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Hello Baki Hamna, Now how would I go about doing that? I mean I can feel energy within me already as a result from my Chi Kung training. I'm not sure what the "Energy of God " feels like if its any different then chi.
It is not so much Energy as presence, but suffice it to say you will know. To clarify however, everyone is aware of God within at some level, even if it is unconsciously, and sometimes more pronounced than others, but this needs to develop into an absolute knowing and realisation. I cannot really expand on that, because language being such a crude instrument of communication does not facilitate it. Question.. Did Jesus or "Jeshua" actually die in the manner that is believed? I heard that whole dying on the cross was metaphoric or to symbolize something, and also that it wasn't even him that was on the cross.
You certainly ask the right questions  In my opinion, but not knowing for sure, Jeshua did not die on a cross. As I have mentioned numerous times on my site, newsletters etc. Jesus was the 17th successive God-man to be slain for humanity. Horus the Egyptian deity was the first, Mithras was number 16. The birth sequences as well as other characteristics are very similar as well. As is often the case, I have an article you can read here: http://www.ourultimatereality.com/the-bible-the-myths-the-power-and-the-glory.htmlMy own view is that the Romans added these parts in order to make the "new religion" more acceptable to the Romans who were previously worshippers of Mithras. I have heard, but cannot confirm, that the person known as Jesus might have been hung from a tree by the Jews, his own people, for herecy. That said, I have also heard and seen some really outlandish claims  The truth is we just do not know at this stage. Kind regards, Adrian.
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Oh ok. But I thought these people were immortal? I heard thru other resources that he and Buddha have achieved biological immortality. This when a person will never die but yet just merely ascended when they wanted to leave. They didn't leave a body behind. Any part that didn't ascend with them was left here and turned to ashes and dust. At least from what I read. Theres so many resources out there its hard to determine what is correct and what is misleading or false...
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Hello Baki Hanma, Oh ok. But I thought these people were immortal? I heard thru other resources that he and Buddha have achieved biological immortality. This when a person will never die but yet just merely ascended when they wanted to leave. They didn't leave a body behind. Any part that didn't ascend with them was left here and turned to ashes and dust. At least from what I read. Theres so many resources out there its hard to determine what is correct and what is misleading or false...
If you are referring to Horus, Mithras and the other deities, they never actually existed as people, they were simply mythical beings just like the countless other pantheons of Gods that for example the devotees of Wicca still follow today to represent the God and Goddess. Everyone has the capability of biological immortality, but why anyone would want such a thing is a different matter. Some of the ancient Egyptian masters were said to have lived for 300 years before deciding to leave. Ageing is a function of the Mind as is everything else. As far as I know Buddah lived a normal life span. In addition there are Avatars. These are advanced beings, including "Ascended Masters" who, due to their control over their own Mind and therefore Energy, simply create a physical body by lowering their vibration to the physical level, creating Astral and Etheric and then physical bodies, and then use it to interact with humanity. There also walk-ins who either take over bodies that have been seriously injured by agreement with the body "owner" or agree with the owner of a normal body to swap places. Other Ascended Master and advanced Beings simply volunteer to incarnate normally on Earth to help guide humanity through particularly vital times in human evolution as we are now in the Transition of the Ages. Kind regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2007, 18:16:16 » |
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In addition there are Avatars. These are advanced beings, including "Ascended Masters" who, due to their control over their own Mind and therefore Energy, simply create a physical body by lowering their vibration to the physical level, creating Astral and Etheric and then physical bodies, and then use it to interact with humanity.
