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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 09:10:57 »

Greetings All,

I loved the explanation of the Universe creation.

I am not a Bible scholar, yet I recall in Genesis reading after Cain killed able he was condemned to wander the Earth, and in another passage told to " take his wife and dwell in the land of Nod "
Who was his wife?

I have been reading lately about the Hadron being shut down for at least a month after its initial testing due to ' electrical ' problems. I would imagine it has something to do with being hacked into the first day.
I was also wondering if the energy they created in this experiment didn't itself create conflicts with the energy that powers the collider itself.?

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 10:44:53 »

Dear Darrell,

The issue with the Hadron Collider was that it dumped several tonnes of liquid helium all over the floor, and the local fire service had to come and clean it up. As a result several nodes of the equipment heated up by 100C. The liquid helium cooled the equipment to just above absolute zero at -273C - colder than outer space.  Before they can begin work they need to bring the equipment to room temperature.

The last "collider" which was on a much small scale, failed right from the start when due to people working on it when it was being constructed placing two beer bottles in the system - the beer that "reaches parts that other beers cannot reach" Smiley

Perhaps these events are the Universe preventing humans from making a big mistake.

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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 13:28:42 »

Perhaps these events are the Universe preventing humans from making a big mistake.

Most likely so, especially since the Universe always works in perfect harmony.  These people are trying to create or reproduce an event (some results could be inner dimensional in nature from what I understand about this project) by use of physical means to satisfy their curiosity influenced by their ego.  I believe If any of the physical actions used in this experiment, or actions within anyone's life or reality for that matter, that go against the natural flow of the Universe then there has to be a balance.  I believe the Universe will always balance any energy that was reformed to be out of sync with the harmonization of the Universe.

That being said however, I do believe that after they have collectively focused enough energy on their project and their desired initiative they will get the machine up and running again to continue their experiments and studies.  As stated in the book OUR they just need to harmonize with their end result and eventually their project will manifest.  However that is not to say they are still not going against the flow of the Universe in the long run.  Their could still be greater consequences down the road ahead, but I'm just making an assumption there since I know very little about this project.  They would most certainly have greater success if they would stop and meditate, search, and contact their inner Self for a successful project.  They would mostly likely find answers that could give them even more discoveries with this project they never intended.

But who knows, for all I know the Universe could align the Energies in such away based on the collective consciousness of humanity as to use this device to benefit the planet and it's inhabitants greatly.  undecided  There are an infinite number of possibilities and potentials, and I wouldn't rule out the LHC as one of them.
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2008, 23:42:16 »

Hello Adrian, you are a genius and I relate to you in almost every way.

I want to point out before contributing to this forum that both Tesla & Einstein were NOT believers of the big bang. Einstein was presented with the Hypothesis  & thought it was preposterous. Tesla who we owe for most of the high tech inventions we use today concluded that he understood how the Universe was created after meeting a Yogi. Einstein was a Mystic who believed in the Ether.


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Scientists believe the "big bang" originated at some point in the physical Universe, but cannot understand why their data does not support it. Of course what scientists tend to do is to make their data fit their beliefs.

Even from a logical point of view - where could such a massively powerful point of Energy have come from, and how and why did it explode to create the massively diverse Universe that we see today?

It is true what you say. The Big Lie has nothing to do with Science because it is a religion. This video brings up a ton of good points as to why the Big Bang is a religion. It is long yet I deem it to be important.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl3Uj2UJjPA

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The creationists provide zero evidence except for "God's word" in the Bible itself, which of course is not evidential.

Creationist provide a lot of good information as to why Science is wrong & challenges Scientist. It is apparent that neither is correct. There is much in Science that is wrong & the newest Scientific revolution will come from Neal Adams.

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Notwithstanding, as Source, The First Cause, God is at the centre - the highest Vibration - of all creation, and God created the Universe including the physical Universe, them the physical Universe must have originated from God at the highest Vibration and extended uniformly outwards until Vibration became so low as to differntiate in to matter.

