i asked, now im beggin!!!

[Goonie]

okay ive asked before how can i express perfect health and didnt get much baq. now im beggin if it wud make a difference..

HOW DA HE11 CAN I EXPERIENCE PERFECT HEALTH!!

[Loraine Connon]

Attend to every moment as if it were the only moment, always aware "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a sick society"

With best intent
Loraine

[zensunni7]

Perfect health?

I believe perfection is a state of change, not a fixed point or a goal even. It is the ability to change and adapt to any given situation and circumstance. I agree with Loraine - it is not healthy to adapt to a culture or society that judges itself sick and dysfunctional and continues on the same path - nor an individual that does the same thing.
Self perception is the key and your thoughts about being ill. I do not know what type of illness your talking of, or if your just talking of general health. But no matter - the results are the same.

Do yo do things and think thoughts that focus on your health or your illness? Even a person with cancer has a larger percentage of their body that is working well, organs that are functioning with health and vitality. Actions that tell your biology that you care about it as much as Soul and spirit?
Yoga, meditation, any action  tells the biology that you love and respect it, working out, walking.
Keeping healthy thinking on your mind has great and immediate responses in health and mind.
If I have something specific wrong I will get a diagnosis, and then research the areas effected, look at anatomy charts, get to know the body's inner look and design, the organs and so on, so when I meditate I can visualize it with accuracy and precision to see it healthy and healed. Just taking a few moments in your day to honor and visualize good health has amazing results.

Spiritual people often ignore their bodies, especially in the beginning of their search into spirit. The body resents being mistreated and ignored. I am not of the belief that the body is simply a vehicle and a ' throw away ' item when were done here. Such an inner attitude can create many problems with it. Such attitudes projected towards your person by another person would leave you feeling unloved and cared about, and resentful and angry, so to the biology of life within you feels the same. All life in our inner Universe is aware, and responds to your thoughts and feelings.

I hope this offers some insight.

Darrell


 

[Talker]

okay ive asked before how can i express perfect health and didnt get much baq. now im beggin if it wud make a difference..

HOW DA HE11 CAN I EXPERIENCE PERFECT HEALTH!!

Perfect health?

I believe perfection is a state of change, not a fixed point or a goal even. It is the ability to change and adapt to any given situation and circumstance. I agree with Loraine - it is not healthy to adapt to a culture or society that judges itself sick and dysfunctional and continues on the same path - nor an individual that does the same thing.
Self perception is the key and your thoughts about being ill. I do not know what type of illness your talking of, or if your just talking of general health. But no matter - the results are the same.

Do yo do things and think thoughts that focus on your health or your illness? Even a person with cancer has a larger percentage of their body that is working well, organs that are functioning with health and vitality. Actions that tell your biology that you care about it as much as Soul and spirit?
Yoga, meditation, any action  tells the biology that you love and respect it, working out, walking.
Keeping healthy thinking on your mind has great and immediate responses in health and mind.
If I have something specific wrong I will get a diagnosis, and then research the areas effected, look at anatomy charts, get to know the body's inner look and design, the organs and so on, so when I meditate I can visualize it with accuracy and precision to see it healthy and healed. Just taking a few moments in your day to honor and visualize good health has amazing results.

Spiritual people often ignore their bodies, especially in the beginning of their search into spirit. The body resents being mistreated and ignored. I am not of the belief that the body is simply a vehicle and a ' throw away ' item when were done here. Such an inner attitude can create many problems with it. Such attitudes projected towards your person by another person would leave you feeling unloved and cared about, and resentful and angry, so to the biology of life within you feels the same. All life in our inner Universe is aware, and responds to your thoughts and feelings.

I hope this offers some insight.

