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« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2009, 01:58:23 »

Allright Louis,


That "inside" sounds to me a lot like..ego. As when you love yourself inside you accept yourself as you are. Ego however is always telling you otherwise.

Ego is made of multiple parts ..constantly talking with eachother. When a person is balanced these parts work together for the person fulfilment.

There parts are things like: protector or controller, the internal critic, the image-consultant, the skeptic, and so on...

Here is what the experts have to say about the "critic" for instance:

The Critic

The inner Critic is the part that constantly tells you that you are ugly, stupid, fat, that you don’t deserve love, that you’ll never amount to anything, etc. etc.  The Critic never shuts up and never tires.  It has an endless supply of denigrating insults, complete with specific examples from your life to back them up.

This part gets a very bad rap in psychological and self-help circles.  Anyone who comes up with a serum that kills the inner Critic could make a fortune selling it.  People are understandably tired of this never-ending tirade of self abuse.

People with strong Critics can appear different ways:  they can be relentlessly critical of others, they can be relentlessly critical of themselves, or they can do both behaviors.  People with strong Critics can be annoying to others and debilitating to themselves.

What most people don’t understand is the value of this part.  People with very weak Critics often have trouble getting motivated, completing tasks, and being ambitious.  They make more mistakes than people with stronger Critics.  Most successful people have healthy, active inner Critics.  The Critic can inspire higher standards, higher ambition, and constant improvement.  This is the actual goal of the Critic; think of the Army slogan, “be all that you can be.”  The Critic is your ruthless inner personal trainer, trying to get you to be all that you can be.


you can get all these free when you sign up at Tim Kelley: www.knowyourpurpose.com

of course it always goes with how much one wants to invest in personal development ...as opposed to being constantly whiny and expecting others to agree with the uttered insanity (btw..The Course in Miracles talks about the 'insanity' that stops one for touching Christ within... or in other words the false voice of the Ego...
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« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2009, 11:04:03 »

Adding to Laura's wonderful salad of archetypes from Caroline Myss's The Language of Archetypes;

The Four Survival Archetypes everyone is born with: child, prostitute, victim, and saboteur

The Royal Family: queen, king, damsel, knight, and others

The Shadow Family: thief, trickster, addict, and others

Thank you for your resourcefulness Laura! Always~ smiley

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« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2009, 11:17:22 »


Julia you're so confusing. What did the book say?




What I was sharing Louis, is that the 'response' doesn't always show up in the way we think the package should look like.

In this case, it wasn't an actual Book of Zen. The book ended up being a book of Zen applications when practically applied. So, it showed up in a different way yet the underlying 'meaning' was in the same vein of what practicing Zen does.

I see the reason for this is due to where I was at with all 'religions' and 'faiths'. I had thrown everything out and gave it all a rest, I was done with it all. What change was 'needed'
in me was to not identify myself with any particular 'spiritual path' by being removed from the whole genre. It was in bringing it all together by removing all the labels we use to separate ourself into a camp or category which can allow one to grow into spiritual arrogance and judging of the way another lives or believes. Narrow mindedness.

And this is why I sometimes get on benders (my lesson to unlearn) when I sense ones saying that the 'way' another lives as in looks, dress, cultural backgrounds or ingrounds, eating and believing is a possibility of making one unable to remove the idea that it is all the same for us all.  Our Unified Divine agreement or contract with our Higher Self expressing in the totality of possibilities in this earthly experience. We call it remembering who we are experience. Perhaps it could also be said, a forgetting who we are experience.

Showing me to keep my mind open always in all ways and trust in Eternal Source of all leading all as I am Being led...

Love in Spirit,

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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2009, 15:37:14 »

Laura..

I need my inner critic. With out that I wouldn't know what I want to create myself as. I wouldn't even know how to dress myself.

I am not that negative. Why are you so concerned with my desiring?
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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2009, 16:03:34 »

Um Louis, no this is not Laura, this is Julia, cool

What Laura shared agrees with you really!



