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« Reply #60 on: August 21, 2008, 03:28:31 »

Hello Wavepsychic,

Thank you Adrian, I completely believe you on everything you said. I only wish that I could be a good speaker & say these things when people get mad that I simply exist as a Vegan. There is yet something I do not get.

You owe no one an explanation.

They "get mad" at you because they do not understand, and want you to conform to their programming.

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The reason is this - all we ever need to do is to realise the Perfect Image that God holds of us and it shall be so.

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I still do not understand what this means! What is the image that the source holds of me? Is it different then then one I imagine when I do my Meditations? I say I have faith, I believe that the source will give me everything I need, I try not to think Negatively but I still don't have a full head of hair! At some point I have to say "OK this isn't working, what am I going to do". What do I need to do to get the source to think of me with all my hair? Please it is so important to me, I have been trying for 4 years to do this with spiritual power and nothing!

Perfection takes into account that everyone is unique and individual with different features etc.

Perfection means perfect health, perfect weight  - which is an aspect of health, perfectly "aged" although ageing does not exist - we look the ideal age and so on.  In short the image is one of a perfect Spiritual body which is then reflected in the corporeal body, it is not an image of specific features, because to Source, of which we are an expression, we always look beautiful, just as a child does to the child's parents.

So to realise this perfection is to know, beyond doubt, that your body is glowing with health, and knows no imperfections.

If your perfection is a full head of hair, then it will happen providing you have Faith in the process. Source, or the Subconscious Mind which is an aspect of Source has absolute control over the hormones and other chemicals and factors in your body responsible for hair loss, and can easily reverse the process. The Subconscious Mind will always create the body you known and feel you have.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.


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« Reply #61 on: August 21, 2008, 14:25:40 »

Hi Wave, smiley

I enjoyed your post here and I sense the absolute sincerity of what you are both saying and asking me here.


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Hi Julia

I agree with everything you said, I really do but I do not think you answered my question.


I ask that you receive this in the Spirit of Love as I am receiving this in kind. Let's commune together here.

The keyword here is 'but'...that precludes a condition my friend. This is what I have been sharing.

Any thought or statement or opinion that carrys a 'but' contains an inclusion or exclusion. That was what I was sharing in my response earlier. Inclusion or exclusion of any kind is a condition my friend.


Open Heart, Open Mind and Open Spirit doesn't hold to anything at all. We are naturally Trusting that everything is as Source designs it to be. Running smoothly. This is a tough one to unwrap ones noggin' around. We are so conditioned to have an opinion about everything in order to 'define' ourselves. The 'reason' things seem imperfect is because we have chosen to selectively pick things apart (separate things). This is not Unity.

My quirky sense of humor goes to children and animals. I've never heard a child say I am human being until they are 'told' this. I've never heard a cat say 'I'm a cat.' We name these things so we can 'communicate' the language that is traditionally used in this reality. We begin to focus on the 'words' and define their meanings more giving them energy and creating weight to these things and we then forget that this is about having an experience not not having one. Feeling our way through not thinking our way through. It is obvious that we all do this. It's being aware that we are doing this. That's enough for me to focus on. My self and the unlearning to think in this way at all. We are having this experience, I have to choose or decide am I experiencing through my Heart or my Head?

My head gives me all sorts of 'troubles'. My Heart never lies to me.


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If you eat god in the form of plants and animals that is bad karma, bad for your health, & lowers Vitality. I understand that having faith in the creator that your life will be guided. I however want to point out that your body is not the boss but it needs love. Its one thing to say you love your body, its another to put things into it that doesn't belong there because that isn't very respectful. Eating the wrong things will cause your health to fade. Sure being one with the creator is healthy but you still needs to show you are a Evolved person.

