may feel he needs a sorta matress to sleep on or something. While another believes all he needs is a few blankets and the floor!

Why is it so hard to believe that no one will give me a free home you say? Hmm. That is a good question, but come on surely you can understand why cant you? Im not saying it is impossible, just not likely. But hey, I am focuses on my house more then the money for getting it. I'll take it in anyway that it comes whether free or through payments.

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What I really do not understand is that why all these pages designed in the same manner? Even Adrian uses such attractive texts on his sites. Is that all about only ordering and purchasing products and things, rather than a necessary part of selfless service? How do I know what intentions stands behind?

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Hello Ew1g,

I wondered the same thing. The fact is it's a Psychological game to make people think its worth something to them or convince them that its a good buy. They put effort into there product and they want to gain something from it but they also want there product to reach as many people as possible. In Adrian's case it is much more about selfless service. He has already answered your question in a different forum. He dedicates a lot of this time to answering our questions and e-mails for free. It also holds true that in order to publish his book, make it out of materials, and other products such as Cd's that one needs to be paid for it. Adrian also knows that when people get something for free it doesn't seem very valuable.


I dont think I need to respond here on that one wink You pretty much covered it wave.
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« Reply #103 on: September 30, 2008, 14:01:53 »

There are cases where family members give there sons a house or a garage. When you think about it all of the Human Race are family. Give to strangers and strangers will give to you.
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« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2008, 23:36:44 »

There are cases where family members give there sons a house or a garage. When you think about it all of the Human Race are family. Give to strangers and strangers will give to you.

By his posts, I doubt sir Hanma is any such person to receive such an inheritance. As for giving an receiving, this doesn't all ways get you what you want. I gave a lot and still do. Yet I don't receive much in return. It doesn't really bother me that I don't - just trying to make a point here.
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When one seeks the truth, They find it. When one seeks only answeres, they get only answeres. If you dont like the answeres you recieve. Then perhaps you aren't asking the right questions. Why? Because the truth really could hurt! Make sure your up to it!
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