Influencing external forces

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If you encouter an external influence of a negative kind, do you couner-influence it by commanding the will of your ego to dissipate it (as per today's Developing Psychic Abilities newsletter), or do you do it with the power of God within you?

I believe it is wiser to invoke the wisdom and power of God that is part of you, rather than your will and ego.

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I choose to feel good and feel happy NOW! I am sorry,I love you,please forgive me,thank you.

[zensunni7]

I recall me ex being in my face - literally - and screaming at the top of her lungs, as was her her style. I also recall saying inwardly " God , help me here, or I am going to kill this woman. Really God, I can see her eyes  popping out as I choke her. Really God, this is serious."

I felt calm come over me, and I just opened my mouth, and words came out I did not author. " Leave, leave now " I heard myself say calmly, yet there was a power in them I could not explain, didn't want to - it was working.
With the same powerful energy I heard " Leave before this gets beyond my control, you have done this enough. I will not fight, I will not argue, I will not ever do this with you again. Do whatever you feel you have to, but I will not do this anymore.
You will not push my buttons, anger me, or make me feel this way ever again. So leave - now. "
Again there was myself standing there with my mouth moving, yet being only an observer. I could see the fury in her eyes, I had seen it many times in her eyes and other eyes growing up. I felt sorrow, great sorrow, and great sadness, yet no anger this time. No guilt, no shame, no humiliation, I only felt presence.

My lack of response made her so enraged she stormed out and took off the screen door. But I had never been able to not respond to the invitation before and never felt so calm and protected in my life either.
This is an extreme example of what you are discussing here, but it is the same too I think. I have not ever argued with her since, and she still to this day tries to say something to insight me.
Often when we do this, we run the risk of being door mats to people, but now when I say ' no ' I mean it, and refuse to engage in the dramatic emotions people are trying to draw me into. I - like so many others - felt being spiritual meant I had to endure anything anyone threw at me. I discovered in that moment what strength was and how powerful it can be.

WithIn Love

Darrell

[Cosima]

but now when I say ' no ' I mean it, and refuse to engage in the dramatic emotions people are trying to draw me into. I - like so many others - felt being spiritual meant I had to endure anything anyone threw at me. I discovered in that moment what strength was and how powerful it can be.

Hi Darrell,

I agree with all my heart! The few times I reacted like you described it, I felt wonderful after the first moments!
It is really the only way to deal with adverse people!

Best wishes,
Cosima
from Germany

[juliainkc]

Guten Tag Cosima, Good Morning Darrell,


I love visiting with others and having interesting conversations!! I always learn so much. Just sitting at the table here and joining the ongoing conversation.

Just sharing my thoughts on this subject. What I notice is that coming from an origin of Unconditional Love, it has negative and positive aspects. They are just indicators of measurement. Am I being loving or unloving. Both aspects of Love, just two different polarities or possibly extremes of the same meaning.

If I empty my well of toxic or undrinkable dead, stagnant water is that 'bad'? I believe it isn't. It is absolutely necessary to do this first. Then I can continue from having unplugged the blockage to allow the underground springs to flow in and clean it out and refill with it flowing, life giving, drinkable water. I have to keep and maintain the well from getting blocked. I release the negative aspects while allowing the positive aspects in at the same moment.

Living water, dead water (good or bad)? It's all water. It's just a matter of recognizing which is which and by understanding my emotions I can then determine what the response in my behavior will be by directing my heart into my thoughts.

With that, it's raining and I think I'll go play in some puddles.

Sending Love your way, In Joy the weekend,

Be Well,

Julia

[Adrian]

Hello Cosima Darrell, Julia et al,

but now when I say ' no ' I mean it, and refuse to engage in the dramatic emotions people are trying to draw me into. I - like so many others - felt being spiritual meant I had to endure anything anyone threw at me. I discovered in that moment what strength was and how powerful it can be.

Hi Darrell,

I agree with all my heart! The few times I reacted like you described it, I felt wonderful after the first moments!
It is really the only way to deal with adverse people!

Best wishes,
Cosima
from Germany

Yes this is absolutely fundamental.

