Kids - asking input please.

[zensunni7]

My 22 yr old son moved in with me recently - He is attending school and wanted to save up a little money and to learn Energy work. We are progressing, yet he is stuck in a place all my ideas and resources cannot aid him in.
He told me this morning, as he has told for awhile now -
" When I wake up I have this feeling, like a tightening in my solar plexus, fear, and it is there every morning, to the point it nauseates me even. Like a darkness that comes wit the morning and I hate it. "
That's the gist of it, same scenario in the dialogue,as with his mornings. I have run the gambit of what I taught others in meditation classes, LOA, and the use of Mantras while falling asleep and awakening. I also am aware that in my youth I experienced this as well, it is his own mind, and receiving energy from the fear on the planet now without filtering its toxicity.
He is not unusual in this though, I see and talk to many young men his age through him and his brothers that feel this daily.
Many like my son are going to school, working, and trying to learn to rise to the challenges that face them, as we all are here to an extent also. I just can't seem to aid him past this.
Perhaps I am too close to him and the situation.
I am asking for any input your graciousness may offer me. He reads on here so I will suggest he see what others have to say.
Love to all of you,

WithIn Love
Darrell

[juliainkc]

Good Day Darrell and All ~

I appreciate you my Brother as you well know for your genuine Heart expressing here. Ahh! Our children are so close to us that sometimes they miss us!! They only see us as our titles and roles.

What comes through here expressing to you in kind is using a thought to focus on whether one believes it or not in the moment. I do not meant fake it. I mean shifting our mind simply by planting a seed.


I am sure you have shared this him. I have a very analytical mind when I allow it to run. I can remember nights when I could not sleep due to all the running around in circles in my mind in regards to 'problems' real to me in current circumstance and imagined as to outcome and becoming more and more entangled in fear. And yes, the waking up with that dread feeling in my solar plexus. Heavy and stealing my breath.

I wish I could wave a magic wand here and say it is easy to transform fear into Love and then experiencing the peace of this Love however, we know well it is a process of shifting until it becomes One with us. Once one does experience this Oneness with Supreme Source of Love and Origin, from here it is much easier to live from this Presence. Exercising the muscle, growing stronger through each cycle or layer being peeled back until one reaches Center.

My daughter Sara and I were just discussing this the other evening how, no matter how much we share the benefits of our experience for another's benefit, one must go through their own Divine Agreement of life experiences to realize what we share by knowing here Now. Sara is coming to this realization herself in her relationship with her daughter Kiara. I noticed that Sara has grown into herself through this very process because there was a time when she was like Kiara, she sees it alot differently now.

Does he place thoughts to shift his attention around him on 3X5 cards? Like in the car or on his nightstand, bathroom mirror or in his pocket? While it sounds hokey, it really is amazing that if one practices whether or not they truly understand in the moment, it will shift ones mind.

I'm speaking of simple thoughts like, "I want the Peace of God." May not mean much at first, however I have found this really works in daily practicing or learning a new language. Or "I surrender this day to my Higher Self's Leading." Ending with gratitude for the blessings. And I had to ask to be shown what were the blessings at one point as I truly could not feel or see any.

Surrender is not submission. Two totally different attitudes. One is based on One's Power to choose by releasing the other usually gives one the feeling of having their head pushed down. Again, symbols of symbols.

Perhaps just reading that we are agreeing with you will assist him in realizing that "yeah, dad does know what he's talking about. Thanks dad, my respect just grew that much more for your Love you've shown to me and I am seeing that you only desired to share this Love that you are and know with me."

Just communing with you here my Beloved Brother. My Heart is with you and your Beloved Son. He really is where he is to be in this moment and sometimes it is difficult to watch these youngers going through it because we know otherwise Now.

I passed these prayers or affirmations onto to others through the years and placed them on my blog to be released Universally. If one would take one part and look at it over and over until it becomes familiar, it is amazing the transformation that takes place. I share this gift with you and all others in Love.

I have taken it in bite size pieces. Such as, "I am Eternal, Child of God." And so on until the thought would just keep rising up in circumstances. Really was a big help for myself and others in my life.

Just sharing what flowed through...

I love you Darrell and All in Divine Spirit,

Julia


http://www.you-nique-by-design.com/the-story-behind-the-sacred-prayers/

[Talker]

Hello Darrell,

I suggest that your son use this for starters .

Standing or flat on back.

