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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2008, 16:05:28 »


Hello Adrian,

The quotations you present above referring to the  great flood are fascinating. I am surprised about all the references you collected!

In regard to your statement


Adam and Eve never existed as people, they were a metaphor for the next evolution of human being that became who we are today.


If the story about Adam and Eve is only a metaphor than it does not appear to be the right one for the human beings evolution. The story is about two distinct stages of their existence: before they ate of the fruit of the tree of the Good and Evil, and the one after that. Before, they had eternal life, and were close to God. After, they became mortal, separated from God, and capable of evil. So the story seems to be that of clear degradation rather than evolution for the human beings. If this is only a metaphor, it does not appear to fit as an evolution model.

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There have been 5 great evolutionary "cleansings" of humanity leading to the next evolution. Previous cleansings have corresponded to the 5 Universal Elements of Fire, Air, Earth and Water - the last chrnicles by Genesis being water. The previous three took place before recorded history.

The current evolution is Ether - the quintessence of the previous 4 taking place at the end of the great 25,800 cycle. Ether represents Spirit representing the next evolution of humanity that I call Homo Spiritus, the Hopi call Homo Luminous etc.

Could you please let us know how you come to know about the previous cleansing of the humanity since these have not been recorded as you state yourself. How was it established to which elements they corresponded? What type of cleansing can be produced by air or earth?

Would metal be an element? It does not seem to be either earth or any other elements you innumerate.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2008, 16:20:24 »

Hello Melody,


Hello Adrian,

The quotations you present above referring to the  great flood are fascinating. I am surprised about all the references you collected!

I research many relevant areas, and the event known as "The Great Flood" is very relevant, being the only recorded evolutionary event.


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If the story about Adam and Eve is only a metaphor than it does not appear to be the right one for the human beings evolution. The story is about two distinct stages of their existence: before they ate of the fruit of the tree of the Good and Evil, and the one after that. Before, they had eternal life, and were close to God. After, they became mortal, separated from God, and capable of evil. So the story seems to be that of clear degradation rather than evolution for the human beings. If this is only a metaphor, it does not appear to fit as an evolution model.

You are looking at this account from a theological perspective.

Genesis, like much of the old and new testaments have much deeper inner meanings.

However - humanity has indeed degraded almost exactly in accordance with Genesis.

The evolutionary event was to the next "level" of human being, which was evolutionary, after that this level of human being experienced involution.

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Could you please let us know how you come to know about the previous cleansing of the humanity since these have not been recorded as you state yourself. How was it established to which elements they corresponded? What type of cleansing can be produced by air or earth?

We know of previous events through the geological and paleoanthpological record to a certain extent - but also through occult knowledge.

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Would metal be an element? It does not seem to be either earth or any other elements you innumerate.

No - metal is a substance. The Universal Elements are the building blocks of the Universe in all spheres, but are still Energy. They are not directly related to the physical elements, but are reflection of them as with the Universe as a Whole.

We are made in the "image of God", but that does not mean God has human form - it means Spiritually and Energy.

Kind regards,

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2008, 16:33:27 »


Hello Adrian,

Hello Melody,


If the story about Adam and Eve is only a metaphor than it does not appear to be the right one for the human beings evolution. The story is about two distinct stages of their existence: before they ate of the fruit of the tree of the Good and Evil, and the one after that. Before, they had eternal life, and were close to God. After, they became mortal, separated from God, and capable of evil. So the story seems to be that of clear degradation rather than evolution for the human beings. If this is only a metaphor, it does not appear to fit as an evolution model.

You are looking at this account from a theological perspective.

Genesis, like much of the old and new testaments have much deeper inner meanings.

However - humanity has indeed degraded almost exactly in accordance with Genesis.

The evolutionary event was to the next "level" of human being, which was evolutionary, after that this level of human being experienced involution.

Since you agree that the story of Adam and Eve shows their "level" state with subsequent involution, than the point of view I expressed was simply biblical rather than theological.  smiley

Could you please explain what you mean by the evolutionary event having been the next "level" of human being. So the evolution was happening backwards, rather than forwards, as according to Darwin? First there was evolution, then involution, only to be followed by evolution again?

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No - metal is a substance. The Universal Elements are the building blocks of the Universe in all spheres, but are still Energy. They are not directly related to the physical elements, but are reflection of them as with the Universe as a Whole.


