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« Reply #135 on: November 02, 2009, 22:38:13 »

Yes the Pranic energy. It's getting colder here and everything is dieing. There isn't very much life force in the winter time. No wonder people who live in cold climates don't live as long.
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« Reply #136 on: November 07, 2009, 21:54:36 »

let me ask it straight forward. are we unlimited beings or not??
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« Reply #137 on: November 08, 2009, 07:36:06 »


let me ask it straight forward. are we unlimited beings or not??



What are your natural thoughts on this G? I say natural because 'normal' is one word yours truly dropped and uses very seldomly in her vocabulary ...

and a tag question, 'What is the purpose of asking this question'? Truly. As one kid to another, whatcha doin' G?

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« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2009, 11:50:45 »

Yeah G! What she said.
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« Reply #139 on: November 08, 2009, 14:31:23 »


Normal is the surrender of originality
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« Reply #140 on: November 08, 2009, 22:07:57 »

wat wuz the purpose for asking. bein fed up, thats wat. meetin people constantly tellin stories of this and that with no real physical evidance. its like peeple will say anythin wen their excited or watever. i want to know are we for real or are we just assuming all this. i have been practicing everything since i came here and still nothing, yet we are infinite. i worked on my emotions, my surrounds, tried meditation, everything. nothing has changed. i am still the same as i was wen i came here. its over!! peeple need to wake up and realize there is nothing special here and no god to cry on its shoulder and fix all problems. sum of us hav it good sum of us dont. sum of us are born healthy, like adrian and sum are not like me. its just the way it is! there is no mind, no thoughts cause all of this, it just is. i didnt ask to hav this life, but it had me and now i suffer with it. a head full of dreams and no hope. can any of yous understand whats thats like??
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« Reply #141 on: November 09, 2009, 01:46:16 »

Hi G, smiley

As I read your response here, the idea that your happiness is a choice can be very annoying when you are feeling anything but.

Each and everyone of us at some place in our life experience's being imprisoned by our life. Truth. Not all of us have the same issues as in health and physical looks, money, upbringing yet we all share a common goal in life and it is to be happy. Most just don't have the skills or know how to do this especially when facing what seems like unsurmountable odds.

All I am asking you to explore within yourself G, is this. You feel the way you feel right now and have for awhile. Has feeling this way, uhappy, made you any more effective in dealing with these issues? Sometimes our unhappiness is our 'tool' to getting what we want from others. We can manipulate people with a sad face mentality and I am saying this honestly because I use to do this too.

And the one thing that is really 'true' if we are honest with ourselves is that it does come down to being about me. As in you, me, the next person. How is that Julia? Have you ever felt genuine Love for someone and recall doing something for them that showed that you Love them, and notice How did it make you feel? It really comes down to understanding that the loving things that we do for others is because of how good it makes us feel and we just want to keep feeling this way. The other person has nothing to do with how I feel. No one 'makes' us feel anyway, we choose to allow others to affect our feelings and this becomes more and more clear the more you stay focused on paying attention to these things.

Happiness eluded me for many years even with applying Spiritual principles. And I have come to find in a meandering sort of way that until we really understand our Human side and make friends with it by loving it and accepting it, it keeps us from allowing our Spirit to fill us up and feel IT in us. It seems to elude us even more. As I took a long look at my life, I began to get clearer on seeing myself. As I noticed my patterns, My choices were becoming more clear and how I was choosing not others outside of me, this takes years for some of us to get. Until you really come to Love and Accept yourself the way you are right now, you will not find happiness. It will continue to elude you. Because without these two things, you cannot dwell in your space as being in a safe environment where you feel you can safely open up and explore yourself and Become yourself.

My nature was happy go lucky as a child yet it was buried through years of hearing how much 'power' I had on my family's happiness by making them miserable. In other words experiencing how unhappy I made them. This created a deeply buried guilt by transfering ones owning their own emotions and creating this feeling responsible for all others happiness and when this did not happen, guess what? Yes, depression set in at having failed to 'make' another happy. I was not being a 'good' girl.

