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« on: March 30, 2009, 21:51:23 »

not sure wer to post this ir if i shud hav. i am in training for sumthing. at times u guys talk of bending reality and laws, and other impossible things. can anyone tell me how i can experience heavier gravity without crushin myself? does astral world hav gravity?
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 09:27:20 »

goonie man

first you have to tell us WHY you want to be heavier. Gravity is heavy, as u know.

once again , I am confused, as always...  rolleyes


I cant see the point of wanting to be heavy.

I dont see how it would be any use in the astral... cos u would be 'light' in the astral.

Interesting question, but I dont have any answers... at least I answered u, guess that counts for something.... at least I am interested in your question, even if I dont understand it.

Good luck, I hope someone with answers will answer you

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 20:01:12 »

yea, at least u did answere.
 
I want to increase gravity not to make me heavy, but to radically increase my strength level. I hav now a new goal, hopefully one that ends my depression. I want to improve on my strenght to super human levels, and the weights available on earth ar too few and too light once I hav achieved super human strength.

most barz can only hold a maximum of about 600 - maybe 1000 pounds. I dont want to stop tere. i want to be able to life tons. imagine lifting a car off of a child and doing it at will and not unda stress or adrinaline. i hav herd the stories such as thes but they are unable to replicate them when they want too.

I though maybe if I could effect gravity mentally in sum way I could invent a new powerful way to train. beside lifting weights only gives muscle power in the direction resistance is being applied. if my body was used to say 50xs earth gravity (just an example calm down!!) my whole body would be far more powerful entirely. I want that.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 01:31:47 »

Reading this post made me think you want to change your body and the "outside"
becuase you think that will automatically change your inside and end your depression.

Did you maybe think you have the order mixed up? Change your inside and then reconsider
what you want to change on the "outside"? As in end your depression first?

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 11:10:15 »

Goonie,

I think it is about time that Baki and Wave answered u , they have far more answers than I .

There is one thing , only , that I can think of, and that is Starwars, where Yoda councils that u shoulld not go to the dark force, for the strength is in the good force. or something like that. I am still only 1/2 way past the books. I am still yet to see the movies.


I would say, hmmm watch starwars.. Have u watched them?  Probalbly a thousand times, I guess  cheesy

However, it is about time they answered,  I think Wave  ( Louis) , is on an Easter fast. .. for some reason.

I hope you get answers and the powers that u truly deserve.

lots of love and blessings and thinking of u

You deserve your power, say that to uself. cool

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 10:04:52 »

it has nothing to do with starwars and i havent seen it too many time anyway. i want a tougher body, one that can withstand the rigurs and hardships of mother nature and so on. i bruse easily, im small, i hav all sorts of problems and no they do not all come from my emotion state. it is rather the oposite. i am depressed because of the state im in not the other way round. if i change my state, the way i feel will change to. and that must happen because otherwise i am livin a dull boring, meaningless un passionite life.

i just want a body like superman or wolverine, because they rarely if ever get hurt an when they do they heal if all conditions are met. the reason i wanted info on increasing gravity around me is because i want my body to be used to such an gravity. superman cam from a planet that have gravity 50xs that of earths. his tissu structure is designed for that amount of pressure so any planet with lesser gravity will be really light to him. i geuss its like us going to the moon. on the moon we could probably life a mountin at full force because the gravity there is so weak. therfor if life was on the moon like on earth we would be like superman to them cause our gravity is heavier.

i kno many people ignor me because i cum off as unintellegent or not serious about wat i ask. i m surprise u answered me freedom. im only 16 so i bet i am the yungest here. bare with me
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 18:12:24 »

Practice physical spirituality. Bend your body, bend your mind. Break free.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 18:22:36 »

Hello Ziggurat, smiley

A warm welcome to the forums. I appreciate your thoughts.

Theory (MIND) combined with the practicals (BODY). Apply what you are hearing. Be ye doers of the Word and not hearers only.

Do what you KNOW to do ~ Walk your Thoughts ~

Break free ~ BEING FREE IN BEING ~

I look forward to your further Heartfelt sharings here.

Harmonic Love expressing in Divine Spirit,

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 11:28:21 »

Dearest Julia,

Good Morning Glory!

That's something I used to say to my daughter every morning when she opened her eyes since she was a baby, and she smiled upon hearing every time, howbeit many times it was a half YAWN / Smile... rubbing the eyes... "morning Daddy"...

Probably have played out that routine scenario literally thousands of times. Nice memory. Thank you Julia, already you are giving out positive energy, even as it is unbeknown to you at the present moment in this case!  smiley

It is so important to feed positive energy to a child from the moment they open their eyes in the morning, so that they become trained to excitedly anticipate greeting the day, and not become trained to wake up with anxiety about whats waiting for them... she could always count on that spoonful of "wake up" energy. I see her doing the same sort things with my grandsons now.