Are not earth and water also substance, being material and physical? Air is actually also material and physical, though in a much rarefied state. When condensed, it becomes more solid as water. So air is definitely also physical.

I am still interested to know what type of cleansing could be produced by air and earth.

According to the Bible, the next cleansing will be by Fire - the Apocalypse. The cleansing by Ether however sounds more "refined".  smiley

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2008, 19:14:19 »

YES thank you, very interesting! I've been watching em all day.

HEY Lord Adrian, I mean Master Adrian, I mean regular Adrian what do you think about this video on Prime Matter? Is it true?

http://www.continuitystudios.net/prime.html
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2008, 03:27:22 »


Hello everybody,

This video is a fuller copy of one of the videos on Neal Adam’s website.

Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI

The video below, though it has the  title as above, speaks of the German scientist who was the first to propose the theory that Earth is growing.

Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOp8j6eOBlI&feature=related

The  amateur video below proves with simple means how all the pieces of the continents fit together to form a uniform crust. So one could see that there was no tempering with continents shapes. as far as Neal’s animation videos were concerned.

RE: Neal Adams Science project
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJzic3kk4_g&feature=related


What is interesting in this theory, the continents fir together so well that one realized that there could not have been the lost continents of Lemuria (Mu) or Atlantis. The map of the ocean’s floor in the first video also seems to support this. Maybe those continents were parts of the present crust and got below the water during the great flood, and this is how they “sank”, but the same crust simply resurfaced after the flood and also gradually moved further away relative to other continents?

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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2008, 05:23:18 »

Hello Melody,


Could you please explain what you mean by the evolutionary event having been the next "level" of human being. So the evolution was happening backwards, rather than forwards, as according to Darwin? First there was evolution, then involution, only to be followed by evolution again?

One is physical and the other Spiritual. The next level will be both.

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Are not earth and water also substance, being material and physical? Air is actually also material and physical, though in a much rarefied state. When condensed, it becomes more solid as water. So air is definitely also physical.

Yes they are, but when we talk about the Elements in Metaphysical, esoteric or occult terms we are referring to the Universal Elements.

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I am still interested to know what type of cleansing could be produced by air and earth.

Powerful winds and earthquakes.

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According to the Bible, the next cleansing will be by Fire - the Apocalypse. The cleansing by Ether however sounds more "refined".  smiley

That is a prophecy, which has probably been misinterpreted anyway. Prophecies are impossible because the future does not exist.

The Maya measured cycles which are very real and measurable, and the also had occult knowledge.

Kind regards,

Adrian.



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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2008, 09:31:52 »




Are not earth and water also substance, being material and physical? Air is actually also material and physical, though in a much rarefied state. When condensed, it becomes more solid as water. So air is definitely also physical.

Yes they are, but when we talk about the Elements in Metaphysical, esoteric or occult terms we are referring to the Universal Elements.



Hello Adrian,

Could you please explain what is the difference between the real elements and the Universal Elements which, as you said before, were the building blocks.
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2008, 09:37:32 »



Fire makes sense or should I say ice. Scientist believe that 90% of ancient people were killed off by a Super Volcano. The Ash killed the most.


I believe the cleansing by fire would apply to all the humanity, not only some living in the super volcano radius, even if it is a large one. Being extremated by the ensuing cold, since the planet had fallen into a several years long winter because of the ash blocking the sun, would not really represent for the majority of people "cleansing by fire".
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2008, 11:59:52 »

Hello Melody,


I believe the cleansing by fire would apply to all the humanity, not only some living in the super volcano radius, even if it is a large one. Being extremated by the ensuing cold, since the planet had fallen into a several years long winter because of the ash blocking the sun, would not really represent for the majority of people "cleansing by fire".


I believe that a "cleansing by fire" would be the result of a solar event, notably a CME - Coronal Mass Ejection.   If a CME hit the Earth head on, most life on Earth would be wiped out due to super heating of the atmosphere and related events.

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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2008, 12:07:52 »

Hello Melody,


Could you please explain what is the difference between the real elements and the Universal Elements which, as you said before, were the building blocks.


The best way I can do this is by means of a chapter from my book:

Chapter 21 The Universal Elements

We have already discussed how the entire Universe consists of vibration from the very highest vibration of The Source, The First Cause, God, to the very lowest vibrations comprising the physical world of matter. We have also discussed how all vibration is Energy and how vibration can manifest an unlimited number of unique characteristics. Another of the many names for The Source, The First Cause or God is the “Ether”. This is not necessarily the “ether” referred to in science, but rather the Universal Ether, also known as “Spirit”.

