Going "Back" to Source or already "Fully One" with Source?

[IAMEDE]

Hello everyone!

I have been seeking the "Truth" for some years now and found a number of very usefull
resources.  Our Ultimate Reality "book" being one of those.  The only thing that I am running
into thus far that is causing somewhat of a disharmony in myself is that of:

Why do we have to "Return" to source?  Why are we supposed to "work" to "attain" our
oneness with whom I "Thought" we were already one with.  I also like to read
Abraham Hicks material only because it all resonates so well with me.  There is one difference
between Abraham Hicks material and OUR material however.

With the Abraham Hicks material they say that : We are not lost children trying to find our way home,
we are not working to get from physical to non physical, we are not working torward perfections.
They say that we already are completely at one with Source Energy and that we are always on the
leading edge of creation of ourselves and our universe as well as everyone else equally.  We all are equal
aspects of god experiencing life according to our different perspectives.

I felt at peace thinking that we do not have to "Work" to get "Back" to source.  Or that we are ultimately
trying to reach a state of perfection.  This thought of having to return to source, just brings up SO many
thoughts that don't make sense and make me question so much.  I would like to "Know" what the truth is as
I am sure that everyone does.  I have read the Science of Being in 27 Lessons, They Master Key System, etc...
but it is just "This" part that is bugging me.  That doesn't make sense to me.  If someone could clarify for me
I would really appreciate it.  Adrian says that what he says in his book "Is" the way it is.   So does Abraham Hicks.
So how are we to know for sure who has revealed to us the Truth?

Any help on this subject would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you, and love to everyone!

IAMEDE

[juliainkc]

Hello IAMEDE,

A very warm welcome to the forums. Thank you for your wonderful post!

Yes, in the arena known as 'Spirituality' you will find that this is a part of the mix...as in one saying that their Truth is the Truth and so on. It is a given...

I InCourage you to follow what speaks to you and leave the rest. What I see here in your sharing that really vibes with me as an indicator of affirming ones own truth is;

I felt at peace thinking that we do not have to "Work" to get "Back" to source.  Or that we are ultimately
trying to reach a state of perfection.

Peace is a very good indicator of what speaks to one from Source. Source Being Peace Presence.

I would say don't second guess yourself on what is speaking to you my friend. Trust yourself and keep on trusting yourself in your knowing.

I wish to say that with this in mind, this forum created by Adrian will reveal to any who come in here, that all are given the freedom to express themselves in their own way. He is very kindhearted and generous in his ability to allow ones to share whether he agrees or not, he doesn't always say yet he allows it to be what it is. Thank you Adrian truly.

I look forward to your futher participation here in the forums IAMEDE,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Iamede,


I can perhaps help with your confusion because I asked same questions. They were answered by Kabbalah (I am still threading through it as in the place we are, we can never answer all questions ...and things are supposed to be like that for specific reasons).

Anyway to put it as simple as I can I will start with the story of creation.



In the beginning there was Cause. God.

The Source.

The only reality was infinite nonphysical energy that expanded endlessly.

Kabbalah calls this endless expanse Light. Every form of possible pleasure was included in this Light. Everything a person could conceive of, long for, crave or desire was included in this Light of happiness (from chocolate, sex, to bliss, serenity and so on).

This was the plane of the Creator. No time. No space....

The Creator then created all souls of humanity - one entity at that point - for one great purpose: to bestow this infinite Light of happiness upon us.

At that we were/are indeed part of the Creator, and Kabbalah gives an example to make this idea easier of that of water and ice. Imagine the Creator being water and Us a cup made of ice. Same stuff, same material ...just different state.

The Light was handed to us freely. The water was being poured into the cup.

At this point we can call the Creator the Bestower and we the Bestowed.

The Bestower created the Bestowed (us) simply deep out of this desire to share, to give, to impart all possible joy and happiness - the Light was handed to us freely. As being the Creator he needed for nothing as already having everything possible and imaginable, endless infinite all.

The primary property of the Creator (Bestower) was that of giving - sharing, and only for the sake of giving wanting absolutely nothing in return.
 
The primary property of the Bestowed (us) was that of receiving.

However as the Creator poured his Light into the cup ...some of the Light property was also imparted into the cup. Very much like you would pour hot water into an ordinary cup, the cup will get filled and get hot at the same time.

This property was that of the Creator's - that of giving.

It grew stronger (the cup was being filled with all that joy...) also the 'need' to Bestow until a point come when the Bestowed (the cup.... us) said: "Enough, I can't take all this beneficence anymore ..it feels like a handout, charity and it doesn't give me the dignity to be able to receive anymore if I am not given the opportunity to earn what I receive."

At that moment ..when the Bestowed said "STOP"- the Creator immediately retracted its Light  and the cup shattered in the thousands of pieces which are the souls of humanity ..the physical Universe was created for these souls simply for the purpose of given an opportunity to earn the Light.

