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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2008, 13:04:17 »

Hi Bakichan and All,  smiley

Just sharing some thoughts with you here.

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I want to use LOA to get a house. The problem is I am not too picky of the house I want so I have a tough time visualizing the exact home in all it's details. I just want a descent home with lots of space. Do I have to visualize to use the LOA? I dont really have a particular look for it.



We are natural co-creators. Sometimes it seems the 'terms' of what we define as LOA gets in the way because we are focusing too much on the idea of it and not recognizing that we do this naturally. Where you are living in this moment was created by you to have the experience. Now you have had this experience and a desire to grow has been inspired within you to expand your experience of having a home.

This is how it naturally happens. Your desire to Ask is being Divinely Inspired in you to 'Ask' and you are answered already. Your house is already here and you will be in it when your desire is aligned with already having it.

It is aligning our energy to draw what is towards us by our energy. Our feeling. Like a magnet.
We do not create something so much from nothing. Everything that is created has been created by Source and is already available. You just have to 'shop' for it in the proper place. Go to the right level to find it. It's there just waiting for you to 'pick it up'.

As to visualizing it, visualize yourself with feeling the having of it. Like right now you know what it feels like to live in your current place. You see yourself coming home, opening the door, going into the living room and taking off your shoes and then the kitchen to get something to drink and so on. That isn't a stretch because you are already expereincing the doing of these things.

Now just do it with your growing space. See yourself coming home to it which is where a manifestation mandala or board is helpful in assisting you. Look at magazines and pick out a front door that you see yourself opening and so on...it can be really fun and you actually begin to discover 'things' about yourself that maybe you never noticed but was always there just waiting...Surprise Bakichan!! wink

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InJoy this day, Love to you always,


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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2008, 13:20:52 »

Hello Awakened Soul,

Adrian,

Perhaps a weird comparison, but is this process of making the Subconsious Conscious similar to becoming aware that you're dreaming and instead of just acting silly in the dreamworld, you now can do things fully conscious while still dreaming, in a lucid state of mind?

It is related. It is still possible to be fully God realised but still cling to the material world. In reality it is unlikely however as such a person would, by that stage, almpst certainly see the physical world for what it is.

The Subconscious Mind is really an anomaly and due to the involution of humanity. If you think about it - what is the point in aving a feeble conscious sphere of Mind - the Ego - and then an intermediate sphere of Mind between the Ego and Universal Mind, when there can be a direct connection between conscious Mind, or Human Mind and Universal Mind? We are dirrectly connected to Universal Mind so we should be conscious of that connection.

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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2008, 16:50:50 »

Thanks for your response juliainkc, I really enjoyed reading it. Mainly cause it is practically what I am doing now, just trying to visualize being in the house I want. Its just that I am not to picky and I remember Talker saying one time that I had to visulize the house in all its detail. I dont need alot of details for a house. It doesn't have to be too big or whatever, just spaceous.

kendar, you asked a very good question. I would love to hear of others manifestations through the LOA and tips on how they used it.

And Adrian, even though you didn't answere me directly wink I learned much from your responses to the other members in this topic. I never believed one could still cling to the material world after fully realising God 24/7. I thought their vibrations would be way too high to exist here in the physical. Making the Subconscious Mind Conscious and Consciously realising God within are some real goals to push for smiley
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2008, 17:05:26 »

Hello Baki Hanma,
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And Adrian, even though you didn't answere me directly wink I learned much from your responses to the other members in this topic. I never believed one could still cling to the material world after fully realising God 24/7. I thought their vibrations would be way too high to exist here in the physical. Making the Subconscious Mind Conscious and Consciously realising God within are some real goals to push for smiley

Well "cling" is probably not the most appropriate word in retrospect.

There are other aspects that need to be realised such as service to others before service to self, but I think it true to say that anyone reaching these levels of achievement will simply be in fine-tuning mode.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2008, 09:19:14 »

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I think it true to say that anyone reaching these levels of achievement will simply be in fine-tuning mode.

Oh so it's like being aware of everything rather then what you see or know from physical experience. You can come and "play" on the physical world, but your main objective is for advancing inwardly.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2008, 12:49:42 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Oh so it's like being aware of everything rather then what you see or know from physical experience. You can come and "play" on the physical world, but your main objective is for advancing inwardly.

Yes - that is a good analogy.

