God or Extraterrestrials created Adam?

[juliainkc]

Julia persona, ever the PippiLongstocking, Fringe Dweller,

Louis, In All Honesty, Tao. You speak Tao. I have a very interesting story about this...

When I was at the point (geometrically) of 23, I had an amazing brother. His name was Rick Irons ( a professional surfer and kinda sorta celebrity in 'his' day...) I asked my brother Rick who took this one and her nubial surfer hubby under his wing (his wife not so approving) No. I am innocent as in motives. Truth.

Well, said Taoist brother responded to me as I asked him about these 'physically appearing' issues... Veganism, vegetarianism, omnivorism, God saying God created chaos in the Book of Isaiah in the Bible isms. Why, why why, what, what what and so on.

It's like a wave Julia, stay in the center, stay inside the curve not too much this Upway, not too much that downway...

Rick was one of the Pastors of the North Shore Chrisiatian Fellowship.

learned alot from this Beloved brother. I asked him why he chose Christianity after being Taoist for  over 20 some going into 30 some years. I had no issues with Tao.

He said to me in a translated version via Higher Self expressing as..., 'It all came down to one answer to one verse."

Oh yeah? Which or what verse? Well, J, the one thing I could not bring into harmony was this..."I am the Way the Truth and the Life and No man comes unto the Father but (wall or bridge) by Me."

That's kinda arrogant. No it isn't. Mmmm" It's called knowing not trying this and that. One step Enlightenment.

God, it's taken this one over 30 f*ng years for this to 'hit' me between the I's....

Off to wander, I love Ferdinand the bull, in Childlike definition, 'Eyeore' in Christopher Robins' Five Acred Woods...

Love Unconditonally,

Your Sister in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Hi my three best friends here Melody, Julia and Laura.

Hello Wave,

I am glad you are liked by people. Not long ago you told us that a so-called friend of yours claimed that no one liked you. I am very happy you realized he told you a lie.

She, it was a she that said that. I used to call her my best friend. Their was never a time when people didn't like me. I am liked by all. The issue was that I don't have anything in common with people so its hard to have a friendship type relationship. In other words, I'm boring.

Laura I am much more evolved then you gave me credit for. I have no such problems. Julia as usual I have no idea what you said but I think I understand on a deeper level.

I am fine let us all get back to the positive things. 

[Mina-Laura]

Laura I am much more evolved then you gave me credit for. I have no such problems.

I'm glad that's the case Louis
love - Laura

[etanimulli]

Namaste All

You know I've been pondering this question within myself for the last day or two, and that is that Gratitude being an important aspect of progression, but the Gratitude in terms of prayer, in my past experience, is usually in reference to paying homage to "a higher source". as in someone/something else. Adrians comment on page 1 of this post

What the Bible means when it quotes "And God said, Let us make man in our image" is the Spiritual Image - in other words "Energy" not a physical image which only exists as an illusion in the physical World.

God, The Source is an Energy Field - All that Is. We exist as Thought Forms or individuated Energy Fields in the form of points of Consciousness in the Mind of God. But we, as individuated Energy Fields are made in the perfect image of the Supreme Energy Field.

This accentuates to me the oneness of us with source, its like, instead of being grateful to some "image in you perception" its more gratitude towards your subatomic particles, the stone on the ground, the cat/dog on the road, the energy field, as I am you, and you am I.

Its a hard one to digest, cause it respects and cause us to remember our "own" divinity, meaning our equality with source, as we are expressions of source. However, it makes a lot of sense, when thinking of the Hindu meditation chant, 'OM' which I read somewhere to be interpreted as "I AM".
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So I take this chant, to be quite empowering, imagine saying to yourself for periods of the day "I AM". "OM". I shall endeavour to practise.

Which leads me to another chain of thought also brought up within this post, the good old "Darwinism" Vs "Intelligent Design" debate. I watched an SBS programme on a court case (past) for school curriculum change in USA to include Intelligent Design as science.

You know I saw a lot of pros for both arguments, and at this very moment I'm of the opinion, that they are both right!! (Fence Sitting Allowed (lol)) Cause really looking at the Darwinism "theory" where species adapt and change over time, they are referring to the ability of the DNA strand to adapt over time. Is that or is that not an example of DNA intelligence being able to cause change!!! Case closed???

What are your thoughts??

In illumination of light

Ara

[wavepsychic]

Hello Ara, Tis nice to meet you. Before I get into your questions which are very exciting I want to say something to my good friend Laura.

