Global warming

[will1123]

I would like to know some opinions in here about the global warming situation.  The thing that upsets me about the whole discussion is how many people in my area wont even dignify it with discussion.  They say that it is just climate change, we humans don't have anything to do with it and then they drive off in their SUVs.  True, maybe the media is sensationalizing it a bit; i'll give the dissenters that.  But all the carbon emissions we dump into the air can't possibly be a good thing, can it?  Or does it really matter on the grand scheme of things?  Like George Carlin said, "the earth will be fine, WE'LL all be gone but the earth will be fine."

I dunno.  Maybe it isn't as bad as people say.  But damn, not even an acknowledgment that we could be partially responsible?

[Kailaurius]

Hi will1123,

For myself it would appear that during the last couple of decades and certainly more recently there would appear to be a geological increase in time and activity.  When the earth vibrates faster and our time frame changes geological changes also take place.  We have changed our time frame, and we're seeing geology increase.  The time frame has increased to a degree that we're seeing things in our lifetime that we wouldn't have seen otherwise.  During our lifetime we could possibly see parts of the planet where nothing will grow in fertile areas and where former deserts will bloom.  There's also the matter of the quickening magnetic grid movement which most likely contributes to the severe weather changes.  The actual earth is changing.  I don't believe it's some esoteric change that only a few "enlightened ones" can see.  The earth responds to human consciousness, and now we all get to see it.

I believe global warming is a product of the oceans of the planet and not the atmosphere.  I look forward to scientists finding this out.  This warming most likely would have occurred anyway even without the fossil-fuel problem we currently have.  However, we need to continue cleaning up the fossil-fuel problem anyway, but I don't believe it is causing the global warming.  The earth is dynamic and all of the pollution will settle.  Certainly there's not a divine plan to take the earth and make it uninhabitable.  It just would not seem right that the earth would not support what we're doing.  The earth is a partner in all this.  It's ironic that the very things we're concerned about have happened because of what we've done to change the consciousness of the planet.

Again we are seeing geology speed up, and all of it is in response to Human consciousness, but we see it as products of physical weather patterns, global warming, etc.  It surely seems that way, but I have a feeling it isn't what we think.  There's geothermal pressure building up in some very common areas where it's known to build up.  There are people who watch these things, and they are noticing that the cyclical release of this energy has either stopped or has been interrupted.  Understandably they have many concerns, and some of their concerns of which have been suppressed.  This is all part of a changing planet, a fast-changing planet.  The oceans are warming and that is caused by the earth's vibration increasing.  I believe it's very earth related, and not atmosphere related.

Our consciousness started all this, and our consciousness can also stabilize it.  When it does, the scientists will most likely be baffled again and wonder why it stopped. lol


We can continue changing this planet so that these natural Earth movements are not Human disasters.  The Earth can definitely benefit by especially those who are dedicated to helping the planet and humanity by increasing their light love and sending it to the earth.  Make the planet our partner in these things.  We are all co-creators with free will and we certainly have the power to make globally positive changes.

There are masters who walk the earth who can manifest matter with their hands.  It would seem that they have control over matter, but they don't.  Instead, they've partnered with creation.  That's what we can do, too.  When we can do that we can also talk to the partner we call Earth and make the shifts appropriate to humanity.  We can also do the same thing for storms.  Matter responds to Human consciousness, and the quicker we try experiments involving more than 12,000 people the faster we’ll understand a brand-new power that we have.  The reason this is dangerous before its time, however, is that mass fear consciousness often brings about disorder and unbalance, and the matter within the earth will cooperate with that too.

Our current global warming could bring about a mini-ice age, but I believe it won't be something that would be overwhelming for Humans, and will most likely happen slowly enough for us to adapt, so I believe that if we do have a mini-ice age it will not occur in the next few years, but over a long period of time.  I don't believe it's within our magnificent plan for our planet to create a situation where entire populations are uprooted and displaced.  Spirit is in a partnership with us, and they need us with free will to focus on peace on earth, not just survival on earth.

I think the reason a lot of people don't like to discuss this could be due to them not understanding what’s happening.

Anyway, that's my current opinion and belief on the global warming situation.

[will1123]

See? That wasn't so hard, was it?  That's the kind of thing i'm talking about.  I'm not so arrogant as to think my opinion is unmovable.  Especially when the vote is still out.  I am just tired of hearing people that are so quick to dismiss things they don't fully understand. 

I knew I'd get a great perspective on this from this forum. Gives me a lot to think about. I love this place!

[melody]

The origins of the global warming might be several. One of them - people have been playing around with the weather in many ways lately.

