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« on: October 14, 2008, 23:17:17 »

Meditation is the best way to discover our inner-self. However, human always fear of the unknown. Maybe i still dont understand well. Today i meditate for about 10 minutes in my personal room ALONE. During the meditation, my mind is concious about my surrounding. My mind slowly got into trance state.... Suddenly, i heard a very loud voice enter my ear ! (feel like the person is beside me)
I'm very scared and stop the meditation immediately... the voice sound like 'er na'..... i can confirm that the voice is not my imagination. Now i'm confused... Where did the voice came from ? Why did the voice came ? I have no idea..... Can you help me to interpret the situation ?
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 00:07:13 »

you have asked about 'black magic' before... do you have any fears that something has been done to you?
Are there moments, certain times of the day when you feel extremely fearful? Are there occurrences when your heart is tied in strange anxiety? And it takes some time before you regain a grip on yourself?

I think before proceeding with your mediation you need to solve your ‘resistance’ to it. Perhaps you are not quite ready? I suggest reading more, reflecting more, and investigating what you are about to do, and why and be clear within that it is exactly what you need and it is only for your soul higher purpose and not for material/personal gains.

Obscure motives or motives that satisfy the ego only always meet with difficulties.


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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 09:57:19 »

Hello Superman,

Minalora gave you sound and sage advice. It is always wise to research a practice before doing it,
I have meditated for three decades and still read about it.
When you are in a state of meditation, you feel calm and a trance state, yet your senses are in a hyper state of awareness. It is easy to be ' shocked ' out of meditation by noises or interruption by a presence of someone. I advise my students to close the door to keep their pets away from them as well, as they are sensitive to the energy and want to be near you during meditation.
Such things as a phone ringing can be very uncomfortable and even abrasive feeling.

Meditation is a wonderful way to ' know thyself ' and to communicate with the Universe and God.
Yet to educate oneself on the art is a wonderful experience unto itself. To believe in dark spirits and entity's only gives rise to them from the fears we harbor about them.
A spiritual path is one of courage - it brings us face to face with our demons of doubts, fears, and truths we may not desire to face from our former trainings in God and religions. Faith becomes a tool of survival displaying courage in the face of great turmoil around us.
We become the meditation in the turmoil of life, in dwellings, neighborhoods, towns and to those that know us. When you meditate long enough that energy becomes your energy in life, and it has the same effect on your environment as it does within your own being.

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 00:50:00 »

Hi Superman,

Listen to Darrel he knows A LOT about Meditation. If you are looking for answers to the noise I might have some for you. When in Meditation it is easier to use your inner senses. A well known Psychic is big on Spirit Guides claiming that they are with us from the time we are born. She also teaches "Spirit Guide Meditations" to get in touch with your Guides. She also claims that a lot of people know the Guides names or at least something close to there name. Erna sounds like a name to me.

I wouldn't worry about it because unless a Ghost is near one of Earths Electromagnetic lines they can't hurt you. Only through Fear can the time illusion future hurt you. It is always us who hurt ourselves. Meditation without fear is the only way you can get to know yourself & who ever is talking to you. I also believe that spirits are attracted to people who Meditate in kind of the say way pets are. Spirits gravitate to Psychics to be "heard".

Don't be afraid to Meditate just do it when ever you "Feel" the Meditation mood. In Truth
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 20:56:29 »

in the trance state the subconscious begins to churn perceptions images thoughts and ideas and sensations to us

very normal

so,

detach yourself from being interested, for fear is a type of interest and investment.

i feel affinity with the use of mantra for this reason, the universe is big, with many different things going on, to invoke the presence of God through a mantra such as Hare Krishna, or the white light of creation through Om, or various other mantras, or to take refuge in a guru such as Babaji, or a Buddha,
is to guarantee you will transcend yourself in time, and make progress.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 23:55:21 »

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i feel affinity with the use of mantra for this reason, the universe is big, with many different things going on, to invoke the presence of God through a mantra such as Hare Krishna, or the white light of creation through Om, or various other mantras, or to take refuge in a guru such as Babaji, or a Buddha,
is to guarantee you will transcend yourself in time, and make progress.

So that is where you got your screen name!
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 12:01:36 »

"You are the creator of your world."
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2009, 03:55:14 »

"You are the creator of your world."

if you are creator of you life...who create you and your creating world then
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2009, 11:03:12 »

Hello and welcome to the forums Smiley

"You are the creator of your world."

if you are creator of you life...who create you and your creating world then

If you want to understand the 'truth' and want to drink in the wisdom of all ages for sure you have arrived at the right place.

Your question cannot be answered the way you are normally accustomed, and deeper understanding is needed to truly absorb the essence on how 'you are the creator of your world'.

To start with I will tell you this much: you (or I) have not come here being born by our parents we just come through them.

