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« on: March 27, 2008, 04:37:26 »

Hello Adrian or any one else who can help me. I have been seeing a Reiki healer of late who has lent me the book by Paramahansa Yogananda. My Reiki healer also does Kriya Yoga medataion and techniques. From what I have read and seen it seems as though it is a powerful technique of meditation as it is passed on from the gurus themselves etc. I already meditate every day and have had some great expriences. Is there any advice or opinoins on this. Is it any "better" than other techniques and is it worthwhile following through and see for myself. Any help much appreciated. Thank you .

Gary
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 16:49:10 »

Hello Gary,

It is always worth trying new techniques, to see if they enhance the experiences already known to you. Kriya Yoga is a well known technique by seasoned Yoga practitioners. But the value of it depends on your sincerity of yourself to achieve the stated goals. Yoga is one of the most ancient of spiritual practices, originally ascribed the title of a science.
If it is working for you, you will know it. If it is not, then you will know that also. All spiritual practices are tools. Tools aid you in who you already are. Yoga reveals your self to you.

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 03:17:23 »

Hey Thank you so much for the reply. I will let you know how I go and see how it feels. Much appreciated. Gary
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 16:46:04 »

I have been watching videos about Kriya Yoga & I came across something called Raja Yoga Mediation. It seems like a very good Mediation for opening the almost impossible to hope 7th Chakra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWQC4hT-pQ&feature=related

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 16:58:41 »

Hello Sativaguitar,

Hello Adrian or any one else who can help me. I have been seeing a Reiki healer of late who has lent me the book by Paramahansa Yogananda. My Reiki healer also does Kriya Yoga medataion and techniques. From what I have read and seen it seems as though it is a powerful technique of meditation as it is passed on from the gurus themselves etc. I already meditate every day and have had some great expriences. Is there any advice or opinoins on this. Is it any "better" than other techniques and is it worthwhile following through and see for myself. Any help much appreciated. Thank you .

Gary

I personally regard Kriya Yoga to be the "truest" Yoga in that it is the version which most closely adheres to the true objective of Yoga, by definition, a state of union with the Divine.

The Yoga as practiced in the west is little more than an alternative to aerobics, gymn etc.

I believe Kriya Yoga is also the most ancient and possibly original form of Yoga.

It would be wrong to suggest that one form of Yoga is better than another because everyone has their own needs and aspirations, but from what you say I would think that Kriya Yoga would be very appropriate for you.

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 17:22:21 »

Hello Adrian, now you just opened up a whole bunch of questions in me!

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The Yoga as practiced in the west is little more than an alternative to aerobics, gymn etc.

I believe Kriya Yoga is also the most ancient and possibly original form of Yoga.

It would be wrong to suggest that one form of Yoga is better than another because everyone has their own needs and aspirations, but from what you say I would think that Kriya Yoga would be very appropriate for you.

I pay 14 dollars every week to go to Yoga Class. I thought it was helping me to open up my chakras. In any case I need something to keep my body in healthy. My Yoga Instructor says the yoga she teaches is the BEST. I agree that it gives the most muscle pains & is very well thought out. However are you saying that a Mediation Yoga is the best Yoga? I know Mediation is the most important exercise there is, but what is the difference between Meditation and Eastern Yoga?

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 20:43:40 »

Greetings all.

I would suggest you stay with the yoga class if it is making you feel good about yourself and you feel it is productive to you. I would also suggest you research other Yoga practices on your own to fine the style that is best suited to you. I agree with Adrian as Kriya Yoga being amongst the original Yoga styles.
I prefer Raja Yoga and have practiced it for many years now, but also incorporate other styles into my life.
I do meditation Yoga and prefer it, but learned these things long before it was segmented here in the US. Adrian is quite correct, Yoga has become a form of exercise, fine, but it does not allow you the vast education the older schools taught.
Raja states clearly that the physical aspects of Yoga are very beneficial, but one can still achieve the goals by the mental practices alone.
Meditation has wrongly become in Yoga classes a ' cool down ' practice after a class is over, and this devalues the art of meditation greatly. Yoga is the goal of Yoga, oneness with divine essence. It was also known as a science of mind and body in its creation.
TO escape the trappings of modern Yoga teachers, one must seek the knowledge for themselves, as I did. Books will serve you better than the internet in this case I feel.
The farther back you travel in time for the information the less likely you will be to be steared wrong, or waste time with diluted knowledge.
The East began to meet the West in an impactful manner in the late eighteen hundreds and the early nineteen hundreds, so much interesting and beautiful writings from unjaded Masters can be found in that period of time.

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 03:11:44 »

Hello Wavepsychic,

Hello Adrian, now you just opened up a whole bunch of questions in me!

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The Yoga as practiced in the west is little more than an alternative to aerobics, gymn etc.

I believe Kriya Yoga is also the most ancient and possibly original form of Yoga.

It would be wrong to suggest that one form of Yoga is better than another because everyone has their own needs and aspirations, but from what you say I would think that Kriya Yoga would be very appropriate for you.

I pay 14 dollars every week to go to Yoga Class. I thought it was helping me to open up my chakras. In any case I need something to keep my body in healthy. My Yoga Instructor says the yoga she teaches is the BEST. I agree that it gives the most muscle pains & is very well thought out. However are you saying that a Mediation Yoga is the best Yoga? I know Mediation is the most important exercise there is, but what is the difference between Meditation and Eastern Yoga?

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Yes Darell is absolutely correct.

As I mentioned in another topic, we should not be caught up in labels - if you enjoy what you are doing and you feel it is beneficial then continue to do it.