I need my inner critic. With out that I wouldn't know what I want to create myself as. I wouldn't even know how to dress myself.

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The Critic

This part gets a very bad rap in psychological and self-help circles. 

What most people don’t understand is the value of this part.  People with very weak Critics often have trouble getting motivated, completing tasks, and being ambitious.  They make more mistakes than people with stronger Critics.  Most successful people have healthy, active inner Critics


The Critic can inspire higher standards, higher ambition, and constant improvement.  This is the actual goal of the Critic; think of the Army slogan, “be all that you can be.”  The Critic is your ruthless inner personal trainer, trying to get you to be all that you can be.



See? It's in there...another 'name' for it is the Saboteur...

Love you all, tiptoe, tiptoe...
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« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2009, 19:16:44 »

Dear Louis and Julia


Julia I think Louis is still dealing with "inner child" issues. What he really needs is a Mother (or a Mother's comfort) that's why he asks but not with the intention of listening what he hears, but only to secretly seek approval, love, acceptance, and all the nurturing stuff he thinks hes never got. Don't panic Louis, we've all been there.

Louis my concern is only to help you ask yourself ask the right questions. As for everything that we seek there's a drive and a purpose and once achieved is supposed to bring us fulfillment. However the inner saboteurs never let you achieve those because they know that once you've done it they won't bring you the fulfillment you think ..so they keep you in a perpetual state of never reaching your goals.

Thus in desires stands our salvation and downfall...

The Wounded Child

The Wounded Child is the part of us that felt hurt, frightened, abandoned, reject, unseen, unloved, or helpless when we were young. 

This part got a lot of attention in the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, raising awareness of its presence in the psyche.  Despite all that’s been written about it, in many people the Wounded Child is deeply buried and not at all apparent.  Most people aren’t aware that they have an inner Wounded Child at all.

The Wounded Child makes itself known primarily through its needs.  You may have noticed some people in your life occasionally seeming young and needy.  This is the Wounded Child, looking for comfort for its pain.  What is less obvious is that all of us do this in one form or another.

The Wounded Child is a little different than the parts I’ve mentioned so far.  The previous parts are all protectors of one kind or another, responsible for keeping you safe in different ways.  In fact, it’s the Wounded Child that they’re trying to protect. 

This is a very important point:  if you recall, maintaining safety is one of the ego’s primary functions.  In practice, this means protecting the Wounded Child from being wounded again.  We’ll see how this works in the next two issues.  Keep reading!


Timothy A. Kelley

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Anyway I think I will stop here pasting good advice - who wants it ...is only a google away...


Louis all I can tell you that after having desires that didn't brought me what I really needed I was left with a major one: to know myself.  So far...it's been the most rewarding experience that I lived since my coming into this physical plane.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_thyself
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« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2009, 20:31:53 »

Laura...

You're scaring me. You're not allowed to know that much about me.
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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2009, 21:39:55 »

Greetings All,
Is easy to start believing one is all alone with certain emotions. So in a moment of thinking that there must be some group of 'floating energies' that can be tapped into, 'willing or not', and did a Google search for some 'normal !' or 'standard !' mentions.
Granted that the Google hits were 'not all germane' to the search words, yet did prove interesting in many ways.
Be well

Results 1 - 10 of about 62,500,000 for the devil hates me

Results 1 - 10 of about 21,400,000 for the devil loves me

Results 1 - 10 of about 25,400,000 for god loves me.

Results 1 - 10 of about 6,950,000 for god hates me

Results 1 - 10 of about 10,500,000 for life is a bitch

Results 1 - 10 of about 87,400,000 for life is beautiful

Results 1 - 10 of about 47,600,000 for im lonely

Results 1 - 10 of about 19,800,000 for im a mess

Results 1 - 10 of about 78,000,000 for im sick.

