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« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2008, 03:35:15 »

Melody, Julia... a disagreement within you yes? Look within.

To answer your question the storm made by God is the Galaxy. No we as humans can not created a Galaxy but got made it for us. As far as being an individual glass of water you can and have made your own glass chaotic Melody. We can influence our own reality by expressing god because everything is our own perception of Gods work. Adrian quotes Jesus when he says "It is the farther within that doth the works". This doesn't mean that god knows what you want so you have to control your own thoughts so God knows what to create for you. So yes it is you that is creating your own life but Adrian never excluded God in the equation.

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« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2008, 09:21:44 »

Morning All

The ocean is composed of countless water molecules, yet it remains an ocean, as the ocean does not usurp the individuality of each individual molecule.
Laura beautifully hit the nail on the head, experiencing God changes everything, nothing is ever the same again after this. It is this experience with Source all spiritual paths are leading to, to know we are a molecules of the Human ocean, but Source knows each and every molecule intimately as we desire to know Source in the same manner.

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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2008, 09:49:11 »

My dear Louis and Darrell

Thank you for your support, however as much as I would like to take credit for the ocean/glass analogy is something I read and related to in a book by Dr. Wayne W Dyer "Your Sacred Self" and/or "Manifest Your Destiny: The Nine Spiritual Principles for Getting Everything You Want" - they are both sort of continuum and it really helps a lot in understanding our relationship with God, ourselves and others.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061094757/cornerstoneboo02

http://www.amazon.com/Manifest-Your-Destiny-Principles-Everything/dp/0061094943/ref=pd_sim_b_3

anyway love you all - Laura
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« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2008, 10:14:33 »

Hi All, smiley

Wave, you are such a sweetie pie!! In all honesty, I can respond to anyone and be at Peace. The results are released to the Universe.

Again, I sleep very well. smiley

Laura, thank you for sharing as well. My reference to the Solar Plexus or 3rd chakra was in it being the Bridge between all the chakras.

I understand that music is a Heart felt vibration. For myself, music seems to vibrate all the way through and beyond. Hard to express what I sense when listening to it. Thank you for the link. Will listen when I come back in from running.

I also appreciate you sharing about Wayne Dyer as well. I have InJoyed Wayne's sharing in my life through his books.

All in all, as I have shared, I fully understand that participating in an open forum such as this, one opens themself to any and all observations and comments. It's a given.

I have noticed in this huge transitional 'time' that when ones are leaving behind the old and the Light Energy is expanding from the release, it can seem like one is going to burst from all the Energy streaming through. wink

So to all of you who do understand, I am radiating Loving thoughts and Energy your way, to those who do not understand, I am radiating Loving thoughts and Energy your way.

To our Highest Good,

Love to you all in the Divine Spirit of Unconditional Love expressed in Spiritual Understanding,

Julia
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« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2008, 11:52:06 »

Well now, what do I perceive here. That unless one adheres to a set rule of language presentation, biblical interpretations, and forgoing colloquial expressions, it would be politically incorrect to post here! This story came to mind.

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The Blind People and The Elephant

A group of blind people were in a room with an elephant. They decided that they wanted to describe the elephant. Each felt a part of the elephant. One person felt the elephant's trunk and described it. A second person felt the elephant's left back foot and described it. A third person felt the elephant's front right foot and told about it. A fourth person had a hold of the elephant's tail and described it. As each described the elephant, the other's disagreed, because their views were different.

In education we sometimes behave like the blind people and the elephant. Each has a view, but we miss the others' views.
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~jflake/blind.html

Source surely must be having a thunderous laugh with my expressions of the elephant.
With Unconditional Love.
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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2008, 12:39:50 »

Hi Talker, Laura and All, smiley

I appreciate you sharing this Talker! It is a wonderful one and definitely bears repeating. Namaste.

Laura, I InJoyed listening to Dumitru Farcas. Serenity.


Many Blessings, Be Well and InJoy this day,

Love to you both and All,

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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2008, 13:00:24 »

Hi Darrell, cheesy cool

Didn't mean to not mention this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCvjYJylMM&feature=related

God I love this place!! Thank you for sharing this funny video. I truly appreciate yours and others wonderful sense of humor here. wink

Love in Divine Spirit,

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« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2008, 05:38:08 »


I find Julia and Laura as very beautiful helpful beings.