The very beginning of the creation of the Universe within the Mind of The One is symbolically identified with those well-known words “Let there be Light”, Fiat Lux. At that point, the entire Universe was created as a glorious Though Form within the Infinite Mind of God. God then became The First Cause for the Universe and The Source of All that Is as the entire magnificent Universe in all of its spheres then came into being.

It should also be noted this does not only apply to the physical Universe according to science’s own “big bang theory. It applies to all of the Great Planes of life from the very highest vibration of The Source, The First Cause, God, descending all the way out to the physical world of matter.

This process symbolically began with “The Word”. As we have said, “The Word” is not the same as a word in physical language. “The Word” is the sending forth from The Logos, of vibrations of Energy within the Mind of God in the form of images, the great Thought Form, giving rise to the constituents of the Ether and, ultimately, the creation of the entire Universe.

The Ether is symbolically comprised of the four Universal “elements” from which everything in existence came into being upon The Word. These are the Universal elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth, of which the Ether, The Source, God is the very finest―the Quintessence of the others, the primordial Light. It should be made clear from the outset that the elements are not in any way separate from Energy or vibration, but are rather configurations of Energy and vibration constituted in a specific way. Each element has its own unique characteristics in accordance with its Energy configuration.

Each element, as a configuration of Energy, influences corresponding Energy just as all Energy has the capability to influence any other Energy. In this way, the elements, under the influence of the Infinite Universal Mind of God, are Energy “building blocks” configured during the initial act of creation.

It must be stressed once again that these are not the commonly recognized fire, air, water and earth of the material world. These elements are rather the Universal attributes of configurations of Energy that are analogous to the physical elements, having similar but non-physical characteristics.

Everything that has ever been and ever will be created was as a direct result of the interaction between the Energy configurations or vibrations of these four Universal elements. The characteristics of each the four Universal Energy elements are as follows:


The Element of Fire:

This was the first element to descend from The First Cause, the fundamental attributes of which are light, heat and expansion. All of creation began with these Universal attributes radiating and expanding outwards from The Source until finally reaching the very outermost levels of vibration, at which point the physical Universe of matter was formed. The Emerald Tablet of Hermes is an ancient account of this event.
It follows, therefore, that everything without exception in the entire Universe in all planes of life contains the Universal element of Fire. In accordance with the Universal Principle of polarity, the Fire element, as with all of the elements, is bipolar. In other words, it has two poles that are respectively active and passive in nature. The active or positive pole is creative, and the passive or negative pole is destructive.

The Universal attributes of the Fire element as relates to the Macrocosm have a profound influence over human Beings, the Microcosm. As already mentioned, everything in the Universe contains all four elements, and human Beings are no exception.

The action and balance of the elements in the subtle bodies, and most notably the Astral body, the Soul, has a very considerable influence over the emotions, temperament and all other mental attributes of human Beings. In addition, imbalances in the elements will often result in a physically manifested illness, usually diagnosed by doctors as originating from a physical medical origin. Of course, it is not possible to fully heal such ailments by physical, somatic means but only to mask the manifesting symptoms. In accordance with Universal laws, and in particular the law of Correspondence, all diseases first originate within before manifesting in the physical body as a physically observable disease.

The elements also correspond to the five physical senses through which the physical body experiences the physical world. The Astral body, or Soul, experiences the physical world through the mediation of the five physical senses and is a primary reason why the Astral body is so fundamental to the balance and well-being of the physical body. The Energy body is the Energy interface between the physical body and the Astral body.

In the Mental Body, the Fire element gives rise to the emotional attributes of Energy, might and passion. It is ultimately the Mental Body or the Immortal Spirit that actuates the five physical senses through the mediation of the inner senses of both the outer Astral and physical bodies.

The Fire element, in recognition of its fundamental property of expansion, is also known as the “electric fluid”.


The Element of Air:

The next element to descend from The First Cause was the element of Air. Air is not a true element in the same way as Fire and Water, but it is still fundamentally important to the balance of the Universe.

The function of the Air element is to act as a Universal Energy mediator between the Fire and Water elements. In the course of this mediation, the Air element acquires the attributes of warmth from Fire and moisture from Water. These are Universal Energy attributes―configurations of Energy present in all planes of life.