When people are angry with us, often unjustified due to a lack of presence or control on their part, or other issues, and they behave violently and/or abusively, the worst thing to do is to reciprocate.

I remain totally calm at all times, and believe me that is far more powerful than giving the same back.

From time to time I receive emails from people, particularly very religious people who take exception to the subjects I write about and are very threatening and abusive. I always respond in a calm, rational way and that makes them worse.  Some have even said to me words to the effect "why aren't you getting mad with me" or "why don't you get worked up by what I am saying", and I say to them "what positive outcome could possibly result from that?"

Without seeming blunt - people can either agree or disagree with what I am saying, but I am certainly not going to argue about it or pursuade them otherwise.

Discuss it rationally yes - that is an entirely different matter.

As an aside I frequently get members of a certain faction of a well known religion sending me messages offering to "save me" or to "send me to damnation for all eternity if I do not accept Jesus as my saviour" -  I simply thank them for their concern and leave it at that.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[juliainkc]

Good Morning Adrian,

I truly appreciate you sharing this as well as Darrell and Cosima. I only wish to add to what is being shared here as I feel this is an area many including myself have been confused and condemned by.

I once, like Darrell and Cosima, thought that to be forgiving as in turning the other cheek meant that I was to stand there and allow anyone or anything to pound one into the ground, could do or say anything they wanted, and I just had to take it with the promise that I would bounce back up. You know, a vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord thing.

Well, evolving and progressing is interesting in that it tends to broaden this one's view by being presented with the opportunity sometimes over and over again to get down to the True meaning of Forgiveness which 'colors' my whole view by affecting my outward picture based on my Inner knowing.

My Peace came and continues to be maintained when I remain True to myself. It is in doing unto others as you would have others do to you, backwards it would be said do unto yourself as you would have others do unto you and reflect back in kind. In my own understanding of this statement, it has been by realizing that I must have honor for myself, self-respect and when I acknowledge this within myself I am expressing this to my outer picture because this is truly who I am.

I had the opportunity recently to learn yet again of this Truth. And finally, I felt the release as I acknowledged my 'accusers' an illusion of my false self and turned and said, "No more." It's not real, this isn't who I am." They responded by rejecting me and saying goodbye as in we'll not have anything else to do you. Was I crushed? Absolutely not. Thank God!! I felt a shifting inside and what I felt was a deep Peace. The whole atmosphere changed in my home once they left and I knew I had found what I so afraid to receive before. Another chapter closing in my 'life'. It feels wonderful and freeing. All is Well. Not really an ending, just another new cycle of beginning from Zero.

I just wanted to share this as I believe there may be others who confuse the meaning of True Forgiveness with not understanding the difference between condemnation and never having confrontation. Two totally different meanings.

I appreciate you all,

Many Loving Blessings, Be Well and In Joy this day WithIN Love,

Radiating Love and Light,

Julia

[zensunni7]

I walked away from my family of origin a long time ago, and took my children with me. It was a long hard choice to make with many nights of wondering and soul searching to follow. Forgiveness is a very healing experience I think, especially when done in person. Yet if the behaviors continue, there is no choice but to walk away and let things play out as they may. My mother died without us sitting face to face, yet when I received the news I felt she was finally in a place where we could talk without the drama and the ' issues ' that prevented us from doing so in life. I feel at peace with my choice and feel she can see it from a perspective she was unable to before she passed on.
I teach that forgiveness is treating a person as if they had never offended you, and more so, as if they had never done anything wrong in their lives. But as stated by other wise minds here, if you attempt to slap me, I will block it. Abusive people are truly abusive in accordance with the fear and pain they are lost within, but to allow them to abuse in the name of righteousness is just wrong. I can take the slap, and I can prevent it also. I am trained for this, but not to allow a person to continue on the path of pain filled fear. Accepting abuse is a statement that what they are doing is all right because of their mental condition, and it is not.
We are coming to the realization that this behavior is being played out on a global scale now. Abusive people are running the show at present, and it will take the same confrontation to stop it globally as it does with two individuals, a statement by the worlds majority that this must cease. Just as child abuse and molestation must stop. Forgiveness will occur when we realize fully that as response able parents and Human Being, we are delegated to this task if our professed beliefs of spiritual enlightenment are truth in our lives.
When we stand against the slap of someone wishing to do us harm we break through the e-motions that are there causing the conflicts. We find the space where forgiveness can be injected, or realize there is no space for it with the other persons intent to be right in the situation,only within our own hearts.
This influences then greatly though, to see resistance to their behaviors but not retaliation to them. If there is not chance of peace - walk away, if they follow stand firm.