God is in everything Wave. There is nothing that is made that God IS not in. And Love is the Energy in all these things because God IS Love and cannot be otherwise. Not will be, could be, should be. Present tense. IS. Now. In all these things. We are in this equation. In a sense All are food for the Universe as in Us. We give Life to Life. It's a cycling through. The 'death' process is just filtering out the experiences to allow for new experiences. Holding on is what creates all sorts of back ups, or leads to 'death' which for myself equals a 'dead end'. Which door do I choose? Mmm.. the 'OPENED' one. wink

I am not speaking of love based on our ideas of what love is (a changing meaning) which comes from the ego and is conditional. Only up to this ( a limitation) , nope, can't have that now can we!

What results from thinking with these terms? Really, I ask myself this all the time. Is thinking this thought leading me to Peace and Acceptance of all others? Flowing with the Flow? Or is this making me uncomfortable and my gut is beginning to feel a sensation that I am not enjoying (resisting). Uh Oh! here we go! Another run around the wheel. We tend to base our current thoughts on emotions that are attached to our pasts. We can tell by the repeated ways of reacting and responding to any circumstance.

You just wiped out the planet!! wink Just teasing you here.


I do not know what you eat, and I am not telling you what to eat. I am just saying that just believing you're healthy & doing unhealthy things isn't going to make you healthy.

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I NEVER tell people what to eat unless they tell me they want to lose weight & ask for advice. Yet everywhere I go when people find out that I am a Vegetarian (Vegan a lot of the time) they tell me how I am wrong & unhealthy! Without me saying anything other then "I am a Vegetarian". I never tell them its unethical to eat the way they eat, never tell them the way they are feeding there children is wrong, never tell them about the health risks with eating dead animals, yet they treat me like I am some kind of terrorist, trying to get me to change my ways because I am somehow wrong!

Real Communication is actually more sensing than speaking with words. The underlying gut sensing and reading subconsciously the body language. Even though you may not 'tell' others what to eat or that what they are eating is killing god, unless asked, are you holding to these thoughts within?

Not speaking them out loud but hiding them within? This is sensed in others and in reflection, in kind you receive what you are emoting or feeling within by your creating via the real feeling of your inner intentions resulting in the manifestation. You are being told you are wrong in regards to your eating habits in your environment. I have shared before that you cannot fool your Authentic Higher God Self.

If you could hear my voice in this moment Wave, it is not harsh at all. I am looking straight into your eyes while asking these questions I understand that only you can answer for yourself as only I can and all others.

This is why I sense the response I received came through this channel earlier. What is driving you in the choices you are making for yourself?


People erroneously say things like, how do you get any iron, or where do you get your protein from, or you need meat protein because of the polyotides in them or something like that. None of these people ever even tried to be a Vegetarian to see how it feels. I do not believe they have the right to have an opinion in that case. I know I shouldn't rant on like this I have enough Fortitude and Stamina to resist people. I just don't want Julia to think that belief alone will give perfect health without acting on the beliefs.[/quote]

It isn't so much about believing Wave. It is based on trust. The measure of trust one has, relaxed and in peaceful state of being that their Source is handling the Universe and everyone's unique experience will determine the level of experience that one has here.There is always room to grow.

In closing I will answer your question which I sense is the Heart of the matter here. What does Julia eat?

Julia was always getting yelled at for not eating. yes. They worried that I would shrivel up and die. I'm still here Wave. wink

I really do not give alot of 'weight' to eating or physical aspects of this experience. I focus on the way I desire to feel. And I am open to whatever the Universe is creating in my picture.

I have an Asian mother and an American father who was a southern farm boy meat and potatoes man.

I took bites (sampled) all these things growing up and traveling all over different parts of the planet and tasted food from all different cultures. That's the blessings of having an open experience in life. I ate Japanese, Philipino. Indian, African American, British, Chinese, German, Dutch, Thai, Vietnamese, Portuguese, Mexican, the list goes on...

What I recall the most in these experiences wasn't the food. It was the relationship I had with the Beings sharing our Energy in a common experience. I was shown the true focus of the experience. I honestly can't recall the food. I do remember with fondness the many wonderful ones I have shared intimate moments with. Eating is an act of intimacy. Really.