Darrell

Hello To All,
Wonderful subject here, and getting more interesting as the thoughts flow.
I never subscribed to the views of a 'disregard the body' and condemnations of it.
Each and every one of us, is proceeding according to the HighSelfs plan. That some are fighting body problem conditions, in what ever manner, I believe, is part and parcel of the 'HighSelfs' plan, to gain specific physical experiences.
From my 'normal insanity' point of view, it makes sense. Why else would one come to earth and go through the vast 'good- not good-and the horrific' experiences encountered! As I've stated here in the forum and in my blogs, 'one preplans physical experiences before birth. Now I'm unable to verify that at this point, but logically it does make sense. The very belief, that 'nothing happens by chance' means either 'Source' is pounding the needle under ones fingernail, and if Source is not doing it, who is! Well that leaves only 'US' and the rest of the world. Along the same theme then, if we 'created the circumstances' we can also 'change' them. Is that not what all the 'efforts' toward the 2012 event is all about! Change in the 'thinking' process, and toward treatment of Earth and the Universe with respect. You can't have it both ways, either 'Source' is torturing us, or 'We' are torturing ourselves. The very word 'torturing' is rather extreme, perhaps it needs to be 'We are testing ourselves'. to see if we can fully experience physical life, and overcome life's delicious, yet at times questionable offerings. So, we left our Spiritual, and perfect home, and left it by choice, to experience all flavors of emotions, and from how I view it, is what we are now getting. That we messed it up is not the fault of Source, but our inappropriate manifesting.
Anyway, that is the only thing that makes any kind of sense to me.
Be Well

[Baki Hanma]

You know Goonie I use to wonder the same thing. After reading Adrians posts on perfect and how he expresses it, I to wanted to have perfect health. I know it is difficult to realise something that your not conscious of or experiencing but in order to have anything you must accept that you already have it regardless of what you are currently percieving.

Also great can also come as a by product of something else like taking great care of your body, working out, eating right, keeping positive emotions, balancing your energy structure by undergoing Chi Kung or other similar practices.

Im telling you, grab that science of being book. Get the 27 lesson version. The star exercise may do wonders for you man.

[wavepsychic]

I do not think any of you that try to help Goonie understands what he is taking about. Cancer is not something even close to what he is talking about. Cancer is something that you get from eating Meat and Dairy for long periods of time. Its curable through diet.

Goonie is talking about something wrong with his blue print that makes him less healthy then others. Since hes been feeling this way for so long he has a yearning to be super man now.

You're advice will do Goonie no good. Day dreaming doesn't change the body. Trust me on this one I'm a Master at day dreaming/visualization. Its all I do just to get by living in this unideal world.

Just know that I am suffering in my body too if it makes you feel better.

[zensunni7]

Daydreaming is not whats said here - if that is your daily thought pattern, then yes, it will not help you or anyone else. Perhaps your discomforts originate in your " unideal '' world you express as a perspective of your life view.
You cannot say that the advice here will not benefit him, unless of course you are dictating his results form the information being provided. Advice comes form relating experiences, and those offering their experiences have proven you wrong in the perspective.
You looked into all those words and found the ones you disagreed with, and related your own lack of success to others.
I assure you the things expressed have been deeply field tested with results. Cancer is caused by many things, but primarily the belief that you will get it from one source or another. The little ' warning ' on cigarette packs causes more cancer than the actual smoking does.

Darrell

[Goonie]

wat i can agree here is wat wavepsychic is sayin. i do believe he is the closes here that can relate to me and him bein older means he know wat it is like living like this longer then i do.

i want a new body cuz i hate the one i have. it gets hurt too easily, i bleed easily i mean give me a cut and leave me alon for abot 30 minuts an i bleed to death. i have serious heart palputations, possible faily kidneys, an achs an pains all over. the aches an pains dont last long but they cum often. i feel like mi granpa befor he passed always complainin about bein in pain. i even hav panic attacks. i had one today so bad i didnt even go to school. dont kno where it cam from but they just happen.

mi body is a god danm reck and its shamful at my age!! i dont want to be like all those others who reli so much on store bought products and medication to fix their problems. i want it natural all superb health. the only reason i even join this bord was becuz sum people were talking about how realizing full the full mind power cud manifest any desire even physical ones.