Wow!!! That is amazing  . I wonder if I ever contacted one before. I use to hear voices in my head when I was young, maybe it was one of them  . I heard from these sites known as "DNA Activation" that Jesus was a twelfth level " Avatar". There are levels right? So I've heard/read How do you know if your an avatar? Also do you know of Indigo children? Are there any signs to accurately define whether or not a person is either one of these? I had took an on line test one time, twice. One time it said I wasn't an indigo and the other said I was. I immediately became skeptical and never bothered with it again. Everyone has the capability of biological immortality. I had an argument with a relative about this once in the past. It would seem that this may be another misinterpreted meaning. Many people assume one who is immortal, for those who believe it exist, will never die... Literally!!! Under any circumstances whatsoever.. Many people even go as far enough to believe that your physical body can be nearly destroyed or seriously mortally wounded and still live. I say to those people, " Find me one who is immortal, then put a bullet thru his head and see if hes still alive after that  " !! Sorry if that sounded rude but I believe in immortality to an extint. Spiritual immortality yes. Physically!?? Maybe as far as not aging I mean I've heard of such people as well Adrian who could live for 200-300 years or so. Assuming the natural causes of death are negated do to a higher human vibratory system. But for someone to be practically destroyed, now thats gone take some serious persuasion  Everyone has the capability of biological immortality, but why anyone would want such a thing is a different matter. Well, to each his own right. Maybe people fear death so much they just cant take it  . So they seek to become immortal. Me, I don't really care when I die which is why I don't even think about death really, unless asking questions such as these. Even if I was to die now I would not fear it cause I believe everything happens for a reason. When its your time its your time. You were at the wrong place at the wrong time for a reason. Aaliyahs plane crashed with her on it for a reason. 911 happened for a reason. No matter how unfair or grotesque the cause of death may seem. It was that person(s) time to leave for now. Unless you are fully realised, like you mentioned above, then you can choose your own time of death right? There also walk-ins who either take over bodies that have been seriously injured by agreement with the body "owner" or agree with the owner of a normal body to swap places.
Are these walk-ins always good folks  ? I mean good in our human concept of the word, being that there really isn't such thing. And wow wouldn't that affect who you where? I mean like you would have a different personality now right? Also would this explain multiple personalities?
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Hello Baki Hanma, Wow!!! That is amazing  . I wonder if I ever contacted one before. I use to hear voices in my head when I was young, maybe it was one of them  . I heard from these sites known as "DNA Activation" that Jesus was a twelfth level " Avatar". There are levels right? So I've heard/read Up to the age of between 5 and 7 almost all children are psychic and clairvoyant - it is our natural state. What happens however is that as our parents relentlessly expose us to material things such as toys that shift emphasis to the material senses and away from the Astral senses, those abilities disappear. Also when children appear to be playing with "imaginary friends" they are actually playing with real friends. Then parents tell them to "stop imagining things" which causes the Subconscious Mind of the child to believe that it is wrong and they start to feel guilty about it and above all cease to believe, and by 8 years at the most the damage is done - children are totally indocrinated into the material world. Boys are then given "Action Man" or "GI Joe" to learn how to destroy people and things, followed by ludicrously violent video games, and girls get their "Barbie Dolls" to learn how to to "make a home" and have kids. As for the "DNA activation" and "twelth level Avatar" - I really would not take too much notice of those in my opinion. How do you know if your an avatar? Also do you know of Indigo children? Are there any signs to accurately define whether or not a person is either one of these? I had took an on line test one time, twice. One time it said I wasn't an indigo and the other said I was. I immediately became skeptical and never bothered with it again.