I think I understand how the Universe was created through the Universal Law of Evolution. I owe my current understand to Adrian & Neal & to a lesser extent many others who both showed me how things are and how they are not. I also couldn't understand the Universe without my Intuition which continues to give me that deep shiver feeling when I know I'm right about something.

Multi Dimensional Universe
As Adrian says in his book Our Ultimate Reality it goes "Source" "Electric Fluid" "Electromagnetic Fluid" "Magnetic Fluid" "Etheric Fluid" "Time Space Field". He only says Electric & Magnetic in his book but he said the Universal Air Element is a mixture of the Electric Fire & Magnetic Eater elements. Just so that we are clear before I tell you my Hypothesis, The Universal Element of Fire is the Electric Fluid, Universal Element of Air is the Electromagnetic Fluid (for lack of a better name for right now), Universal Element of Water is the Magnetic Fluid, Etheric Fluid is the step down because theres only one Field & everything is one, Universal Element of Earth is the Time Space Field & the most dense of all the Fields of course. You are told by scientist that this is a Fabric of 3 dimensional space woven with 1 time space dimension because of Einstein. I simply do not believe this because in my mind time isn't something that can be woven. It is a Field & failure to understand this with the false belief in the big bang hypothesis has resulted in a belief that the Universe might end in the big rip hypothesis. This is as foolish to me as the big bang. It stems from the idea analogy of a half blown up balloon being stretched to show the Galaxies spreading apart. The Time Space Field is NOT a stretching Fabric.

Growing Universe
Many of you have viewed my Growing Universe Forum but no one says anything about it. Creationist will tell you that god put everything together with his big manly hands. We all know that not to be true. Science says everything came together by chance or accident. This also isn't true. Looking around us at nature all we ever see is Growth. Because growth IS Evolution & as Adrian always says the Universe is always moving in the way of Evolution. Plants grow, We grow, all our Food plant or live stock grows, Spirit grows through experience, Geodes grow, Chondrites grow, Asteroids grow, Moons grow, Planets grow, Stars grow, Black Holes grow, Galaxies grow, the Time Space Field grows.... Nothing in Nature is "just put together". Even salt grew by sulfur and chlorine joining in crystalline bonds. I call it the Time Space Field because its the Field that energy is put into time space models that we call Matter.

From the source in the form of thought the Heavens (Electric Field) grew first, the Astral Plane (Magnetic Field) grew outward from the Tao/Source as the Heavens grew & the Astral Plane grew. The entire Field grew and that includes what I call the Time Space Field. Galaxy's are Galactic storms created by the Black Holes. According to Neal Adams the Black Holes divide the "Time Space Field" into Electrons and Positrons which are pieces of this Growing Field. A tree will never grow so big that it rips itself into nothing! The Positrons according to Neal becomes protons after being ejected out the polar end of the Black Hole opposite from the Electrons thrown out the other end. Protons because they attract particles of Neutral Time Space Field. When they meet again in the Galactic Storm the electron is attracted to the Positron but because its enclosed as a proton the Electron can not fuse with it, instead they generate a Magnetic Field. I guess I kinda got off topic! The point is that because of the Source, Tao, Consciousness, Universal Mind, Soul of the Universe, Spirit the laws are set forth & everything is growing through energy provided by mental projection. Everything in nature collects on a very small level and grows. There is no expanding, static universe, or even dark matter, just Growth as dictated by Evolutionary Laws.

I hope you enjoyed that & if you disagree feel free to say something.


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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2008, 08:20:23 »

Hi Wave
excellent post. You know, for ages I never believed in the big bang theory, and somewhere I read that Steven Hawkings apologised for his mistake, in the recent past. I always somehow knew that he was wrong. It was just all wrong to me.
The first  I knew of the Collider thing was reading the Dan Brown book , so that gave me some interesting info.
I can't look at video's , cos I am still on dial-up... boohoo, when I get broadband I will look at as much as poss.
Yes, I agree science is a religion grin, their supporters deny this , lol!
I understand about the deep shiver, one always knows if they have got it right, I agree totally there.
Yes, I sure enjoyed ur stuff. Yes indeed.

