Kids - asking input please.

[zensunni7]

Hi all,
Seems strange sharing this forum directly with Adam ( join dude ) but I know he appreciates and takes to heart the words here.
It was stated that I am the source of Adams fear. Interesting. I thought about it, pondered it, and rejected the notion. Perhaps I am not seeing clearly, it happens with our kids, we tend to protect them out of instinct. Yet I would be interested in seeing if I am being blinded somehow.

Yes Adam lives in fear, we all do at one depth or another, say it ain't so, I would have to say your living in denial. Some days it is a tapping reminder to stay aware, other days it can hit you like a bat.
Openly in life, I trust Adam and trust that he will achieve the mornings when only joy wakes him, he has plotted a course and stays it, to spite the impatience sometimes of youth. If I did nto trust in him and spirit's strength, I would be advising him to ' find a real job ' not following his passion.
What say ye Adam, do I create your fear?

WithIn Love
Adam

[juliainkc]

Hearing an echo ...

Defining your own idea (True Image bouncing off aka reflection) of God ...

How do you want IT delivered?..

A whisper... ~

A tap ...

Or a Rap!! Psst...!!!! Pay attention! Damn IT!!  This being said with humor and smiling in innocence...

On my way passing through...

[Mina-Laura]

I am sorry Darrell

I cannot accept what you said here

What say ye Adam, do I create your fear?

It is called reverse psychology and I will have no part of it because I know it to well. It was part of my whole childhood. It felt to me as I'm against the wall, imprisoned in what I knew it as being love.

What is a 'real job'??

The young in his impatience is simply finding the true song of his soul. I have no doubts he will find his song. I am not telling him to quit his job, I am not telling him to rebel against you. I am only telling him to find his own voice. Why hasn't Adam made his own account? Is this even his world?
However, the passion with which you replied here Darrell tells me this is really not about Adam, isn't it?  

anyway my apologies for ruffling feathers - do it with love tho...

I love you all - Laura

[zensunni7]

Well thank you all again for the helpful comments. And to Laura, the fear comes from now not knowing where the fire for my passion has gone. In my whole life nothing has come close to the feeling i get from performing in front of people. As for being afraid of independence and responsibility, I'm not and never  have been. As my father can tell you, independence is my forte. I have worked since i was 15 for what i wanted and never stopped. Ive worked two jobs for almost 4 years since i graduated high school to live on my own. I love the idea of being on my own and becoming successful through my passions.

Its mostly that my fire for the music i love has seemingly died and i cant figure out how to revive it. I feel like if i lose that then i lose everything as I've built my idea of being successful in life as doing what you love with those you love. Ive strayed from long relationships for fear of losing my way in my career path. Ive built so much pressure onto the moment I'm at in life that I'm living in it as it passes me by. Maybe its time to drop what I'm doing and grab the opportunity at hand without fear of result!

[zensunni7]

Hi Laura

Asking a man to speak for himself is reverse psychology? That was your childhood, not mine or Adams.
" find a real job " is a clique from the seventies, dates me is all. I know youthful impatience is him trying to find their own spirit and Soul, its why I told all my kids at this age '' relax, don't take it too seriously - your figuring out what you don't want in your life right now.''
Actually it is about Adam here.
If I have fears of my own, I have no trouble relating them and asking for guidance - its all in here somewhere.
As his father I have naturally passed on some of my fears to him, and his to me, talking with him sorts them out. But unless your psychic abilities are extraordinary it was very presumptuous of you to say I was causing his fears.
Passion is a good thing, in all things.

No ruffled feathers here.

WithIN Love
Darrell

[Mina-Laura]

Hello Adam

The passion for your love at the time (music) has gone because the motivation that made it possible at that time no longer has a hold on you. It simply doesn't move you anymore. You are the only one who knows what moved you before or what was important to impress.

If your passion for music is true and real than you must work at it 'just for the sake of it'. Find the true passion, reinvent yourself.

...sigh.. just an example, take those Hollywood people and even most musicians it seems the passion in their work gets a boost with the ease they change partners, by falling in love over and over again.

But some, legendary ones they did it 'just for the sake of it'.

I wouldn't worry about relationships - a girl that truly loves you will stay, especially that you seem to be such a beautiful you. I don't blame Darrell for being so protective  

In my whole life nothing has come close to the feeling i get from performing in front of people.

I was told the same thing by my daughter Alex a year ago.

love - Laura

[Mina-Laura]

I know youthful impatience is him trying to find their own spirit and Soul, its why I told all my kids at this age '' relax, don't take it too seriously - your figuring out what you don't want in your life right now.''

Hello Darrell

For a child, and especially for a teen everything is very serious. Or, of utmost importance. Even if to us might be something trivial for them is not. Telling someone to not take it seriously will result just in that. You attract what you project.

But unless your psychic abilities are extraordinary it was very presumptuous of you to say I was causing his fears.

I never said you are causing his fears, I only said is coming from you. Young people have to tendency to overamplify what comes from those whom they trust and love. I don't know about my psychic capabilities, I guess I have to be more diligent at working at them I know however a lot about human psychology.

Asking a man to speak for himself is reverse psychology?

No it is not the way you put it here. However what you did before you were asking Adam to speak 'for' you. How can he not?

love - Laura

[zensunni7]

Hi Laura,

If  you want to pursue this with Adam - then please do.
As for me, this is not what this thread was intended for, nor does it require my participation any longer. My parenting skills are not perfect, yet I see no reason to debate them with you. He is my son, I sought some advice here, and it prompted him to speak for himself, and he reached out.
I appreciate advice, yet do not require your analysis, but thank you anyway.

