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« on: June 23, 2009, 04:12:24 »

I have a close friend who truly beyond any doubt wishes to see the light, but......he is as I was a "Super-Christian". He has also been diagnosed with slight aperger's and regards most really hard to grasp things like theories of life as "only God knows". He's been my best friend for A long time and I don't want to see him waste away into death. His parents are for the most part "from the south" and are pumping him full of heavy medicines, Christianity, and illusions of responsibility such as making him pay 200 bucks a month for living with them(who are ironically living with there oldest child, jfyi). He is one of the most giving and caring people I know Smiley (I actually aspire to be more loving like he is)

And I know he has the capability to evolve spiritually at a great level just from him always trying to mold himself into what the bible tells him. He realizes that some books of the bible have been burnt, that jesus' real name and lots of other stuff has been mistranslated, but really has that whole "anything that tries to test my faith is just trying to test my fate in God" in his heart.  I know i could just go all out and debunk his religion but that is just obnoxious.  I don't know if his higher self is trying to just kill him mentally and spiritually for experience but I feel like it's really his choice to ask me. I told him if he has any life questions just ask me, numerous times, because I don't want to ruin his freewill through debunking which is almost always in the spirit of arrogance.  I would love anyone's ideas.....Do you think it would be too much to send him a link to this site?(most likely the "I want the truth!! Im tired of the lies or deceptions...."  thread)
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2009, 08:11:03 »

I have a close friend who truly beyond any doubt wishes to see the light, but......he is as I was a "Super-Christian". He has also been diagnosed with slight aperger's and regards most really hard to grasp things like theories of life as "only God knows". He's been my best friend for A long time and I don't want to see him waste away into death. His parents are for the most part "from the south" and are pumping him full of heavy medicines, Christianity, and illusions of responsibility such as making him pay 200 bucks a month for living with them(who are ironically living with there oldest child, jfyi). He is one of the most giving and caring people I know Smiley (I actually aspire to be more loving like he is)

And I know he has the capability to evolve spiritually at a great level just from him always trying to mold himself into what the bible tells him. He realizes that some books of the bible have been burnt, that jesus' real name and lots of other stuff has been mistranslated, but really has that whole "anything that tries to test my faith is just trying to test my fate in God" in his heart. 

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I know i could just go all out and debunk his religion but that is just obnoxious.  I don't know if his higher self is trying to just kill him mentally and spiritually for experience but I feel like it's really his choice to ask me.
I told him if he has any life questions just ask me, numerous times, because I don't want to ruin his freewill through debunking which is almost always in the spirit of arrogance.  I would love anyone's ideas.....Do you think it would be too much to send him a link to this site?(most likely the "I want the truth!! Im tired of the lies or deceptions...."  thread)
Hi xxxLOGICxxx,
Wrong move to even start a 'debunk' event. Gently inquiring for his input to your thoughts could be the  door opener, even though the other may come on strong with why another is 'off path'..
HighSelf does not at any point force the situation to an experience. Within broad parameters 'free will' is always creating 'the fork' in the path as an experience option.
Sending a link to this site, (good move) could be a gentle way of getting some conversation started. Of course and as I've experienced, it can also lead another to be aware just how 'off' base you are, from their perspective of beliefs. Yet it is a great way to conversation, if not forced.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 00:46:10 »

that's almost exactly what my other friend said, he said for me to give him reality in "doses" just like the medicine he is taking, or else he will simply regard me as just "too much on the other side of the fence".  I've come to realize that I can't want it for him and he needs to want it for himself, but next time he pushes his religious rigmarole on me, (sometimes when things happen he'll compare it to what story or line or statement from the bible that mostly correlates with it) WE WILL DEBATE  cool lol
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 01:14:30 »

Your earlier post about giving reality in doses because you might seem like too far over the fence
makes perfect sense thats the way I always think.

But my suggestion would be to use the bible as much as possible to show reality, because he is
so familiar and because he trusts the bible so much. Use the scriptures to show him reality.
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