WithIN Love
Darrell

[juliainkc]

I teach that forgiveness is treating a person as if they had never offended you, and more so, as if they had never done anything wrong in their lives.

Yes. I agree Darrell and it sounds easy enough doesn't it!? Well, my 'time' came up to see with crystal clear clarity as in when I Asked to see Truth I was given the realization that I was only boxing with the shadows and that it was I who was making it seem hard to give up my blanket that I had pulled over my head.

My judging and unforgiveness had become my 'state of delusional happiness' keeping me by my own choice in a state of constant misery because I so believed in it and had not yet awakened out from the dreamer dreaming the dream believing it was all real. I did not even realize I was doing it because it had become my basic nature. A kind of trying to look at my eyes without a mirror. H mmm.... What is impossible with 'mankind' or split mind ego consciousness is Possible with The One True God Mind who IS Inseparable, Everywhere and In All Things and All Knowing and All Wise. How do you top that!!

I can say NOW that nothing could be further from the my false mind's idea of Truth. Truth is True. I had no idea what True Happiness was until I was shown the error of my thinking. You know, things just kept repeating until I stopped and said, this is crazy!! Someone or Something is messing with me!! Hello? Is there really a God out there. "No one here but false gods, Julia!" "Psst! It's not out there! Its' in Here, WithIN. Listen to my Voice, the more you listen the more you will recognize my Voice. I will never lead you astray. I give you Peace founded on Trusting the Voice that leads you and has always been here leading you even in all these experiences that 'seem' to go awry. It led you to Ask didn't it? Would I ever deny Myself? H mmm. Humbling yet freeing to say the least. My God!! How much schtuff do I really 'need' in order to travel Light in a dense reality?!?

I kept stumbling over the 'beliefs of a false thought system'.  "But this did really happen!! 'They' really did this to me!! I'm not crazy!!" Oh? If you knew this without a doubt would you still be Asking? Well, anything is possible right? As in I might just be 'believing' with another mind's thought system about what is really True here. It's interesting when one awakens by having the covers pulled off and realizes one has been sleep walking. How does one explain this is even possible? It can only be experienced. That is one thing that No One can take from another. The Knowing of this Truth. It just Is. Yes?

This brings one to Ones True Self. GOD Thought System. Not religion or philosophy. Self Honor is a natural attribute of this state of being.

For to Give and to Receive are One in Truth. Cause and Effect. Influencing External Circumstances.

You enlarge my view and assist me in staying awake and seeing with New Eyes. The Eyes of Love Seen through Forgiveness.

Namaste WithIN Love My Beloved Brother,

Julia

[zensunni7]

I feel the most profound effect of forgiveness occurs in the realm of control. When I forgive, I ceased trying to control the outcome.
As in the confrontation, it can only escalate if it is being fed from both sides. IN my refusal to argue with my ex, I refused trying to control her. Although she was obviously trying to control me, and her rage was emanating from the reality she could not any longer - I was also trying to control her anger, and her sense of control over me and my emotions.
When I refused the urge to control how the confrontation would end, it ended.
Forgiveness was the essence of that relinquishing of any control at all, positive or negative.

WithIN Love
Darrell

[juliainkc]

When I refused the urge to control how the confrontation would end, it ended.
Forgiveness was the essence of that relinquishing of any control at all, positive or negative.

WithIN Love
Darrell

I trust that you know that I am agreeing with you here. This removes all power from the meaninglessness of outside influence and places it in its rightful place, WithIN.

Many Blessings, Be Well and InJoy this beautiful Spring day WithIN Love,

Julia