wavepsychic, i dont want to be exactly like superman i want to be me. but i want a body like his where it is involvnerable to practically anythin. but i wud settle for wolverines healing factor instead either one will do i just want the agony to end. at times i get so fed up that i make suicide attemps. i havent made one in over a year so im doin good. but i still ponder the thoughts somtimes wen the pain gets too tough. im not strong enough to handle life like this. i wunder wat cud i hav possibly don wrong in a past life for me to suffer like this.

people always sayin to me that i only experience these things cuz i believe i do. THATS BULL MAN !!! I believe i do because i do! i have the experiences first which then convinces me; not the other way around thats stupid and makes no since i mean why wud sum 1 purposely think themselves in bad health conditions by not wantin them? perhaps i hav made them even worst after they becam worst on their own, but i didnt start it

[Talker]

,

wat i can agree here is wat wavepsychic is sayin. i do believe he is the closes here that can relate to me and him bein older means he know wat it is like living like this longer then i do.

i want a new body cuz i hate the one i have. it gets hurt too easily, i bleed easily i mean give me a cut and leave me alon for abot 30 minuts an i bleed to death. i have serious heart palputations, possible faily kidneys, an achs an pains all over. the aches an pains dont last long but they cum often. i feel like mi granpa befor he passed always complainin about bein in pain. i even hav panic attacks. i had one today so bad i didnt even go to school. dont kno where it cam from but they just happen.

mi body is a god danm reck and its shamful at my age!! i dont want to be like all those others who reli so much on store bought products and medication to fix their problems. i want it natural all superb health. the only reason i even join this bord was becuz sum people were talking about how realizing full the full mind power cud manifest any desire even physical ones.

wavepsychic, i dont want to be exactly like superman i want to be me. but i want a body like his where it is involvnerable to practically anythin. but i wud settle for wolverines healing factor instead either one will do i just want the agony to end. at times i get so fed up that i make suicide attemps. i havent made one in over a year so im doin good. but i still ponder the thoughts somtimes wen the pain gets too tough. im not strong enough to handle life like this. i wunder wat cud i hav possibly don wrong in a past life for me to suffer like this.

people always sayin to me that i only experience these things cuz i believe i do. THATS BULL MAN !!! I believe i do because i do! i have the experiences first which then convinces me; not the other way around thats stupid and makes no since i mean why wud sum 1 purposely think themselves in bad health conditions by not wantin them? perhaps i hav made them even worst after they becam worst on their own, but i didnt start it

Hi,
How to be gentle with the words and still get a sensable flow of thoughts going!

Oh, well, your a mess, from your very own wording.
Unhappy with how things are in life experiences.
Have you been checked by a doctor!
If yes, what was offered to correct and recover from the list of 'conditions' you mention!
While I've not mentioned it anywhere, when in doubt, about 'what to do next', regards health matters, I temporarily  revert to using 'Lobelia inflata' and 'Capsicum' alternatly, to help reestablish harmony with health.

While I agree overall with Adrians thought stream, I do differ on one point. Yes. 'mind' is everything, when problems still exist. Nothing happens by accident! A very difficult concept to grasp and truly accept. Change is required, and is the point where many do stumble with that concept. What to do then, when in the 'Now', mind, just is not cutting the mustard as I term it!
Change of some sort must step in, and properly implemented, 'Mind" will cause needed 'changes' to take place. So, at first look, it appears that 'beliefs and intent' are still in a nebulous state within certain areas of life experiences. So use the 'tools' at hand to commence imlementing change. One by one, starting at any given area of 'what troubles you most'. Work one point at a time, until corrected to your satisfaction.

Read my blog post:

http://thetalker.org/archives/228/19-the-pit-in-the-cherry-and-the-guitar/

and forum post:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/rhetorical-rambling-or-normal-insanity-t1173.0.html;msg15120#msg15120

It may assist in the matter here.