The Element of Water:

Water was the third Element to descend from The First Cause. The element of Water has exactly the opposite properties to those of Fire, its Universal Energy characteristics being principally those of contraction and coldness.

As with all of the elements, Water also has its two polar opposites, the actions of which are vital to the great Universal scheme of things. The active or positive pole of the Water Element is nourishing, preserving, and life-giving, while the negative pole is decomposing, fermenting and dispersing. The Fire and Water elements are interdependent upon each other, being both equals and opposites from a Universal polar perspective.
The Water element represents the Astral body, just as the Fire element is also analogous to the immortal Spirit. The Electric fluid, the element of Water is also analogous to the “Magnetic fluid” in recognition of its fundamental property of contraction.


The Element of Earth:

The fourth element to descend from The First  Cause, like Air, Earth is not a true element but is the result of the interaction of the other three elements―Fire, Air and Water. The main characteristic of Earth is the property of solidification. As this occurs, the Earth element assimilates the other three elements from which it is constituted, thus providing them with a solid form. It is due to the activities of the elements during this process that the material Universe of physical matter came into being during the great act of creation, along with the physical world attributes of measure, space, weight and time as they are known to us.

All life came into being as a direct result of the interaction of Energy analogous to the properties of Fire, Water and Air expanding from The Source, The First Cause, God, eventually resulting in the physical, solid Universe analogous to the element of Earth.

Again, the Earth element has, like the other elements, unique characteristics of vibration or Energy and is not, therefore, merely the physical Earth of solid matter as constituted by the elements at the lowest level of Energy vibration and highest density. It is also important to note that we are not merely referring to the planet “Earth”, but rather to the entire physical Universe as known to science, the creation of which is analogous to the “big bang” theory of the astrophysicists.

Science is constantly seeking the origin of the “big bang” in the physical Universe. However, as we will discuss later in this book, science will never find such a single origin within the physical Universe for the “big bang” or the start of creation, because in the beginning, the Universe was created out of and by The Source, The First Cause, God beyond the confines of space and time―a place where all exists in the Eternal Now.

The descent of the elements commenced beyond space and time, expanding outwards through the Ether with progressively lower vibration and increasing density, until finally resulting in solidification by way of differentiation into matter in the form of the physical Universe, the existence of which science attributes to the event know as the “big bang”.

The solidification process analogous to the Earth element is still subject to the laws of vibration, which is why all matter is ultimately constituted of subatomic particles, atoms and molecules of unique properties, together giving rise to the chemical elements and compounds as recognized by science.

Again, however, chemical elements should not be confused with the Universal Elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth, and neither should they be confused with the physical fire, air, water and Earth of the same name. The Universal elements, like the entire Universe in all spheres of life and reality are pure Energy with unique characteristics ultimately under the influence of the power of Mind Principle, either the Infinite Mind of God or of human and other Beings.

The “big bang” theory is to scientists as Genesis I is to the biblical scriptures. The story of Genesis, like almost all of the biblical accounts, is very deeply symbolic, intended for those who would understand its true meaning. Over the millennia, these accounts have all been interpreted and translated in material terms, and the true meaning has long been lost to most. Genesis is in fact an account of the greater act of creation in all planes of life and not merely of the physical planet Earth as is generally supposed by religions.

One of the key Principles in the health and well-being of all tetrapolar life (life which is constituted from all four of the elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth) is in maintaining a fine balance of the Energy and vibration of the elements.

Within the Astral worlds, there are various degrees of Beings existing as configurations of Energy comprising a single element. Some of these Beings are fairly advanced in nature, including such creatures as are more commonly associated with “fairytales”, and some of which are much more basic in nature. The more basic Beings of the single elements are known as “elementaries” when they exist in the Astral planes and “elementals” when their principle habitat is within the Mental planes. Despite their comparative simplicity, these Beings are nevertheless very important in the grand Universal scheme of things. We will discuss these and the more advanced Beings of the single elements later in this book.

The Universal elements of Fire, Air, Water and Earth are configurations of Energy that are analogous to their Earthly recognized counterparts, each of which exhibit unique characteristics, forming Energy building blocks within the Universe. These elements not only exert a profound effect over human Beings at all levels, but also within the Universe as a whole.