True Yoga takes in to account body, Mind and Spirit whereas western Yoga focusses on the body - as a form of exercise.  It would only help to open the Chakras if there were specific Energy exercises - not physical - as with Tai Chi for example.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.


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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 17:19:17 »

Thank you so much Adrian & Darrell for your time.

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I would suggest you stay with the yoga class if it is making you feel good about yourself and you feel it is productive to you. I would also suggest you research other Yoga practices on your own to fine the style that is best suited to you. I agree with Adrian as Kriya Yoga being amongst the original Yoga styles.
I prefer Raja Yoga and have practiced it for many years now, but also incorporate other styles into my life.

Thank you Darrell. I am going to keep doing Yoga mostly for my Root Chakra & to keep my body healthy for the energy flow. Physical Yoga can also help remove toxins from the body I heard. I FEEL the best about Raja Yoga, it to me seems like it would be best for feeling the Creator. I'll do Raja for my 7th Chakra which I believe is probably one of the top 3 most important chakras.

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True Yoga takes in to account body, Mind and Spirit whereas western Yoga focusses on the body - as a form of exercise.  It would only help to open the Chakras if there were specific Energy exercises - not physical - as with Tai Chi for example.

I learned a basic Tai Chi Form from a DVD, however my Tai Chi is pretty sloppy. There just isn't anywhere around here to learn. Tai Chi is much more rare the Yoga. I really wish to get better at Tai Chi since I am a Taoist, its only befitting.

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2008, 18:02:05 »

Hello Wavepsychic,

I learned a basic Tai Chi Form from a DVD, however my Tai Chi is pretty sloppy. There just isn't anywhere around here to learn. Tai Chi is much more rare the Yoga. I really wish to get better at Tai Chi since I am a Taoist, its only befitting.

Yes Tai Chi seems to be a very worthwhile exercise, and practiced upon arising by millions in the far east.  Any exercise designed to interact with and direct Energy is well worth doing.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 23:27:21 »

Greetings All ~

Tai Chi is a beautiful moving meditation.
Once you have trained yourself in the basic movements, relax with it and just close your eyes and feel it. Your a Taoist so deep feeling and intuitive knowledge is your natural state. As you relax with this exercise, you will intuitively know how to move and your fluidity will increase rapidly.
I often use a mantra while doing Tai Chi, and focusing  on breath will relax you immensely. Another great benefit to Tai Chi is the massaging of your internal organs during the motion.

All these practices discussed here are inter-related and one in the same, just different variations of the same states. It returns us to a re-remembrance of our state of bliss when we lived in one with natures cycles and energy's. We rose with the sun, ate when hungry, and slept when tired. Our bodies moved in what we call now Tai Chi naturally in the rising morning.
The beauty of them once we begin them is the mind and body re-member to them and take them to heart and Soul. Meditation is welcomed by the mind, and carried through our body's deep mind and begins unlocking the our memories of Self and our original design.
All Yoga, meditation, Tai Chi and other arts are tools, we are created with all this knowledge within us, these are but keys for the closed doors within us.

As Adrian so aptly pointed out, the labels can pigeon hole us into becoming the definition of the practice, someone else's idea  our objectives and goals. Trust your feelings while doing all these practices.
Let your body show you the motion, your mind find the sleeping knowledge, and your spirit will flow as your energy was designed.
This is Yoga ~

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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2008, 04:15:59 »

Thank you for the Reply Adrian and to Wave for the link. Much Appreciated input.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2008, 00:31:49 »

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Once you have trained yourself in the basic movements, relax with it and just close your eyes and feel it. Your a Taoist so deep feeling and intuitive knowledge is your natural state. As you relax with this exercise, you will intuitively know how to move and your fluidity will increase rapidly.

As Adrian so aptly pointed out, the labels can pigeon hole us into becoming the definition of the practice, someone else's idea  our objectives and goals. Trust your feelings while doing all these practices.
Let your body show you the motion, your mind find the sleeping knowledge, and your spirit will flow as your energy was designed.
This is Yoga

Thank you Darrell, I completely forgot to FEEL Tai Chi, always worried about if I'm doing the movements right, or what others would see if I did it in front of them. I'll have to give Tia Chi another go around. Thanks for you Wise Advice.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 03:06:35 »

Hello Wavepsychic,

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Once you have trained yourself in the basic movements, relax with it and just close your eyes and feel it. Your a Taoist so deep feeling and intuitive knowledge is your natural state. As you relax with this exercise, you will intuitively know how to move and your fluidity will increase rapidly.

As Adrian so aptly pointed out, the labels can pigeon hole us into becoming the definition of the practice, someone else's idea  our objectives and goals. Trust your feelings while doing all these practices.
Let your body show you the motion, your mind find the sleeping knowledge, and your spirit will flow as your energy was designed.
This is Yoga

Thank you Darrell, I completely forgot to FEEL Tai Chi, always worried about if I'm doing the movements right, or what others would see if I did it in front of them. I'll have to give Tia Chi another go around. Thanks for you Wise Advice.

It is absolutely crucial to feel Tai Chi as with any Energy of Metaphysical exercise, otherwise it becomes what Yoga has become in the west.

You cannot influence and evolve within by purely physical means.

In Love and Light,

Adrian.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 17:13:00 »

Adrian you have been taking a lot of time recently to reply to me & of course others. I want to say thank you because your replies mean a lot to me.

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In that case do you mean to tell us that if we use our own consciousness to feel a current of energy (Vibration, warmth, feeling chakra's) moving through our body even while we do every day things, it is of more benefit then exercising?
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