Middle finger of one hand in belly button,

Middle finger of other hand at middle eye Chakra location,

At those two hand positions, appply light inward presure
and a slight upward pull.

Hold for a few minutes.

No special thoughts need be used.

Deep inhalations and exhalations.

Just be relaxed and let the connections do their job.
More can be said, but for now will let it rest.
Process can be used / should be used every day.

Be Well

[HareOm]

its as simple as drinking enough water before bed and in the morning

i am just now 23, and have had that problem every single night for months

water heals the solar plexus in particular, its about hydration and water purging is a great method of healing energy since we are electrical in nature.

[Talker]

Hello HareOm, Darrell,Julia and All,

Water is a key factor and much overlooked as a source of ones health issues. Wont go into detail regards water for now. I note that Darrell and HareOm, both indicate an ongoing problem with the issue involved. Much or all is 'stress' based. The energy meridians need to be corrected for any lasting effects. This is not a 'do once thing', as stress arrives almost as a constant. Water will alleviate, yet if the energy system is messed up, the 'corrections by water alone will not last long. There are many other techniques to balance energy, but what I had mentioned is a good beginning, and does indeed work.
Be Well

[Mina-Laura]

He is attending school and wanted to save up a little money and to learn Energy work. We are progressing, yet he is stuck in a place all my ideas and resources cannot aid him in.
He told me this morning, as he has told for awhile now -
" When I wake up I have this feeling, like a tightening in my solar plexus, fear, and it is there every morning, to the point it nauseates me even. Like a darkness that comes wit the morning and I hate it. "

Hi Darrell

If he was my kid I would first take him to a doctor a good one and just have a general check. (Of course if he is open to the idea). I would also mention 'sleep apnea'... How does he sleep? what is his position? The way you describe it sounds like 'the claw of death' how is called in popular lore, or sudden pause in breathing and hearth beat during sleep. They have good labs to test that here in Toronto. I would also ask for an ECG and about everything it may be recommended.

This may go against your holistic approach, but I can assure you is of great benefit to your son's mind. Of course I would treat (inside myself) all these health visits as ending up with good results: as in nothing will come up wrong with your son.
I would even say repeatedly to him. I am sure all tests will be fine, but let's just reassure it is so, and well something along these lines.

My 'oracle' mind is telling me he is not ready yet, something inside him is troubling (afraid to face the day, by the way is this darkness upon him only when he wakes up or is it all throughout the day? have you tried to 'observe' him to see his mood through the day? does he have zest, enthusiasm for life for what is he about to do?), something inside him stops his energy to progress on the path that you said he is embarking.
With a lot of patience and tact you have to find out what. Or at least give him the opportunity to let it out. ... if you could get him to 'open' to someone anyone he can get 'close', you know, just talk... just get it out. After that it flows...

I have also observed that 'confusion' and blockage of life energy happens in a lot of kids. My teen daughter was also affected big time...
At personal lever I felt it big time starting in the month of August and culminating in September - I got better as I have invested myself more and more in inner divine work and strength. My daughter also got better. The 'magic' moment was when I we sat down and talked and I listened to everything she had to say and took it with a lot of love and never blinked an eye when she blurted that she feels that I am imposing my spirituality on her, and she just doesn't believe...
I told her that it doesn't matter what she does or doesn't do in life for I love her just the same and my only desire for her was that she lives a happy life. And now, tings could not be better. Oh I am faithful though in my sound meditation, and I dispel any other thoughts of distrust as soon as they creep in.
As I get better, she get's better.


And like Adrian said, have Faith and believe he is well. I have no doubts.

love - Laura

[zensunni7]

Greetings Everyone,
Let me say - thank you all for this wonderful input and perspective. Reach out to great minds and Hearts, and you get great results.
Talker - would you have anything on your blog that comes to mind for him to investigate?

