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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 01:30:15 » |
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I think if i change my health state i cud change mi appearence to. i am an ugly individual and i owe it all to bad genetics  . peeple always sayin that i am ugly an never get a girl friend and its because mi health makes me this way. i wish i cud like die and then be reborn on the spot into someone more healthy and hansome, instead of this dweebi ass freak i am today 
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 17:59:25 » |
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Dear Louis and Goonie, By the Energy being sensed in the reading through of both of your thoughts here, you both don't need any 'help' by listening to others put downs about you really. You are beating yourselves up very adequately on your own. If you can talk about and believe about yourself in this way as in I am not ..., you have the ability to talk to yourself in a loving way by affirming yourself and gradually you will feel Love for yourself...your current position has been ingrained into you. You both seem quite capable of making choices to me. I realize that relationships are a very part of our experiencing here yet I have found the necessity to remove myself from ones who try to repeatedly invalidate me as well as by putting me down constantly. Especially when I have asked them to stop. It is sign of their own lack (not enough of something) and it is self abuse that then extends itself to another or all others in their world... I also understand that it is easier said than done until it is done in baby steps, as in being able to get yourself away from those who are not validating by taunting another as inferior (even if they are called 'family or friends'). It is a part of the process of growing into our ability to know by doing for ourself our own validating, not to be arrogant by putting someone down to feel superior but by growing in your confidence of walking in your skin fully and with appreciation. Even if it doesn't seem to be the 'ideal' yet. Louis, the identity crisis you described earlier has been experienced by many others and more than once in ones lifetime and I desire to assure you that this too shall pass and you are gaining a 'clearer' view of who you are by recognizing first who you are not. It takes you down to bare essence in these moments and you realize you are still breathing, Alive. I honestly believe in taking 'breaks' from things for awhile by laying them all aside, you'll know what to do because the desire will make itself known to you. Laying aside perhaps all your mirrors that are removable, truly. Take a break from them. TV shows or magazines that keep you focused on these ideals you wish to look like too. It will reveal to you what your addictions are and thoughts are addictive. We all have them, it is just about choosing ones that bring you a sense of joy and peace. Years ago, a friend shared some affirmations with me that had been given to her. And at first I stumbled over the words, I was 'learning' a new language and it was unlearning my 'native' tongue so to speak. I didn't really comprehend the meanings of the affirmations as in really feeling them at first but now I am sharing from having said them for years and it does change you very subtlely yet very profoundly and will change the way you see yourself and the world around you. I have given these affirmations to others and have InJoyed their feedback by observing how it greatly impacted them and changed their lives wonderfully. My heart's intention is to share with others that you are so much more than you know and to be easy on yourself in the process. We all make it 'home'. Truly. I can only share this because for so long Louis and Goonie, I could not see any value in myself and my life and I was actually fortunate to be told how much value I added to others lives even when I could not see it, they kept saying, 'Julia, you are your own worst enemy, Stop It! It took me awhile and I am still on my way, but I see myself as I once was in your sharing and I see you being as I am in a few years truly or sooner if you choose to see it sooner  ... well on your way to loving yourself more and more each day...that is all I intend when I am sharing. A tool that I placed in my blog to share with any who desire to have some affirmations to begin with on this journey of Self Love back into our self and walking with our heads up, walking in our confidence in our world. I call them the Sacred Prayers and this is a game I am inviting you both to play by just a quick read through and not focusing on the meanings. Give yourself some 'time' to play this game. Once I began, I just kept going with it... I share this to bless you truly and would love to hear back in say, two or three months if not longer if and how in any way you feel about yourself by 'feeding' these ideas to yourself everyday. Louis, I know this one is longer than you like yet my heart just flowed in here for you and Goonie. Take what speaks to you and leave the rest... Love in Spirit, Julia http://www.you-nique-by-design.com/the-story-behind-the-sacred-prayers/
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2009, 20:02:54 » |
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Dear Julia,
I've done Jasmuheen's love breath meditation a few times and I don't look any better. I don't want to be ignorant of my looks. I don't want to have to like myself for no reason as if I'm stoned or something.
Why do all of the "Spiritual" people try to change how I feel about myself and my looks. I don't need to change inside. I'm fine on the inside! I need to change on the outside.
I need to know what should I be doing? Should I be trying to morph? Should I try to move my consciousness to another body? Or should I be trying to move my body to a higher dimension then bringing it back?