I, and many others here know the physical world for what it is, and are here for a specific purpose.

Those who do not will transition to the Astral after "death" in order to continue their illusion.

Many would rather not be here, but at the same time will continue until their mission is completed.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2008, 13:13:34 »

How do you know what your mission is? How do I know what it is I am sent here to be or do? As od now I am only living a general life, pretty much, and doing the things I am passionate about doing. I sense no divine purpose in me being here  undecided.

By "Rather not be here" - are you referring to the Higher self?
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2008, 14:20:14 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

How do you know what your mission is? How do I know what it is I am sent here to be or do? As od now I am only living a general life, pretty much, and doing the things I am passionate about doing. I sense no divine purpose in me being here  undecided.

By "Rather not be here" - are you referring to the Higher self?

When you are engaged in your mission or intended experience you will always know intuitively and from your feelings. If you feel miserable you are not doing what you are here to do. If you are following your passions then you are - otherwise you would not feel passionate about it in the first place.

We all serve a Divine purpose.

Through each of us the Divine expresses and experiences - and that runs the whole spectrum of human experience.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2008, 22:43:32 »

Oh so an athlete who is passonate about his sport or a boxer like Mike Tyson, they were all sent here to do those things? I thought we were sent here to help evothe planet and help each other? What about those who are not passionate of such things. Those horrible people who go atound harming others, is that what they are sent here to do? Was those terrist sent here to do what they did? I just want to know is there a difference between living the way you want and living the way you should - as in what your sent here to be doing.
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2008, 03:06:11 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Oh so an athlete who is passonate about his sport or a boxer like Mike Tyson, they were all sent here to do those things? I thought we were sent here to help evothe planet and help each other? What about those who are not passionate of such things. Those horrible people who go atound harming others, is that what they are sent here to do? Was those terrist sent here to do what they did? I just want to know is there a difference between living the way you want and living the way you should - as in what your sent here to be doing.

Some people realise their passions, others do not, and yet others become passionate about other things for other reasons.

Few came to Earth to specifically be passionate about sports and hobbies since these are human constructs, yet we all need rest and relaxation.

Sometimes sports and hobbies become something that a person is here for.

But the important point is that anything that can help raise your vibration is good providing it does not harm other Beings.

In absolute terms most come to Earth to gain overall experience, but very often, especially with advanced Spirits or those who ordinarily are beyond the cycle of incarnation, they come to Earth for a very specific reason.

I think it is fair to say though that few who persistently harm others are passionate about dong so, because to do so is not a natural state - apart from which "passion" and a desire to hurt others are at opposite ends of the vibrational scale.

As to what motivates such people - who knows?

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2008, 03:37:45 »

Oh, well I am passionate about being atheltic. I rarely compete in sports where I am seen on tv, but I do enjoy the feeling of a good days workout. I do sometimes have the desire to become an olympic athlete. I feel really energized when I finish a work out or game, rather then tired like most people do. I can't really say why I do it other then the joy of it. Maybe it is the rush of adrenne and endorphines, but anyway my point is I dont know of my divine purpose for being here. I am basically doing whatever makes me feel good, except working at this job I have rolleyes.

I tend to help others as well in any way I can or feel comfortable doing. Pretty much I see myself as an average guye or less with a few extras.

Would you mind telling what it is you feel your sent here to do?
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2008, 06:28:43 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Oh, well I am passionate about being atheltic. I rarely compete in sports where I am seen on tv, but I do enjoy the feeling of a good days workout. I do sometimes have the desire to become an olympic athlete. I feel really energized when I finish a work out or game, rather then tired like most people do. I can't really say why I do it other then the joy of it. Maybe it is the rush of adrenne and endorphines, but anyway my point is I dont know of my divine purpose for being here. I am basically doing whatever makes me feel good, except working at this job I have rolleyes.

If you do what makes you feel good, such as athletics, then you are on the right track - excuse the pun Smiley

So many people think in terms of money first and then passions second - it should always be the other way around.

Money is not important in absolute terms - we can have anything we can desire - but top athletes and others at the top of their sports get paid alot of money.  Michael Phelps makes millions each year in sponsorship - he received a $1M bonus for winning the 8 gold medals.

Not so long back the Olympics was purely amateur and no sponsorship was allowed.

But taking athletics as an example - if you followed that passion and made a name for yourself, you could become a coach, write a book, get sponsors, start your own gymn or health club, and so on.