Avatars know they are Avatars because they have not incarnated in the normal way, and therefore are here with complete knowledge of who they are. I personally do not subscribe to the idea of "indigo children" or their other derivatives. If there is such a thing as an "Indigo Child" my eldest son shows all the characteristics and then some, but I would never say he was an "Indigo Child". I also believe it is fundamentally inappropiate to give children or adults a title that suggests, and makes them believe they are superior to anyone else. For that reason I do not recognise people who call themselves "gurus" or "masters" or anything else that suggests they are enlightened - people who give themselves such titles are not enlightened for that reason. I refer to people like Jesus and Hermes Trismegistus as "Masters" because they are real Masters. There are also a good number of real Masters in incarnation on Earth today, but they would never call themselves a "Master". Everyone has the capability of biological immortality. I had an argument with a relative about this once in the past. It would seem that this may be another misinterpreted meaning. Many people assume one who is immortal, for those who believe it exist, will never die... Literally!!! Under any circumstances whatsoever.. Many people even go as far enough to believe that your physical body can be nearly destroyed or seriously mortally wounded and still live. I say to those people, " Find me one who is immortal, then put a bullet thru his head and see if hes still alive after that  " !![/quote] Everyone has the potential for true physical immortality. Our bodies are totally rebuilt every few years. The only reason people "grow old" is because they are taught by society that they will "grow old" even describing the symptoms of "growing old". In addition, the TV is loaded with "vanity product commercials" that reinforce this illusion. The Subconscious Mind then faithfully rebuilds the body in accordance with this blueprint. If you want an example of someone who rebuilt his body completely after almost totally destroying it, then read everything on this site: http://www.themiracleman.org/Sorry if that sounded rude but I believe in immortality to an extint. Spiritual immortality yes. Physically!?? Maybe as far as not aging I mean I've heard of such people as well Adrian who could live for 200-300 years or so. Assuming the natural causes of death are negated do to a higher human vibratory system. But for someone to be practically destroyed, now thats gone take some serious persuasion  Spiritual immortality is a fundamantal fact on on eof the greatest truths. What people call "physical life" is but a mere moment in the grand scheme of things. Everyone has the capability of biological immortality, but why anyone would want such a thing is a different matter. Well, to each his own right. Maybe people fear death so much they just cant take it  . So they seek to become immortal. Me, I don't really care when I die which is why I don't even think about death really, unless asking questions such as these. Even if I was to die now I would not fear it cause I believe everything happens for a reason. When its your time its your time. You were at the wrong place at the wrong time for a reason. Aaliyahs plane crashed with her on it for a reason. 911 happened for a reason. No matter how unfair or grotesque the cause of death may seem. It was that person(s) time to leave for now. Unless you are fully realised, like you mentioned above, then you can choose your own time of death right? [/quote] I agree that people fear death, and it is one of the fundamantal issues that need to be addressed and which I do address in my book. There also walk-ins who either take over bodies that have been seriously injured by agreement with the body "owner" or agree with the owner of a normal body to swap places. Are these walk-ins always good folks  ? I mean good in our human concept of the word, being that there really isn't such thing. And wow wouldn't that affect who you where? I mean like you would have a different personality now right? Also would this explain multiple personalities? Not always. I am sure you have heard of "possession" which also happens, and often by some very dubious entities indeed. But at the same time the person being possessed has to invite the possessor in the first place, which can happen at many levels, including by prior agreement in previous lives. Kind regards, Adrian.
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« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2007, 01:33:30 » |
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If you want an example of someone who rebuilt his body completely after almost totally destroying it, then read everything on this site: http://www.themiracleman.org/yea but he survived the plane crash first. If your not killed on the spot there is always a possible chance of survival but the thing is you need time in order to have Faith in God as he did. Meaning from the time the plane crash, the amount of time that went by before getting him to the hospital and the amount of time he spent in the hospital before his body fully gave out was ample time for him to use his mind power and Faith in God to recover. The article said his spine was crushed, that is hard to imagine for me  seeing that it didn't instantly kill him. However, I believe the whole outcome would have been different if it was his head that was crushed and not his spine  Up to the age of between 5 and 7 almost all children are psychic and clairvoyant - it is our natural state. What happens however is that as our parents relentlessly expose us to material things such as toys that shift emphasis to the material senses and away from the Astral senses, those abilities disappear. Also when children appear to be playing with "imaginary friends" they are actually playing with real friends. Then parents tell them to "stop imagining things" which causes the Subconscious Mind of the child to believe that it is wrong and they start to feel guilty about it and above all cease to believe, and by 8 years at the most the damage is done - children are totally indocrinated into the material world.
Boys are then given "Action Man" or "GI Joe" to learn how to destroy people and things, followed by ludicrously violent video games, and girls get their "Barbie Dolls" to learn how to to "make a home" and have kids.