Thus duality come in place (and with it the 'choice' and 'free will'). The choice being actually only one: choosing to be 'like' the Creator or not. Choosing Light or darkness.
(darkness = being reactive and Light = being pro-active)
i.e. every time we are faced with a situation we have the freedom to chose Light ... responding to that as the Creator would do with love, understanding, tolerance, no matter how bad it is or how much it upsets or angers us ...  or  Darkness, the workings of selfishness, or Ego, falling into anger, envy, jealousy etc..

So us being here it was not a punishment... it was OUR choice. It was in us that we had such a high integrity that we were ready to endure the limitations of this physical life in order to be able to feel that we earned the Light of the Creator.

So, in the light of this story... you will see that the actual "work" is something that is no work at all IF we understand who we are, why we are here, and what our mission here is.

Life is a game and Universe is our playfield. Getting to the higher levels is simple, no work at all....as one wants and desires... it accumulates the knowledge to do it... the game has to have a bit of challenge in it else it will not have the difficulty required for us in order to FEEL that we earned it.
 ... then comes the power and strength to not fall for life simple physical pleasures at the expense of giving up our property of being creators... when that happens game is over and we are free to receive endless joy without guilt...

You can also look at it as a game ...we tell to the creator: "You hide the Light and we will seek."

Becoming God...   

When we work at finding the Light we get a sense of accomplishment - we become responsible for our own happiness. We feel like God, like the Cause ..and nothing feels better than God as we receive endless happiness ... the package of this game.


I know this is a very brief account, things are a tad more complicated ...depending on or at which curtain of Darkness we are.

....however all spirituality made more sense to me after learning what I just told you. In all honesty I don't think there's an end to learning ...as there's no end to creation. When you think about it ...every time something gets created...something else comes up for learning.

The solace stands in getting your basics right. Then you can build upon that to whatever level you like to reach.

Good luck in finding your true path.

Here is a start in the 'resource' I just spoke from:


https://www.nightingale.com/prod_detail~product~Power_Kabbalah.aspx

[Mina-Laura]

I just wanted to add commenting on the wisdom shared by Julia.

Going back to the Source ..or playing the game is no work at all as soon as we get accustomed with what is all about.

As soon as you get the hang of it like Julia said you gain more and more of the Creator nature. Peace.

And when the game gets easier we get a sense of our true nature. Of that created from Light (about which Adrian also speaks...)

[juliainkc]

Dear Laura,

What a beautiful way of expressing through the Kabbalah.

Again, thank you so much for all the wonderful contributions you post here for the benefit of all others.

Many blessings, Be Well,

InJoy this day,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[Mina-Laura]

Thank you Julia,


Here is a clip (kind of funny..he he he):
http://perceivingreality.com/

[juliainkc]

This is awesome Laura!! You rock!

ding, ding, ding...

Love in Spirit,

Julia  

[IAMEDE]

Mina-Laura & Julia,

First of all I want to say "Thank You!" from the bottom of my heart for both of your responses
to my very first question on this board.  This really was a deep seated and "felt" question that was inside of me and when
reading your "Very Long, well thought out, and thorough, explanation" of Mina-Laura's personal
thoughts on the matter, I began to tear up and be filled with Joy as I was reading it.  It "Made Sense!",
and it "Felt True".   As I finished reading it, I had another question but from what I can tell, the questions
will always be there and that is a "Good" thing.  I also watched the video that you had posted and in turn
followed the link to the Kabbalah website.  I am going to be looking into this further to expand my
consciousness of Reality.  I can also now see and understand Adrian's take on "Returning to Source" much
better now.

 I am not completely sold yet as I am going to continue my search into Kabbalah to try and understand
this very interesting and intriguing science and way of life and see just how well it resonates with me.
I am going to continue to look into this as you have assisted me in discovering a new knowledge that I
am very, very, interested in gaining a fuller understanding of.

Again, thank you so much!  Please send me any other information that you have to share a different
times since I have already found the two resources you have provided me with VERY valuable.
I am going to continue my reading of Our Ultimate Reality at the same time that I am reading books
on the Kabbalah as given for free download at the site.  It also appears that there are free classes
you can take there and that may be an option for me as will in the future.  I am a very busy mother
of two young girls, real estate investor, and wife to the father of my children.  I try to spend as much
time as I can in these studies, but it can be difficult. 

Again, thank you so much for all you have shared and I look forward to my continued growth in spirituality!

Have a great day!

IAMEDE

[IAMEDE]

Hello,

Ok, I guess I am "Not" done. lol
One more question based on the answer I received from Mina-Laura.

It is in regard to this statement:
It grew stronger (the cup was being filled with all that joy...) also the 'need' to Bestow until a point come when the Bestowed (the cup.... us) said: "Enough, I can't take all this beneficence anymore ..it feels like a handout, charity and it doesn't give me the dignity to be able to receive anymore if I am not given the opportunity to earn what I receive."

At that moment ..when the Bestowed said "STOP"- the Creator immediately retracted its Light  and the cup shattered in the thousands of pieces which are the souls of humanity ..the physical Universe was created for these souls simply for the purpose of given an opportunity to earn the Light.

