How can one come out of his/her body during day without hours of trying?

[Soul Traveller]

Hi Everybody

My name is farzad and i am realy happy that i have finally found a centre that helps people find their way and notice their abilities. first of all i want to thank adrian cooper who has written such a good book.
i have been working on OBE for 2 years and i think that we can share our knowledges and find new and better ways for OBE and it's purpose.

and here is my first Question.

how can one come out of his/her body during day without hours of trying?
yours' truely

farzad

[Werp Weg Alles]

Hey farzad

My name's Jake. I've been trying to OBE now for about 2 years, and still have not mustered up the right method for me apparently.  Sorry for the babbling, any way, to answer your question, it takes lots and lots of practice.  And an incredible amount of experience in the astral planes, most people(in my opinion) have to relax, meditate, and then form there go onto the astral planes and locales.  Some people can do this in a few minutes with lots and lots of practice with concentration, focus, meditation, and relaxtion. Others like me, take a half hour or so to get relaxed and in a state of meditation to even attempt.

[dwdream]

I have done this on several occasions. I suggest try mantra, at a very fast speed, and the mantra being, " I separate myself from me " On my first try I lit up like a 1000 Watt light and saw the back of my head for a split second. To me it was a good start, the more I tried, the longer I stayed out, but going from the waking stayed didn't allow my body to stay asleep. I still practice this once in a while. I should practice it more, because it works, like anything else the body has to get accustom to this new experience, and my body doesn't want to stay still after I am out.

Doug

[Questioner]

how can one come out of his/her body during day without hours of trying?
yours' truely

farzad

How do you know that you don't do this already??  I don't know about you, but in cases when I am driving my car, for instance, it sometimes happens that I find myself having arrived at a certain point without any recollection of having done so.  I do not remember encountering any other cars, stopping at any traffic signs or signals, or having traveled any distance at all.

I wonder if I am actually "out of my body" when this occurs which would explain my lack of awareness of my physical body's actions.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, do you think that it could be a waking OBE?

[melody]

How do you know that you don't do this already??  I don't know about you, but in cases when I am driving my car, for instance, it sometimes happens that I find myself having arrived at a certain point without any recollection of having done so.  I do not remember encountering any other cars, stopping at any traffic signs or signals, or having traveled any distance at all.

I wonder if I am actually "out of my body" when this occurs which would explain my lack of awareness of my physical body's actions.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, do you think that it could be a waking OBE?

Hello Questioner,

Your experience with driving a car might be something else than OBE. If you are driving on a familiar route, your driving is automatic, you no longer have to think about it. It is the same as with touch typing. A touch typist would not really know at the end of the page how exactly it was typed since he followed consciously only the words he had to type and not the typing process itself.

Being a Questionner, you would most certainly contemplate intensely some question in your head  while driving, and be fully conscious only of that, and so you might miss entirely the driving process. 

[wynewitch]

Hi Everybody

My name is farzad and i am realy happy that i have finally found a centre that helps people find their way and notice their abilities. first of all i want to thank adrian cooper who has written such a good book.
i have been working on OBE for 2 years and i think that we can share our knowledges and find new

and better ways for OBE and it's purpose.

and here is my first Question.



how can one come out of his/her body during day without hours of trying?
yours' truely

farzad

Hi Farzad,
This might sound very abstract and I don't mean it to be, but when you're ready, it happens! All the knowledge you've gathered will just become set into your bones suddenly, and what you want happens. I watched The Matrix recently again and its like Morpheus telling Neo 'don't think you are, know you are'. Don't think about getting out of your body, KNOW you get out of your body and ask your Self to remember how you do it. Practices and principles are secondary - fuel for your fire perhaps, but YOU are the fire.
Am I making any sense to you?
You already get out of your body - that is why you are wondering. What you want is for this experience to come into your conscious mind. So start remembering in whatever bizzare ways you conjure up, and TRUST YOURSELF. Go wild, nobody around you's looking 'in there' i.e. your mind. Why are you self-conscious about your desire?


Let yourself GGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!




Something will trigger you soon - if you are truly DESIRING for this. It's going to be beautiful - you're gonna be like 'Ahhhhhhh!' this is why I did that and that, read that and that, saw this person, listened to this song, looked at that picture. Everything that leads you up to the moment will make sense - in your BONES.
I felt totally moved to write this message to you now because guess what? It happened to me, like its happened to countless other people in this forum and all over the world.
My trigger for conscious OBE during the day this week? I was reading the principles of the Universe [general articles and quotes I've gathered] to myself aloud for a while, then I lay back to listen to - would you believe it - a Madonna song 'Future Lovers' on repeat in deep concentration, then I let myself go ... and I soared.
This is not about me, however, its about YOU, and right at this moment YOU are creating your conscious experience of OBE. YOU are feeding your fire. Yeah, keep feeding your fire.