I have noticed in the past you question Adrian a lot, not in the most nicest way but that is your way, and cos we are all one, we are all learning from the way you question.
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Really good thread this , thanks Melody


Hello Freedom,

What works for one might not work for another. The sugar quoted approach of dealing with intellectual inquiries in this forum might be viewed as highly suspicious for by some visitors, especially those who are used to academic approach to investigation of theories, postulates, science, and those who might question who Adrian is all about. The immediate "defending" of Adrian when some questioning arises might also be perceived as a groupies type of fallowing he created. This forum can use a balance type of questioning and a very direct approach to issues.

I don't like to sugar coat my quests in order to get to the bottom of things. I call a spade a spade, and I believe Adrian is a big boy to take care of himself and of my questioning.

I am glad you find my straight forwardness useful.


 

Dear Melody
Why do you feel the need to defend the highly suspicious academics? Surely they can make up their own minds ... whoever they be.
I know Julia, Adrian , Laura , and everyone here feels the love.
I feel the love everytime I come in here. This forum is filled with the power of love, the most awesome power in the world, and we feel it. Truly. It is within Us.
If you have the perception of groupies of Adrian, I think that is just your own personal thing.
I cant see that at all. All I feel is the love, and if the academics cant feel it, and get up in arms about us being naive, I think that is their problem, poor dears, bless their little hearts and souls and little cotton socks.

Love ~ light
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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2008, 10:25:53 »


I find Julia and Laura as very beautiful helpful beings.

I have noticed in the past you question Adrian a lot, not in the most nicest way but that is your way, and cos we are all one, we are all learning from the way you question.
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Really good thread this , thanks Melody


Hello Freedom,

What works for one might not work for another. The sugar quoted approach of dealing with intellectual inquiries in this forum might be viewed as highly suspicious for by some visitors, especially those who are used to academic approach to investigation of theories, postulates, science, and those who might question who Adrian is all about. The immediate "defending" of Adrian when some questioning arises might also be perceived as a groupies type of fallowing he created. This forum can use a balance type of questioning and a very direct approach to issues.

I don't like to sugar coat my quests in order to get to the bottom of things. I call a spade a spade, and I believe Adrian is a big boy to take care of himself and of my questioning.

I am glad you find my straight forwardness useful.


 

Dear Melody
Why do you feel the need to defend the highly suspicious academics? Surely they can make up their own minds ... whoever they be.
I know Julia, Adrian , Laura , and everyone here feels the love.
I feel the love everytime I come in here. This forum is filled with the power of love, the most awesome power in the world, and we feel it. Truly. It is within Us.
If you have the perception of groupies of Adrian, I think that is just your own personal thing.
I cant see that at all. All I feel is the love, and if the academics cant feel it, and get up in arms about us being naive, I think that is their problem, poor dears, bless their little hearts and souls and little cotton socks.

Love ~ light


Dear Freedom,  Smiley

I can assure you that those with academic approach and functioning in academic realms have heard you even before speaking. They are not as bad as you might and the highly suspicious academics send you big hugs right now and feel the love as we speak Wink
The only problem with academics is they function in the logic mind frame, that's why Jesus was so successful with simple people because they never had the baggage of practical science and habit of logical functioning interfering with their faith.
So.. this having been said it perhaps takes a bit of more love for them or they need to analyse a bit more until they have exhausted all analysis and there is nothing left the explain the unexplainable - it simply means they come here with such a powerful individual spirit (or higher ego prone to separation) that it just makes it harder to be able to see the One and only.

So, love them anyway and don't judge them but rejoice in your own gifts and clear vision, sooner or later it will come to them as well.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Smiley


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« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2008, 11:56:49 »

Good Morning Freedom, Laura and All, smiley


Dear Melody

Why do you feel the need to defend the highly suspicious academics? Surely they can make up their own minds ... whoever they be.
I know Julia, Adrian , Laura , and everyone here feels the love.

I feel the love everytime I come in here. This forum is filled with the power of love, the most awesome power in the world, and we feel it. Truly. It is within Us.

If you have the perception of groupies of Adrian, I think that is just your own personal thing.
 
I cant see that at all. All I feel is the love, and if the academics cant feel it, and get up in arms about us being naive, I think that is their problem, poor dears, bless their little hearts and souls and little cotton socks.

Love ~ light


I appreciate you Freedom and it brings me Joy that you feel the Love in this forum. Truly. Thank you for sharing your Loving thoughts here and feeling free to express so. Namaste.