Observing says that he feels this way in the mornings, yet we all know how e-motions can set the tome of the day unless we take steps to change it. He is during the day for the most part a very energetic, creative individual. He is majoring in broadcast communications, writes, performs, records his own music. He also on top of working has an apprenticeship at a radio station at present, so he is quite busy. Yes, stress is the source I have sensed in on as well. Money is of great concern to him, so we have been working on LOA recently and he is open to such things.
We communicate well, and have all along. I know his fears, and he knows mine.
I am confident in his physical wellness, we work out together, he eats well, better and more wisely than most his age, and we have had long talks about nutrition and behaviors. My kids are well educated in herbs and foods. He is a high energy person with talent and a natural charisma that if I had I would be alot more lucrative in my life.
He does not go to doctors unless he feels it really the last alternative, and he is twenty and I let him make his own choices.
As Laura said, our kids will follow their own hearts as far as spiritual education and interest, all we can do wait for them to come and ask, as he did with me. Most of my children have and some take the advice, some do not - right away. But as life has become more intense, they are asking more and more.
Julia brought up many great heart centered points, I am ' Dad ' and they will take others words more readily, nothing personal, its just the way of young Human Beings. He is a prototype I feel of what many of us will be dealing with soon in our young people.
I will continue to reach out here and know I cannot do this alone. I love you all for this return hand stretched to me.
I agree about the water, I do not see him drinking it as often as I do, generally when he is working out. Spirituality is a tricky thing to teach these young ones, so full of life, energy in such a fast paced culture. I began meditating in my early twenties, always wishing that sitting still did not have to be a part of this.
In my classes I created new language to explain ancient ideas and principles. Using computer terminology for the western minds to grasp, and it worked well. I learned to train on the fly and to discipline myself in motion, so I think this may be the ticket for these young Humans.Until they stand still !
I thank you all again from my hearts depths for the friendship and wisdom here.

WithIN Love
Darrell

[juliainkc]

Good Evening All ~  

Wow!! Such interesting and varied responses here. I love it!!

Darrell, if your son should read this post, then he will have a wonderful blessing and opportunity to sense what speaks to him in this moment.

I'm sure he will definitely see the Love being shared here for you as well as himself by all of us. Divinely Inspired by All of One.

I've also realized that Being patient with oneself is a biggy. Another way of uncovering the layers of Authentic Self by practicing Being in the moment of Now. Accepting where one is in this moment. Being aware by focusing on what one's thoughts are in this moment and whether or not it is bringing them anxiety or peacefulness and by asking oneself is this thought based on something occuring even five minutes or an hour ago, as in where am I? There, here or out there. In this Present moment while Being here now and taking 'time out' in reading this thread and noticing that this 'situation' is on hold or not in this very moment unless we keep bringing our previous thoughts along with us and adding more until we realize that we keep 'missing' the Now moment by reaching forward to fix it by wanting it to be otherwise as in hoping for it to be otherwise than what it is. Getting caught up in the loop or mind swims.

For what it's worth, something Byron Katie said and it so gave me a wonderful pause in consideration is:

"Who would I be without my story?" I would be the real me, without any of the titles, roles and props, the Authentic me or I Am Presence...no matter what the outcome.

Just sharing out loud what was streaming through, and as you know so well, take what speaks to you Darrell and Beloved Son and leave the rest.

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[zensunni7]

Good Morning Julia and All here,

Thank you for the love from all that have answered.
Yes, Julia, patience. Not the forte of youth is it? But he is working at it. Adam is his name by the way. He returned from work last night in a much better mood, but this morning will tell. He just has to do what all here have done, and that is to get tired enough of feeling it and move on with ridding himself of those feelings. It is not a physical thing I am sure of this.

Our children are important to us all, for all people are children of Source, and we on this forum are more aware of this than most.Every person is a son and daughter of someone and deserve the loving respect of us all.
We are entering the Golden Age as Adrian said this morning in his newsletter, some of us have already entered into it, even born into it. I still visualize all my children daily happy, abundant in love and joy, and I do not ever doubt it is as real as being in their physical presence.
The projection thread here does not discuss theory or future possibility - it discusses a reality within the perceived reality that has been the status quo of illusion.

I trust that Adam and all my children will find their way as we did, they have guides we did not, more so than ever openly present in history.

WithIn Love
Darrell

[Talker]