Does choosing to be happy guarantee that I won't have any challenging life circumstances come my way? Not at all. But being unhappy did not change the circumstance in fact it seemed to lengthen the duration of it, by choosing to be happy I have peace where once before I had no peace. And the circumstances come and go irregardless. I am not miserable anymore because of my life circumstances. The norm is to be unhappy really. Just look around you. And anyone who is happy is considered suspect or la la. Interesting. Misery loves company idea.

I grew up when I could see this from an adult perspective. Being an adult has no bearing on ones age truly.

We tend to think that we must 'do' something to deserve or earn our right to be happy. We can choose to BE Happy as well as we choose to be unhappy. Where does this thought of having to earn it or deserve it by doing something come from? This is asking a non-judgmental question to ourselves about any of our beliefs that are self defeating. And asking myself, what is my answer to that?

Pay attention to what you are hearing in your environment. Does anyone ever say, 'you make me mad, sad, angry, sick, crazy?' If you really pay attention to this, what is being said is that you have so much power and control over another's feelings. Is this true? Are you making them all these things or are these their views of how they see what is going on around them?

The same applies to you and me, you are still in the practicing of gaining ground, I will say that it is a never-ending process because it is a Life long process, as long as you have breath G.  So, even though your circumstances may not be ideal right now, there is one thing that only you can 'control' and that is the attitude that you choose to see your life from. No one in here or anywhere you may go to find it can do this for you and this is why you have not found it yet. What you seek for can only be found in you. Your own Love and Acceptance of you. Perhaps this is your theme in life lessons and why you are experiencing this so when you do reach this and get it, your story will have such an impact on those whom you will hear sounding just like you did right now, only you will see it from a changed perspective as your beliefs change. As you grow into your Self Love and Self Acceptance. This is the key for anyone truly G. There is no other way in.

Ask yourself why you feel you cannot be happy the way you are in your life right now. And as you list out your reasons again, ask yourself if the unhappiness you have inside has changed them one iota. If not, why not choose to be happy in them. It is a choice. This is not saying pretend to be something you are not. You do have the ability to choose happiness as easily as you do unhappiness. I can be unhappy and miserable the way I am or I can be happy the way I am.

You have said, you cannot be happy the way I am. In other words you really do believe somewhere in you that your happiness in life has to be earned or deserved by doing something in this case, to your body to be able to experience being Loved and Accepted by yourself. You are rejecting yourself while at the same time expecting the Love and Acceptance to show up in some miraculous way 'outside' of you. In all honesty when you reach the end of your ways of thinking about life and give up your old self made up thoughts, that is when space is created to allow new perception and beliefs to come in.

I honestly feel that you have yet to ask yourself the key questions that will unlock your understanding of yourself. Knowing why you believe what you believe. What shaped your beliefs this far? This is a part of the process and while it can be frustrating, it will lead you to continue on this Journey because the world really does continue to expand as we grow, if we are open to seeing it.

Getting Clear on our purpose, building up by understanding the beliefs we are creating and making up to bring our purpose to life, breathing our passion into it and then demonstrating it by our actions. Now we have a solid foundation on which to remain persistent in reaching our dreams.

We give up our dreams too easily. We do not show up for ourselves. And this is what leads many to live lives of quiet desperation. Don't stop G. How many steps Julia? As many as it takes G.

I know, too long and don't wanna hear it Julia, yet G, you are on your path and will reach the other shore. Your faith is being sorely tested my friend and I do trust that even should you throw it out in moments, it has a funny way of boomeranging back..

Holding hands in this, while I cannot change your attitude or circumstances, I can share my Light right now and say, I have faith in you G.

Much Genuine Love and Peace being extended your way,

Julia

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« Reply #142 on: November 09, 2009, 07:41:01 »

Quote from: Value Your Light
You spill so much life force being angry at the way you look the way your life has been, and the cards and the card game that you have been dealt. You look at each other with pointed thoughts and sharp words. Your eyes go green and your heart grows cold as you view another who has obtained a little more light, a little more beauty, a little more self confidence – not because they were born with it, but because they have the gift and ability to see those beautiful qualities in others.