Haven't heard back yet from Adrian regarding the emoticons so you may wish to post to him yourself and make a request. smiley



Dear Freedom,  Smiley

I can assure you that those with academic approach and functioning in academic realms have heard you even before speaking. They are not as bad as you might and the highly suspicious academics send you big hugs right now and feel the love as we speak Wink

The only problem with academics is they function in the logic mind frame, that's why Jesus was so successful with simple people because they never had the baggage of practical science and habit of logical functioning interfering with their faith.

So.. this having been said it perhaps takes a bit of more love for them or they need to analyse a bit more until they have exhausted all analysis and there is nothing left the explain the unexplainable - it simply means they come here with such a powerful individual spirit (or higher ego prone to separation) that it just makes it harder to be able to see the One and only.

So, love them anyway and don't judge them but rejoice in your own gifts and clear vision, sooner or later it will come to them as well.

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Smiley


love - Laura


Hi Laura, my brother is of the academic mind frame as it is called. I am very academic also just esoterically so and not through conventional education.

While I have sat with him on many occasions deep in discussion regarding these things, I have found it very amusing when he finally gets my simple expressions and looks at me eyes wide open and says, 'Yes! you get it!!'  rolleyes

I just do not say things the way he does. He brings out paper and draws all these graphs and such, three hours later as I peel myself up from the floor saying enough already!! Yes, just being humorous however pretty close to the way it has been with him. I often would say to him, 'get to the point!'

He tends to leave his heart out of it. He does have a brilliant mind and he is very self absorbed. I understand these things about my brother and that is just the way he is. He has a very difficult time with me his sister not getting her knickers all in a twist about these things. He believes I should be outraged by all the things he is outraged by and I should be just like him. He does not allow me my free expression in Being myself.

In closing I agree that the stronger the ego is the deeper the idea of separation. One seems to need to be covered in all their bases to be safe. To decide. It is a sign of deep insecurity. I have deep compassion in understanding this.

I also Love myself enough to not allow another to box me into their idea of what I 'should' be and how I 'should' behave and say things.

The very ones who scream the loudest about proper ways of doing things are usually not secure enough in their own ways of doing things I have noticed. They need their data and statistics to back themselves up in their beliefs. They 'need' proof.

Those who are more in touch with their Heart or Heart sensate are secure in their knowing. The Heart does not lie. The mind then can follow together in balance with the Heart, action from the Heart is InSpirit or inspired. God breathed. One Presence. One in Unity. How does One express Heart language? It is a sensing, a knowing, a Being Present. Undefinable to the logical and reasoning mind.

There is no right way or wrong way, I myself see Freedom expressing this in her post.

IT IS what IT IS.

IT all leads to our Highest Good and I agree, we are called to Love through understanding and this is founded on Trust. Trust is where True Honesty comes from. Secure in OneSelf, one can freely speak to another what Love is expressing. It is always up to the One whether or not they are hearing it Heart first or analyzing mind first.

We are called to Love One Another. Sometimes Love isn't a warm fuzzy. The Intention is what matters. Is this for Love or for separation?

Love to you both and All,

Julia
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« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2008, 15:50:16 »


It was mentioned earlier that this forum is such a loving place. Recently I have been wondering if it is indeed such a loving environment why more people do not participate? It is only Adrian, mods, a couple of others and some occasional visitors who poke their noses in here and say something and are never heard from again. Just recently someone joined the forum on a very happy note, started a thread, and after a brief exchange cancelled his membership. That one really intrigued me.

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« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2008, 15:52:42 »


Hello Julia,

Why all the judging and comparing who is at what chakra and ultimately at what level?

The conclusion often comes from ones own level of perception and at times might have absolutely nothing to do with the person judged.

As for Farkas flute, I like it but prefer more temperamental music from your region. I always liked very much Enesku’s Romanian’s Rhapsody, or a tune like Ciocarlia which are more complex musically and have changes in tempo and pitch.

Gheorghe Zamfir, Ciocarlia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzyoqDz04v4&feature

I also like Hungarian Czardas - Csardas dance (which is apparently popular throughout all the Transylvania region) and especially this compilation by Vittorio Monti
   
Monti Csardas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9uQI-SRv4&feature

I also like this Doina

Gheorghe Zamfir, Doina da jale
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws5WP1LHGUc&feature

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