I don't even know whats possible or impossible anymore. I remember what Adrian was saying about Suicide. Those who kill themselves find themselves very much alive and still dealing with the problem they had previously. However in these Mind Realms you can look how ever you want so it seems I have a free pass on suicide with no consequences.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2009, 21:12:14 » |
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Dear Louis,
I really am not meaning to make light of what you are going through truly. I am concerned by the energy you are sharing underneath your words and the last line of your statement verifies the energy I have been sensing which is what prompted me to respond.
You are making this very hard on yourself and keepin yourself in a constant spin. The experience you are having in wanting more than anything to change your looks has become an obsession with you. The way you feel about your looks is very similar to ones who obsess over their weight and become anoerexic or bulimic and they have destroyed their bodies by doing this.
They don't see it because when looking at the mirror they see an obese person even when they are 80 something pounds and skin and bones and this obsessed mind is what makes it real on the outside. Which in my honest opinion is what is going on here with you. Wanting to change the outside so much because you have gotten yourself into an inner state of mind that really believes there is something wrong with you because of how you look or don't.
You are way too hard on yourself, and I say this with all sincerity of my heart.
You think by changing your physical looks you would be in a happier state yet this is not necessarily the case Louis. Beauty and good looks are no measures to ones happiness in life. One's attitude is a major attractor of one's life.
If you won't drop this, then use the tools available, it's called Plastic surgery and millions have done it when they cannot get over the idea of reconciling with their looks. They do encourage counseling for people who do this so they can get to the heart of the reason for doing it. So, if this is solely for you to be happy in your mind with yourself, you may want to consider it by not spending any more of your money on what you say is not working for you. Put it towards the way to make it happen. Why does it matter if it's the outside that needs work to you, then use outside ways to have it.
I highly encourage you to be open to receiving some assistance to walk you through why you don't like yourself (using your looks for a reason) because you are focused on it being an 'outside' issue.
May this be received in the genuine hearfelt concern I have for you Louis.
Love in Spirit,
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2009, 21:26:13 » |
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Julia,
I am Obsessed, Guilty. I've been trying to change my body on the Genetic Level since I was Goonies age! Goonie basically is me.
Plastic Surgery, That is disgusting. Even if nothing goes wrong its still not "real". I want a very different body, completely different and I wont settle for any other plastic Surgeon then god (the Tao). It must be at the Molecular level, no plastics involved.
Death and rebirth, without loosing my memory.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 23:24:05 » |
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Hi Louis,
Obsessed yes, I can agree with you on this but definitely not viewed as guilty in my eyes! You are being honest with yourself.
I mentioned plastic surgery because this procedure is based on one being very physically focused and seems to be in line as an answer to where your obsession is being focused on in it being a physically related matter. There are many who have had this done because of accidents and such and this does not make them any less spiritual then another who cannot get over not liking something about their physical looks. They use the tools available in the moment.
Just playing a what if with you. What if you are receiving you answer from Tao? As in Louis, drop this one, are you willing to let it go and pursue other areas of experience for right now? Take your mind off this area for awhile...
There is a whole lot more to you than your physical looks. Which in my honest opinion, you are a very handsome man. You have an amazingly, wonderfully curious mind Louis and are very resourceful.
Oh the places you canl go if you allow yourself to remain open to having more than just one ride here...
I love you Brother,
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 00:50:41 » |
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i hate plastic surgery. its fake and i dont want no fake body. i want a natural body.
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2009, 10:47:12 » |
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Hi Goonie, Plastic surgery is not a consideration for me either. That's just me however because I am not obssessed about the way I look. I am not one to stand constantly in front of a mirror looking for 'changes'. Which has created some humorous moments when running out to do errands.  i hate plastic surgery. its fake and i dont want no fake body. i want a natural body.
You already have a natural body Goonie. You just keep telling it how much you dislike it and it is responding to what you are constantly re-inforcing into it by your self-talk based on your self thoughts. Real beauty from my observation throughout life is radiant energy you can see and feel when you are present with ones who have become comfortable with who they are.Their confidence is self sustained. They are inferior and superior to no one and see it this way in all others whether others see it this way or not. Their beauty is a not of this world's idea of beauty. I call it an ethereal beauty and a very natural one. Would it really 'hurt' you or Louis to be open to 'trying' it in a different way? By just seeing for yourself if by doing affirming thoughts daily with yourself might actually change the way you are seeing yourself? Just asking... Are you open to changing the way you have done it, if it doesn't seem to be working out for you? Changing the energy of your thoughts? On your side more than you know, Love to you both, Julia
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2009, 11:33:39 » |
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Dear Julia,
I've done Jasmuheen's love breath meditation a few times and I don't look any better. I don't want to be ignorant of my looks. I don't want to have to like myself for no reason as if I'm stoned or something.