The trigger is almost upon you! YOU are FINDING it as 'we speak'.







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From A Very Optimistic About Farzad's OBE during the day, Wynewitch.

[Adrian]

Hello Farzad,

Thank you for your most kind words.

Hi Everybody

My name is farzad and i am realy happy that i have finally found a centre that helps people find their way and notice their abilities. first of all i want to thank adrian cooper who has written such a good book.
i have been working on OBE for 2 years and i think that we can share our knowledges and find new and better ways for OBE and it's purpose.

and here is my first Question.

how can one come out of his/her body during day without hours of trying?
yours' truely

farzad

Projecting during the day is not a simple matter. Your Mind and body need to be fully prepared, your body needs to be totally relaxed, and your brainwaves slowed to the alpha or theta states.

The best time to project is at night, especially early in the morning after several REM cycles. At this time the body is naturally totally relaxed, brainwaves at alpha or theta, but the Mind is waking to full consciousness - these are ideal conditions for Astral Projection and Out of Body Experiences.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Lyes]

I suggest you try phasing.
This is a great method where you let the astral worlds com to you, instead of practicing an entire lifetime to get at them.
With Phasing I guarantee you will see instant results.
You just have to lay in your besd at night, as Adrian said, acting as if you were going to sleep normally.
The only and simple thing to do is to wait for astral visions to come to you. You begin to hear sounds that you know come from your own mind, you begin to see visions.
The most difficult task then begins: you must step into these visions without losing your consciousness, and at the same time your consciousness must not destroy the visions. This is where I have trouble. You have to find a great equilibrium between the subconscious which is creating what you are seeig, and your conscious mind.
I like to think that phasing is a way to "plunge your conscious mind into your subconscious mind".
To achieve this is a little difficult, you have to obtain a good degree of concentration.

But it is the only difficulty. Once you can concentrate enough, you can phase. You don't have to spend hours in your bed, learning how to relax, how to concentrate, how to use your chakras.

All these things are useful, but beginners, for the huge majority, want to see instant results, and phasing is not that hard.

Once you'll be able to phase, indeed, you'll want to be able to project in other times. But having achieved phasing, it will be easier.

My answer to this topic is:
*THE BEGINNERS SHOULD CONCENTRATE UPON PHASING*

[Werp Weg Alles]

Hello Lyes,

I agree whole heartedly with your advice on phasing.

I have tried for two years to project. And still feel that relaxation, concentration, visualization, meditation and etc are VERY important for people to learn.  However, phasing can allow people to see progress almost immediately which encourages and increases enthusiasm which according to the laws of cause and effect and attraction only attract more of the same and good things turn into great ones.

Happy Traveling,
Werp

[Lyes]

Well, good "luck", Werp

[Werp Weg Alles]

    haha.

Thanks for the "luck."  I think it might actually have helped! Ha.

I actually had a quite good experience last night, I was really tired, and kind of "crashed" on my bed, when I started seeing kind of flashing pictures, I was tired, and was actually kind of annoyed(rational mind wasn't reminding me it was the prep for phasing) so I said in my mind, "STOP,"  right when I did, the images froze on one of a tree with some grass around it, and from there the scene just kind of started playing in my mind and then I was "kind-of" there, but could still feel myself in bed too. It was actually pretty cool.

Werp

P.S. How are you coming with phasing Lyes??

[Lyes]

Hello Werp

Well I was on holydays these last two weeks, I mean I wasn't at home, this is why I haven't been able to post on this forum for a little while.

About phasing, your experience is really interesting. For myself, I indeed see those pictures you talk about, but at the very second I try to concentrate upon getting "into" it, the picture immediately disappears, and my body on my bed is all that I can feel. I think these are concentration problems that's why I have practiced the concentration exercises described in the OUR book every day for these 2 last weeks. And I will follow on. I have managed to complete the first exercise for now.

But I didn't try to phase during these holydays. I think I'll start again my experiences now that I'm back in Algiers.

Really, your experience is very interesting, because I'm for now totally unable to feel my body in bed and at the same time remain in the dream.

Greetings

[Werp Weg Alles]

See, thats the thing.  It wasn't a dream really...well it was....

Eh, I could kinda see and feel and hear and whatever what was happening in the scene....but then, I knew I was on my bed too.  And it all ended when I focused more on my bed instead of focusing more on the scene. 

I'm going to keep on trying.

And I'd love to hear about any progress you make as well.

Werp