Well the imaginary friends I had I thought up myself. Like movie creators and cartoon creators. I would first think of the person and then pretend to play with him. I use to do it alot when I could have friends over. But I thought them up they never just came to me out of the blue  , however I have seen apparitions a couple of time for about a second or a slit second and sometimes I still do where I work. I work in a hospital which would make it obvious cause alot of people died in hospitals  Everyone has the potential for true physical immortality. Our bodies are totally rebuilt every few years. The only reason people "grow old" is because they are taught by society that they will "grow old" even describing the symptoms of "growing old". In addition, the TV is loaded with "vanity product commercials" that reinforce this illusion. The Subconscious Mind then faithfully rebuilds the body in accordance with this blueprint.
Thats something I've also learned on my journey's within these field of thoughts. However I didn't want to jump the gun so I assume that there was always some type of limitation to it. Like if there isn't enough time to repair your body. For instance the example I made with in my above post: "Find me one who is immortal, then put a bullet thru his head and see if hes still alive after that "I was just implying that some damages are way to severe in which the time needed to recover is extremely limited. If you were shot in the head your brain would be serverely damage with only seconds to about a minute or two tops before it dies. You would have lost consciousness long before that limited time thus you would have the awareness of your body in order to use your mind to a level in which it would bust out with an "Wolverine" (from X - MEN) type healing effect. People who have been bitten by poisonous snakes obviously died because they weren't able to be aided in time. Some poisons take only seconds to spread throughout your whole body; well depending on how fast your blood is traveling at the time of being bitten. I was taught alot of pros and cons about "Immortality" yet many people agreed that if the body is way too damaged, your soul or spirit would just pop out cause it can no longer sustain the injured vessel it was inhabiting. I don't know how true this would hold to your belief after reading your last post, but if you are able to enlighten me further on this by all means do so if you don't mind  Not always. I am sure you have heard of "possession" which also happens, and often by some very dubious entities indeed. But at the same time the person being possessed has to invite the possessor in the first place, which can happen at many levels, including by prior agreement in previous lives.
So there are such things as demons (well by are standards) and the whole "Emily Rose" scenario is true or possible. Would it also be possible to create your own living identity or creature then have it enter you? I know in some of your books you talk about us being able to create " Astral Entities" and " Elementariness" and all that good stuff  . These entities we create can practically do anything? Are they only limited on the astral plane by our beliefs like we are down here? Hahah I was thinking of creating a " Good Luck Entity" to help watch over me a some others I care for  .
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« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2007, 04:36:47 » |
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Hello Baki Hanma,
Yes it is true of course that if you sustain an injury that the organic body cannot cope with, the Astra-Mental body will simply leave.
The immortality I was referring to is continuity of life under normal circumstances. Maurice Goodmans Faith was in God, but not in a religious sense, rather in the God-power within himself as an aspect of God. Every part of his body was almost completely destroyed - all he could do was blink his eyes.
Of course children do "create" imaginary friends, but then they are not imaginary at all. Imagination is the real thing, the external manifestation of it is just that. But at the same time children do "tune in" to the Astral and interact with real beings such as "fairies". The brainwaves of a child also operate almost constantly at the alpha level which is an expanded state of consciousness, in turn enabling their Subconscious Mind to absorbe information much more quickly.
Yes entities known generically as "demons" do exist, but they are effectively at the oppsite end of the scale of polarity as Angels. Again, in order to maintain balance, it is necessary to have "good" as well as "evil". Withouth "evil" there would be no reference point for "good".
We can create Elementaries in the Astral and Elementals in the Mental Plane and program them for a wide range of tasks. In fact this is a valuable exercise because it resembles the creation of Life itself. How we create an Elementary or Elemental, which are effectively intelligent Thought Forms, are more or less the same as how Source, God created humans and all sentient as well as other life.
They cannoy be programmed to enter your own body or that of another person however unless they were very advanced which would take a powerful Magician to accomplish. They can be programmed to protect us at the Astral and Mental level though.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2007, 16:11:50 » |
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Greetings everybody, Back for another day of learning at the wonderful school of O.U.R  Yes entities known generically as "demons" do exist, but they are effectively at the oppsite end of the scale of polarity as Angels. Again, in order to maintain balance, it is necessary to have "good" as well as "evil". Withouth "evil" there would be no reference point for "good".