The only way to claim your beauty and your wealth and your love is to see it in others. For the world mirrors your own reflection. If you do not feel worthy and prosperous, you see that in your own reflection. It is important to address and see the magic of someone winning your lottery games. Congratulate them energetically and send them love as they have energetically earned this monetary gift. See the true energetic value of your home and your car.

Do not focus on the thought of depreciate but instead focus on the thought appreciate. Allow what you have ownership of to gain value through you. You gain value when you see the value of others. You gain your beauty when you see the beauty of others. And you gain your wealth when you are not jealous of someone doing well, but rejoice in their good fortune. For their good fortune means that your good fortune is right around the next corner, the next thought. Every minute of every day you too shall be blessed if you quietly bless others.

When you see others around you falling deeply in love you too have the opportunity to gain love. The world reflects you. If you are attracting those who were down in the dumps, sad and desperate, look at your own vibration and shift your energy. Change the way you see the world and you will change yourself. Compliment others on their beauty. Compliment them on their beautiful energy each and every day. The inhabitants of Earth have stopped complimenting each other, honoring each other and it shows in earth's aura.

Gain entrance to the kingdom of light through valuing everything on earth. When you toss away something that is old and broken and you love it not anymore, the energy of earth squeezes itself shut in sadness. When you look at something that once had value to you and you choose to release with love the energy of earth opens up in joy. Value your light and your life and the monumental creation that you are. There are not any other species like you. You are a singular creation of the House of Light. The Creator has never created another species like you. That is why you are given charge over the angels, because you are grand in preparation. You are grand in thought and the heart’s desires of the Creator placed into one sphere, into one energy, and into one body.
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« Reply #143 on: November 09, 2009, 13:27:38 »

LOL Obvious responses, this is exactly wat im sayin though. u still dont get it do u? yall think it is all about looks, money, fame , beauty, sex and the whole 9 with me dont u. i pretty much givin up on my looks and i dont care much for anything other then my health at this point. im ugly.. so wat! im poor.. so wat! i was born this way guess ill die this way, who cares!! wat i am talkin about is this so called infinite power we supposedly hav. being made of atoms doesnt make u infinite! the ability to think doesnt make u infinite! and my thoughts doesnt shape my life, my life shaped my thoughts. my experiences is wat lead me to my beliefs, not the other way around. u think i want to be this way? if i did why wud i bitch over it? why wud i fill my head with thoughts and esires i dont want? im constantly dreaming of a better life and my dreams are pleasent. there are not sickness, drama, conflicts, and poverty in my dreams. Its all love, beauty, wealth, and happiness. this is wat i focus on. this is wat i want. these are my thoughts. u tell me my thoughts are bad? thats why my life is like this. HA! make sense please!! as if i needed to think how screwed up i am. wats to think about, really rolleyes
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« Reply #144 on: November 09, 2009, 14:03:38 »

Adonis,

The reason for the question is because you are still arent seeing yourself for what you truly are Adonis... you are seeing a form. You are not seeing behind the veil.

Energy can take the form of a table or glass of water or a human...

An apple thinks its an apple until it gets crushed up in a horses mouth... now the 'apple" still exists, but is it existing as an apple anymore? At some point the universe will crush our bodies and we will become meat for its table the same way the apple becomes meat for the horses body and turns into "energy"...among other things...lol, and even those others things end up providing more energy for the earth to blossom.

All of these people who say "I can beat age"... you stop hearing from them about the time they turn 60 or 70...

It is nature, and all of life's lessons can be found observing it... an apple does not exist forever as an apple even if you take the best care of it, eventually it's time to "turn" comes.

Try to avoid that one, and the whole world will think you are greater than David Copperfield... in this day and age with media being as powerful as it is... if there were one person who could never age, they would be a celebrity right now and under microscopes in front of the whole world.

This is your body in this human form and this is what it can do

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This is your "energy body now, and your energy body is eternal and never changes, only takes on different forms.