Laura I am much more evolved then you gave me credit for. I have no such problems.

I'm glad that's the case Louis
love - Laura

I love you too... OK now where was I?

This accentuates to me the oneness of us with source, its like, instead of being grateful to some "image in you perception" its more gratitude towards your subatomic particles, the stone on the ground, the cat/dog on the road, the energy field, as I am you, and you am I.

To be thankful to the Source of all things is to be thankful to the spirit within. The Universal Mind. Adrian in no way said to be thankful to or worship a cat. Everything you perceive is a projection of the source but not the source itself. When humans create a God in there own image with eyes, feet, hands and so on they are merely thanking/worshiping an image in their imagination. Thanking requires no thoughts. Just a deep feeling of gratitude to the source within us.

Which leads me to another chain of thought also brought up within this post, the good old "Darwinism" Vs "Intelligent Design" debate. I watched an SBS programme on a court case (past) for school curriculum change in USA to include Intelligent Design as science.

You know I saw a lot of pros for both arguments, and at this very moment I'm of the opinion, that they are both right!! (Fence Sitting Allowed (lol)) Cause really looking at the Darwinism "theory" where species adapt and change over time, they are referring to the ability of the DNA strand to adapt over time. Is that or is that not an example of DNA intelligence being able to cause change!!! Case closed???

You are correct, they are both right. Like thoughts attract like thoughts. If two people were building a puzzle and one is a (Darwinist) he would only see the green pieces. After building the puzzle he would conclude that is a meadow with lots of vegetation. The other building the puzzle a (Creationist) would only see the blue pieces and conclude its a sky. However some Gnostic with an opened mind would see the pieces that are blue and green. After building the whole puzzle would know its a scenery.

The point is that DNA and cells have there own intellect. They know just enough to do their job. Your bodily functions are all carried out by the Subconscious mind which is projected from the Source. There are enzymes that go around fixing mutated DNA. So if a nucleotide base A is mutated to a T the enzyme comes along and changes it back to the A. How it knows how to do that is a completely mystery to science. So you see the Source builds our body through the subconscious mind. Evolution actually happens within and according to the law of correspondence manifest and plays out in the Physical Realm.

Within Light ~Louis

[Mina-Laura]

Wow Louis

You have exceeded yourself. I guess you already are seeing beyond the scenery (..lol..I feel like Julia now ... hand in hand ...)

love - Laura

[juliainkc]

Namaste Ara and All ~

Namaste All

You know I've been pondering this question within myself for the last day or two, and that is that Gratitude being an important aspect of progression, but the Gratitude in terms of prayer, in my past experience, is usually in reference to paying homage to "a higher source". as in someone/something else. Adrians comment on page 1 of this post

What the Bible means when it quotes "And God said, Let us make man in our image" is the Spiritual Image - in other words "Energy" not a physical image which only exists as an illusion in the physical World.

God, The Source is an Energy Field - All that Is. We exist as Thought Forms or individuated Energy Fields in the form of points of Consciousness in the Mind of God. But we, as individuated Energy Fields are made in the perfect image of the Supreme Energy Field.

This accentuates to me the oneness of us with source, its like, instead of being grateful to some "image in you perception" its more gratitude towards your subatomic particles, the stone on the ground, the cat/dog on the road, the energy field, as I am you, and you am I.

Its a hard one to digest, cause it respects and cause us to remember our "own" divinity, meaning our equality with source, as we are expressions of source. However, it makes a lot of sense, when thinking of the Hindu meditation chant, 'OM' which I read somewhere to be interpreted as "I AM".
"
So I take this chant, to be quite empowering, imagine saying to yourself for periods of the day "I AM". "OM". I shall endeavour to practise.

Which leads me to another chain of thought also brought up within this post, the good old "Darwinism" Vs "Intelligent Design" debate. I watched an SBS programme on a court case (past) for school curriculum change in USA to include Intelligent Design as science.

You know I saw a lot of pros for both arguments, and at this very moment I'm of the opinion, that they are both right!! (Fence Sitting Allowed (lol)) Cause really looking at the Darwinism "theory" where species adapt and change over time, they are referring to the ability of the DNA strand to adapt over time. Is that or is that not an example of DNA intelligence being able to cause change!!! Case closed???

What are your thoughts??

In illumination of light

Ara

Yes Ara,

The Center, The Middle Path, the Narrow Gate, in whatever defines the same idea for us all. Get past the language...