This video deals with some aspects of humans influencing weather

Owning the Weather
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8262483364410309502

The video below is quite long and deals with how the weather can - and it claims already is - influenced with Scalar Waves. It talks about Tesla discoveries and quite advanced understanding of physics and consequences of using Scalar waves and changing weather patterns on Earth.

Secret Weapons: Scalar Wave Weaponry
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3348876914380471423

I am not sure that all the examples how the Scalar Wave has already been used are the reality, but it is interesting to consider it.

[Sara]

Many of us would like a practical way to help the Earth; we feel that sometimes action is needed. I have found the NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) to be one of the best ways to help. They have been fighting much of what the current administration has been trying to do: fighting the battles in the courts and in the law, to help preserve the environment as much as possible. Their mission is to "Safeguard the Earth, it's people, its plants and animals, and the natural systems on which all life depends."  Please see their site for what they are doing about global warming, helping the whales, etc.

http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/

[Sara]

I thought you might find the following page of interest. It contains channeled messages from the Earth soul (Gaia) as well as from Oceana, the deva kingdom, etc. It also has a wonderful meditation for assisting the Earth.

http://www.iamuniversity.ch/-Mother-Earth-Lodge

[melody]

Many of us would like a practical way to help the Earth; we feel that sometimes action is needed. I have found the NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) to be one of the best ways to help. They have been fighting much of what the current administration has been trying to do: fighting the battles in the courts and in the law, to help preserve the environment as much as possible. Their mission is to "Safeguard the Earth, it's people, its plants and animals, and the natural systems on which all life depends."  Please see their site for what they are doing about global warming, helping the whales, etc.

http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/

Hello Sara,

It is good to know that there are organizations that care about Earth and animals. Great of you to post this website! 

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

"Global warming" has nothing whatsoever to do with "carbon emissions", "fossil fuels" or anything generated by human activity - it is another one of those myths spread by the government for their own purposes. No serious scientist or meteoroligist believes it also - in fact many believe it is an insult to their profession and intelligence.

The warming is being caused by one fundamantal factor - the Sun, i.e. solar activity. We know this because of the high levels of activity of the Sun during what is supposed to be a solar minima, and in particular because every planet in the solar system is affected to greater or lesser extents.

The solar maxima will take place in 2012, and, in my view, is the #1 possibility for any cataclysmic events on Earth - not that I particularly beleive that will happen.

You can read my article on 2012 here:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/2012-transition-of-the-ages.html

And I must add that I absolutely do not condone pollution or destruction of nature in any way, shape or form.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Adrian]

Hello,

To illustrate what I said in my last message, here is the view of one such respected weather scientist.

"It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in [sic] allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious."

John Coleman, Founder of Weather Channel

I should point out that this person, in his outrge, completely overlooks the real danger. There is definitely no man-made global warming, but the climate is warming and changeing exponentially fast, that much should be obvious, and due to the activity of the Sun in all likelyhood.

And again - the catastrophic rape and destruction as well as general interference with Earth must stop, otherwise a cataclysm will not remain a possibility, it must become a fact due the de-stablization of the eco system, and of nature and wildlife, Earth resources and the Earth Spirit, Gaia, who is as much a living Being as any of us, with an originally pristine body,Herself.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[melody]

Hello Adrian,

Thank you very much for taking your time and elaborating about the changing conditions on our planet. I read that Mars has been also showing warming activity, with some ice “rivers” melting away. That would point to the increase in Sun’s activity, exactly as you've stated above.

[Adrian]

Hello Melody,

Hello Adrian,

Thank you very much for taking your time and elaborating about the changing conditions on our planet. I read that Mars has been also showing warming activity, with some ice “rivers” melting away. That would point to the increase in Sun’s activity, exactly as you've stated above.

Most of the planets and their moons are showing profound changes - much more so than Earth in many resects. I think this is because the further from the Sun, the more noticable the changes are. The same applies on Earth - the further from the equator, the more profound the climate change is noticable, especially at the polar regions which are melting fast, as well as 75% of the worlds glaciers have now almost gone.

There may be other factors such as massive increases in sea bacteria that create carbon dioxide, but even then I believe this is due to solar activity makign the bacteria more active due to increased warmth and Energy - The Sun is the primary cause in my view.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

[Raphael]

George Carlin said, "the earth will be fine, WE'LL all be gone but the earth will be fine."