Have u seen this, it says everything you said, just in an earlier point in history... about 50 years ago , I think, but it is much the same. I think it is great and if you haven't read it b4, u will like it....http://mental-science.com/
it is the truth - plain and simple.
I also welcome comments on this site. Especially from you and Adrian.

Love and blessings to everyone  smiley
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2008, 16:30:53 »

Hi Freedom

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Hi Wave
excellent post. You know, for ages I never believed in the big bang theory

I relate to this. Every time it is mentioned or explained I just felt Uninterested. I mean I know all about it but I just never took to it. I often got interrupted by people talking about the Big Bang as I was trying to talk about Biological Evolution. As if they had anything to do with each other.

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somewhere I read that Steven Hawkings apologised for his mistake, in the recent past. I always somehow knew that he was wrong. It was just all wrong to me.

Here we have a quote from Einstein & the link that also talks about Hawking's take on the Big Bang.

Albert Einstein (1879-1955), who profoundly believed in the existence of God, found Monsignor Lemaitre theory very suspect, because it was so strongly rooted to the Christian dogma of creationism and was both unprovable and unjustifiable from a basic physics point of view. Einstein told Monsignor Lemaitre that "your grasp of physics is abominable.

http://www.misunderstooduniverse.com/Creationists_Theory_of_Cosmic_Evolution.htm

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Yes, I agree science is a religion

Science is like a Religion because there is no true Atheist. Everyone believes in something. Most people are taught the Theories that the Scientific Priest believe in. If they would seek the truth they would find a lot of facts that do not fit into the Theories that Scientist present to them. Most people are still influenced by Orthodox Religions where excepting things that are told to them buy people with names such as Priest & Scientist is excepted without question.

I would also like to point out that all these Materialist believe that everything came from the Big Bang. How do they explain Love, Thoughts, Emotions & Consciousness. NO they are not Biochemical illusions in the brain like Psychologist claim. Thoughts and feelings influence the body Chemistry but are not created by the Chemistry. This is why Antidepressants only makes the problem worse by trying to cover up the Emotional causes.

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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2008, 21:34:34 »

Adrian did you know that Ligious mean join? So Religious means to Rejoin? I still wouldn't like to call myself Religious.
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2008, 08:16:45 »

I think the religion of scientists  is called 'scientism'... but of course they disagree.

Thanks for the link -  misunderstood universe, I am looking around in that one. Did you check out my link? It goes on a bit.. but is worth having a look at. I am amazed that info from that far back in not in common knowledge today.
Just why are the majority of peple not interested in finding out about their own power?
It boggles the mind. Why do most people just want to follow the leaders.. even when they know the leaders aint doing them much good? Do they only care about tax cuts, or such other rubbish?

Even what u posted about re-ligious = re-joined, that was fascinating info to me. (not that I am religous at all)  , but thanks very much for all the info. I am learning a lot.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2008, 21:00:42 »

Hi Freedom

I think the religion of scientists  is called 'scientism'... but of course they disagree.

Thanks for the link -  misunderstood universe, I am looking around in that one. Did you check out my link? It goes on a bit.. but is worth having a look at. I am amazed that info from that far back in not in common knowledge today.
Just why are the majority of peple not interested in finding out about their own power?
It boggles the mind. Why do most people just want to follow the leaders.. even when they know the leaders aint doing them much good? Do they only care about tax cuts, or such other rubbish?

Even what u posted about re-ligious = re-joined, that was fascinating info to me. (not that I am religous at all)  , but thanks very much for all the info. I am learning a lot.

I believe it is because people do not have the stamina to be Conscious & see from outside of themselves. Most have lost there Intuition. In Taoism this is called "The Great Tao Forgotten". Most people do not want to take responsibility for there own actions. We think we are free because we have Personal Freedoms but in reality we are loosing our Civic Freedoms (Americans).

A Religion based on fear will not lead to salvation. This kind of Religion is using Faith as a "do not question or else" thing. Faith and Patroitism are both Blind Submission. People just do not realizing it but who is free in blind submission? I got that from a Video I watched about The Esoteric Agenda from another post:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6030443037963555139&hl=en
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