Why do all of the "Spiritual" people try to change how I feel about myself and my looks. I don't need to change inside. I'm fine on the inside! I need to change on the outside.
I need to know what should I be doing? Should I be trying to morph? Should I try to move my consciousness to another body? Or should I be trying to move my body to a higher dimension then bringing it back?
I don't even know whats possible or impossible anymore. I remember what Adrian was saying about Suicide. Those who kill themselves find themselves very much alive and still dealing with the problem they had previously. However in these Mind Realms you can look how ever you want so it seems I have a free pass on suicide with no consequences.
Hello Forum Family, Have watched and did post some here in this topic. Very interesting to read, as I see expenditure of valuable energy, relating to failed results. I at one time, was a skinny toothpick like teen ager. Very unsatisfied with my physical looks in comparison with other kids, my age at those times. My experiences ran all over the gamut of good, bad, rotten, poor me, up yours. Was a period of time where bitch and complain helped fill my daily activities. Oh I did have fun, some days were great. Just didn't like the toothpick look that was my body. Was just coming into awareness in those early teens, through certain article reading, that one 'could alter their looks and physique with 'positive thinking' and certain exercises. Scant as the reading material was, I was highly impressed, but my efforts were very minimally productive. When I first came across the book 'Secret of The Ages', I was impressed, but very skeptical of all the beautiful things that were mentioned, that could be 'mine'. (my blog posts cover those days) Anyway, I finally started to realize that I wasn't being picked on by a pissed off God. Little by little with doubt, fear, unhappiness my constant companion, I started overcoming those messy emotions. Little by slow, with certain exercises, I started getting strong, but still with toothpick arms and a slightly larger chest. When I came across a booklet on jujitsu, wow, I started to put exercise and jujitsu together in a manner that was showing better overall results. I adopted little tricks to cause hurt to another, when forced to defend myself. Eventually and most times, I could now walk by some guys normally, and NOT have to fight them in order to pass by. Great feeling. So is it possable to go from poor physical circumstances to better physical ones! Absolutely, it can be done. Roughly it took me only three months at that time, and my conditions were much more to my liking. One paragraph in a booklet mentioned that one needs to stand in front of a mirror and 'admire and thank ones body' for all the changes taking place'. At first it was a silly disbelief, as no changes were being seen. But the first time I 'SAW' some muscle definition showing, I started 'thanking' that reflection in the mirror with more conviction. ................................... Nothing But The Truth Blog # 24 Talker on Big Muscles Are Overrated Ah yes, those days when arm wrestling and plain horsing around were every day occurrences, whether at work or play. Fun fist fights just for the sheer joy of it. Wrestling and rolling in the grass, dirt and at times a spot a dog walker didn't pick up. Recall, reluctantly arm wrestling a shorter than I, and almost skinny guy. Gads, it was pow and I was pinned. Found out later, this gent shoved coal all day for the coal fired locomotive in the railroad yard. Another incident was with a tad taller and huskily built farm gent that part timed, with us, in the electrical trade. Anyway this gent had me in a around my arm's bear hug, lifted up into the air, my feet not touching the floor, and shaking me like a rag toy. Our coworkers were making bets on who would physically poop out first. I wasn't the favorite. Well, it was getting hard to breathe and my ribs were squawking with hurt. So with some effort managed to inhale some air, wiggle downward, wrap my arms around ‘his’ body and start pulling, and drove my chin into the rib cage top by the shoulder joint and pushed. It took about ten seconds and this gent was now yelling for me to ’stop’ hurting him. Yeah, I learnt that big muscles were nice to look at, but didn't always win the battle. There are more stories, but for now…….. (Get the rest of the story here) http://thetalker.org/archives/417/24-talker-on-are-big-muscles-overrated/
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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2009, 12:26:54 » |
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Here is the link this weeks Our Ultimate Reality Newsletter. http://www.ourultimatereality.com/newsletters/030509.pdfIf your browser supports the displaying of PDF files you may read the newsletter online, but I suggest that you download the PDF file to to your PC to keep for future reference. You can do this by right-clicking the link and selecting "save target as... This may vary according to your browser type. If you are experiencing difficulties either loading the PDF or opening the links within the PDF I highly recommend installing Foxit Reader: http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/reader/download.php
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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2009, 12:49:20 » |
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Thank you Talker and perfect,  Talker, what a wonderful way of sharing the baby steps progression that leads one into quantum leaps of faith in bringing the body, mind, soulSpirit together as One in moving between the energy fields as One Being. I appreciate you sharing your wonderful stories. Thank you! perfect, thank you for sharing Adrian's wonderful newsletter as a reminder of what we are sharing here in Unity along with him while singing a Unique Voice of harmony in the Universal Song of Life. Love to All, Julia
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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2009, 19:42:09 » |
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Dear Julia,
Plastic Surgery is out of the question. Even if I could have good results with it I'd feel gross and not real like Goonie said. If I met a good looking guy and later on found out he had plastic surgery done I would NOT be attracted to him. It wouldn't work. I couldn't have the confidence if it was I who got surgery done. Not to mention its WAY to expensive. Its a million times more likely that I'll find some power of the mind to have my desires then making a few hundred thousands of dollars to be fake. My mind just isn't geared towards making money!