I agree with Darrell in the Children's thread regarding children's eating habits and I also agree with Adrian in not deciding for anyone what they should eat.

Rice and veges, miso soup, fruits and nuts and once in awhile I may be served protein. I accept it. I give thanks for what is presented before me and I enjoy it in the Loving Energy it is given. And that my friend is when Julia eats. Yes, still like that. I have to be reminded to eat still. I truly do not give my Energy to it very much.

It has kept me slender. I am not boasting here. I notice that people who have 'weight' issues are very focused on it. They mention it all the time. The same goes for anything physical. I don't like this about myself and want to change it. Change, all change comes from within.

The 'time' is coming where we will change clothes, what we eat, what we wear, how we look. We won't be 'needing' these things at all.

I hope I have answered your question. I desired to give you due response so I waited until I could truly share my Heart with yours.

No matter what Wave, Julia accepts you and Loves you the way you are right now.

It's a given.


Love to you Always, In Divine Spirit, InJoy this day Being Wave,


Julia



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« Reply #62 on: August 22, 2008, 23:22:41 »

Hi Adrian and Julia

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You owe no one an explanation.

They "get mad" at you because they do not understand, and want you to conform to their programming.

That is the perfect explanation. You seem very good at Psychology.

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Perfection means perfect health, perfect weight  - which is an aspect of health, perfectly "aged" although ageing does not exist - we look the ideal age and so on.  In short the image is one of a perfect Spiritual body which is then reflected in the corporeal body, it is not an image of specific features, because to Source, of which we are an expression, we always look beautiful, just as a child does to the child's parents.

So to realise this perfection is to know, beyond doubt, that your body is glowing with health, and knows no imperfections.

If your perfection is a full head of hair, then it will happen providing you have Faith in the process. Source, or the Subconscious Mind which is an aspect of Source has absolute control over the hormones and other chemicals and factors in your body responsible for hair loss, and can easily reverse the process. The Subconscious Mind will always create the body you known and feel you have.

In Love and Light,

You Inspire me, I never really lost faith. I have faith that the creator has given me everything I need including my hair. The Source is my hair. I am also changing my diet again...

Today Liquitarian
Tomorrow Fruitatian
Sunday Liquitarian
Monday Fruitatian
Tuesday Liquitarian
Wednesday Fruitatian
Thursday Liquitarian
Friday HuhHuh??

Keep in mind when I say Liquitarian I mean only water, so I'm fasting.


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God is in everything Wave. There is nothing that is made that God IS not in. And Love is the Energy in all these things because God IS Love and cannot be otherwise. Not will be, could be, should be. Present tense. IS. Now.

I fully agree, The source is the fruit I am eating but at least it doesn't hurt or kill anything to eat it. It also has more life force then anything killed or cooked.

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Even though you may not 'tell' others what to eat or that what they are eating is killing god, unless asked, are you holding to these thoughts within?

That is a good Theory but its wrong. Since I have been an on and off Vegan for a long time I do not think it is wise to tell others how to eat or even judge them for it. They will eat healthy when they are ready to rather they believe in it or not. Even if it takes a hundred life times. Thank you for the information on you & I have always been way to picky to try so many foods! It is good that you got to travel though. I feel extremely healthy all of the time.

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I notice that people who have 'weight' issues are very focused on it. They mention it all the time. The same goes for anything physical. I don't like this about myself and want to change it. Change, all change comes from within.

This is good advice, worth reading another super long post from Julia. I'll apply this to what I desire.
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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2008, 13:14:38 »

Good Day Wave, cool

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You owe no one an explanation.

They "get mad" at you because they do not understand, and want you to conform to their programming.