Hello Darrell and All,
Ah yes, kids, and the myriad complexities of each jewel. Similarities are there, but in no way are 'any two kids' alike, regardless of age. Same applies to any adult, we are, pure and simply stated, Unique Souls inhabiting a body to glean and winnow through various experiences that man creates. The seeking for that special set of keys and puzzle parts required for each unique soul, will and does take many strange and odd twists.
Now for the subject at hand.
Julia and Laura offer sound and solid suggestions and advice, as are your own efforts. What I or any other offer, toward a solution, is all trial and error, and even applies to the professional world that desire to correct the incorrect in our lives. What one eats, drinks, inhales, and that 900 pound gorilla, STRESS, will manifest in humorous, serious, odd, or strange behavior. So what is normal!
Ask a hundred people, and you will get a hundred different answers. Yes, there are basic normals that apply to all, but now we enter the area of our uniqueness, the schism within us, of 'soul, spirit and body'. What happens in one part of that combination, happens to some degree, to the other parts. Gads, I'm off on a tangent here so will clip it down to prevent an overload to the forums database. STRESS. Nail down and learn to cope with stress on a daily basis, for harmony of  'soul, spirit and body' and that's the nub of it. Ones aura and the chakras are affected by stress. Ones meridians are affected by stress. The liver is working overtime to cope with stress. The recently discovered EFT is one way to control the 'effects' of stress, as is meditation. Acupressure is another process that works. As I am now aware though, far to many think that 'once in awhile efforts' are sufficient. Sorry, that don't cut it. Qigong, Huna, the martial arts, all have valuable contributions to cope with stress. Not many are aware that a slammed door, loud startling sound, the presence of certain people, or a passing thought can AND DOES flip on the liver activity causing remarkable sensations to be experienced. Sheesh, will close for now.
Be Well

http://thetalker.org/archives/81/79-stressdepression-rewires-the-brain/

http://thetalker.org/archives/43/41-health-and-emotional-factors/

http://thetalker.org/archives/130/3-simple-body-no-way/

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http://thetalker.org/archives/228/19-the-pit-in-the-cherry-and-the-guitar/

http://thetalker.org/archives/182/9-negative-ambiance-thinking/

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http://thetalker.org/archives/379/25-talkers-thoughts-about-hugs/

[zensunni7]

Hello Talker,

Thank you for that lengthy and wisdom filled response. You never ramble my friend, the more you write, the more we learn from you. Yes, Julia and Laura did provide excellent information and heart wisdom to me. They always do, like yourself.
Yes, each child / Human Being is totally unique, yet our bodies to have a commonality of responses to outside stimulus and stress. Yet in this age we have so many tools readily available to us at the touch of a button. No-more climbing up the mountain side to see the Guru at the top.
They have come down form the mountain, and lucky for us I feel.
I know my children will fair well, they were trained by observation, and will reach to themselves soon enough. It does not matter if they reach out to me, or to those on this forum, or to anyone that will aid their journey. We here can recount the many people that passed into our lives, taught us and then out again. It is the way of it, if we do not seek to hold them.
I always told my children in word and example '' you do not belong to me - you belong to God and  yourselves. " and then followed it with example by letting them make choices and not clinging to them when they chose to leave the nest.
I thank you Talker for the blog references, I shall read them myself after I am done here. Then when Adam returns from work, I am going to open this thread and tell him " Read - this is what happens when you reach out to the world."

Thank you everyone.

WithIN Love
Darrell

[Mina-Laura]

Hello Darrell

And if Adam read this I hope your day was just peachy  .

One of the most amazing things that happened when I needed help was the eagerness with which people jumped to the occasion to help me. Everything that come from them helped me tremendously.
Yet, the real progress was made when I took responsibility for my own healing. And that happened when I understood that I'm the best person that knows what's going on with me (inside me) and healing will come from inside me and not from anyone outside.

As much as others would like to help me, the truth is that everybody experiences a different set of emotions related to same events, and everybody has no idea what everyone else's emotion amplitude and character is.

Another thing that helped me tremendously was when I was ready to accept everybody as they are, and the fact that
while I'm responsible to work incessantly at myself I cannot change others nor I should attempt to do it less for telling the truth to myself first then perhaps to them observing how open they are to hear me...but in the end I have to accept and love them exactly as they are.

The day when I was able to 'see' this, I was free. Good luck Adam, I hope you find the light in your unresolved feelings. !!:)  Find that rock inside you, and know that you are under divine protection in there and nothing can touch you.

love - Laura

[zensunni7]

Hello everybody. I am Darrells son Adam. I thank everyone who gave input on my situation. It is very comforting to know there are people who just want to help others.
 I go through those feelings mostly though out the day but predominately its in the morning. I feel like there is no good reason to leave the comfort of my bed when i know i have a job i despise awaiting me in my day. I love going to school and the internship i have because i get to do what i love. But the process of making money at other jobs while I'm there is killing me. I have a horrible feeling daily about going there, but i have the same feeling when i think of quitting and my bills going unpaid.
Ultimately it boils down to I need to make money doing what i love. ANYTHING involving music. With all that is happening in the world as well, i feel all the advice of,"just stick it out, eventually it will come," and comments such as those are quite frankly bullshit. Why in the hell should anybody live a minute despising what there doing. Even in writing this now i feel like quitting, getting in my car, driving downtown and setting up just singing on the street downtown with a hat for change. It would be ten times better than going somewhere you don't want to be in life.
But THE FEAR.. Will i make any money? How will i pay my bills if i don't? What can and will i do?