Anyway, in Arkansas, we call that there story I just told you a "Tangent".

New York City? Get a rope!!!lol

NOW, in the like, ever illusive present moment ... you know, NOW... yeah that one.

I have a real question for you. Perhaps a tough one, if you will kindly indulge. BTW I don't have any expectations for an answer...just trying to understand how to refine my creative process a bit.

For 7 years I literally went to sleep every night listening to Abraham Hicks...sometmes we would change it up and do depok or marianne, or "the prophet"... I went to sleep for a whole year listening to the prophet every single night . It was something that I just wanted to burn into the dna.

I literally have a stack of Abraham CDs 2 feet high and have listened to every single one at least 100 times. I played them in my car, and in my bedroom , and in my kitchen when I woke up in the morning and got the routine started...just ate it like crazy.

Anyway,  I found Abraham about 10 years into my journey away from "religion"... at the time, it resonated with me as the very most advanced teaching of the day, however obscure...at that time. I had a friend who had found it and introduced me... he and I were so into it that we for many years an still to this days talk the same language and completely understand each other...we shared a love for this teaching.

So, then,  in addition to listening to the teaching itself, me and my best buddy couldn't stop talking about it for hours on end for years at a time... it was coming in from every direction constantly, and synchronicity abounded everywhere! It WORKED better in my life than anything I had ever taken in, leading to more enlightenment than any other single teaching, it was like magic that really worked.

2 years ago I finally began believing that there must be something even deeper..., went through a phase last year where I din't really take in alot of spiritual food at all, just kinda backed off after 20 years... I sat down with God, and wrote a prayer that I said every morning and everynight... and it was powerful... but that was the extent of my seeking. Put the whole thing down after 20 years of CRAMMING and just decided to "be".... anitcipating what the spirit would bring NEXT>

NEXT PLEASE....

 Obviously I have found myself here, and learning from Adrian's book. This would prove to be the "NEXT".

...back to question.

In short:

I gave ALOT of energy to understanding what were relayed as 4 laws "Alllowing, Attraction, Deliberate Creation and Segment Intending".

HOWEVER,

If I understand Adrian's Theory correctly , it is that our manifestation process is not the law of attraction, as in "things come in from the outward", but more going outward from within ... and the more consciousness matter that is put out, the more dense it becomes... so it would be the opposite of "attraction". Okay, I get it, and  I really see that even the law of attraction itself is based upon building the vibration that surrounds a subject and there fore "attracting it", but in Adrians case you could replace the word "attracting" with "materializing"... so, logistically they work the same.



I see Adrians theory working in the real word, with the "law of large numbers...". In the sales world, you dont struggle for as long as you understand that, you can keep throwing numbers out... and eventually a drop of gold rises up out of the mass of numbers... (alchemy at it's finest) squishing alot of mass together, then suddenly a drop of gold squeezes out... no struggle, no anxiety, just applying the law.

Thats why I work 2 hours a day, while many others work 10 or 12, because I understand that. Also why I can sit here for 2 hours writing a post in the greatest forum on the planet at my leisure.

Not to be "non-esoterical" but:

This just means in "lay terms", that you send out a promotional email to 20 people and nothing happens...instead of worrying about it you just send out 200 more...then one sale pops out...you have forced the pipeline to explode and shrapnel is flying everywhere...because you just kept stuffing the numbers until what is wanted materialized. It is virtually "Effortless Creation", once you understand that truly the only thing required is to build the vibration around a subject until it becomes gross mass.

Numbers/Emails in this case = "thought vibes". Building energy around a subject.

Another example:

Many times I have stared at something on the internet...like a dream guitar or something... for a whole month or two, and just became engrossed, and just built up more and more intensity, until you could almost feel the thought vibes forming gross mass... until the guitar burst into manifestation suddenly, and the next thing you an unbelievable opportunity pops up thats perfectly synchronistic and BLAMMMMMMMMMM! It's sitting right beside me, and it has a name "karma"... (yes I name my guitars).

Saying this:


I see clearly how thought mass builds up and causes things to materialize... I see clearly how we absolutely CAN stop struggling and just apply the laws making all that is wanted an inevitability.

...the part where I am stuck is this. I know it's strange, but how to wrap the mind around this concept?:

If the universe is infinite, then what wall are we throwing this thought matter up against that is is squishing it into density...

Also, sometimes I am not creating, but I am wanting to manifest something that already exists...like a car that's for sale in Florida, suddenly ends up in my driveway, where I envisioned it...