Results 1 - 10 of about 245,000,000 for im happy

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,250,000,000 for dont like how I look

Results 1 - 10 of about 43,800,000 for hate my body

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,360,000 for You're scaring me

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,350,000 for Why are you so concerned      with my desiring

Results 1 - 10 of about 374,000 for Daydreaming doesn't change the body

Results 1 - 10 of about 20,800 for HOW DA HE11 CAN I EXPERIENCE PERFECT
HEALTH
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« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2009, 22:11:50 »

Dear Laura and Talker,

Talker, what an excellent idea of revealing 'you are not alone'... one of the many faces of fear is to make one feel isolated.

Which is in line with your excellent contribution here Laura into the Insight of understanding one's ego or Wounded Child.

This in and of itelf could take up a whole other post on relationships... hmmm...

Indeed, it is about asking the questions we have very specifically. Removing all the outside reasons and getting down to the heart of the matter. Is this a call to Love or Love's Answering a Call to Love?



Louis all I can tell you that after having desires that didn't brought me what I really needed I was left with a major one: to know myself.  So far...it's been the most rewarding experience that I lived since my coming into this physical plane.


Amen! Or So Be IT!!

Great sharing here Laura and Talker Truly!!

Love to All in Divine Spirit,

Julia cool
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« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2009, 22:46:45 »

Dear Julia and Talker,


Oh wow Talker .. you actually did all that work??   shocked  (You are hired!!) ....

Julia stop it ... you making me blush  embarassed   ...lol...

you are all sweethearts ... big huggable sweethearts //// you too Louis, don't cry, you are.

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« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2009, 23:49:25 »

Another very interesting thread,

I feel I am on a very similar boat as Goonie and Louis because I too want to change my body (to be taller),
and reading the posts I felt a roller coaster of emotions. Reading some of Louis' posts I felt discouraged because
if he has tried all the things I am trying and still hasn't change maybe it doesn't work and I can't change either.
But then Talkers and other posts give me assurance that I can change and maybe Louis was just not doing it right.

Also I understand why Louis doesn't like some of the posts you see them as saying accept your current problem and move on?
Because I don't like that either I feel like this, is something I have to change, I don't want to accept it. This is
my ultimate validation. After I get the height I want I will know anything is possible.

Also while reading and researching I believe I have found one of my major obstacles to reaching my goal. I read an article
she called it "Secondary Benefit Reversal"  Which basically is you want to achieve your goal but at the same
time you don't because subconciously you believe there are benefits of (being short, not enough hair ... ect) For example
I've been short for a while now that it has become my ultimate excuse. What ever social problems I think I have I can blame on
my height. And I am afraid to get taller and still have those problems and have nothing to blame. For example: what if I get taller and
"I am still not considered attractive", "The girl who I like still doesn't like me back" ... ect. I am sorry my thoughts are really scattered
sorry if that didn't make sense but here is the article: http://www.emofree.com/articles/psychological-reversal.htm

Also wanted to share a possible higher guidance? before I started making money, I felt I had all the tools necessary to make
money and I just needed it all to come together. And finally the opportunity was given. So I was thinking maybe its the same
way with this I have all the tools I just need it to all come together. So I made a txt file titled "All Coming Together" and listed
all the things I have learned and all the tools and things I can do everyday. For example, EFT, read Secret Of the Ages (btw thanks
Talker its a great book), do NEW Energy ways, listen to audios ect... But even tho I made that list the past week or so I have been
procrastinating a lot on the those things, until today. Today I put the "All Coming Together" list and my iPod and for whatever reason
I decided to shorten it by just using the first letter of all three words and I ended up getting ACT. I just thought that was a clear
message from who/what ever telling me to get up off my ass and do the stuff inside the list.

I apologize again my thoughts are very scattered and might not make sense but I just wanted to share.

Thanks for listening. And I hope I was able to help a little.

-Praveen

P.S. - Thanks again Talker for the suggestion to read Secret Of the Ages I love it. From that and Adrian
I am slowly realizing that my outer physical body is a built from the blueprint in our minds. And no
when results are slow instead of doubting that I try to find a reason why the blueprint hasn't changed it.