This is a very 'True' statement as it applies to All. And I say this by this recognition. Do you 'look' or seem like anyone else? Do you 'talk' as in intonations, mannerisms and such as anyone else? I do not know your answer to this Wave. I only know mine and my answer is No I do not. You see if this is the way, then we would all live in the same house, drive the same car, wear the same clothes, have the same eyes, ears, nose, etc. So unlike children from the same Source. rolleyes wink My brother doesn't look or 'act' anything like me but we share the same parents 'Source'.  wink

I do not desire others to be like me at all. That is boring with capital letters. wink That's looking to feel safe by controlling ones environment. This is not Trust. Trust is without telling based on a belief (not the same as Trusting) that one must 'be' a certain way to be 'safe' or in some cases here 'saved'. Like you cannot enter 'Heaven' without Jesus Christ as your 'Saviour'. wink

Irritating or Inter-resting? One decides. Personal decisions to be made here my friend for All of 'us'. Yes?

I truly feel for you that pardon the expression here; 'size' or 'length' seems to be an 'issue' or repeated point with you in previous mentionings. I have 'responded to 'long' responses here in this forum as I am led to share. I do not come in with any intentions but to be open to the process or Divne Leading. wink Forgive me but this is for my own 'benefit' or growth. wink Size for size. wink As in I see you as 'Big Enough'.

I shared here recently in another post what applies here as well for myself in responding to your response:

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There is room for all.

Do you believe this and know this with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your Spirit?

Because if this is your truth my friend then isn't it enough for you to know this and trust that 'God' is handling all the details for all?

I am my own student and teacher ( as you are) in how I receive (as you do) what is filtering through from my Higher Self which connects me directly to Source or Original Being, isn't this true for all?

I believe (via Trust) that you as we all here have, have more than enough to learn by teaching our own selves based on and through our own unique life experience. This is what makes ones relationship with ones God 'personal' or Intimate.

It's your One on One.

You see it doesn't matter to me either what you believe or think. Because if it did, honestly you wouldn't fit the bill in my picture. You limit my picture in this type of thinking. wink


I am being Divinely led and taken care of and I have the faith and trust to believe the same applies for all other 'aspects of God' (in this case Wave).

Shining the Inner Light by removing the barriers to Love's presence. Bring the Light together by Unity not separation. Also known as forgiveness.
 
Ask for Divine Wisdom and Discernment.

And I will say this to you as I did to another; how can you know what one's 'Inner intentions' are? I will add that is being a 'peeping' tom. wink

Perhaps we could agree to leave it to Source who sees the Whole picture and trust in this. That is what I am 'hearing' from within.


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 1If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
 
3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,  but have not love, I gain nothing.
 
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
 
5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
 
6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

 8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

9For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
 
10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.
 
11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.
 
12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. Isn't this what we all desire Wave to be fully accepted in Love no matter what?
 
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. (Without conditions).  smiley
 

What I believe based on this Trust Wave is that 'God' -Source -Tao, is big enough to contain all and is in each one of us.

Peace is a very good indicator of who is leading in ones experience my friend. I do have a Peace that surpasses all understanding. I trust the same for you.

Love,

Julia
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« Reply #64 on: November 06, 2008, 18:54:42 »

Wave, I just wanted to say thankyou for the youtube video you posted.  Near the end when she was explaining the house of souls, it brought me such feelings of nostalgia and rememberance - as if I KNOW that home already but only have forgotten due to this life on earth. 

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« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2008, 14:45:54 »

Wave, I just wanted to say thankyou for the youtube video you posted.  Near the end when she was explaining the house of souls, it brought me such feelings of nostalgia and rememberance - as if I KNOW that home already but only have forgotten due to this life on earth. 



Oh the Raja Yoga? I like that kind of Yoga. They say yoga is more of a meditation to connect with the Divine so if anything thats it!

In Lovingness ~Louis
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« Reply #66 on: November 07, 2008, 15:21:32 »

Well yes but I was talking more about the video about meditation and the meditation itself.    cheesy
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