Get into the Center of Unity of Your One BEINGNESS. That's where I found my Source.. and recognize you

Namaste My Brother ~

In Peace at the Center ~

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Wow Louis

You have exceeded yourself. I guess you already are seeing beyond the scenery (..lol..I feel like Julia now ... hand in hand ...)

love - Laura

I hast exceeded thyself?

[juliainkc]

Hi All ~

Actually I brought this subject up of 'I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by me', in considering this as a statement that applies to all. Not religious and trying to convert anyone to anything.

What is interesting to me about this particular statement is 'no man comes to the Father'. Hmmm...

In relation to the idea that I and the Father are One. So, in essence this is relating to Spirit Being not fleshly bodies.

Innocence sees no offense. Along with the saying that I must be like a child to enter the kingdom of heaven. What is a block or idea of not allowing free entry? Would you say no to speaking with your child?... Gotta question for ya... Filll in the question. Who, What, Where, When and How?? etal (eternally asked...)

Come to the Father through me? Christ consciousness, Higher or Holy Spirit. Child of God having access and not fleshly bodies (no man or mankind). We are Spirit Beings expressing in human vehicles (temporary vessels of the created illusion). Why would the Supreme Source of Origin desire to cover ITs Glory?  Spirit is Formless, without form. So who decided to cover this Formlessness with a form? Hmmm...

More is rising from this view...

Just sharing some thoughts,

I appreciate the sharing of all here ~

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Hello Julia

Come to the Father through me? Christ consciousness, Higher or Holy Spirit. Child of God having access and not fleshly bodies (no man or mankind). We are Spirit Beings expressing in human vehicles (temporary vessels of the created illusion). Why would the Supreme Source of Origin desire to cover ITs Glory?  Spirit is Formless, without form. So who decided to cover this Formlessness with a form? Hmmm...

Tis true, We are not our bodies but instead perfect formlessness. The body is created by the collective subconscious mind of all humans. Our own subconscious mind controls our current body. The source of all things creates our bodies through the subconscious mind according to our desires to be incarnate but did not decide to cover us. So it was US who decided to cover our formlessness and the source granted our request. This is apparent in how we humans act by covering our bodies with clothing. It reflects are feeling and need to be covered up. We are insecure of our Spiritual selfs and their for must cover up. When people know things about us that we don't want them to know, don't you just hate that? I know I do and I don't like people seeing me naked either.

[juliainkc]

Hi Wave and All ~

Busy in here before the noise level rises in early morning fashion.

Tis true, We are not our bodies but instead perfect formlessness. The body is created by the collective subconscious mind of all humans. Our own subconscious mind controls our current body. The source of all things creates our bodies through the subconscious mind according to our desires to be incarnate but did not decide to cover us. So it was US who decided to cover our formlessness and the source granted our request. This is apparent in how we humans act by covering our bodies with clothing. It reflects are feeling and need to be covered up. We are insecure of our Spiritual selfs and their for must cover up. When people know things about us that we don't want them to know, don't you just hate that? I know I do and I don't like people seeing me naked either.

I see it as Source is the Cause of All True Reality. Child is the effects of ITs Primary Source or Parent. Somehow Child got the idea that IT wanted to be like Parent. Hmmm... I want to be the Primary Cause. Well, this leads into all kinds of interesting ideas... hmmm...

Hide and Go Seek comes to mind and just think how many characters I can come up with!! Like going through a House of Mirrors and saying 'catch me if you can or betcha can't figure out where I AM hiding?'

Hmmm...we could have alot of fun with this one.

Love to you and All in Divine Spirit,

Julia

[wavepsychic]

Yeah I guess that could be true Julia. We want to be like god our parent AND be our own individuals at the same time.

[juliainkc]

Hi Wave ~



Deeper Still on that note... or Higher...

I and the Father are One...

mmm...

[wavepsychic]

Hi Wave ~



Deeper Still on that note... or Higher...

I and the Father are One...

mmm...

I already knew that ultimately but I was just coming down to reach you halfway. Then when I get down here your up there where I was! What the heck Julia?

[juliainkc]

I already knew that ultimately but I was just coming down to reach you halfway. Then when I get down here your up there where I was! What the heck Julia?

It's called InJoying the full experience in Harmony no matter where you are in the wheel.

I InJoy you Wave, no matter what the heck!!

Love in Divine Spirit,

Julia