When in my strongest state of mind, i know i have every ability to be successful with making music.
How do i get away from what i hate and into what i love?

[juliainkc]

Hello and Welcome Adam ~

I am pleased to see you responding here! My goodness you look just like your dad!!

How do i get away from what i hate and into what i love?

As the Nike commercial says, 'Just Do It.'

The only thing holding you back is that you are allowing fear to be stronger over the Love in you. The: but what ifs.

It's like the first high diving board experience. Don't think about it just Jump Adam!!

Personally and Darrell I say this knowing you may kick my butt later but no matter, you've taught me how to kick yours back!!

Play this game with yourself. Go on downtown and try playing music whether people throw something in your hat or not. Just feel it and dare yourself to be yourself.

Just sharing out loud. Your dad and the rest of us have a sense of humor and will plead the fifth when you say you could have sworn someone or something bumped you from behind. It's called 'Hey Adam! you're holding up the line!!"

When you allow yourself to be your True Self, others who may be watching you will feel Empowered to be their True Self. It's funny how things 'work' this way. And you would smile and say while living your passion, 'why there's no work to it!!'

Sending Loving thoughts your way today Adam,

Take a deep breath, and plunge,

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Hello everybody. I am Darrells son Adam. I thank everyone who gave input on my situation. It is very comforting to know there are people who just want to help others.
 I go through those feelings mostly though out the day but predominately its in the morning. I feel like there is no good reason to leave the comfort of my bed when i know i have a job i despise awaiting me in my day. I love going to school and the internship i have because i get to do what i love. But the process of making money at other jobs while I'm there is killing me. I have a horrible feeling daily about going there, but i have the same feeling when i think of quitting and my bills going unpaid.
Ultimately it boils down to I need to make money doing what i love. ANYTHING involving music. With all that is happening in the world as well, i feel all the advice of,"just stick it out, eventually it will come," and comments such as those are quite frankly bullshit. Why in the hell should anybody live a minute despising what there doing. Even in writing this now i feel like quitting, getting in my car, driving downtown and setting up just singing on the street downtown with a hat for change. It would be ten times better than going somewhere you don't want to be in life.
But THE FEAR.. Will i make any money? How will i pay my bills if i don't? What can and will i do?

When in my strongest state of mind, i know i have every ability to be successful with making music.
How do i get away from what i hate and into what i love?

Oh wow Adam.

I read this earlier when I was at work. I remember long time ago I was in the same situation. Hating to go to that work place. I had to stick with it for a while. It took a longer time for my life to improve. And other complicated stuff.
But see where I was when I was young we didn't really have any options. I was living in a socialits state. So, there was hardly any choice. Here in Canada and USA there are so many opportunities. You only need to ask the Universe for help, trust then open your eyes.

But please tell me where this fear of yours comes from?
Do you have family, children, to support?
What scares you most about being independent and taking responsibility?
Can't you afford to 'loose' some time in order to find your passion?
Can you embark on a program that helps you achieve your dream?
I am just asking questions because I know nothing of your circumstances but these are the kind of question you can ask yourself. Talk with your fear become friends, ask for help..as in "so, what's the worse that is going to happen?"

Music is used a lot in healing . Music is the language of spirit.

For sure there must be options where you can make a living with music while you keep building it up.
Teach kids perhaps?

I think if you believe enough in yourself the portal of opportunity will open.
But you are so young what's there to fear honestly?


I read this recently:
"Do what you love or love what you do."

If you can't change your attitude and love what you do, is useless. You will end up being sick.

By the same token Adam "things are exactly as they should be" meaning that inside you there is this battle between your dreams and your fear (between your ego and your higher self). Is all good because that is what you have to conquer to become a real man.

I am sure you will find your path Adam. Keep walking and look that fear in the eye. Make it your friend, and you will be the winner.

love - Laura