As previously mentioned, many human diseases are a direct result of an imbalance of the Energy of the elements within the inner Energy, Astral or Mental bodies, which, in turn, manifest in accordance with the Principle of Correspondence as a physically observable ailment. The elements also have a profound effect on human emotions and mental states, giving rise to psychological imbalances and observable mental illnesses. Equilibrium of the elements within the human body is a fundamental aspect of the ongoing process of evolution and perfection that is the destiny of every single human being without exception. It should be noted however that all such imbalances, however they manifest ultimately originate from one source―Mind. In the case of diseases therefore these imbalances have been caused by the thought processes of the person experiencing them.

Full elemental equilibrium and harmony of the elements at all levels can be controlled and maintained by the Mind. Balancing of the elements comprising the human being at all levels is an important aspect of progression, and one which we will accordingly discuss in detail later in this book.













 
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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2008, 15:57:19 »


 Hello Adrian,

Thank you for reminding us about the writing in your book. Some of those esoteric teaching are hard to remember after a couple of years laps in time. They are also hard to remember because those concepts appear to be purely symbolical, a metaphor, out of the realm of the real elements which names they carry.


I believe that a "cleansing by fire" would be the result of a solar event, notably a CME - Coronal Mass Ejection.   If a CME hit the Earth head on, most life on Earth would be wiped out due to super heating of the atmosphere and related events.


So it appears there might after all be some validity to biblical prophecies...  smiley

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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2008, 16:45:28 »

Hello Melody,

So it appears there might after all be some validity to biblical prophecies...  smiley

There is no validity to any prophecy, and that includes psychics that purport to "tell the future" and all "fortune tellers".

The future does not exist, and therefore it is impossible to "tell", i.e. prophecy the future.

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2008, 18:39:59 »

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There is no validity to any prophecy, and that includes psychics that purport to "tell the future" and all "fortune tellers".

The future does not exist, and therefore it is impossible to "tell", i.e. prophecy the future.

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Couldn't they still be reading the Akasha?

Why do so many Psychics and Prophets through out history talk about Dec. 21 2012?
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2008, 19:17:58 »

Hello Wavepsychic,

Couldn't they still be reading the Akasha?

The fact is there is only the Eternal Now, so it is not possible to observe something outside of that moment from the perspective of the observer.

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Why do so many Psychics and Prophets through out history talk about Dec. 21 2012?

Actually no psychic or prophet has ever specifically prophesied 2012 that I am aware of.  Most "doomsday" prophecies are open to interpretation and never give a date or even a year.

The nearest is the recently discovered "Lost Book of Nostradamus" which comes close, but offers a range of outcomes based upon human consciousness which is accurate.  Nostradamus still does not specifically mention the date 21 December 2012, but rather the point at which the 13th sign of the Zodiac, Ophiuchus, which western astrology omits out of convenience, points directly at Galactic Centre.

All of the 2012 predictions such as by the Maya and the I-Ching are based upon the observation and knowledge of immutable and predictable Universal cycles of Energy.

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The fact is there is only the Eternal Now, so it is not possible to observe something outside of that moment from the perspective of the observer.

I am not sure If I understand this. I thought you said that everything was happening now, so does that mean there are things happening now out of our perception, like what has happened 100 solar cycles ago. Is that happening now even though we can not see it?
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Is it that those things don't exist & only a infinite moment of eternally reading energy reconfiguring itself exist?

The former seems to be the view of regression hypnotist, & the later is what it sounds like the Eternal Now suggest.

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Actually no psychic or prophet has ever specifically prophesied 2012 that I am aware of.  Most "doomsday" prophecies are open to interpretation and never give a date or even a year.

The nearest is the recently discovered "Lost Book of Nostradamus" which comes close, but offers a range of outcomes based upon human consciousness which is accurate.  Nostradamus still does not specifically mention the date 21 December 2012, but rather the point at which the 13th sign of the Zodiac, Ophiuchus, which western astrology omits out of convenience, points directly at Galactic Centre.

The Nostradamus Ophiuchus thing is what I was talking about. There were two women psychics or lived in caves that I think both said 2012, and Merlin too. You said Jesus tried to get us ready, wouldn't he be a psychic predicting 2012 as well? The I Ching also predicts events through history & ends on that exact date. If the Maya predicted Universal Cycles psychically by Projecting then why would a non projecting psychic who comes to the 2012 conclusion be wrong when the Maya are right?
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