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« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2008, 06:22:12 »

You know what... Let me try to understand this clearly so that I don't jump to conclusions like always. So, sir, your litterally stating that we, as in I and you and everyone else, can make money or some form of income to sustain our needs in this day and age - in this society we live in - without the need for employment? Are you saying that if I stopped working right now, LOA will bring me income to pay my bills and my rent each month, car insurance, food, cloth and all, as long as I believe it will?
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2008, 09:18:41 »

Hello L Lawliet,

You know what... Let me try to understand this clearly so that I don't jump to conclusions like always. So, sir, your litterally stating that we, as in I and you and everyone else, can make money or some form of income to sustain our needs in this day and age - in this society we live in - without the need for employment? Are you saying that if I stopped working right now, LOA will bring me income to pay my bills and my rent each month, car insurance, food, cloth and all, as long as I believe it will?


Well I am living proof of this, as is Seth and many others.

The reason you are asking thequestion, understandably, is because over the years, as with the great majority of people, you associate "work" with "money" with "living", and find difficulty comprehending the alternatives.

Of course, very often our needs are met in the form of money, but the mode of our needs being fulfilled are for Divine providence, not the Ego Mind. I mean clearly Divine Providence will not cause a car insurance certificate to drift out of the sky one fine day Smiley The money will be there to do it.

One day, about 25 years ago I was thinking about money, and then all of a sudden a piece of paper stuck to my windshield. When I looked loser it was a 10 pound note. Then I noticed money flying around in the wind all over the place - there must have been thousands of pounds.

Did I stop and collect it for myself? No. I knew the money was not mine to keep and was a test to see if I would succumb to temptation and greed. When I told people about this experience later, they thought I was insane not to have pocketed the money Smiley

The truth is we always intuitively know when something has been sent for us.

The only reason for this is that cars, car insurance and money are all human constructs, but nevertheless an available channel of manifestation. But the money could arrive through an infinite number of channels. Keep in Mind that Divine Providence has intimate knowledge of each aspect of Gods-self.

If you stopped working you would need to completely remove all doubt from your Mind, and have perfect Faith that all your needs will be met without second guessing how.

If this is too much of a stretch, you could consider starting your own business in something you are passionate about and allow it to unfold. Some people might consider a business to be "working" and often it is, but only if you see it that way.  Many people devote a few hours per week to a business they are passionate about, and which does not seem like "work" and all the rest of the time free to be with families and pursue their passions.

Again - I can only speak from mu own experience and as I know these subjects to be.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.





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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2008, 11:59:42 »

One day, about 25 years ago I was thinking about money, and then all of a sudden a piece of paper stuck to my windshield. When I looked loser it was a 10 pound note. Then I noticed money flying around in the wind all over the place - there must have been thousands of pounds.

Did I stop and collect it for myself? No. I knew the money was not mine to keep and was a test to see if I would succumb to temptation and greed. When I told people about this experience later, they thought I was insane not to have pocketed the money Smiley

And of course money is purely a human construct.  To the Universe money is nothing more than Energy.  So if the same situation were to happen to me I would most likely ask myself "Would I stop to pickup the paper floating around if it were nothing but typing or printer paper?"  Because in truth there is no difference.
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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2008, 12:53:36 »

Hello Kailaurius,

And of course money is purely a human construct.  To the Universe money is nothing more than Energy. 

Yes absolutely.

It is therefore crucial to facilitate this Energy flowing in to our experience and out of experience - the more we facilitate this Energy flow, the more it will be experienced.

Many people block the Energy of money by having thinking in terms of it being "hard to come by" and therefore hoard it, often at the expense of a comfortable lifestyle.

The more we spend and give away joyfully, the more we will receive. There are people out there who spend lots of money without giving any thought of lack, and they always seem to have even more money which they spend on even more material things.

Those who fear spending money will never have much money to fear spending.


So treat money like the Energy it is - joyfully accepting it in to our lives, and spending or giving it again.

When you spend money spend it with an air of joy and gratitude - never with reluctance.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2008, 15:02:33 »

Hi L,  cool



While this 'example' isn't about 'green money' per se...it is about the Universal Principle of cause~effect. Or also known as Law of Attraction.

As I became more 'tapped into' how this applies and is 'working' I found it began with the 'small things'.

I recently became aware of the amount of 'time' my ornamental grasses had been in the ground. Over 5 years. In a landscaper's eye it would be labeled, Uh Oh! That's going to be a b_____ (fill in your own blanks) to dig out.

I said to myself, this will take a bobcat.

This morning, the gas company has been digging up our street to put in new lines. My daughter looking out the front door says, "Uh Oh Mom, they've dug up our front yard and your bed.

As I left to run an errand, I went to speak to them and in the course of conversation I received my desire.

They had a very big bobcat and they apologized for having to remove my very large ornamental grass but that they would replant it.

I said, "Would you mind not replanting it? I need to split it up for propagation, and would you mind digging the one up next to it and leaving it as well?"