~ Why would we (The Bestowed - along with the property of Receiving)  Suddenly have a "Problem" with Receiving if that was
what we were made for, or created in the image of.  Also, since at that point, we were only becoming all that God "IS" by his poaring himself into us, where could the possibility of something that is "Not" of god be created?  Why would the thought be, "Wait, Stop, I didn't earn this" Where would that even come from?  It seems like we would rather be saying Hey Wait, I want to Give what I Am, just as Source did. 

Ultimately this is what I am having a difficult time getting past.
If you can share your thoughts on this, it would be most helpful.  I know I haven't yet taken the time
to read everything about the Kabbalah yet, but if you know the answer to this, it would be a great help.

Thank you,

IAMEDE

[Mina-Laura]

However as the Creator poured his Light into the cup ...some of the Light property was also imparted into the cup. Very much like you would pour hot water into an ordinary cup, the cup will get filled and get hot at the same time.

This property was that of the Creator's - that of giving.

It grew stronger (the cup was being filled with all that joy...) also the 'need' to Bestow...

To expand upon the statements above in the moment the cup was filled with all that joy, receiving and receiving it also got the Creator's property of that of giving. However for the cup (for the souls of humanity) there was nothing in place to provide them with the opportunity to give/to bestow. There was nothing, nobody to give to.

God is only a giver, he cannot be a recipient.

Thus the physical world was created in order for people to feel like givers and not only receivers. And the more people grow spiritually the more of a givers they become (like God).

This process that we live here on Earth is simply a mechanism for us to earn the Light of the Creator (also called Bread of Shame), as when we become like God, true givers the we truly rise up to the divine stuff we were created from.

I know a lot of questions arise while on spiritual path and this is how it should be as this denotes the motivation we have inscribed deep in our being (the activation of God DNA   )

Iamede I highly recommend getting those CDs in there the whole concepts are explained at large in a direct, way that is easy to understand and it brings that feeling within of 'aha...now I get it'. As like you I'm a busy mother of 3, so on my drive to work and back is quite a refresher listening those CDs (and others) - it feels like a time well spent. Long time ago I gave up on the news, and etc... I listen to music sometimes..

Mind you there are people that study Kabbalah for years and decades and still can't get enough of it. 
Be careful though that there are many people and web-sites claiming they teach Kabbalah. The site I pointed you at was instituted by a long genealogy of teachers, so is the real stuff.

Here is the official site: http://www.kabbalah.com/

I would like to talk about the "Zohar" and "72 names of God" but I do not want to overwhelm you. Just this much:

The Zohar is written in the ancient language of Aramaic
Above and beyond the importance of the Aramaic language, even the individual letters of The Zohar have special significance.
each Aramaic letter is also a channel to a unique form of spiritual energy—
Scanning the letters—just letting your eyes pass over them—opens an unlimited channel to the Light.

[Mina-Laura]

P.S. I am glad you found the info useful.

[IAMEDE]

Mina-Laura,

Once again,........... I am "Speechless".  Thank you so much for absolutely everything!
You have been VERY valuable in my life already.  And So has Julia.  I am so thankful for being
able to come into compact with people such as you.  Adrian as well since everything I am learning
so far is making so much more sense now!

Love to all of you!

IAMEDE

[juliainkc]

Hello IAMEDE,

I agree, Laura shares many wonderful contributions that is a blessing to those here. This forum is a goldmine truly. There is something for everyone and we can see that there is a wide range of flavors to suit any amount of tastes.

I am happy that you are InJoying the forums so much! And thank you for your loving thoughts and sharing your uplifting Spirit with us all.

Many Blessings, Be Well

InJoy this day,

Love in Spirit,

Julia

[IAMEDE]

Thank you Julia, that was very nice of you!

I was just wondering, does Kabbalah mention anything similar to what
Adrian discusses in regard to the Gallactive alignment of 2012?  I have
been looking into information on Kabbalah, but I am not sure that everything
rings "True" with me.  The entire idea an general beliefs and thoughts behind
it do, but certain things do not.  I have decided that I am just going to keep
my heart and mind always open to God, Good, Love, Source, and see where it
takes me.  I think we all want a "Definite" answer like "This Is IT".  And I am not
sure that Anyone can answer that for me.  I have been finding a common thread
that is woven through them all and I do believe I will be taking what rings true
and leaving the rest behind until either left behind for good or taken in consideration
at a later time or perhaps the proper time for me?

Anyhow, I truly thank you all for you help!  You have definitely helped me to
understand so much more!  Thanks again!

EDE

[Mina-Laura]

Dear Ede,

I have been finding a common thread that is woven through them all and I do believe I will be taking what rings true
and leaving the rest behind until either left behind for good or taken in consideration a later time or perhaps the proper time for me?

Anyhow, I truly thank you all for you help!  You have definitely helped me to
understand so much more!  Thanks again!

EDE

Thank exactly how is supposed to be you are a wise and kind one Ede.
Nobody here follows a 'one way'. We are wondering children and is built in us to wonder.

I wondered many times: "how come I didn't come upon this sooner" ..but then everything shows up and stays with you when you are ready for that vibration.
And Adrian always advises that as well: take what rigs true to you.


Enjoy your journey Ede.