However if I found out that a really good looking nice guy somehow acquired a new body I wouldn't think hes "fake" anymore then anyone else since we all had past lives!
Plastic surgery will not offer me the solution I seek for another reason. I'm obsessed with a particular image. Plastic surgeons say they can't preform miracles and that's what a lot of people expect when they seek the help of plastic surgery. There are celebrities (you know the ones) that just can't get enough plastic Surgery. In there minds they want a image that Surgery just can't give them and its never enough. Julia you know one of my issues is hair loss. Surgical treatments for hair loss look FAR from flattering. They have to continuously go back to get more treatments and they still look bald! No one who got hair transplants look like they have the full head of hair of a teenager. Considering how much the paid you'd think they'd be the best looking people in the world!
Talker in Julia the way I think about my body has NOTHING to do with it. Lots of people Julia as you say "I am not obsessed about the way I look" don't worry about they way they look and send there bodies love. However they don't necessarily look better then the super model who says "I'm fat, I'm ugly". Waking-Conscious thoughts have nothing to do with the way you look otherwise if someone thinks about the color blue they would turn blue! The way you feel has nothing to do with it either. I looked a the person that has my ideal body so much that I often feel like I am him but it don't look like him at the time.
Julia.. Talker.. if you love me stop trying to change my mind. This is something I want a million times more then anything else. I will accomplish my goals one way or another, it seems that someone else might accomplish my objectives for me.
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« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2009, 20:25:04 » |
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Dear Louis,  I think I understand very well your yearning. In some ways we are very similar... or well there was a time when I had the burning desire you talk about. I have a question though. Tell me why do you want so badly to look good? I mean the most profound truth about your reason. Discarding all reasons that are just surface words..at deep down level why is it so important for you to look good? What will that accomplish?  (I come back because I need to write about 2 beautiful people. Farah and Michael. Remembering when they started to become celebrities. Louis they were good looking, very good looking ... and now they are just gone. They both had a purpose to serve with their beauty. )
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« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2009, 21:13:50 » |
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Open Letter to Source, Dear Source, Am reading pleas in a forum I participate in, and in a certain topic called ' Re: i asked, now im beggin!!! ' that has me confused. There are posts that ask for suggestions on how to change, alter or modify certain outward physical conditions. A number of suggestions were offered with love, and were either discounted or taken as another wanting to force change on the them. When you sent me messages through various sources in response to my pleas for help, and while I was hard to convince, you lovingly kept the channels open and flowing. Eventually I gave in to at least stop fighting back against reasonable offerings. The one I appreciated most, was that 'all changes commence from within'. The other eye opener was the message 'if you can't accept the full bouquet of miracles sent, at least try any one of them'. I apologize for even hesitating all those years, before daring to try even one from the full bouquet of miracles sent. Sure am glad you didn't just 'throw up' and stop the offerings. Oh yeah, you must of laughed a few times at how I reluctantly 'tried' some things. Not aware of it, but did you weep at my hurting, while I held in my hands the very keys to spiritual and physical betterment! Thanks for keeping those prompts going. Now back to the issue at hand. Can you assist me in understanding my motives here! Am I butting in where I perhaps should not be butting in with what worked for me! Help me to understand why one would ask for assistance, and upon getting a few suggestions, promptly tell the ones making the offers, to butt out and stop! I'm very perplexed with this situation, and would appreciate your answer, ASAP. Thank You
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