Next look into:

Lithium low dose\Lithium Orotates Neuroprotective and Neuroregenerative Powers

Look into 'real' Natto use for a period of time.

May that what you are looking for, enter your life experiences.

Be Well

[juliainkc]

Hi All,

How to be gentle with the words and still get a sensable flow of thoughts going!

Be Well

  Nicely stated Talker

Very useful tools in the process of recovering ones power to heal. Begin where you are. Thank you for sharing your recommendations.

Daydreaming is not whats said here - if that is your daily thought pattern, then yes, it will not help you or anyone else. Perhaps your discomforts originate in your " unideal '' world you express as a perspective of your life view.
You cannot say that the advice here will not benefit him, unless of course you are dictating his results form the information being provided. Advice comes form relating experiences, and those offering their experiences have proven you wrong in the perspective.
You looked into all those words and found the ones you disagreed with, and related your own lack of success to others.
I assure you the things expressed have been deeply field tested with results.

Cancer is caused by many things, but primarily the belief that you will get it from one source or another. The little ' warning ' on cigarette packs causes more cancer than the actual smoking does.
Darrell

Perhaps Darrell said this in a different way than how Talker is expressing here yet the underlying idea is the same...

A wonderful opportunity to see some of the many faces of 'Love' here in action ... Truly.

There are those of us who if given constant 'coddling' would remain in a comatose state and never rise up. Coddling can actually be a way of keeping one in their state of pain and suffering by 'feeling sorry' for another. I am saying by feeding this feeling it can actually give more power to anothers experiencing pain and suffering by re-influencing, re-impowering the idea that one cannot change this by making another choice, another decision. Also known as enabling another.

A splash of ice cold water wakes us up and gets us up and moving.

If the bridge is out and you knew it could lead one to their demise not seeing it yet, would you tell them or would you smile at them as they passed by and let them keep on going? Whether they choose to believe you and what they choose to do with the information you share is up to them on what they choose to do with it.

I see a wonderful blend of gentle and tough love combined in here my brothers... Louis, Darrell was in my honest opinion, saying you are so much more than this truly. Like a muu! in Zen. InPowering you to rise above your current mindset. And I agree, you are more than these thoughts and you know I feel this way about you my brother.

Hi Goonie,

the only reason i even join this bord was becuz sum people were talking about how realizing full the full mind power cud manifest any desire even physical ones.

Well, is the possibility here in what you are sharing that you are receiving the shared 'tools' to realizing this full mind power and perhaps were expecting it to be delivered to you in a another way, to look different? Perhaps you had an underlying expectation of what this was suppose to look like and when it showed up looking differently, maybe are not ready to being open to receiving it in this way yet ... or possibly overlooking it? Just asking here ...

people always sayin to me that i only experience these things cuz i believe i do. THATS BULL MAN !!! I believe i do because i do! i have the experiences first which then convinces me; not the other way around thats stupid and makes no since i mean why wud sum 1 purposely think themselves in bad health conditions by not wantin them? perhaps i hav made them even worst after they becam worst on their own, but i didnt start it

I can relate to this. And what began to sink into me is the fact that different people in my life and not all of them knew one another, but they all knew me, kept repeating this to me too! It finally dawned on me that I was the common denominator in the equation. I had a shift in my perception that I was not in control of my own life. That life did not have to happen to me randomly at all. While that was not a fun moment for me in realizing this, it was a very painful realization yet this is what it took to set me free from what I realized were my own thoughts, as I was the only one having them, and it was these thoughts that kept me in bondage and on a wheel that kept going around in circles, this jolting reality check set me free to change it.

It made me realize, I am not stuck in this place, there is more than one way of Being and doing and having. There is something I can do. I can change, myself, my mind by changing the way I think. I had more options and choices now.

We have shared a practical tool much like the ones Talker is offering you here and it is in writing your thoughts down in stream fashion. Do this for you as it will reveal to yourself what thoughts you are putting your Energy Power into. This is why I say stream writing, not in a let's see what do I write kind of writing.