The man said, 'Give me a tarp and we'll be happy to do it for you."

In earthly terms this would have 'cost' me $60-180 or so to have done.

Energy was exchanged, it could have been in the form of 'green' paper, it was 'green' Energy being moved. wink

Energy with an Idea = Manifestation. I was open to the how, what, whom, when...without knowing. I also let that desire pass. And was reminded of it this morning. IT was a win ~win. wink

This is just a small idea of an endless Energy in motion that happened to me. The effect was caused when I trusted enough to not give 'it' another thought. Trusted not doubted the answer was already in the mix wink


Love to you always, and always wonderful to see you here L, cool

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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2008, 16:13:36 »

Thank you Julia for that example, even though I don't know what that is he dug up.

Adrian thank you for reminding me how to spend money. It is so easy to forget especially with my Unemployment ending soon. I however never ever think twice before spending money on my friends (within reason).

Money to me is just random currency. I tell myself (One should not be concerned with how to make more money, one should be concerned with how to need less money.) So my life is mostly about detachment & discipline. I will be done driving in three days. I Shall simply walk to the stores we have near by or car pole when convenient. Money seems to come and go like the wind.

You should meditate on why you need money. Those who have money have control over others, those who have piece of mind have control over themselves.

To have money doesn't necessarily mean you are happy. Wealth or Happiness which is more important?
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2008, 18:20:42 »

Hello L Lawliet,

You know what... Let me try to understand this clearly so that I don't jump to conclusions like always. So, sir, your litterally stating that we, as in I and you and everyone else, can make money or some form of income to sustain our needs in this day and age - in this society we live in - without the need for employment? Are you saying that if I stopped working right now, LOA will bring me income to pay my bills and my rent each month, car insurance, food, cloth and all, as long as I believe it will?


Well I am living proof of this, as is Seth and many others.

The reason you are asking thequestion, understandably, is because over the years, as with the great majority of people, you associate "work" with "money" with "living", and find difficulty comprehending the alternatives.

Of course, very often our needs are met in the form of money, but the mode of our needs being fulfilled are for Divine providence, not the Ego Mind. I mean clearly Divine Providence will not cause a car insurance certificate to drift out of the sky one fine day Smiley The money will be there to do it.

One day, about 25 years ago I was thinking about money, and then all of a sudden a piece of paper stuck to my windshield. When I looked loser it was a 10 pound note. Then I noticed money flying around in the wind all over the place - there must have been thousands of pounds.

Did I stop and collect it for myself? No. I knew the money was not mine to keep and was a test to see if I would succumb to temptation and greed. When I told people about this experience later, they thought I was insane not to have pocketed the money Smiley

The truth is we always intuitively know when something has been sent for us.

The only reason for this is that cars, car insurance and money are all human constructs, but nevertheless an available channel of manifestation. But the money could arrive through an infinite number of channels. Keep in Mind that Divine Providence has intimate knowledge of each aspect of Gods-self.

If you stopped working you would need to completely remove all doubt from your Mind, and have perfect Faith that all your needs will be met without second guessing how.

If this is too much of a stretch, you could consider starting your own business in something you are passionate about and allow it to unfold. Some people might consider a business to be "working" and often it is, but only if you see it that way.  Many people devote a few hours per week to a business they are passionate about, and which does not seem like "work" and all the rest of the time free to be with families and pursue their passions.

Again - I can only speak from mu own experience and as I know these subjects to be.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.







 I love that response. I wiah to be more like you though, not having to work for a living and just live you know smiley. I am not really to interested in starting a business, I just want money for what I need and when I need it. Thats all! Problem is, with me, unless I live out in the woods and leave everything behind - this wont happen. Unless I wield the LOA that is grin. I am definitely going to work on this, starting now - RIGHT NOW actually. I am putting together affirmations and creating a track from your Mind Power Studio siuite wink. I just need to convince myself that I already have the things I wont right?

Yeah I was raised to believe in the whole "Money dont grow on trees" nonesense. You must go to college, you must get ab education Baki, you must this and that if you want money. It was soooo annoying to me.

I am not sure but I think in the us, you could get in trouble if you dont work undecided
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« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2008, 19:45:14 »

Hi Wave and All, smiley

I was just sharing a small example of a Universal Principle. It seems we take the 'small things' for granted and sometimes miss them and the way the Principle is always working whether we pay attention to them or not.

There is nothing too big or small for Source, the Universe. wink

Namaste,

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« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2008, 22:04:37 »

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I love that response. I wiah to be more like you though, not having to work

As long as you wish u will always be in doubt.
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« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2008, 11:03:51 »

Yeah I was raised to believe in the whole "Money dont grow on trees" nonesense. You must go to college, you must get ab education Baki, you must this and that if you want money. It was soooo annoying to me.