That seems to be more "attracting than creating"...

I am trying to find a balance and understand how this works... although it worked well before, my beliefs have been "Challenged", and I am trying to sort it all out. Can you somehow interpret the question that I am having trouble getting out...?

Basically which one is more correct....? I can see how even they are both the same logistically, as they both entail building the vibration of the thing you desire to manifest through imaging, and giving energy to...

God Bless you my beloved sister... anyone else who would care to help answer this is also welcome...

Every now and then a belief gets challenged, and in my case I have alot of intentional programming that goes haywire until it becomes settled on the issue.

In the core, these questions are more about the practice of becoming a better lucid dreamer.

Namaste to all.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 13:43:40 »

Hi Beloved John, smiley

What a lovely thought to be greeted with! Morning glories are so beautiful with their vibrant colors and their cousin the moonflower is so lovely in its luminous white that can be seen so clearly in the dark. Day in, day out beauty ~ Thank you for sharing this along with the wonderful memory of your daughter whom is passing this gift on to your evolving Self in your grandchildren. Life begets Life...

I totally relate to what you share here. And I will only share from what I discovered in the 'process'. When I was taking 'stock' of my life in certain moments, I noticed when 'things' circumstances seem to appear, show up out of 'nowhere'. And I recall thinking to myself on many occasions, wow, it's like whatever I was thinking, creating appeared happened instantaneously without a whole lot of 'thinking' about it. A now you don't see it, now you do kind of magic going on.

I actually forgot that I had had the thought but remembered it as soon as the idea became manifested. One of those looking around and being aware that 'someone' was listening to my innermost thoughts and then it showing up in 3D. Hmmm... uncanny! or so I mused.

Years ago as a finacially challenged mother of two adolescent daughters, the idea popped up in regards to having a bigger vehicle to accomodate my yet to drive children and friends to various events. Now, in my then reality, there wasn't a chance in hades that this could happen due to there being way more month than money. Yet, something inside said, remember, what is not possible in your ways is always possible with 'GOD' ways. So, I went into the Inner Chambers and said, hey Dad! how's about a newer car? A bigger one to take the girls and their friends places to insure their safe to and fros? Not to mention that I would like to have a bigger car just for the sheer Joy of experiencing it!

Well, John, there was nothing wrong with my current car. A hidden gift of mine is being ignorant about mechanics of life in general and in particular about cars and I tend to pick cars by 'being drawn to one' that are reliable and last for a very long while with little or no problems. Jump in, turn the key, all aboard vroom vromm and away we go! LOL! Yes, I am really like this! So, there was no 'need' for another car.

What happened next is that I happened upon an article by a woman whom encouraged ones to cut photos out of what one desired to have appear. Just to keep in mind what one was desiring. So, I found a photo of a vehicle (Toyota 4 Runner or Isuzu Trooper, I honestly don't remember) and put it into view to 'focus' on my fridge to imagine manifesting it. Well, after about six months, I said to myself, hmm! it's not happening! What's going on? And then, the next idea popped up. Are you willing to let go of how it has got to be or look and Trust the Universe, GOD, Source to give you the best of the best?

Sure! What's that mean? It means, you desire a bigger car now let me choose the best one and have it delivered. Okay. And that is what I did. I Let Go when I said, This or something 'better'.

Well, already a long story short, right after this, I loaned my vehicle to my eldest one day and she killed it!! LOL! It died of a heart attack at her newly found driving skills. Braking at the line of the light kind of driving from 'cruising' at 50+ miles an hour. OMG, sorry folks, if you happened to be around her driving! (She passed 'blame' by saying she learned from the best). mmm hmm ...

Now, I was going out of town on one of my cross country trips the next day when this happened and had to be driven to the airport. And I thought, 'this is just great!'. And I barked out a prayer for another vehicle with all of the essentials included as in send the money to be able to afford this car. So, home on Monday, a phone call comes in, a friend of a very close friend's boyfriend, called and said, I have a car for you. He desribed it and my heart sunk. NO, NO, NO, I thought and argued with this man. Truly. I do not want a red car, stick shift and two door no less. Just come and take a drive he said. So, I resolutely determined that it was a waste of my time yet had nothing to lose went.

Well, immediately putting my behind in the seat, I thought hmmm it's like it fits perfectly, and after turning every hair on this man's head gray on the 'test' drive, not to mention collecting his stomach from my 'adjusting' to a stick from an automatic, I said excitedly, YES!! this IS my car! I felt my car. And I still have this car which has given me the best service out of all the cars I have ever owned. Truth.