So is it possible for an "Emily Rose" scenario to happen?? With that logic could it be possible that ones "Higher Self" or the lesser aspect of it (Spirit Entity) can be a demon? Those on Earth who commit horrible crimes of rape, murder with the sure joy and pleasure of it, locked up in a mental asylum be inhabiting a demon as their spirit? Being that the Higher Self carries all aspects of its recent and future carnations with in it. It can send and evil aspect of itself from a past life to inhabit another body for another reincarnation process? They cannot be programmed to enter your own body or that of another person however unless they were very advanced which would take a powerful Magician to accomplish. They can be programmed to protect us at the Astral and Mental level though.
So in other words you need incredible advanced mind power and concentration to pull it off right? Meaning it is still possible, just difficult to achieve correct. I mean if we are truly GOD and possess the same powers of creation as he does. Then shouldn't we be able to create beings on the astral planes and lower there vibrations to manifest on the physical plane in the same or similar manner in which we manifested or incarnated on the physical plane. If not, please explain why. Cause this is where many of my misinterpretations come in. The whole talk of us being ultimate, limitless, God, Powerful. Yet there seems to be many exceptions not mentioned before whenever I pop big questions such as these. Yes sometimes I feel the need to challenge this " Ultimate" and " Limitless" power in order to obtain the real truth. Yes it is true of course that if you sustain an injury that the organic body cannot cope with, the Astra-Mental body will simply leave.
The immortality I was referring to is continuity of life under normal circumstances. Maurice Goodmans Faith was in God, but not in a religious sense, rather in the God-power within himself as an aspect of God. Every part of his body was almost completely destroyed - all he could do was blink his eyes.
Yea, thats more or less how I look at it. There such thing as physical limitations. We are only truly "Ultimately Unlimited" in the higher planes of existence. Or am I'm wrong again  . Of course children do "create" imaginary friends, but then they are not imaginary at all. Imagination is the real thing, the external manifestation of it is just that. But at the same time children do "tune in" to the Astral and interact with real beings such as "fairies". The brainwaves of a child also operate almost constantly at the alpha level which is an expanded state of consciousness, in turn enabling their Subconscious Mind to absorbe information much more quickly.
Cool. I just never looked at it that way. The way you refer to it before was seemed something like seeing someone that wasn't there or there to anyone else. Meaning only you and other attuned people can see them. Me I only see them in my head similar to the act of daydreaming. They don't appear near or in front of me unless I think of them. It wasn't like a visualization thing with me like I can sit here and visualize an apple in my hand and every detail of it. Sure astrally it is there but not physically. Which means only I can see it. Yet my imaginary friends where more along the lines of simply thinking them here or daydreaming them. Like if you were to sit down and imagine yourself at the beach. You would most like take yourself to the beach in you imagination rather then imagine the house or room turning into a beach. You picture the scene in your head, imagination not visualization. But hey thats just me. They never popped up on their own.
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Hi Baki Hanma, I realize you are looking for definite answers to hard questions, and for the truth of it all. Many times, as I've experienced it, truth unless one is ready for it, will wait until you are ready to absorb it into the whole of you, spirit, soul and body.Functioning from the perspective of " anything is possible with mind", leads to why isn't it always working as I planned! Right or wrong, I've come to believe that at some point in our triune being, there is still some kind of doubt existing, that need correcting. What one believes or does not believe, is their truth. It may not be another's truth, but it is sure you're truth. You're questions looking for truth in various areas, is good, but you are face to face with a conundrum. What you read or hear is the other persons truth or belief. Mere words will not do it.The person seeking truth will find and know the knowledge of a thing, but that is still not necessarily the truth of it. That knowledge can only become you're truth, with acceptance of it from within you. It is not my intent to offend in any manner, but I know of what you are asking, and the great difficulty in obtaining that which you ask for. Truth. Be Well.