As you go to sleep tonight, Ask or Invite your Higher Self to make you aware first thing in the morning upon opening your eyes what if any thoughts are going through your mind. Really. I was amazed at the immediate chatter that started when I began to be aware of this. And it is this chatter that you want to stream down on paper to get an intimate look into yourself.

Not telling you, just sharing some tools that have made very big difference in my life and those of others I have had the opportunity to commune with about these things.

I send you Loving Energy today Goonie,

As Talker says and I resonate,

Be Well,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

I was use to seeing first by the experience I was having and then my perceptions that followed were coloring the way that I was seeing. So I was reinforcing my beliefs in my experience without even realizing I was doing this!

[wavepsychic]

Hello Everyone, I have a lot to say here so I hope I can remember to type it all.

Bro Darrell, I've said you are wise many times but I wont say you're always right. I CAN say that your advice didn't help Goonie because I've asked several times, and hes asked several times. We keep asking because nothings working! However not all hope is yet lost. I think I am close to the real answer.

Goonie, I am so glad I am reading this and not talking to you face to face. If I was I'd probably brake down and cry. No one understands what its like to have an identity crisis. Waking consciousness does NOTHING to the body. You can think and visualize what ever you want and you wont end up looking any uglier or healthier. There is an exception that has to do with the stress hormone but that's different. Baki hanma did something on accident that he doesn't remember when he changed the way he looks. He had to have slipped into a deep dream state. My only guess as to accomplish my goal is to Astral Project and keep on projecting until you arrive fully conscious at the Source and express your desire there. No waking consciousness can do this. So Goonie spend every bit of free time doing Energy Work and Practicing Astral Projection. Go out and buy a hand held cooking timer as the first step.

Talker please... I do not want my little bro on Medications. A doctor will see something wrong with the kid and see it as an opportunity to proscribe expensive medications. Teenagers who are already depressed are put on too many medications then end up killing themselves. Its listed as a side effect so that no one sues them for complications leading to Suicide.

  I love you all here that take your time to give friendly advice. But do you not see that is so easy for you to say "try this, try that" as if our problems have a simple solution.

In Peace and Love

Louis

[Talker]

Hello Everyone, I have a lot to say here so I hope I can remember to type it all.

Bro Darrell, I've said you are wise many times but I wont say you're always right. I CAN say that your advice didn't help Goonie because I've asked several times, and hes asked several times. We keep asking because nothings working! However not all hope is yet lost. I think I am close to the real answer.

Goonie, I am so glad I am reading this and not talking to you face to face. If I was I'd probably brake down and cry. No one understands what its like to have an identity crisis. Waking consciousness does NOTHING to the body. You can think and visualize what ever you want and you wont end up looking any uglier or healthier. There is an exception that has to do with the stress hormone but that's different. Baki hanma did something on accident that he doesn't remember when he changed the way he looks. He had to have slipped into a deep dream state. My only guess as to accomplish my goal is to Astral Project and keep on projecting until you arrive fully conscious at the Source and express your desire there. No waking consciousness can do this. So Goonie spend every bit of free time doing Energy Work and Practicing Astral Projection. Go out and buy a hand held cooking timer as the first step.

Talker please... I do not want my little bro on Medications. A doctor will see something wrong with the kid and see it as an opportunity to proscribe expensive medications. Teenagers who are already depressed are put on too many medications then end up killing themselves. Its listed as a side effect so that no one sues them for complications leading to Suicide.

  I love you all here that take your time to give friendly advice. But do you not see that is so easy for you to say "try this, try that" as if our problems have a simple solution.

In Peace and Love

Louis[/color]

Quote from Talker

Have you been checked by a doctor!
If yes, what was offered to correct and recover from the list of 'conditions' you mention

Hey folks,
Seems like the words still get in the way of understanding a given.
Did I not say 'So use the 'tools' at hand to commence implementing change' If one is sinking in an ocean of doubt and confusion, regards health, sheesh, have a doctor check you out. At least one will have an idea of where to start with implementing change.