Now, recently I am of the mind that it would be nice to have another car, not a pressing thought, a toying one. Only this time, I just said, this is my idea however I am open to your ideas of what is best and ... been browsing, and saw one the other day and went wow, now that is sexy!! A hot little number, sporty like my first car... and here I was thinking of a same sized vehicle yet, my children have their own cars now and so my 'needs' have adjusted. Hmmm ...

As Adrian shares about materializing and I agree. It isn't that we are making something out of nothing so much, it already exists, we are just drawing it out of ourselves not into ourselves. And while I do agree it is good to get the ideas down to clarity of what one desires to manifest, don't be such a stick in the mud about it really. (Not you John, anyone, myself especially from what I have unlearned). This or something better Higher in manifestation. Let GOD into the fun!!

I don't know if this so much 'answers' your question, more just being shared from the way I was shown to play with this. And being a designer, yes, details are a part of it foundationally yet I will say that when I was active in my business, I was known for creating unique designs because and I said this to my clients, my designs are Divinely Intended for the Higest Good of the individuals. And they were very individualized. My 'trademark'. I invited the Divine into the process and was given the desired results in much more satisfying ways than if I had tried to be stubborn and not open to the process. I 'felt' my designs and would not release them until the 'Feeling' of IT came through. CLICK. All systems go ~

Thanks for your ears of listening to my 'tangent'. And thank you John for even asking. Anyone else? Share on, this is fun!!

InJoy the Art of Being Open to Being Surprised,

Loves Light radiating your way today and always,

Julia through the Open door ~ cool



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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 15:17:44 »

Julia,

Thank you for your wonderful expression. It was most interesting and kindred to my own.

I got out of it what I often give out to others "don't worry about creation, just desire and let the universe do it's perfect work"... luckily I can take it as well as dish it so to speak.

Like yourself, every time I find that God has something planned for me that is slightly different than what I myself had planned... and yet it's always BETTER than what I would have planned... I think we sometimes get the return from a "mixture" of the vibes (seeds) we sent out.

In other words:

Telling the universe "i want chicken soup"...then "no I think I really want rice"...."no I think I'll go ahead and take the chicken soup actually"...

So it delivers to us "Chicken and Rice", and we say "ah, that was it... even more satisfying than what I had planned.

Because it gives not what we are asking for, but rather what we are in vibrational harmony with.

This all resonates with me, because I have practically lived at autotrader . com (space intentional) this week, as I am wanting to bless my daughters little family with a bigger vehicle. In the back of my head now I hear my family saying: "she should buy her own car, she's an adult..." blah blah blah.... but my thought is that everyone deserves a good break here and there to keep their faith in life up.

It is my good pleasure and I am not a slave to others thoughts so.... what a joy it has been pondering the possibilities of "what vehicle" this week!

Your post was on the target that wasn't even showing in my question. Your spirit answering the "true" question.

I am totally hearing you, and that will help me with this process. Your answer, in an even deeper sense than you realize, actually took on a life of it's own, as it bypasses most of the question I am asking in my post, and actually dives right into the current specific situation behind the veil.

You consciously weren't even aware of the circumstance to which you are speaking.

Another example of God giving you whats better and even more appropriate than what your lips are asking for.

You are tuned deeply "in" today my friend,

Love,
John
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 16:19:47 »

John, smiley

I thank you for sharing this. Truly. Yes. This is 'how' IT works. No, I had no idea of your situation yet, this is what flowed through and I felt it to be the leading and, click. And you validated that IT was a CLICK moment.

We call IT all sorts of things, coincidence, synchronicity. I call IT GODs ways. Everywhere, CONNECTED to everything and everyone. I love IT!! I love you too!!

Tuning IN to the VIBE,

Embracing you in LOVEs LIGHT,

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 18:08:00 »

Hmmmnn, wonder what it would feel like, to 'fall' up as opposed to 'falling' down.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 22:42:08 »

Seriously Julia, I think Zig attracted you and I to this thread, but in keeping with the "getting of Talkers point" here (above):  You should really read the dialogue above. this dialogue with goonie is really amusing.

Sorry Adonis, I dont know anything about gravity...didn't mean to jack your thread (as in "hi") though lol. Back to you Bob!
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2009, 13:05:32 »

LOL John, cheesy

I just saw this. mmhmm. Honestly, I read Talker's statement differently. As in gravity has a 'downward' pull ... being more 'Inner or Higher' focused than downward or outer focused ... yes, I did read the dialogue. Praveen shared a wonderful thought. Freedom hasn't been here in awhile yet she is very uplifting in her thoughts as well.

Perhaps this dialogue of ours 'should' be moved to one of the creating and manifesting threads ...

InJoy this day my Beloved Friend,

In the Spirit of Love,

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