That's my take... If anybody knows a 300 year old person let me know so I can re examine my beliefs. Lets get real here, understanding how to deal reality is empowering. I have often told my daughter that there is never a time in life when obstacles will be all gone, or difficulties stop...there are always issues...eventually one learns , after wearing themselves out every other way, that the key is "[erception" ie; "not how do I erase all of lifes difficulties, but rather "how do I learn to cope with them better in a way that is peaceful and non obtrusive".

Life is in your mind my friend. Living without resistence is like this "stop resisting".

Ah the authenticity is in rare form today.


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« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2009, 14:17:09 »

Hmm ... screwed up? huh

Those are not my thoughts G.

I use to 'think' in my head that I was 'screwed up' too until I started 'listening' to my Heart more and my head less. Shifting my focus.

This is another, I am going through this and nothing you say will get me out of it idea. What Julia?

Your opening statement G. OBVIOUS Responses. Hmm. Okay and is your response here obvious as to what angle you are seeing all this from?

It seems you are trying to reinvent the wheel here my friend because you are not open to hearing from myself or others whom have felt that life sucked and yet we came to find out that we had another choice to view life from. And while there are those here who do not respond I have a deep sensing that they do understand who is not understanding whom here.

I've been there G, hating my life and wanting it to get better. I just want to feel good inside feelings that's all and now I do. You are not showing that you feel good inside and all I am saying is that this is not the only way to feel about life. You have more than one choice in life.

We live like we believe we have one 'stinking' choice in life. Misery. Life being served in the exact same way, same meal day in and day out. Is this true?

I did not say your thoughts are bad, I suggested that you pay attention to the thoughts around you and in you and ask non-judgmental questions. Non-judgmental being in the dropping of the bad or good for a moment. Just a where did this idea come from? How did I reach this conclusion here about myself and life? Where did the seeds of this belief begin from?

As in, I have to be this way to make others happy. Has thinking this brought me what I want? No. Okay, now where did this idea that I have to make 'others' happy come from? That is not saying you are screwed or or bad G.

These ideas are actually very InPowering when we begin to apply them. This is not about dreaming so much, this about the tools we already have to use to make our dreams come true. That's all. When Inner Knowing is leading the outer demonstration and not the other way around.

Choices is what we are all given. This is what freewill is. You are free to believe anyway you want truly. You are not limited by your current life situations except in your thoughts. Our thoughts hold us prisoner and we cut ourselves off from listening to our Hearts. Our Hearts are what keep us taking one more step into making our dreams our reality because this is where our 'true' belief in ourselves comes from. We just let our head thoughts get in the way of our Internal Knowing.

Just go back and read the last two posts you have written only view it as you are reading someone elses thoughts, remove yourself from being the one who wrote it for a moment and then write your own response here. What would you say to someone here who wrote this G?

I am genuinely asking you here, not to incite your anger truly.

Hanging in here with you,

Love and Peace extending your way,

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« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2009, 17:53:29 »

I never really stated that it wuz u jullian in particular that said my thoughts were bad. it was a general statement to all those that have been saying that. the whole ur life is bad cause u believe it is bit. ur life is bad cuz ur thoughts are, no my thoughts are bad cause my life is. i dont understand why people can see the oppisite. u want me to put myself in anothers shoe and view my post as if sum 1 else have written it. how can i do that feeling the way i do? i wud probably agree with that person. how many people other then u and wavepsychic have actually did this for me? wavepsychic might be the closes to know what im goin thru. i cant say that for sure since im sure u all have had ur own dramas in life and obticles. im sure of it, as to the way everyone responds.

Im not really tryin to make this complicated anymore with the whole trying to understand bit. as of now i couldnt care less about the way i look. dress me in rags for all i care, throw mud in my face - heck i been in hell for 16 yers i can go another 16 if need be. i hav to dig myself out of this hole, yea i get. all I am trying to figure out now is this whole inifinte power thing everyone keeps fussin about. i get tire of here things people cant prove. all i care for now is infitie health without drugs. tired of poppin pills and gettin shots. tired of allergies, tired of life for that matter!!
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« Reply #147 on: November 10, 2009, 01:00:17 »

Hi G, smiley

You know, this is where ones can become uncomfortable with another. As in what do you say or what can you say when one is dealing with physical challenges on a daily basis?