I am not sure but I think in the us, you could get in trouble if you dont work undecided

You are still placing conditions on yourself as well as pre-conceived ideas such as having to live in the woods.

What you should so is to forget about the concept of "money", decide what you actually do want in absolute terms and focus on that.

If working is compulsory in the US, you should take the next plane out Smiley

Did you know that there is no obligation to pay income tax in the USA? There has never been a statute in US law that says income tax is legal. Many IRS tax collectors who discovered this quit their jobs, got another job and refused to pay tax.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2008, 15:10:29 »

Greetings,

Adrian is quite correct, income tax is collected to repay money borrowed from the Federal Reserve Bank by the government. Which is a privately owned bank, not a part of the federal government.
There is also no laws that make paying it mandatory, but don't pay and you are fined heavily, jailed, or both.
It is not mandatory to work in the US either, but if you do not your considered indigent, and if you live well without a job, the IRS is all over you.
Soon money will be totally electronic making all your transaction readily available to the government and credit agencies and most likely to anyone that will pay for the information.

I love this discussion and it is so appropriate for this time in my life.
Thank you all for your contributions.

WithIn  Love,

Darrell
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« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2008, 17:15:01 »

Dear all,

It is indeed true that taxation has historically been levied to pay back the Federal Reserve bank which is as "federal" as Federal Express.

The Federal reserve act was pushed through on the back of a different bill at a time when most of the government were on holiday. A great deal could be said about the Federal Reserve bank, but this is not the appropriate forum.  Suffice it to say that they are controlled from Europe, owned by a consortium of mostly European banks, and apparently, although I answer to the British Monarchy.

On the legality of tax - there have been many IRS tax officials leaving the the IRS after discovering they were taking money from citizens under false pretences, and now they pay no tax at all - legally.

If this scam were to be exposed and tried in court as for example a class action law suite, the IRS would be faced with repaying trillions of dollars in "tax".

As far as I know, the US is one of the only countries that taxes, illegally, it's citizens regardless of where they are resident.

The amusing thing from my perspective is that where I live is one of the major offshore tax jurisdictions - sometimes known as "havens", and there is probably billions of dollars of cash deposited here by US individuals and companies not paying tax. Quite a few US citizens actually come to live here. A recent neighbour of mine living in the house next door was from Washington DC.

But getting back to the topic - if you can use the LOA, you need not concern yourself with any of this.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
 

 

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« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2008, 18:19:03 »

if you can use the LOA, you need not concern yourself with any of this.

I most certainly agree.  Just knowing and believing that information brings a wonderful feeling of liberation and freedom.  Again, as has been mentioned many times here, what happens to a society is ultimately determined by the collective consciousness.  So basically the entire tax situation exists as a result of our own collective energy.  It can be similar to how a cancer can manifest at individual level of consciousness.  But like Adrian suggests I do not concern myself with anything related to taxes, debt, financial status, etc.  For myself the only thing I focus on these days is spiritual development and selfless service to wherever I'm able to provide it, which at them moment is my family.

There's a chapter in the Bible I enjoy:

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15 Then the Pharisees met together to plot how to trap Jesus into saying something for which he could be arrested.

16 They sent some of their disciples, along with the supporters of Herod, to meet with him. “Teacher,” they said, “we know how honest you are. You teach the way of God truthfully. You are impartial and don’t play favorites.

17 Now tell us what you think about this: Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?”

18 But Jesus knew their evil motives. “You hypocrites!” he said. “Why are you trying to trap me?

19 Here, show me the coin used for the tax.” When they handed him a Roman coin,[a]

20 he asked, “Whose picture and title are stamped on it?”

21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.

“Well, then,” he said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.”

22 His reply amazed them, and they went away.
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« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2008, 19:15:25 »

Adrian, how are you today smiley. Do you ever read newspapers or watch the news? If so,you would now that Wesley Snipes got arrested for not paying his taxes. Not sure precisely what taxes are we talking of here, but sir Hanma may be on to something undecided
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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2008, 19:41:08 »

Hi all
Wesley Snipes was sentenced to three years in jail for failing to file his income taxes.
The sentence was in everyone's estimation severe - but the judge  was ' setting an example ' for others, particularly for celebrities.
I saw interviews with two ex IRS agents that are not filing anymore, but the IRS is taking steps to prosecute them as well. Be assured they will too.
Legality of all this is irrelevant in the US.
In 1989 the Supreme court of the US ruled the the electoral college, which actually votes in the president regardless of the popular vote, to be unconstitutional. Yet it reigns on here.
In 1979 the same court ruled that the auto industry was the more dishonest, deceptive and criminal than the Mafia, and nothing ever changed as as result.
As Adrian pointed out, a class action suit would cause the needed momentum, yet unity in such matters remains as illusive as what we call justice here.

But back to topic, as they say.
Such things will continue as they always have in one form or another as they always have. But in this era we have options as never before, to rise above all this and engage power stronger than the ones discussed above.

WithIN Love
Darrell
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