You do not even need to think about these things - just follow your passions and everything else will follow.

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Pretty much I see myself as an average guye or less with a few extras.

That is not the way you should see yourself otherwise you will experience an "average" life as an "average" person - although there is no such thing as an average person in reality - I am simply making the point.

See yourself as a top athlete or whatever you wish to be - feel it, dream it, live it and know it to be true - and so it will.

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Would you mind telling what it is you feel your sent here to do?

I do not know specifically, but I am sure I am doing it and have been all my life. Often it is not until we review our lives so far that it all makes sense.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2008, 08:11:28 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

Oh, well I am passionate about being atheltic. I rarely compete in sports where I am seen on tv, but I do enjoy the feeling of a good days workout. I do sometimes have the desire to become an olympic athlete. I feel really energized when I finish a work out or game, rather then tired like most people do. I can't really say why I do it other then the joy of it. Maybe it is the rush of adrenne and endorphines, but anyway my point is I dont know of my divine purpose for being here. I am basically doing whatever makes me feel good, except working at this job I have rolleyes.

If you do what makes you feel good, such as athletics, then you are on the right track - excuse the pun Smiley

So many people think in terms of money first and then passions second - it should always be the other way around.

Money is not important in absolute terms - we can have anything we can desire - but top athletes and others at the top of their sports get paid alot of money.  Michael Phelps makes millions each year in sponsorship - he received a $1M bonus for winning the 8 gold medals.

Not so long back the Olympics was purely amateur and no sponsorship was allowed.

But taking athletics as an example - if you followed that passion and made a name for yourself, you could become a coach, write a book, get sponsors, start your own gymn or health club, and so on.

You do not even need to think about these things - just follow your passions and everything else will follow.

Thanks, I do feel like this is what I should do. Whether or not it serves a divine purpose or helps others is another point I was trying to make. I like to think of what I do as a hobby rather then something I am forced to do. I do it cause I love doing it. Many people tell me that I should run track, or play foot ball or participate in some major sport. The thing is I just like to have fun with it and I dont always take it as serious as the next man. Which is why I dont really play sports that much unless it is for fun.

I also appreciate the results such training has had on my body. I feel fit and feel good and I look like I wish to, and am full of energy. I practice Chi Kung and do martial arts nd am passionate about doing them but only for the experience and not to show off for fame or money. I know this may sound a bit selfish but if anything maybe I am here to experience these particular events and the joy of doing them.

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That is not the way you should see yourself otherwise you will experience an "average" life as an "average" person - although there is no such thing as an average person in reality - I am simply making the point.

Well I typo that sorry. I meant to say that I pretty much see myself as the average man with a little extra. The extra is my hobbies - the training and all the other things I do that not many people do around me. Of course I dont really feel average, just look it. Im not up there with the famous movie stars and popular people, thats what I meant by being average.

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See yourself as a top athlete or whatever you wish to be - feel it, dream it, live it and know it to be true - and so it will.

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Would you mind telling what it is you feel your sent here to do?

I do not know specifically, but I am sure I am doing it and have been all my life. Often it is not until we review our lives so far that it all makes sense.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.

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I see, well I hope you stay on your path then, whatever it may be  smiley
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2008, 09:47:51 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

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Thanks, I do feel like this is what I should do. Whether or not it serves a divine purpose or helps others is another point I was trying to make.

Every single human being is serving a Divine purpose.

The Prime Creator is perfect, and gives life to nothing that is wasted.

Through you, me, human beings and all Life God expresses and experiences, which serves the highest Divine purpose.

In Love and Light,

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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2008, 23:10:56 »

Hello Baki Hanma,

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Thanks, I do feel like this is what I should do. Whether or not it serves a divine purpose or helps others is another point I was trying to make.

Every single human being is serving a Divine purpose.

The Prime Creator is perfect, and gives life to nothing that is wasted.

Through you, me, human beings and all Life God expresses and experiences, which serves the highest Divine purpose.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.


Ok, I will keep that in mind, thanks  smiley - I will just continue to do what I do then, but make improvements here and there as well.

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I remember you stating in another forum a while back that we can get all we want without ever needing to work - You know what I mean, go through the routine of working for like 60 years then retire on a pension. How would you suggest we recieve income to support ourselves if we not have jobs. Can the LOA bring us money without having a job?
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