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Yes indeed I do understand that very well, but its like you said and Adrian said. It is hard to put in all in words for the proper understanding. One person truth is indeed that persons truth, yet there are such things as the Ultimate truth, the simple cant get around it facts. Like in the past when many people believed the Earth to be flat. It was then proved that the real " Truth" was that the Earth was round, and that you would not fall off it if you travel to the ends of it. I understand in this world we live in we are faced with many belief factors which is what is truly influencing the world, our Belief.. Personally I think thats one of the reasons science exist in the manner in which it does. To try and dig out the simple truth and facts of what is from the hokus pokus and religious like belief. It would seem that the world is too materialistic and so that is what the current stage of science focus on. I don't mean to deprive you guys in any such way. In all honest truth even though I am " Seeking" the ultimate truth of this world or universe at that. I still find this to be a great topic to discuss regardless so any enlightenment from any of yous would be helpful. I mean either I resonate with it or I don't right. Yet it is always good to learn about others experiences and such. I've learned a lot by coming here so I feel that I can still learn more. However with all do respect I never just take just anything with a grain of salt  ...
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Hello Baki Hanma,
There is one absolute certainty regarding the Truth - everyone recognises it for what it is. Countless people write to me with words to the extent "this really resonates with me as the absolute Truth".
This as opposd for example to those who might listen to a "sermon" in a church, which is really just repeating the official doctrines of that religion.
There is a very good reason for this - we are all aspects of God, Who knows All in the Universe, and we are all channels of experience and expression of God. Many people tend to block the Truth due to years of indoctrination by religion and the physical world generally, but those that do consciously connect with Source will know beyond doubt.
This is the very reason why "inspired" works, i.e. words from and inspired by Source, God, are so powerful and pervasive - they contain the undisputable Truth which people intuitively recognise for what it is.
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"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened."
This is absolutely true providing always it happens with absolute sincerity and with an open Mind.
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« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2007, 17:03:56 » |
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Yea but your truth being your truth doesn't make it the absolute truth. Like I said about the Earth Being flat but was proving to actually (the real truth) be round, not flat like every use to believe. What I'm doing is trying to weed out the BS from the real Truth. People like to make up things and just believe them in order to ease the mental stress from things they cant prove to others. I use to believe that Christianity was the ultimate truth. I use to believe that all evil go to hell and all good go to heaven. Whoever that wasn't baptised was going to hell. Whoever didn't serve the lord was going to hell. I mean for a while I was kind of living on eggshells, trying to be perfect so I wont burn for all eternity. However during my quest to seek the truth about psychic powers, I stubbled upon other information claiming what really happens to people when they past, and all the other good stuff. Some things sound too far fetched or incomplete. Unlike your which makes a hell of a lot more sense then most things I read, although many of the things in your books I have already read and practically says the same thing as the previous info I dugg up. The difference is yours seems to explain a lot more and in more detail. I cant honestly say that I undoubtedly believe ever word in all your books word for word, the reason why is because even though you explain as clear as you can. I sometimes still have trouble getting it entirely or as Talker might say " absorbing" it all in as it is. So what I cant make sense out of I put up in question. I don't necessarily doubt it but I don't fully believe it either. However with the info you provide theres more I resonate with. I cant really say the feeling I get is intuitive undoubted belief that this is true, but more of a feeling of relief comes over me. The honest truth for the reason I believe in your teachings is because you try your best to explain everything you researched or practiced, in as much logical detail as possible. You leave very little, if any information, up in the air where either you believe it or you don't. The whole after life thing you preached thru the O.U.R book and this forum makes a lot more sense then what I learned in churched. Thus I going with this cause it feels right. I already said it once but I think I'll say it again  . I know everything cant be explained. Many things are only meant at this time to be experienced or felt (intuitively, emotionally). Whatever you can point out as a simple fact of; i.e "what is", would be most appreciated. Like I said I don't mean to deprive or annoy any of yous and I sincerely apologize if I am. If there are things you cant answere, please just by pass it. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all  . I mean I'm asking which means I don't know either  . However I am a truth seeker, cant help it. I cant rest until I know or at least get a lead.