Lithium Orotates can be purchased over the counter, and is NOT the same Lithium, as what the doctors prescribe. I have stated and posted my feelings regards any doctor, that keeps one on prescription drugs beyond three to six months.

The subject title is 'now im beggin!!!', here 'I repeat' 'have a doctor check you out'.

Hope this situation is not like the person bitching at God for not winning the Big Lottery Jackpot, yet never buying a ticket.

Have observed that people seeing a doctor, neglect to ask for copies of 'blood work' analysis, AND what the doctor 'thinks' is wrong with the person involved. With a bit of effort, one CAN interpret 'blood work analysis' on their own, or get another doctor to give a second opinion.There has to be a starting reference point, in correcting ongoing existing health conditions.

Now, while I truly respect the many, within the medical field, those dedicated to assisting in correcting health problems, does not mean that I trust everything they say.
I hold no degree in medicine or pharmacology, so it does behove one to at least use those that are professionals, when conditions warrent their use. To what extent one actually follows suggested protocols, is another matter. At least though, one has a given reference point. That is where desired change in ongoing health conditions starts, using the 'tools' at hand.
Be Well

[juliainkc]

Hi Louis and All,

Writing our thoughts down allows us take a look at what is showing up on the page (outside influence) expressing our inner thoughts (influence).

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/forums/what-caused-the-1st-cause-t1349.0.html;msg15655#msg15655

From wavepsychic

I believe in spirituality a simple answers is truth while a complicated answer takes the soul astray.

  I love you all here that take your time to give friendly advice. But do you not see that is so easy for you to say "try this, try that" as if our problems have a simple solution.

You are giving answer to yourself my brother truly. I say this with genuine intentions.

Our health is a part of our Spiritual experience here. Having conflicting thoughts is what creates a dis-ease from within. It's coming from within the reality we are creating in the way we are perceiving and it does show up somehow. And we are the only one who can change this in ourselves.

Healing begins with a decision to change or change begins with the decision to heal.

We are given freewill to decide to make that change or remain the same...

just thinking out loud to myself here.

Love to All,

Julia

[Baki Hanma]

Hope this situation is not like the person bitching at God for not winning the Big Lottery Jackpot, yet never buying a ticket.

You know Talker I think thats exactly whats going on here!

[wavepsychic]

Hope this situation is not like the person bitching at God for not winning the Big Lottery Jackpot, yet never buying a ticket.

You know Talker I think thats exactly whats going on here!

WHAT?

I'm kind of discouraged right now about my goals. With the person I want to look like it seems there is a lot different about him and me. His bones seem different. Larger and not as bony or maybe he has more fat cells then I do.

It reminds me of what goonies been talking about with the chest being different. I've been trying to change little things about myself such as Eye color and regrow hair since that is a huge problem I have with my appearence.

but I've tried so much, so many years of Meditation and Visualization, I asked god and had faith. Months went by then years and NOTHING. I'm wasting my life, I don't even feel like I'm alive.

So I did try! I paid for so much more then just a lottery ticket. I paid for every hair regrow thing there is for nothing. Why couldn't I have been born how I want from the beginning? This is urgent for Goonie myself and way more people then you know. I have friends who relate to me and change there entire lives just to see if it will change they way that they look. I tired to change one thing at a time yet nothing changed after all this time. I don't think I can shape shift into my ideal body. I need to reincarnate completely but can I do this without forgetting that it was my greatest desire?

What could I have done to deserve this and who is this god? Is it me? If it is then how come I can't change things on my own. If its not me then how can god be so cruel as to not help someone who has been bagging for it!

I just want to put on a new body or at the very least have my first out of body experience because if I have to be in this body another day longer I'm going to flip out! I can't fucking stand this, this body can't be me it can't be and I want out of it!