WithIn Love
Darrell

[Mina-Laura]

Hi Laura,

If  you want to pursue this with Adam - then please do.
As for me, this is not what this thread was intended for, nor does it require my participation any longer. My parenting skills are not perfect, yet I see no reason to debate them with you. He is my son, I sought some advice here, and it prompted him to speak for himself, and he reached out.
I appreciate advice, yet do not require your analysis, but thank you anyway.

WithIn Love
Darrell

Hello Darrell

I am sorry to have stirred such conflicting feelings Darrell. It was not my intention to analyse and if I have given this impression I apologise.
However this thread helped me very much, with more insights into my own parenting skills. Your son can potentially be my daughter in 7 years and it made think about things that if not for your topic and your debate it would have never occurred to me to think. So, for this alone I am grateful, and I thank you. As for Adam, of course if he needs some mothering I will always be here.

Oh, I just remember about this book, I never really had time to get it tough. http://www.thepassiontest.com/TPT/Home/index.cfm

Blessings Darrell and Adam

love - Laura

[Freedom]

Please, all my darlings , dont get conflicted.
I have the same problem as Adam.
Well, not the same, exactly.

The thing is, I dont have an exact passion of what i want to do.

But ... we are human "beings", not human "doings'.

Hmm, sigh, we keep trying to do when we should just be. that is all we need to do.
Please Darrell, dont think you own your son. Everyone is trying to help, they are not bossing.

Somehow , we just have to get in touch with our higher self and remember our own path. Re-member. That is the thing.  Remember who we are.

www.mindpowernews.com/PerfectLife.htm

Will this site help? I dont know if it is one of Adrians? but it is helpful. I really think it will help.

[zensunni7]

Hello Everyone,

I re-read the whole thread, I do not see any place or combination of thoughts and words that implied I feel I ' own ' my son, or any other of my children, other than Laura's introduction of the idea.
I know my children and they know me, and we do not have co-dependent relationships. Adam moved in to save money and regroup so he could go to school and rediscover his passions, which he is.

Darrell

[Freedom]

Hello Darrell,
i must have given the wrong impression...whoops..

You only looked at one part of my post..
The rest could be helpful, if u look again.

I probably identify more with the son than the father. ... I suppose ..

I just want them to spread their wings and fly... do their own thing.

we are all souls. 

I love Laura, and we all love her and you.  We are all one.

Love and blessings.  Adam will be fine and learn life on his own terms.

We are not perfect , but we are beautiful, YES!  Trust your son. Trust him. 

[zensunni7]

Hi Freedom,

I read the whole post, I love Laura too, you and all here.

If you knew my family and its history, trust was our Credo, it is all we had some points. They have all flown away, and when we need each other, no phone calls are needed, were just there.
Family is the Sacred territory that we walk in.
So that being - I am not conflicted, the record just seems to be scratched and stuck here, so time for a new tune.

I went to the site you suggested - thank you.

WithIn Love
Darrell

[Mina-Laura]

Hello Darrell,
i must have given the wrong impression...whoops..

You only looked at one part of my post..
The rest could be helpful, if u look again.

I probably identify more with the son than the father. ... I suppose ..

I just want them to spread their wings and fly... do their own thing.

we are all souls. 

I love Laura, and we all love her and you.  We are all one.

Love and blessings.  Adam will be fine and learn life on his own terms.

We are not perfect , but we are beautiful, YES!  Trust your son. Trust him. 

Hi Freedom

Thank you for your participation and above all thank you for being a part of the infinite sea of Love.

I am glad you found your wings. Is very difficult for a parent to let the child fly, is this extra care that you 'must' do everything to make that flight a successful one. But there is a things as loving to much, and wanting to see this love only in the good side of the life. How can that be? Isn't God everywhere?
Perhaps I 'interfered' as Darrell feels, if I did it was only out of my careful compassion and life experience of with clinical depression. In my Universe there's no need for anyone to be unhappy. There's always a different option! There's always a better way. This is the beauty of Divine creation.

As hard as it is, as far as I'm concerned is time to let Darrell alone in this, respect his request, and trust in his decision of taking full responsability in his best judgement. The best we can do is just being here, always loving, accepting, non-judgemental, and with open arms.

"When there's a will a way will be found."

I like the site you sent, is from Enoch. I find it highly inspirational and the truth of it pierces at your core.

"The reason why we experience disappointment and unhappiness is because we are on another path instead of our true one. Even when we are on our true path, it does not mean we will remain in it all the time. We tend to get on and off our path from time to time. The purpose of growing is to become more developed in our consciousness and being so that we can find and remain on our true path more and more of the time. Every time we are off it, life feels bad but every time we’re on it, life feels good again."



I love you all!!! - Laura

[Talker]

As much as others would like to help me, the truth is that everybody experiences a different set of emotions related to same events, and everybody has no idea what everyone else's emotion amplitude and character is.

love - Laura

Greetings to All,

Laura, you pointed out a salient point. Advice from others is based on how they see the issues. I did a post based on real life experiences about all truth, as I had found it to be.

http://thetalker.org/archives/129/2-truth-is-like-a-rubber-band/

Adam, I 'feeling toned' that you've not yet anchored that which you desire, to that which is to be your future. Your dad, will, I believe, know what I'm saying here. Some will point out it is all 'now', yet there is such a thing as crystallizing basic upcoming future.
Be Well