P.P.S - I am correct in believing that the subconsciousness holds the blueprint and the physical body is an
built exactly on that blueprint right?
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« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2009, 23:53:35 »

Dear Julia and Talker,

Oh wow Talker .. you actually did all that work??   shocked  (You are hired!!) ....

Julia stop it ... you making me blush  embarassed   ...lol...

you are all sweethearts ... big huggable sweethearts //// you too Louis, don't cry, you are.

Dear Laura,

Regards your "Oh wow Talker .. you actually did all that work??   shocked  (You are hired!!) ....", Do give that serious consideration.
I don't come cheap for labor and service of this sort.
I consider $00.37 1/2 (thirty seven and a half cents) an hour my basic rate. If able to handle those rates would consider employment or contract.
Seriously, that pay rate, was one of my very first jobs in the real world, some 70 years ago. Was even considered a fair wage at the time. Few if any, can relate to the wage scale of those days, to what is happening today. As numerous of my blog posts relate, if anyone starts 'thinking outside the box', and will endeavor to make 'thought' changes, eventually, beautiful things do manifest. Not always overnight, not always in a few weeks or even years, depends much, on ones existing 'mind set'. Willingness to change, desire and intensity to better ones self, must take focus, full time.
At this point, must mention, that I 'do recognize' a  'forming future', being developed by ones thoughts, being readied for future manifestation, even in the face of 'it all happens in the now'.
My thoughts as expressed here, are not readily accepted by 'modern day manifesting theory' groups.
So be it. But it worked for me.
All the hard work put into 'negative or positive' thinking, IS setting up what will manifest. Flip flopping between the 'negative and positive' thinking, will wipe out all the 'already forming future' events, and will require a new set of 'future forming events' to restart. So, one really should learn to keep a well focused set of 'beliefs' without interuptions, that wipes out those desired forming changes. Some will understand, that which I speak here, and some will scoff at it. Was a steep learning curve to digest and incorporate 'focus' into my experiences.
Be Well
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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2009, 00:05:03 »

Another very interesting thread,

I feel I am on a very similar boat as Goonie and Louis because I too want to change my body (to be taller),
and reading the posts I felt a roller coaster of emotions. Reading some of Louis' posts I felt discouraged because
if he has tried all the things I am trying and still hasn't change maybe it doesn't work and I can't change either.
But then Talkers and other posts give me assurance that I can change and maybe Louis was just not doing it right.

Also I understand why Louis doesn't like some of the posts you see them as saying accept your current problem and move on?
Because I don't like that either I feel like this, is something I have to change, I don't want to accept it. This is
my ultimate validation. After I get the height I want I will know anything is possible.

Also while reading and researching I believe I have found one of my major obstacles to reaching my goal. I read an article
she called it "Secondary Benefit Reversal"  Which basically is you want to achieve your goal but at the same
time you don't because subconciously you believe there are benefits of (being short, not enough hair ... ect) For example
I've been short for a while now that it has become my ultimate excuse. What ever social problems I think I have I can blame on
my height. And I am afraid to get taller and still have those problems and have nothing to blame. For example: what if I get taller and
"I am still not considered attractive", "The girl who I like still doesn't like me back" ... ect. I am sorry my thoughts are really scattered
sorry if that didn't make sense but here is the article: http://www.emofree.com/articles/psychological-reversal.htm

Also wanted to share a possible higher guidance? before I started making money, I felt I had all the tools necessary to make
money and I just needed it all to come together. And finally the opportunity was given. So I was thinking maybe its the same
way with this I have all the tools I just need it to all come together. So I made a txt file titled "All Coming Together" and listed
all the things I have learned and all the tools and things I can do everyday. For example, EFT, read Secret Of the Ages (btw thanks
Talker its a great book), do NEW Energy ways, listen to audios ect... But even tho I made that list the past week or so I have been
procrastinating a lot on the those things, until today. Today I put the "All Coming Together" list and my iPod and for whatever reason
I decided to shorten it by just using the first letter of all three words and I ended up getting ACT. I just thought that was a clear
message from who/what ever telling me to get up off my ass and do the stuff inside the list.