I swear I was thinking the EXACT same thing as soon as I read the topic title!!
Wasn't it actually "The planet isn't going anywhere.... WE ARE!"
  I love George Carlin

Hello Melody,

"Global warming" has nothing whatsoever to do with "carbon emissions", "fossil fuels" or anything generated by human activity - it is another one of those myths spread by the government for their own purposes. No serious scientist or meteoroligist believes it also - in fact many believe it is an insult to their profession and intelligence.

The warming is being caused by one fundamantal factor - the Sun, i.e. solar activity. We know this because of the high levels of activity of the Sun during what is supposed to be a solar minima, and in particular because every planet in the solar system is affected to greater or lesser extents.

The solar maxima will take place in 2012, and, in my view, is the #1 possibility for any cataclysmic events on Earth - not that I particularly beleive that will happen.

You can read my article on 2012 here:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/2012-transition-of-the-ages.html

And I must add that I absolutely do not condone pollution or destruction of nature in any way, shape or form.

Kind regards,

Adrian.

I have never thought about this.. Thank you for making it clear!!
I used to be really worried about global warming and pulution because I love nature.
But at least we can blame ourselves for polution right?? And deforesting!

[Adrian]

Hello Raphael,

I have never thought about this.. Thank you for making it clear!!
I used to be really worried about global warming and pulution because I love nature.
But at least we can blame ourselves for polution right?? And deforesting!

Let me say that in no way do I condone any activity that pollutes the environment or indeed damages the environment in any way for that matter. Myself and my three son's are strict conservationists and nature lovers.

But to blame "global warming" or "climate change" on human emissions and pollution is to naively and dangerously miss the point.

Earth has experienced these cycles from the beginning, and will continue to do so until the end.  There is evidence of this everywhere, for example within ice cores that have been extracted from the polar regions, in lake sedimentary deposits, in sea sedimentary deposits etc, just as there is plenty of evidence of cataclysmic events every few thousands years that, to me at least, seem to be the result of a geophysical pole shift. For example the discovered remains large, advanced civilisations that are now sitting 2000 feet under the sea.

This whole "climate change" fiasco looks suspiciously like the next big cabal, where corporate businesses will start to produce "eco friendly" products, terrorising people into buying them on the basis of preventing "climate" change and future disaster.  Such products, although good to be "eco friendly" assuming they really are "eco friendly" are like King Canute holding back the tides.

As these environmental changes continue to exponentially escalate, this will be seen for what it truly is.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

[Raphael]

Hello Raphael,

I have never thought about this.. Thank you for making it clear!!
I used to be really worried about global warming and pulution because I love nature.
But at least we can blame ourselves for polution right?? And deforesting!

Let me say that in no way do I condone any activity that pollutes the environment or indeed damages the environment in any way for that matter. Myself and my three son's are strict conservationists and nature lovers.

But to blame "global warming" or "climate change" on human emissions and pollution is to naively and dangerously miss the point.

Earth has experienced these cycles from the beginning, and will continue to do so until the end.  There is evidence of this everywhere, for example within ice cores that have been extracted from the polar regions, in lake sedimentary deposits, in sea sedimentary deposits etc, just as there is plenty of evidence of cataclysmic events every few thousands years that, to me at least, seem to be the result of a geophysical pole shift. For example the discovered remains large, advanced civilisations that are now sitting 2000 feet under the sea.

This whole "climate change" fiasco looks suspiciously like the next big cabal, where corporate businesses will start to produce "eco friendly" products, terrorising people into buying them on the basis of preventing "climate" change and future disaster.  Such products, although good to be "eco friendly" assuming they really are "eco friendly" are like King Canute holding back the tides.

As these environmental changes continue to exponentially escalate, this will be seen for what it truly is.

Kind regards,

Adrian.
 

I've read about a faint star orbiting the sun, and passing close by to the earth every 25,000~30,000 years, and with it's gravity is drags meteors towards the earth, thus causing these major cyclic extinction periods on earth. But that's not proven 

Yeah, just because we're here doesn't mean natural "disasters" will stop!

[Adrian]

Hello Raphael,

I've read about a faint star orbiting the sun, and passing close by to the earth every 25,000~30,000 years, and with it's gravity is drags meteors towards the earth, thus causing these major cyclic extinction periods on earth. But that's not proven 

Yeah, just because we're here doesn't mean natural "disasters" will stop!

There is a fabled planet called "Nibiru" or "Planet X"  which is supposed to pass close to Earth periodically with dramatic effects. I personally do not subscribe to this theory at this time, but of course would modify my view if any supporting evidence arose.

Here are a couple of articles I wrote on the various scenarios - I suggest you read them in this order:

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/2012-in-perspective.html

http://www.ourultimatereality.com/2012-transition-of-the-ages.html

Kind regards,

Adrian.