I can sense your weariness in reading your genuine expression here. And this may not help at all but I just want to say to you that I see your determined Spirit and I admire this in you truly. And my Heart is sending Loving Compassion and Blessings of Peace your way and for your mom. I mean this with all genuineness of my Heart G. May you both receive Divine strength to assist you.

So much goes unanswered in life for us all and yet when it is a physical challenge it is difficult to not focus on it. In my Heart I know that yes you are an Infinite Being and this relates to our Spirit. Our bodies are housing our Spirit and this can be difficult to see how our Spirit fits together with the physical when our body seems to be going away from what we desire to see it as and I am speaking of being healthy here.

I was not intending in anyway to make light of your circumstances G. You have such stamina to go through 16 years of this already. I have read your loving thoughts about your mom and this is what I was saying as in being able to foccus more on seeing the glimpses of happiness in your life and your mom is one Loving Light and example. My Heart is with her as a parent and what a parent desires for their child. Your mom is blessed to have you G as you are her.

I wish I could change this for you without having to do all these things just to function. Truly. That you are 16 and doing these things speaks so Highly of you. That is my Heart's intention with you. To see that you are Powerful and have traveled a long road already, and in going through this G, you have far more insight than those of your age group.

I just don't want to see you grow into an attitude of remaining bitter with life and situations like these have within them the ability to make us bitter. It is understandbale to be frustrated, tired of physically dealing with this or feel angry or bitter in moments. It's just that so often we 'forget' that being happy is also a choice that we can choose as well in the mix of our emotions and yet it seems to be the one that eludes us the most, we seem to reach for it last because we somehow believe it is not within our reach until our life circumstances changed. Like we wait for it to come later or put off finding it in the life experience we are having until something in our life changes. We do spend so much of our lives allowing ourself to be controlled by our circumstances and this is not an easy thing to conquer yet it is possible. I intended to share options and possibilities with you in the midst of your circumstances and yet I do know G, that I do not have the power to change another, I can only show up for another. So, however way it may have come out, here I am G, showing up for you because I do see you and I again, I admire your strong Spirit.

I am keeping you in Faith in the Inner Chambers G. May you be blessed with peaceful rest tonight.

Much Love flowing your way,

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« Reply #148 on: November 10, 2009, 22:01:52 »

Lil brother you should pay very close attention to what is being said to you. Do not assume anything and do not jump to unsolved conclusions. The whole notion of us being unlimited and infinite stems from the fact that we are of the most infinite and unlimited creation in existence; the Source/ God - whatever it is to you. You were created from infinite power and intelligence, so on some level we must be omnipotent. On what level that is? I can only take a guess and say it is on a spiritual level. But being infinite on a spiritual level doesn't really make you any less infinite on a physical level. Everything physical, including physical experiences are expressions of their spiritual aspect. Therefore, you must experience unlimited power first on the spiritual level to get a better understanding or feeling of whats it like.

Every level of existence are govern but its own laws too. The laws of the physical world may not allow you to express so easily your infinite powers. You will have to find ways to break the boundaries (the so called laws of the physical universe) and use the more natural laws governed by Source, to your advantages in order to express your Omnipotent abilities.

Also, this is not something that can be explained so easily to you Goonie. This is something better understood through experience. Words will only carry your understanding so far, and then leave you hanging to put the pieces together yourself. The only thing I can tell you is to completely embrace the books you have. You have SOB right, and the KTP manual right. Those are good enough to get you on your way. Only with alot of practice, determination, will, and patients will you get what you want.

No more complaining goonie!! I told you to get to work didnt I. I am your general now boy, not get to work - Move Move Move!! LOL grin
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« Reply #149 on: November 11, 2009, 23:44:23 »

So are u sayin that the only level we are truely infinite at is on the spirit level. wait, it doesnt matter anymore cuz im done with all this anyway. too much talk and not enough help.

so general baki u say stick wit the sob and ktp manuals then. ok i will, ill just take watever i get and FORCE myself to be happy wit it even though i wont be.
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