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« Last Edit: December 18, 2007, 18:17:51 by Baki Hanma »
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People live there lives bound by what they accept as right and wrong, true and false, correct and incorrect. That is how one defines reality!
But what does it mean to be correct, true or false? Hmm, merely vage concepts. Their reality may be a mirage!
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« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2007, 06:17:44 » |
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Hello Baki Hanma,
A feeling of relief is often an intuitive feeling. When people hear something that is intuitively false, as with the religious doctrines, they know deep down that it cannot be true but at the same time the teachings are so pervasive and sometimes threatening, and coming from people who purport to represent god, that they suffer mental states such as anxiety and fear.
In life generally we allow our emotions to be our "guidance system". It it feels good or better still joyful then we are on the right path. If it feels fearful, apprehensive or just plain wrong then we are on the wrong path.
It is a pity that people caught up in religious dogma do not stop and think more before believing something.
If God is our "Father" for example, what parent would give a child life and then commit that child to an eternity of torture for not doing exactly as he or she is told to do without question?
If Jesus came to Earth as the "son of God", the supreme Being" to die for the "sins" of humanity, then who is Jesus appeasing? Clearly the answer must be God. So again, what father would take great pleasure of seeing his child horribly tortured as a pre-condition of "forgiving mankind" when in fact God has the power to do that anyway as the Supreme Creator.
None of these doctrines make any sense on any level so why do people believe them?
I think the answer, partially at least, lies in the fact that people need to believe in something greater than themselves, and also fear "death" and what will happen to them afterwards.
This is one of the reasons I was inspired to write my book - by being presented with the facts, placed into a proper perspective, the reader may be informed to the extent they will intuitively know the truth, thereby freeing themselves of the fear and dogma.
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free". -- John 8:32
Kind regards,
Adrian.
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2007, 00:09:04 » |
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Yes  . You hit the nail right on the head  , thats exactly how I feel. God should not be compared in in manner of living that we cultivate on Earth. We as humans judge and damn people to what we feel they deserve and thats because we all have much much too learn before we understand or that light bulb goes off in their heads like, Oohhhhhh this is what were supposed to really be doing!! And yea if God is suppose to be the ultimate representation of " Unconditional Love" and forgiveness on Any level then it really doesn't make sense for him to damn certain ones to the fiery pit in the underworld for not being perfect or lacking understanding. In some peoples eyes doing wrong is what there taught. It is the enviorment that is also responsible for the way a person may turn out. Of course like you said it is all what the person resonate with on the vibrational and mental level. It is not a persona fault for being here in the first place, it was Gods wish for us to incarnate within the physical planes. If God wanted a perfect world then he would have made it such, but then there would be nothing to experience or learn. If God has sight of the everything with in the time spectrum; past, present and future, then he should have known how the world would turn out and know that there would be evil in the world. So knowing all this why would he go ahead to start such a life on Earth and then condemn those suited unworthy to hell for not being perfect. Not everyone on the planet is intune with what we should be in tune with and he must have known this from the start. My only guess is that God gave us the freedom to choose for ourselves how to experience the world and gather what we need for our ultimate ascension.
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People live there lives bound by what they accept as right and wrong, true and false, correct and incorrect. That is how one defines reality!
But what does it mean to be correct, true or false? Hmm, merely vage concepts. Their reality may be a mirage!
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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2007, 03:13:16 » |
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Hello Baki Hanma,
That is correct, in fact the whole basis of Life is to achieve ultimate perfection through experience.
It is only though experience including making mistakes that people learn and become more perfect, and in fact not only does that experience benefit the individual, it also benefits the Whole.
In fact this the fundamantal basis of all Life. Source, "God" desires only perfection, and the way that is being achieved is to endow countless Beings throughout the Universe to live and learn through freewill, without influence from God, and in so doing God assimilates the experience of every one of those Beings thereby adding to ultimate perfection.
This is a reason that God never, ever intervenes in our lives and always grants us everything we believe we require in order to experience.
Kind regards,
Adrian.
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