I apologize again my thoughts are very scattered and might not make sense but I just wanted to share.

Thanks for listening. And I hope I was able to help a little.

-Praveen

P.S. - Thanks again Talker for the suggestion to read Secret Of the Ages I love it. From that and Adrian
I am slowly realizing that my outer physical body is a built from the blueprint in our minds. And no
when results are slow instead of doubting that I try to find a reason why the blueprint hasn't changed it.

P.P.S - I am correct in believing that the subconsciousness holds the blueprint and the physical body is an
built exactly on that blueprint right?
Hi Praveen,
You posted while I was almost done with what is just posted.
It answers your question, I believe.
Thank you for the kind words.
Be Well
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« Reply #58 on: June 29, 2009, 00:41:42 »

Yes Talker what you said makes absolute sense to, its like that analogy with the waiter. Not
sure where I saw it probably on this forum or from one of Adrian newsletters.

I think thats exactly what is happening with me, because for example I will visualize being tall
before going to bed and wake up look at myself in the mirror and say I am short. And I am not exactly
sure how to solve that, its not like I can runaway from all mirrors and all people till I become tall.

Also I will put limitations on my self that further validates the negative for example "I can't do ____________
because I am not tall enough"
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« Reply #59 on: June 29, 2009, 10:07:51 »

Yes Talker what you said makes absolute sense to, its like that analogy with the waiter. Not
sure where I saw it probably on this forum or from one of Adrian newsletters.

I think thats exactly what is happening with me, because for example I will visualize being tall
before going to bed and wake up look at myself in the mirror and say I am short. And I am not exactly
sure how to solve that, its not like I can runaway from all mirrors and all people till I become tall.

Also I will put limitations on my self that further validates the negative for example "I can do ____________
because I am not tall enough"
Hi Praveen,
That you are well.
Was the word "I can do " supposed to be "I can't do "!
Regardless, here is your homework for a week or so.
You should impress your inner self (mine is the Babbler) with some theatrics. Some will laugh at what you do, if they see what you are doing. I have posted some about my adventures with doing theatrics, to SHOW my Babbler, what it 'looks and feels' like, to obtain desired results. If a process is not working to ones satisfaction, why not modify, add, or change the process a bit.  In a situation as yours, I would place a marker on the wall behind me, at the height level, I'm currently at. This to establish a reference point for what comes next. So now looking into the mirror, I can actually see how tall I am RIGHT NOW. Have handy a few pieces of anything that's one inch thick or so, and large enough to stand on. Now comes the fun part. Stand ON one of those items, and look into the mirror. Naturally the prior height mark will have disappeared, because you are now taller. Move a bit to one side to allow the original mark to show. Now say what ever delights you, like, "OMG LOOK HOW I'VE GROWN TALLER", and capture that delightful feeling. After a few days of doing this, add another piece to the single stand-on piece. Again look into the mirror, and really turn on the "OMG, I LOVE IT, I'M TWO INCHES TALLER NOW". Do this for a few more days. Be sure to capture and retain that delightful 'new emotion of being tall'. Develope a 'ditty' mantra to enhance the feeling of being tall. Keep it silly like "Wall wall, I've grown tall", (make up more) things of this nature WILL register deep within. So now you have 'emotion, visual, and vocal' added to your situation to grow taller. Waiting in line some place, and 'humming' your ditty '"Wall wall, I've grown tall", brushing the teeth, walking the dog, carrying out the rubbish and where ever, THAT DITTY is always alive and in mind. Your babbler will be kept aware of what is on the schedule, 'TALLER and STILL TALLER', and your babbler does the magic of sending the message to specific organs of your body to make it happen. Don't flip flop, keep it all TALL.
Are you worth it! Do you really want it! So take the steps to make it happen.
Be Well
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