The Universe (including ourselves) and everything we know and that which we don't, come to be through the expression of the force guided by the Mind of this One Thing which has also been called God, Source, Allah, The Great Spirit, and so on depending on various cultures and religious expressions.

The main thing to understand however is that God is not a Deity out there in the great beyond. God is everywhere. And being everywhere it means it is also inside you.
Veils of bad programming and beliefs are to be removed to be able to come in touch with the God at the core of your being.
When you finally are able to do so, your Mind will open and understand that which before was beyond understanding.
And most people that come to this forum and many seekers that search for this truth that they've known since forever but never been able to identify - are doing so because they are ready to invest the work needed to remove the veils that stops them seeing the truth.

So, tell me why have you chosen the name 'one inside zero'. ?? Smiley

love - Laura
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 11:06:55 »

Well this topic has been left alone but i want to say:
meditaion should be done when You feel like it- Just like Wave said. (Thanks Wave)
 
and dear 'One Inside Zero' ,
to understand the concept that YOU ARE THE CREATOR (like Laura said)
these books might be helpful:
"Happier Than God"
"Conversations With God"
  these both are by Neale Donald Walsche.
there are countless other books and websites which You can read and learn from.

grin

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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009, 02:36:06 »

meditaion should be done when You feel like it- Just like Wave said. (Thanks Wave)

Meditation might be an exercise but its very different then other forms of exercising. Exercise to work the body should be done on a routine. If you don't feel like doing it then you need to use your will power to get your body moving. A moving body is a moving body.

Meditation is so much different. You can't really force yourself to Meditate. You need to be in the mood or else your not going to be able to relax and its pointless. I used to have a meditation routine but it just got harder and harder.

I guess I'm just trying to say you should remind yourself to Meditate when your mind feels relaxed already.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 02:16:56 »

lol notice that "superman" puts a thread up called "Help Me!"



pointless & unproductive comment yes, but funny- to me at least  grin
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2009, 18:57:32 »

Superman,

Everything originates from the first cause.

You are a creative being, produced in the "images" (or imagination) of God.

Your creative process is much like God's own.

Especially in the state of meditation you are creating in a very "high level of vibration", creation doesn't stop because you are in a trance, in my experience your creative power is AMPLIFIED.

What are you creating? Do you believe in Dark forces?

Do you have an inward anchor programmed which believes that because you are taking a mystical approach to creation, that you must be opening yourself up to dark forces?

Faith is the very substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.

I believe that maybe your "faith", the faith that you're leaving yourself open to forces of darkness..., creates them!

Don't worry, it's all part of the illusion. You can also create their demise.

Therefore, create an angel to fight the dark forces for you!

Hope this helps.

Great Love to you,

Kadensnga

Ps. maybe I am being presumptious saying "dark forces", if so forgive me. I intuitively perceived that the voice shook you in a way that created an emotion which wasn't necessarily "wanted".

What is your intention in meditating? Is it to touch base with another (other worldly) level of reality?

 Could it be that your intention ids simply fulfilling itself?

In any case, I am sure no harm will come to you, you are simply "creating" on a higher level of vibration.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2009, 10:49:11 »

Meditation can be a drug, escaping from ' reality ' and then returning to ' reality ' finding it unaffected by the experience, no different than returning form a peyote experience or any other hallucinogenic state.

Spirituality has become a drug store of escapes from our realities - darkness and demons - indeed.
While living in the meditative vibration, darkness is found only to be as dark matter in the Universe, it is just not seen, but one cannot escape the reality that all life comes from it, plasma of a sort. What we cannot see we fear, and project those fears into the plasma, creating the unpleasant reality's we fight with. We cannot ' pretend ' them away.
I do not believe in Satan, but respect the reality that centuries of religious focus on Satan will create this energy in the world I live in.

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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 04:37:45 »

Meditation can be a drug, escaping from ' reality ' and then returning to ' reality ' finding it unaffected by the experience, no different than returning form a peyote experience or any other hallucinogenic state.

Spirituality has become a drug store of escapes from our realities - darkness and demons - indeed.
While living in the meditative vibration, darkness is found only to be as dark matter in the Universe, it is just not seen, but one cannot escape the reality that all life comes from it, plasma of a sort. What we cannot see we fear, and project those fears into the plasma, creating the unpleasant reality's we fight with. We cannot ' pretend ' them away.
I do not believe in Satan, but respect the reality that centuries of religious focus on Satan will create this energy in the world I live in.

I see how; just like our imagination produces the things we want in life such as cars and homes, the individual and even universal imagination creates evil, even in the form of gross matter... this is why we endeavor to avoid disharmony.

You are correct Darrell that evil does in fact exist, and the fact that all is illusion does not help to escape from the fact that the illusion is our reality sometimes.

So compassion is called for here. I have learned something from your response here.

Namaste to all.

John
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